I have a south facing roof terrace and a combination of south winds and
rain sees water forced in under the inwards opening door. The door is a
custom made wood one in a wood frame. There is already a drip bar on the
bottom of the door and an aluminium strip with matching rebate in the door
- about an inch high - running across the threshold in an attempt to stop
this. But any wind just whips the water over this. What obviously is
needed is some form of positive seal. The door is a very good fit already
so there isn't room for a stick on rubber one.

My thinking is a rebated in magnetic one. Is this the way to go and any
sources and info - or any alternatives? I'm running out of gaffer tape...

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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:33:01 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

What obviously is needed is some form of positive seal. The door is a
very good fit already so there isn't room for a stick on rubber one.

Not even draft excluder for window frames? That squidges down very thin,
1mm with ease. Get one of the ones that is fully enclosed rather than
exposed foam.

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Dave Liquorice wrote:
What obviously is needed is some form of positive seal. The door is a
very good fit already so there isn't room for a stick on rubber one.

Not even draft excluder for window frames? That squidges down very thin,
1mm with ease. Get one of the ones that is fully enclosed rather than
exposed foam.

I tried that and it didn't work. Being wood and not new I doubt everything
lines up perfectly anymore so a simple foam one may not be enough.

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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:23:42 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Not even draft excluder for window frames? That squidges down very
thin, 1mm with ease.

I tried that and it didn't work. Being wood and not new I doubt
everything lines up perfectly anymore so a simple foam one may not be
enough.

That I am surprised at, should be enough for gaps 4mm down to almost naff
all. Is this water really coming underneath or in through the jambs and
running down the edge of the door/jamb?

To close the jambs off you can get strips of ali channel with a soft
flexable blade attached. The ali channel nails to the frame and the blade
presses flat against the door. Works up here... Bit of fiddle trimming
correctly for the corners but worth it.

Would the silcone sealant and (greased?) cling film trick work along the
top of the ali threshold strip to from a "custom moulded" soft seal?

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Dave.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I have a south facing roof terrace and a combination of south winds and
rain sees water forced in under the inwards opening door. The door is a
custom made wood one in a wood frame. There is already a drip bar on the
bottom of the door and an aluminium strip with matching rebate in the door
- about an inch high - running across the threshold in an attempt to stop
this. But any wind just whips the water over this. What obviously is
needed is some form of positive seal. The door is a very good fit already
so there isn't room for a stick on rubber one.

My thinking is a rebated in magnetic one. Is this the way to go and any
sources and info - or any alternatives? I'm running out of gaffer tape...



Unhelpful suggestion #1: inflatable gas-tight seal in door frame.


Richard

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I have a south facing roof terrace and a combination of south winds
and rain sees water forced in under the inwards opening door. The
door is a custom made wood one in a wood frame. There is already a
drip bar on the bottom of the door and an aluminium strip with
matching rebate in the door - about an inch high - running across the
threshold in an attempt to stop this. But any wind just whips the
water over this. What obviously is needed is some form of positive
seal. The door is a very good fit already so there isn't room for a
stick on rubber one.

My thinking is a rebated in magnetic one. Is this the way to go and
any sources and info - or any alternatives? I'm running out of
gaffer tape...

Dave,

Is the "aluminium strip" something like that of a Stromguard waterbar
(threshold)? If it is, try putting a 6mm x 6mm plough grove under the
bottom rail of the door and over 'drip tray' of the aluminium strip - this
stops the water being blown across the bottom rail and allows it to fall and
drain out through the strips (stormguards) weepholes.

If the 'strip' is simply a flat bar, then try the groove trick in front of
that - *if* there's enough room - or simly replace the strip for a
Stormguard waterbar and that, along with the plough groove, usually works in
the worst of weathers.

BRG

In article ,
BRG wrote:
Is the "aluminium strip" something like that of a Stromguard waterbar
(threshold)?

No - just a plain ally strip. Added by the builders.

If it is, try putting a 6mm x 6mm plough grove under the bottom rail of
the door and over 'drip tray' of the aluminium strip - this stops the
water being blown across the bottom rail and allows it to fall and
drain out through the strips (stormguards) weepholes.

I've just Googled Stormguard and it looks like I should try one of their
products.

If the 'strip' is simply a flat bar, then try the groove trick in front
of that - *if* there's enough room - or simly replace the strip for a
Stormguard waterbar and that, along with the plough groove, usually
works in the worst of weathers.

They seem to have a bewildering range. Any preference? The door has been
rebated for this ally strip but would be easy enough to alter.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
BRG wrote:
Is the "aluminium strip" something like that of a Stromguard waterbar
(threshold)?

No - just a plain ally strip. Added by the builders.

If it is, try putting a 6mm x 6mm plough grove under the bottom rail
of the door and over 'drip tray' of the aluminium strip - this stops
the water being blown across the bottom rail and allows it to fall
and drain out through the strips (stormguards) weepholes.

I've just Googled Stormguard and it looks like I should try one of
their products.

If the 'strip' is simply a flat bar, then try the groove trick in
front of that - *if* there's enough room - or simly replace the
strip for a Stormguard waterbar and that, along with the plough
groove, usually works in the worst of weathers.

They seem to have a bewildering range. Any preference? The door has
been rebated for this ally strip but would be easy enough to alter.

Dave,

If height isn't a problem, just use the standard one
http://www.stormguard.co.uk/ProductsSillStandard.html

or if you want the 'belt and braces' job use the Brydale
http://www.stormguard.co.uk/ProductsSillBrydale.html the rubber seals will
stop the draughts as well as the water.

After fitting many of these in my time, I would suggest that if you live in
a high wind pressure area, that you also fit an aluminium weatherboard just
above the Stormguard to stop the rain being 'pushed' down and under the
door - especially if you use the standard sill.

If height is a problem (disabled access etc) then just use one of the lower
profile bars with a weatherboard.

BRG

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
BRG wrote:
Is the "aluminium strip" something like that of a Stromguard waterbar
(threshold)?

No - just a plain ally strip. Added by the builders.

If it is, try putting a 6mm x 6mm plough grove under the bottom rail
of the door and over 'drip tray' of the aluminium strip - this stops
the water being blown across the bottom rail and allows it to fall
and drain out through the strips (stormguards) weepholes.

I've just Googled Stormguard and it looks like I should try one of
their products.

If the 'strip' is simply a flat bar, then try the groove trick in
front of that - *if* there's enough room - or simly replace the
strip for a Stormguard waterbar and that, along with the plough
groove, usually works in the worst of weathers.

They seem to have a bewildering range. Any preference? The door has
been rebated for this ally strip but would be easy enough to alter.

Dave,

If height isn't a problem, just use the standard one
http://www.stormguard.co.uk/ProductsSillStandard.html

or if you want the 'belt and braces' job use the Brydale
http://www.stormguard.co.uk/ProductsSillBrydale.html the rubber seals will
stop the draughts as well as the water.

After fitting many of these in my time, I would suggest that if you live in
a high wind pressure area, that you also fit an aluminium weatherboard just
above the Stormguard to stop the rain being 'pushed' down and under the
door - especially if you use the standard sill.

If height is a problem (disabled access etc) then just use one of the lower
profile bars with a weatherboard.

BRG