HI All

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of
the interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along
the top of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is
standing a one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original)
- I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them
flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Should I be thinking about 'steaming' the panel, or maybe even using
some of that 'wood hardener' to stiffen the panel once it's clamped..?

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

Many thanks
Adrian

Adrian ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of
the interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along
the top of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is
standing a one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original)
- I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them
flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Should I be thinking about 'steaming' the panel, or maybe even using
some of that 'wood hardener' to stiffen the panel once it's clamped..?

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

I've got similar on one of the door trims of a Cit Dyane van. I'm not
convinced it'll be worth the effort to try to rescue them - and that's
without new 'uns being available off the shelf, unlike for a Moggy Thou.

My plan - since the vinyl doesn't have any hotwelded "styling" on it, just
a hole for window winder and a couple for armrest - is just to remake the
damn thing in something less pikey than cardboard...

thinks
Chequerplate?

Adrian wrote:
HI All

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of
the interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along
the top of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is
standing a one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original)
- I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them
flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Should I be thinking about 'steaming' the panel, or maybe even using
some of that 'wood hardener' to stiffen the panel once it's clamped..?

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

Many thanks
Adrian

steaming/soaking plus press drying will flatten the panels..

whether its worth it is something else.

HI (the other) Adrian

On 19 Jun 2007 11:06:24 GMT, Adrian wrote:

Adrian ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of
the interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along
the top of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is
standing a one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original)
- I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them
flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Should I be thinking about 'steaming' the panel, or maybe even using
some of that 'wood hardener' to stiffen the panel once it's clamped..?

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

I've got similar on one of the door trims of a Cit Dyane van. I'm not
convinced it'll be worth the effort to try to rescue them - and that's
without new 'uns being available off the shelf, unlike for a Moggy Thou.

Fair comment.
Amazing how 'available' the bits for the old Morris are....
considering...




My plan - since the vinyl doesn't have any hotwelded "styling" on it, just
a hole for window winder and a couple for armrest - is just to remake the
damn thing in something less pikey than cardboard...

Interesting you should say that.
The rear trim panels (by the rear seats and back to the rear doors)
have also suffered from water getting in through the sliding
windows.... - I was toying with the idea of making up some new ones
from plywood - as I can still use the old ones as patterns.

If the ply was half-decent to start with, and the cut edges nicely
sanded, and a couple of good coats of varnish applied then I'd think
it might look quite presentable. The car's going to be in daily use,
ferrying us and two dogs about the parish, as well as taking all my
stock to a couple of outdoor markets each week - so the varnished ply
might well be a more durable finish than the vinyl....

With the money I've saved I might even get some new shiny self-tapping
screws to fix the panels in place g - or do you think that smacks of
extravagance ?

Regards
Adrian

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
HI All

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of
the interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along
the top of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is
standing a one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original)
- I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them
flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Wet the back of the panels then clamp them flat, or put a small ridge around
the edge and weights in the centre, this may, or may not put a reverse bump
in the panel.

Should I be thinking about 'steaming' the panel, or maybe even using
some of that 'wood hardener' to stiffen the panel once it's clamped..?

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

Many thanks
Adrian

Adrian ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

I've got similar on one of the door trims of a Cit Dyane van. I'm not
convinced it'll be worth the effort to try to rescue them - and that's
without new 'uns being available off the shelf, unlike for a Moggy
Thou.

Fair comment.
Amazing how 'available' the bits for the old Morris are....
considering...

....considering they're all being remanufactured in Sri Lanka, y'mean?
grin

My plan - since the vinyl doesn't have any hotwelded "styling" on it,
just a hole for window winder and a couple for armrest - is just to
remake the damn thing in something less pikey than cardboard...

Interesting you should say that.
The rear trim panels (by the rear seats and back to the rear doors)
have also suffered from water getting in through the sliding
windows.... - I was toying with the idea of making up some new ones
from plywood - as I can still use the old ones as patterns.

If the ply was half-decent to start with, and the cut edges nicely
sanded, and a couple of good coats of varnish applied then I'd think
it might look quite presentable. The car's going to be in daily use,
ferrying us and two dogs about the parish, as well as taking all my
stock to a couple of outdoor markets each week - so the varnished ply
might well be a more durable finish than the vinyl....

Indeed.

With the money I've saved I might even get some new shiny self-tapping
screws to fix the panels in place g - or do you think that smacks of
extravagance ?

Absolute profligacy! You should be ashamed.

Hi other Adrian

On 19 Jun 2007 12:14:39 GMT, Adrian wrote:

Adrian ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

I've got similar on one of the door trims of a Cit Dyane van. I'm not
convinced it'll be worth the effort to try to rescue them - and that's
without new 'uns being available off the shelf, unlike for a Moggy
Thou.

Fair comment.
Amazing how 'available' the bits for the old Morris are....
considering...

...considering they're all being remanufactured in Sri Lanka, y'mean?
grin

Didn't realise - but I guess it's obvious based on the prices....


My plan - since the vinyl doesn't have any hotwelded "styling" on it,
just a hole for window winder and a couple for armrest - is just to
remake the damn thing in something less pikey than cardboard...

Interesting you should say that.
The rear trim panels (by the rear seats and back to the rear doors)
have also suffered from water getting in through the sliding
windows.... - I was toying with the idea of making up some new ones
from plywood - as I can still use the old ones as patterns.

If the ply was half-decent to start with, and the cut edges nicely
sanded, and a couple of good coats of varnish applied then I'd think
it might look quite presentable. The car's going to be in daily use,
ferrying us and two dogs about the parish, as well as taking all my
stock to a couple of outdoor markets each week - so the varnished ply
might well be a more durable finish than the vinyl....

Indeed.

Agreed then g

Need to sort out where the rain was getting in first....
and there's a couple of places where the Ash framework needs a bit of
tlc / wood hardener (yes - I know it's structural....!)


With the money I've saved I might even get some new shiny self-tapping
screws to fix the panels in place g - or do you think that smacks of
extravagance ?

Absolute profligacy! You should be ashamed.

Oh c'mon - we all deserve a bit of profligacy now and then -
you feel all the better for it g

Regards
Adrina

HI

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:30:22 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Adrian wrote:
HI All

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of
the interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along
the top of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is
standing a one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original)
- I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them
flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Should I be thinking about 'steaming' the panel, or maybe even using
some of that 'wood hardener' to stiffen the panel once it's clamped..?

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

Many thanks
Adrian

steaming/soaking plus press drying will flatten the panels..

whether its worth it is something else.

Yes - that's what I was wondering....

May well go with replacement panels (perhaps) for the front doors and
the footwells, unless the existing ones can be saved - and then the
'yacht-look' in the rear and load bay....

Thanks
Adrian

HI Alan

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:56:02 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
wrote:


"Adrian" wrote in message
.. .
HI All

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of
the interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along
the top of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is
standing a one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original)
- I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them
flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Wet the back of the panels then clamp them flat, or put a small ridge around
the edge and weights in the centre, this may, or may not put a reverse bump
in the panel.

Yes....
Sounds a bit like one of those things where you end up with with the
same problem as you started with - but the other way round (if you
know what I mean !)

'Tother problem is whether the clamping process would damage the vinyl
covering.....

The problem's most noticeable along the top of the door trim, ISTR
that my old Midget (though it have been another car altogether!) had a
formed channel at the top of the door into which the top edge of the
trim panel slotted - but I don't really want to go redesigning it !

What fun, eh ??

At least the car port got itself built last week (thanks to all who
contibuted on the discussion) - so the Mog is sitting in the dry -
despite the fact that the rain's absolutely chucking it down at the
moment. The joys of an Irish summer !

Regards
Adrian

HI Owain

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:36:31 +0100, Owain
wrote:

Adrian wrote:
I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.
Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original)
- I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them
flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Would it be possible to steam them so theyr'e soft, then
contact-adhesive them to a sheet of plywood behind to give them
stiffness, doing it all in a vacuum press?

Probably ! (Don't have a vacuum press though)
But it might end up being more trouble than it was worth....

I guess the other way would be to 'skin' the existing panels (as in
'remove the vinyl' - and graft them (who's been watching too much
medical drama on TV !) onto some new hardboard - or even thin ply...

Anybody know what the 'standard' thicknesses are for plywood ?
(Although more to the point will be 'what's available' out here in the
wilds of West Cork !)

Regards
Adrian

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
HI All

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of
the interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along
the top of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is
standing a one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original)
- I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them
flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Should I be thinking about 'steaming' the panel, or maybe even using
some of that 'wood hardener' to stiffen the panel once it's clamped..?

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

I've had parcel shelves of similar material flatten back out after going out
of shape (left hanging by one of two hangers for a couple of months in a
mildly damp shed). Just put it back as it should be and it sorted itself
out. I suspect your biggest problem is goign to be makign something to press
it back flat with. Once that's done, I'd just leave the bits somewhere a bit
damp to get back into shape and then dry them out for a few days in the
house or something, still in the press.

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:04:20 +0100, Adrian wrote:

HI All

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of the
interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along the top
of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is standing a
one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original) - I
was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them flat, to
permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Should I be thinking about 'steaming' the panel, or maybe even using some
of that 'wood hardener' to stiffen the panel once it's clamped..?

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

Many thanks
Adrian

==================================
If you're prepared to wait a bit you can use two sheets of 18mm chipboard
(6' x 2' for weight). Dampen the panels with a solution of water and
Dettol (to prevent mould growth), cover with polythene sheet and place
between the chipboard sheets. Lay flat and add extra weight if available.
Inspect after a few days.

If the hardboard has delaminated forget it.

Cic.
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Using Ubuntu Linux
Windows shown the door
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HI Owain

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:21:17 +0100, Owain
wrote:

Adrian wrote:
Would it be possible to steam them so theyr'e soft, then
contact-adhesive them to a sheet of plywood behind to give them
stiffness, doing it all in a vacuum press?
Probably ! (Don't have a vacuum press though)

You make one out of a strong plastic bag and a vacuum cleaner.

Never thought of that ! Good plan.....

If the
panels aren't too big you can get them inside one of the "space bags"
sold on the TV shopping channels - the sort that compress a duvet into
the size of a face-flannel in the demonstration.

Another good thought - thanks !

Adrian

HI Doki

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:20:03 +0100, "Doki" wrote:


"Adrian" wrote in message
.. .
HI All

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of
the interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along
the top of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is
standing a one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original)
- I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them
flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Should I be thinking about 'steaming' the panel, or maybe even using
some of that 'wood hardener' to stiffen the panel once it's clamped..?

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

I've had parcel shelves of similar material flatten back out after going out
of shape (left hanging by one of two hangers for a couple of months in a
mildly damp shed). Just put it back as it should be and it sorted itself
out. I suspect your biggest problem is goign to be makign something to press
it back flat with. Once that's done, I'd just leave the bits somewhere a bit
damp to get back into shape and then dry them out for a few days in the
house or something, still in the press.

That's a though - I've just sent off for one of those trim removal
thingies (ebay!) - to avoid graunching up the paintwork...

Once I can get the panels off easily, I can see what sort of state the
hardboard is in - and formulate a suitable plan.....

I'm hoping to sell 'the other car' - but want to get sorted any work
that's going to take the Moggie off the road _before_ it becomes our
only mode of transport...

Thanks
Adrian

HI Cic

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:43:51 GMT, Cicero
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:04:20 +0100, Adrian wrote:

HI All

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of the
interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along the top
of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is standing a
one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original) - I
was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them flat, to
permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Should I be thinking about 'steaming' the panel, or maybe even using some
of that 'wood hardener' to stiffen the panel once it's clamped..?

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

Many thanks
Adrian

==================================
If you're prepared to wait a bit you can use two sheets of 18mm chipboard
(6' x 2' for weight).

That's a thought..

Dampen the panels with a solution of water and
Dettol (to prevent mould growth)

ah - I see you've been there before g

, cover with polythene sheet and place
between the chipboard sheets. Lay flat and add extra weight if available.
Inspect after a few days.

OK


If the hardboard has delaminated forget it.

As I said elsewhere - once I get the widget for removing the trim
panels safely I'll take a look at the state of the hardboard and take
it from there.

Tanks for the advice
Adrian

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:31:03 +0100, Adrian wrote:

HI Cic

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:43:51 GMT, Cicero wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:04:20 +0100, Adrian wrote:

HI All

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of
the interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along
the top of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is
standing a one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original) -
I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them
flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Should I be thinking about 'steaming' the panel, or maybe even using
some of that 'wood hardener' to stiffen the panel once it's clamped..?

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

Many thanks
Adrian

==================================
If you're prepared to wait a bit you can use two sheets of 18mm chipboard
(6' x 2' for weight).

That's a thought..

Dampen the panels with a solution of water and Dettol (to prevent mould
growth)

ah - I see you've been there before g

, cover with polythene sheet and place between the chipboard sheets. Lay
flat and add extra weight if available. Inspect after a few days.

OK


If the hardboard has delaminated forget it.

As I said elsewhere - once I get the widget for removing the trim panels
safely I'll take a look at the state of the hardboard and take it from
there.

Tanks for the advice
Adrian

==================================
Just a final thought. It's not actually hardboard. It's called 'fibre
board' so if you're shopping for replacements that's the name to look for.
It's more flexible than hardboard. Early Minis used it for door panels
without any covering.

Cic.

--
===================================
Using Ubuntu Linux
Windows shown the door
===================================

Hi Cic

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:57:52 GMT, Cicero
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:31:03 +0100, Adrian wrote:

HI Cic

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:43:51 GMT, Cicero wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:04:20 +0100, Adrian wrote:

HI All

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of
the interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along
the top of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is
standing a one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original) -
I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them
flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Should I be thinking about 'steaming' the panel, or maybe even using
some of that 'wood hardener' to stiffen the panel once it's clamped..?

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

Many thanks
Adrian

==================================
If you're prepared to wait a bit you can use two sheets of 18mm chipboard
(6' x 2' for weight).

That's a thought..

Dampen the panels with a solution of water and Dettol (to prevent mould
growth)

ah - I see you've been there before g

, cover with polythene sheet and place between the chipboard sheets. Lay
flat and add extra weight if available. Inspect after a few days.

OK


If the hardboard has delaminated forget it.

As I said elsewhere - once I get the widget for removing the trim panels
safely I'll take a look at the state of the hardboard and take it from
there.

Tanks for the advice
Adrian

==================================
Just a final thought. It's not actually hardboard. It's called 'fibre
board' so if you're shopping for replacements that's the name to look for.
It's more flexible than hardboard. Early Minis used it for door panels
without any covering.

I sort of knew that g - but couldn't think of the right name...
Thanks !

Adrian

On 19 Jun, 14:21, Owain wrote:
Adrian wrote:

Would it be possible to steam them so theyr'e soft, then
contact-adhesive them to a sheet of plywood behind to give them
stiffness, doing it all in a vacuum press?
Probably ! (Don't have a vacuum press though)

You make one out of a strong plastic bag and a vacuum cleaner. If the
panels aren't too big you can get them inside one of the "space bags"
sold on the TV shopping channels - the sort that compress a duvet into
the size of a face-flannel in the demonstration.

Owain

or you could use the moggy to get a decent vacuum, hook it up to the
connection on the carb that operates the advance/retard diaphragm.


NT

Adrian wrote:
Hi Cic

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:57:52 GMT, Cicero
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:31:03 +0100, Adrian wrote:

HI Cic

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:43:51 GMT, Cicero wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:04:20 +0100, Adrian wrote:

HI All

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of
the interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along
the top of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is
standing a one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original) -
I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them
flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Should I be thinking about 'steaming' the panel, or maybe even using
some of that 'wood hardener' to stiffen the panel once it's clamped..?

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

Many thanks
Adrian
==================================
If you're prepared to wait a bit you can use two sheets of 18mm chipboard
(6' x 2' for weight).
That's a thought..

Dampen the panels with a solution of water and Dettol (to prevent mould
growth)
ah - I see you've been there before g

, cover with polythene sheet and place between the chipboard sheets. Lay
flat and add extra weight if available. Inspect after a few days.
OK


If the hardboard has delaminated forget it.
As I said elsewhere - once I get the widget for removing the trim panels
safely I'll take a look at the state of the hardboard and take it from
there.

Tanks for the advice
Adrian
==================================
Just a final thought. It's not actually hardboard. It's called 'fibre
board' so if you're shopping for replacements that's the name to look for.
It's more flexible than hardboard. Early Minis used it for door panels
without any covering.

I sort of knew that g - but couldn't think of the right name...
Thanks !

Adrian

The "fibre board" I've seen around is is used for notice boards etc.
Takes a drawing pin easily but too soft for much else.
Oil tempered hardboard stays flat but is quite a lot dearer than the
standard stuff

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:59:24 +0000, Stuart Noble wrote:

Adrian wrote:
Hi Cic

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:57:52 GMT, Cicero
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:31:03 +0100, Adrian wrote:

HI Cic

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:43:51 GMT, Cicero
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:04:20 +0100, Adrian wrote:

HI All

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some
of the interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are
along the top of the doors, just under the window seal - where the
panel is standing a one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably
original) - I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and
clamping them flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Should I be thinking about 'steaming' the panel, or maybe even using
some of that 'wood hardener' to stiffen the panel once it's
clamped..?

Anybody done this - or is it a waste of time ??

Many thanks
Adrian
==================================
If you're prepared to wait a bit you can use two sheets of 18mm
chipboard (6' x 2' for weight).
That's a thought..

Dampen the panels with a solution of water and Dettol (to prevent
mould growth)
ah - I see you've been there before g

, cover with polythene sheet and place between the chipboard sheets.
Lay flat and add extra weight if available. Inspect after a few days.
OK


If the hardboard has delaminated forget it.
As I said elsewhere - once I get the widget for removing the trim
panels safely I'll take a look at the state of the hardboard and take
it from there.

Tanks for the advice
Adrian
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Just a final thought. It's not actually hardboard. It's called 'fibre
board' so if you're shopping for replacements that's the name to look
for. It's more flexible than hardboard. Early Minis used it for door
panels without any covering.

I sort of knew that g - but couldn't think of the right name... Thanks
!

Adrian

The "fibre board" I've seen around is is used for notice boards etc. Takes
a drawing pin easily but too soft for much else. Oil tempered hardboard
stays flat but is quite a lot dearer than the standard stuff

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This is a different type of fibre board. It's not like the thick (1/2")
notice board stuff. Nor is it hardboard. It looks and works a bit like the
material used for those old cheap fibre suitcases - it might actually be
the same thing.

You'll see it in the dash and door panels of old Minis and in the boot
linings of cheap old cars.

Cic.



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"Adrian" wrote in message
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HI Alan

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:56:02 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
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"Adrian" wrote in message
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HI All

I'm looking for ways to flatten, and keep flattened, the interior
hardboard-and-vinyl panels on my recently-acquired '64 Morris
Traveller.

At some stage in the past the old girl's let in rainwater, and some of
the interior panels have buckled. The particularly bad areas are along
the top of the doors, just under the window seal - where the panel is
standing a one to two cm away from the door in some places.

Rather than replace the whole lot (I think they're probably original)
- I was wondering about ways of removing the panels and clamping them
flat, to permanantly remove the 'wavyness'...

Wet the back of the panels then clamp them flat, or put a small ridge
around
the edge and weights in the centre, this may, or may not put a reverse
bump
in the panel.

Yes....
Sounds a bit like one of those things where you end up with with the
same problem as you started with - but the other way round (if you
know what I mean !)

'Tother problem is whether the clamping process would damage the vinyl
covering.....

Don't use a clamp, put some soft cushion material on the thing and place
heavy weights on it.