Anyone tell me what is the maximum number of double sockets one can
have on one 32-amp ring main?

And how many spurs (with a double socket on each) can one have on one
32-amp ring?

Thank you,

Jim B

In article ,
Jim B Jim writes:

Anyone tell me what is the maximum number of double sockets one can
have on one 32-amp ring main?

And how many spurs (with a double socket on each) can one have on one
32-amp ring?

There are no limits on either count.

It is recommended that a ring not supply power for more than 100m²
of floor area. However, this is for general purpose usage, and if you
know more precisely how the ring is going to be used, you should take
that into account and modify this figure accordingly.

It is recommended that a ring should not have more spurs than directly
connected sockets/accessories. This is because a ring normally starts
with no spurs, and if it's been extended to the point where there are
as many spurs as original outlets, then the current demand for outlets
has well exceeded what the ring was originally designed for.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On 25 May, 19:02, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
In article ,
Jim B Jim writes:

Anyone tell me what is the maximum number of double sockets one can
have on one 32-amp ring main?

And how many spurs (with a double socket on each) can one have on one
32-amp ring?

There are no limits on either count.

It is recommended that a ring not supply power for more than 100m²
of floor area. However, this is for general purpose usage, and if you
know more precisely how the ring is going to be used, you should take
that into account and modify this figure accordingly.

It is recommended that a ring should not have more spurs than directly
connected sockets/accessories. This is because a ring normally starts
with no spurs, and if it's been extended to the point where there are
as many spurs as original outlets, then the current demand for outlets
has well exceeded what the ring was originally designed for.


100m^2 is 10m x 10m, perimeter of which is 40m. Average double socket
size around 6" = 15cm. 40m/6cm = 666 double sockets or 1333
sockets.


NT

On 25 May 2007 11:17:36 -0700, mused:

On 25 May, 19:02, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
In article ,
Jim B Jim writes:

Anyone tell me what is the maximum number of double sockets one can
have on one 32-amp ring main?

And how many spurs (with a double socket on each) can one have on one
32-amp ring?

There are no limits on either count.

It is recommended that a ring not supply power for more than 100m²
of floor area. However, this is for general purpose usage, and if you
know more precisely how the ring is going to be used, you should take
that into account and modify this figure accordingly.

It is recommended that a ring should not have more spurs than directly
connected sockets/accessories. This is because a ring normally starts
with no spurs, and if it's been extended to the point where there are
as many spurs as original outlets, then the current demand for outlets
has well exceeded what the ring was originally designed for.


100m^2 is 10m x 10m, perimeter of which is 40m. Average double socket
size around 6" = 15cm. 40m/6cm = 666 double sockets or 1333
sockets.

As I have mentioned before, you talk ******** at times.

_FLOOR_ area, not wall area.
--
Regards,
Stuart.

Lurch wrote:
On 25 May 2007 11:17:36 -0700, mused:


On 25 May, 19:02, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
Jim B Jim writes:

Anyone tell me what is the maximum number of double sockets one can
have on one 32-amp ring main?

And how many spurs (with a double socket on each) can one have on one
32-amp ring?

There are no limits on either count.

It is recommended that a ring not supply power for more than 100m²
of floor area. However, this is for general purpose usage, and if you
know more precisely how the ring is going to be used, you should take
that into account and modify this figure accordingly.

It is recommended that a ring should not have more spurs than directly
connected sockets/accessories. This is because a ring normally starts
with no spurs, and if it's been extended to the point where there are
as many spurs as original outlets, then the current demand for outlets
has well exceeded what the ring was originally designed for.


100m^2 is 10m x 10m, perimeter of which is 40m. Average double socket
size around 6" = 15cm. 40m/6cm = 666 double sockets or 1333
sockets.


As I have mentioned before, you talk ******** at times.

_FLOOR_ area, not wall area.

I must be misunderstanding the calculation. The 100m^2 floor has a
perimeter of 40m. Where is the error in his calculation?
I accept that he has made no provision for doors in his hypothetical
building.

On Fri, 25 May 2007 19:43:10 +0100, PJ mused:

Lurch wrote:
On 25 May 2007 11:17:36 -0700, mused:


On 25 May, 19:02, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
Jim B Jim writes:

Anyone tell me what is the maximum number of double sockets one can
have on one 32-amp ring main?

And how many spurs (with a double socket on each) can one have on one
32-amp ring?

There are no limits on either count.

It is recommended that a ring not supply power for more than 100m²
of floor area. However, this is for general purpose usage, and if you
know more precisely how the ring is going to be used, you should take
that into account and modify this figure accordingly.

It is recommended that a ring should not have more spurs than directly
connected sockets/accessories. This is because a ring normally starts
with no spurs, and if it's been extended to the point where there are
as many spurs as original outlets, then the current demand for outlets
has well exceeded what the ring was originally designed for.


100m^2 is 10m x 10m, perimeter of which is 40m. Average double socket
size around 6" = 15cm. 40m/6cm = 666 double sockets or 1333
sockets.


As I have mentioned before, you talk ******** at times.

_FLOOR_ area, not wall area.

I must be misunderstanding the calculation. The 100m^2 floor has a
perimeter of 40m. Where is the error in his calculation?
I accept that he has made no provision for doors in his hypothetical
building.

Height = infinite, therefore, sockets = infinte. Doesn't matter what
other numbers you put in, once you multiply them infinitely they are
rather high.

Also, a single socket isn't half the size of a double.
--
Regards,
Stuart.

On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:43:10 UTC, PJ wrote:

Lurch wrote:
On 25 May 2007 11:17:36 -0700, mused:


On 25 May, 19:02, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
Jim B Jim writes:

Anyone tell me what is the maximum number of double sockets one can
have on one 32-amp ring main?

And how many spurs (with a double socket on each) can one have on one
32-amp ring?

There are no limits on either count.

It is recommended that a ring not supply power for more than 100m²
of floor area. However, this is for general purpose usage, and if you
know more precisely how the ring is going to be used, you should take
that into account and modify this figure accordingly.

It is recommended that a ring should not have more spurs than directly
connected sockets/accessories. This is because a ring normally starts
with no spurs, and if it's been extended to the point where there are
as many spurs as original outlets, then the current demand for outlets
has well exceeded what the ring was originally designed for.


100m^2 is 10m x 10m, perimeter of which is 40m. Average double socket
size around 6" = 15cm. 40m/6cm = 666 double sockets or 1333
sockets.


As I have mentioned before, you talk ******** at times.

_FLOOR_ area, not wall area.

I must be misunderstanding the calculation. The 100m^2 floor has a
perimeter of 40m. Where is the error in his calculation?
I accept that he has made no provision for doors in his hypothetical
building.

You're assuming all one room. There is much more wall area (and
potential for sockets) if there are several rooms within that.

There is also the limitation on total *length* of the ring to consider.
--
The information contained in this post is copyright the
poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by
http://www.diybanter.com

PJ wrote:
Lurch wrote:
On 25 May 2007 11:17:36 -0700, mused:


On 25 May, 19:02, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
Jim B Jim writes:

Anyone tell me what is the maximum number of double sockets one can
have on one 32-amp ring main?

And how many spurs (with a double socket on each) can one have on one
32-amp ring?

There are no limits on either count.

It is recommended that a ring not supply power for more than 100m²
of floor area. However, this is for general purpose usage, and if you
know more precisely how the ring is going to be used, you should take
that into account and modify this figure accordingly.

It is recommended that a ring should not have more spurs than directly
connected sockets/accessories. This is because a ring normally starts
with no spurs, and if it's been extended to the point where there are
as many spurs as original outlets, then the current demand for outlets
has well exceeded what the ring was originally designed for.


100m^2 is 10m x 10m, perimeter of which is 40m. Average double socket
size around 6" = 15cm. 40m/6cm = 666 double sockets or 1333
sockets.


As I have mentioned before, you talk ******** at times.

_FLOOR_ area, not wall area.

I must be misunderstanding the calculation. The 100m^2 floor has a
perimeter of 40m. Where is the error in his calculation?
I accept that he has made no provision for doors in his hypothetical
building.


well 100m^2 of floor might be 100meters long and one meter wide, which
is 200m of perimeter. Plenty of room for a couple of doors now.

And by stacking the sockets on top of one another to fill the regulation
space between 450mm and 1.2m or whatever it is, I reckon you could get
about 10,0000 sockets on a ring.


Ive seen some computer rooms like that... ;-)

On May 25, 7:23 pm, Lurch wrote:
On 25 May 2007 11:17:36 -0700, mused:





On 25 May, 19:02, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
In article ,
Jim B Jim writes:

Anyone tell me what is the maximum number of double sockets one can
have on one 32-amp ring main?

And how many spurs (with a double socket on each) can one have on one
32-amp ring?

There are no limits on either count.

It is recommended that a ring not supply power for more than 100m²
of floor area. However, this is for general purpose usage, and if you
know more precisely how the ring is going to be used, you should take
that into account and modify this figure accordingly.

It is recommended that a ring should not have more spurs than directly
connected sockets/accessories. This is because a ring normally starts
with no spurs, and if it's been extended to the point where there are
as many spurs as original outlets, then the current demand for outlets
has well exceeded what the ring was originally designed for.

100m^2 is 10m x 10m, perimeter of which is 40m. Average double socket
size around 6" = 15cm. 40m/6cm = 666 double sockets or 1333
sockets.

As I have mentioned before, you talk ******** at times.

_FLOOR_ area, not wall area.

Who's talking ********?

MBQ

On 25 May, 19:23, Lurch wrote:
On 25 May 2007 11:17:36 -0700, mused:
On 25 May, 19:02, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
In article ,
Jim B Jim writes:

Anyone tell me what is the maximum number of double sockets one can
have on one 32-amp ring main?

And how many spurs (with a double socket on each) can one have on one
32-amp ring?

There are no limits on either count.

It is recommended that a ring not supply power for more than 100m²
of floor area. However, this is for general purpose usage, and if you
know more precisely how the ring is going to be used, you should take
that into account and modify this figure accordingly.

It is recommended that a ring should not have more spurs than directly
connected sockets/accessories. This is because a ring normally starts
with no spurs, and if it's been extended to the point where there are
as many spurs as original outlets, then the current demand for outlets
has well exceeded what the ring was originally designed for.

100m^2 is 10m x 10m, perimeter of which is 40m. Average double socket
size around 6" = 15cm. 40m/6cm = 666 double sockets or 1333
sockets.

As I have mentioned before, you talk ******** at times.

_FLOOR_ area, not wall area.


Lol! Did you seriously fail to spot this was humour? Did the absurd
assumptions, absurd conclusion and smiley not give any clues here?

The calc above makes a whole string of nonsense assumptions. Your
criticism is not one of them though. If I were a retard calculating on
wall area as you suggest, one would have to take into account the 8'
or so wall height, which would multiply the absurd result by 8'/3",
giving over 40,000 sockets!


NT

PS re doors, I guess you could legally cover those in sockets too

On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:43:01 +0100, Jim B Jim
mused:


Anyone tell me what is the maximum number of double sockets one can
have on one 32-amp ring main?

As many as you want. The limit is floor area, currently 100 sq metres
for a 32A 2.5mm ring main.

And how many spurs (with a double socket on each) can one have on one
32-amp ring?

As many spurs as sockets on the ring, but if you're wiring new then
you shouldn't have any.
--
Regards,
Stuart.