Folks,

I've just received my 3rd towel radiator (cat #16899) from Screwfix.

The first one had rusty marks in the chrome on the top just where the
plug screws in, so that had to go back.

A replacement duly arrived which looked fine. I installrd that, and
connected up the water. That was when I discovered it leaked at the
joint between one of the horizontal bars and the left-hand upright.

So I complained about that one too. A repacement has just arrived and
now I'm sending that one back as well. It's obviously been out and
rejected before being sent on to me. There are scratches all over it
and some of the chrome's chipped. It's been installed once before as
you can see marks left by rust-stained water. I just can't believe
they've sent me a second-hand (and probably defective) radiator. It
reminds me of Dixons.

This time I'm getting one somwhere else. I'm impressed with Screwfix's
efficiency but I think that some of their stuff is of very dubious
quality. This radiator isn't the first duffer I've had from them.

Has anyone else found the same with this towel-rail is it just me?

TC

Not used the Screwfix towel rail but if it's any help I can recommend the
ones made by Jeeves. You can pick them up at Homebase but I got mine from
TLC (the electrical wholesalers)

HTH

Jim

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Folks,

I've just received my 3rd towel radiator (cat #16899) from Screwfix.

The first one had rusty marks in the chrome on the top just where the
plug screws in, so that had to go back.

A replacement duly arrived which looked fine. I installrd that, and
connected up the water. That was when I discovered it leaked at the
joint between one of the horizontal bars and the left-hand upright.

So I complained about that one too. A repacement has just arrived and
now I'm sending that one back as well. It's obviously been out and
rejected before being sent on to me. There are scratches all over it
and some of the chrome's chipped. It's been installed once before as
you can see marks left by rust-stained water. I just can't believe
they've sent me a second-hand (and probably defective) radiator. It
reminds me of Dixons.

This time I'm getting one somwhere else. I'm impressed with Screwfix's
efficiency but I think that some of their stuff is of very dubious
quality. This radiator isn't the first duffer I've had from them.

Has anyone else found the same with this towel-rail is it just me?

TC

OK TC.
I am (was)on the verge of ordering the white version.
Worried now...
Spose there must be a reason why proper (branded) ones have a
'1' in front of the price, but I can't run to that. Do I gamble or go
for a rad with a towel rail over?

Re other crap from SF.
Their "heavy duty" pipe bender started flattening the pipe before
I'd finished the plumbing in the bathroom. I'm about to do the CH
for the whole house - what now.


Jono


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I am (was)on the verge of ordering the white version.
Worried now...
Spose there must be a reason why proper (branded) ones have a
'1' in front of the price, but I can't run to that. Do I gamble or go
for a rad with a towel rail over?

I got a 'ladder; style one from B&Q a few years ago - I think they are
made by 'Hydroline' it was a reasonable price and has been fine.

Re other crap from SF.
Their "heavy duty" pipe bender started flattening the pipe before
I'd finished the plumbing in the bathroom. I'm about to do the CH
for the whole house - what now.

Use plastic, such as Hep2O ?
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I'm about to do the CH for the whole house - what now.

Use plastic, such as Hep2O ?

I've already bought the copper tube...
Wanted to use copper where it shows, with neat bends. Mebbe use plasket
under the floor. Still not sold on it though.

BTW, plumber who came to quote for CH sys looked at some John Guest
pushfit
fittings (Screwfix) I had used & said disparagingly "where d'you get
those?". Any real downers on them, or was he just being snobby for
Hepworths?
Jono






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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:26:48 +0000 (UTC), "Jonathan Webb"
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I'm about to do the CH for the whole house - what now.

Use plastic, such as Hep2O ?

I've already bought the copper tube...
Wanted to use copper where it shows, with neat bends. Mebbe use plasket
under the floor. Still not sold on it though.

BTW, plumber who came to quote for CH sys looked at some John Guest
pushfit
fittings (Screwfix) I had used & said disparagingly "where d'you get
those?". Any real downers on them, or was he just being snobby for
Hepworths?
Jono

I've used plastic for certain heating applications. Personally I
prefer JG Speedfit to Hepworth fittings for two reasons.

a) There is an optional insert with O-ring. This aligns the pipe
properly and provides a second seal.

b) There is a twist lock mechanism.


..andy

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"I'm about to do the CH
for the whole house - what now.

Go and buy a Rothenburger one from the plumber's merchant.....

Ouch and double ouch?
Jono



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I'm about to do the CH for the whole house - what now.

Use plastic, such as Hep2O ?

I've already bought the copper tube...
Wanted to use copper where it shows, with neat bends. Mebbe use plasket
under the floor. Still not sold on it though.

BTW, plumber who came to quote for CH sys looked at some John Guest
pushfit
fittings (Screwfix) I had used & said disparagingly "where d'you get
those?". Any real downers on them, or was he just being snobby for
Hepworths?
Jono

Marley Equator is the best plastic effort. It has a stainless steel insert
for the pipe and the fittings have a metal rinmg aporound them. This
prevents the pipe and fitting ovaling when hot.

better still use copper piper (v cheap)and pushfit brass fittings, if you
want to go the pushfit route.


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"I'm about to do the CH
for the whole house - what now.

Go and buy a Rothenburger one from the plumber's merchant.....

Ouch and double ouch?
Jono

Drayton do a good bender.


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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:26:48 +0000 (UTC), "Jonathan Webb"
wrote:

BTW, plumber who came to quote for CH sys looked at some John Guest
pushfit
fittings (Screwfix) I had used & said disparagingly "where d'you get
those?". Any real downers on them, or was he just being snobby for
Hepworths?
Jono

I've used plastic for certain heating applications. Personally I
prefer JG Speedfit to Hepworth fittings for two reasons.

a) There is an optional insert with O-ring. This aligns the pipe
properly and provides a second seal.

b) There is a twist lock mechanism.

c)* you can get them apart again (without laboriously prizing off the grab
ring, as you have to do with the Hep fittings)



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Andy Hall wrote:

Re other crap from SF.
Their "heavy duty" pipe bender started flattening the pipe before
I'd finished the plumbing in the bathroom. I'm about to do the CH
for the whole house - what now.


Go and buy a Rothenburger one from the plumber's merchant.....




Jono


.andy

Yep, second that, haven't had any problems with my Rothenburger pipe
bender. They are not really any more costly than the crap ones, well not
much anyway :-)

Lee

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On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 01:48:19 +0100, Lee Blaver
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Yep, second that, haven't had any problems with my Rothenburger pipe
bender. They are not really any more costly than the crap ones, well not
much anyway :-)

I'm going to show my ignorance a bit here, so please bear with me.....

A short time ago on this forum someone said they'd got a pipe bender
from ebay for around 20 quid and they were happy with it. Now I'm used
to seeing pipe benders in the sheds for about 45 quid, so I thought
I'd hop over to ebay.

Sure enough there are pipe benders available for 15mm/22mm for around
20 quid. Haven't bought one yet but it's on the to-do list.

Am I looking at something which I'd be better off avoiding then?

Andrew

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A short time ago on this forum someone said they'd got a pipe bender
from ebay for around 20 quid and they were happy with it. Now I'm used
to seeing pipe benders in the sheds for about 45 quid, so I thought
I'd hop over to ebay.

That was me, I've not done a lot with it but it worked very well when I did
use it, and after all if you arn't happy you can relist it on e-bay. When I
bought mine I had to wait as there were lots of them appearing but going for
nearly the market price when postage was added. I just waited and got
bidding in a aution whith little interest and got it for for just over £20.

Just to show people who don't use e-bay what can happen, I bought a flute
for my son for £124, next one sold for £180, exactly the same flute from the
same seller, saw a brand new Bosch Cordless jiigsaw go for £52, with only 2
bidders. One before that went for £98 and the one after went for £76. The
secret is to know what the item you buying costs in the shops or on the web.
I never bit until the last 30 seconds and my wife and I have bought Colaport
figurines, toys for the kids, bit for my PC, books for mother in law, dress
making tools and power tools, very nice Bosch Cordeless Hammer drill, brand
new £20 less than the shops.

Cheers
Jonathan

On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 08:43:27 +0100, "Jonathan@Home"
wrote:


A short time ago on this forum someone said they'd got a pipe bender
from ebay for around 20 quid and they were happy with it. Now I'm used
to seeing pipe benders in the sheds for about 45 quid, so I thought
I'd hop over to ebay.

That was me, I've not done a lot with it but it worked very well when I did
use it, and after all if you arn't happy you can relist it on e-bay. When I
bought mine I had to wait as there were lots of them appearing but going for
nearly the market price when postage was added. I just waited and got
bidding in a aution whith little interest and got it for for just over £20.

Just to show people who don't use e-bay what can happen, I bought a flute
for my son for £124, next one sold for £180, exactly the same flute from the
same seller, saw a brand new Bosch Cordless jiigsaw go for £52, with only 2
bidders. One before that went for £98 and the one after went for £76. The

That's going to be 3 very disappointed buyers then My own
experience with the Bosch cordless jigsaw made me give it to me Dad
and go buy the very nice corded PST850E from the local shed 'cos it
was end of range and therefore £29.95 instead of the usual price.

The batteries in those things are NiCds instead of NiMHs, so they last
for 5 minutes - last time I used one was cutting a hole in a door that
was approx 3'x1' and it only got half of it done.....the battery also
heats up in use and when its hot you can't recharge it until its
cooled down.......v.annoying. Spare batteries (if you can find 'em)
cost as much as the jigsaw!

Hate to think how long their cordless circular saw lasts....

witchy/binarydinosaurs

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On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 08:43:27 +0100, "Jonathan@Home"
wrote:

That was me, I've not done a lot with it but it worked very well when I did
use it, and after all if you arn't happy you can relist it on e-bay. When I
bought mine I had to wait as there were lots of them appearing but going for
nearly the market price when postage was added. I just waited and got
bidding in a aution whith little interest and got it for for just over £20.

Thanks for that! I think I will invest in one shortly.

Andrew

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web site at http://www.handymac.co.uk

Jonathan,

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Jonathan Webb wrote:

OK TC.
I am (was)on the verge of ordering the white version.
Worried now...
Spose there must be a reason why proper (branded) ones have a
'1' in front of the price, but I can't run to that. Do I gamble or go
for a rad with a towel rail over?

I've fitted several and they have all been fine, both white and chrome.



I've fitted the curved chrome one - no problems.

Andy.

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"Andy Evans" wrote in message ...
Jonathan,

"Ed Sirett" wrote in message
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Jonathan Webb wrote:

OK TC.
I am (was)on the verge of ordering the white version.
Worried now...
Spose there must be a reason why proper (branded) ones have a
'1' in front of the price, but I can't run to that. Do I gamble or go
for a rad with a towel rail over?

I've fitted several and they have all been fine, both white and chrome.



I've fitted the curved chrome one - no problems.

Andy.

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Me too. I know this doesn't help the OP but I think it's probably
worth speaking up in case for future potential buyers.

Mat

On 10 Jul 2003 09:15:56 -0700, (Mathew J.
Newton) wrote:

"Andy Evans" wrote in message ...
Jonathan,

"Ed Sirett" wrote in message
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Jonathan Webb wrote:

OK TC.
I am (was)on the verge of ordering the white version.
Worried now...
Spose there must be a reason why proper (branded) ones have a
'1' in front of the price, but I can't run to that. Do I gamble or go
for a rad with a towel rail over?

I've fitted several and they have all been fine, both white and chrome.



I've fitted the curved chrome one - no problems.

Andy.

snip

Me too. I know this doesn't help the OP but I think it's probably
worth speaking up in case for future potential buyers.

Mat

Well, after having tried three I gave up. En route the the plumbers'
merchant, I had a look in Focus (not my favourite store by a long
chalk) and saw some similar to the Screwfix chrome one.

I tried the plumbers' merchant but he would have needed to order them
in, and I needed something that would fit the mountings I'd already
fixed to the wall, not wanting to do any more drilling and filling.

So Focus it was. I put that one up and it was fine - and at £99, a
tenner cheaper than Screwfix's one. The quality seemed just a little
higher too.

Cheers,

TC