I don't want to have to repaint an entire wall because of one or two
hairline cracks.

I believe I am right in saying that the Dulux paint matching service
only matches to the closest Dulux colour.

How hard is it to tint a colour to get an exact match? Or a match as
near as dammit so that only close inspection would reveal a
difference.

The colour is currently building industry standard magnolia, matt
emulsion.

MM

"MM" wrote in message
...
I don't want to have to repaint an entire wall because of one or
two
hairline cracks.
snip

Take a sample to someone who has a colour spectrometer and can match
the type of paint, perhaps a trade paint supplier.

The message
from MM contains these words:

I believe I am right in saying that the Dulux paint matching service
only matches to the closest Dulux colour.

As far as I know they match to the closest their machine is capable of
dispensing the tints to.

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MM wrote:
I don't want to have to repaint an entire wall because of one or two
hairline cracks.

I believe I am right in saying that the Dulux paint matching service
only matches to the closest Dulux colour.

How hard is it to tint a colour to get an exact match? Or a match as
near as dammit so that only close inspection would reveal a
difference.

The colour is currently building industry standard magnolia, matt
emulsion.

MM

Last time I got a match from the Dulux machine for one of their own
discontinued colours it wasn't even close

Jerry wrote:
"MM" wrote in message
...
I don't want to have to repaint an entire wall because of one or
two
hairline cracks.
snip

Take a sample to someone who has a colour spectrometer and can match
the type of paint, perhaps a trade paint supplier.

thats the most common colour in use so I cant see a problem if you use
that standard paint and use magnolia matt emulsion. Its bog common and
easily matched compared to any other colour.

The mega rich landlords of London for example use that colour on their
terraces of houses precisely for this reason. a touch up of a bad patch
is all that is needed and no undercoats required.
These guys have the real experience and know how to economise on
painting.

"MM" wrote in message
...
I don't want to have to repaint an entire wall because of one or two
hairline cracks.

I believe I am right in saying that the Dulux paint matching service
only matches to the closest Dulux colour.

How hard is it to tint a colour to get an exact match? Or a match as
near as dammit so that only close inspection would reveal a
difference.

The colour is currently building industry standard magnolia, matt
emulsion.

MM

========================
Buy some white matt and a 'tester' pot from the same shade chart as magnolia
(coffee, beige??). Mix and test progressively until you get a good match.

Cic.


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"MM" wrote:
I don't want to have to repaint an entire wall because of one or two
hairline cracks.

I believe I am right in saying that the Dulux paint matching service
only matches to the closest Dulux colour.

How hard is it to tint a colour to get an exact match? Or a match as
near as dammit so that only close inspection would reveal a
difference.

The colour is currently building industry standard magnolia, matt
emulsion.

MM

Unless it is from the same batch and properly stirred you are taking pot
luck in getting an exact match.

wrote in message
oups.com...

Jerry wrote:
"MM" wrote in message
...
I don't want to have to repaint an entire wall because of one
or
two
hairline cracks.
snip

Take a sample to someone who has a colour spectrometer and can
match
the type of paint, perhaps a trade paint supplier.

thats the most common colour in use so I cant see a problem if you
use
that standard paint and use magnolia matt emulsion. Its bog common
and
easily matched compared to any other colour.


You didn't read the subject line did you... The OP wants an exact
match.

"Guy King" wrote in message
...
The message
from MM contains these words:

I believe I am right in saying that the Dulux paint matching
service
only matches to the closest Dulux colour.

As far as I know they match to the closest their machine is capable
of
dispensing the tints to.


That is down to the operator [1], there is nothing lacking about a
machine that can dispense tinters...

[1] more to the point, no wish or time to do the job properly.

MM wrote:

I don't want to have to repaint an entire wall because of one or two
hairline cracks.

I believe I am right in saying that the Dulux paint matching service
only matches to the closest Dulux colour.

How hard is it to tint a colour to get an exact match? Or a match as
near as dammit so that only close inspection would reveal a
difference.

The colour is currently building industry standard magnolia, matt
emulsion.

MM

Its easy to get a close match most times _if_ you do it right.
Appreciate that paint changes tint over time, and gets unevenly dirty.
The eye may not notice it, but its there, so unless paint has just been
applied it wont be the same exact colour all over.

The Golden Rule in paint matching is to clean the existing paintwork.
Only then can you get a chip off thats the right colour, and only then
can you have an existing paintwork thats at least close to consistent
colour all over.
Now with a decent colour matching service you'll _usually_ get a decent
match.

To make the match appear even better, if your workpiece is divided into
areas, eg by alcoves, corners etc, paint the whole section. The eye
will not notice small variations when they occur on a corner.


If mixing your own,
a) its not easy to get it spot on, and it does need to be spot on.
b) always fill little chips and holes with something either identical
or a tiny bit duller, never with anything even a trace brighter.
c) underfill rather than overfill chips. when your face is 5" away,
overfill looks ok, underfill looks bad, but when youre stood up
normally its the other way round.


NT

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:22:16 +0100, "Jerry"
wrote:


wrote in message
roups.com...

Jerry wrote:
"MM" wrote in message
...
I don't want to have to repaint an entire wall because of one
or
two
hairline cracks.
snip

Take a sample to someone who has a colour spectrometer and can
match
the type of paint, perhaps a trade paint supplier.

thats the most common colour in use so I cant see a problem if you
use
that standard paint and use magnolia matt emulsion. Its bog common
and
easily matched compared to any other colour.


You didn't read the subject line did you... The OP wants an exact
match.

Well, I bought two match pots containing emulsion, one Dulux and the
other Wilkinson's own brand. There is a subtle difference between
them. Probably, magnolia is available from several other paint
suppliers, too. I want to fill the hairline cracks as inconspicuously
as possible, then "dust" over with matching paint. If the match is
really close, I could then leave the wall for a few weeks and then
gently wash over it with a damp cloth to even out the shade still
more. I reckon it should be possible to effect a repair that was
practically indistinguishable. Think of it like repairing those vases
the bloke broke with the busted shoelace!

MM

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:35:49 +0100, MM wrote:


I believe I am right in saying that the Dulux paint matching service
only matches to the closest Dulux colour.

How hard is it to tint a colour to get an exact match? Or a match as
near as dammit so that only close inspection would reveal a
difference.

The colour is currently building industry standard magnolia, matt
emulsion.

Dulux should be able to match 'your' magnolia because they 'should'
have their own magnolia and magnolia is a BS colour, 08B15 as I
recall. However, as some of the other contributors have noted, colour
matchig is a bit of a black art. When it works it's brilliant but it
doesn't always work. Crown have spectrometers that match to the
specimen, they don't like dark reds/maroons but are usually ok with
light colours, that was my experience when I worked for them.

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:14:09 +0100, Guy King wrote:

The message
from MM contains these words:

I believe I am right in saying that the Dulux paint matching service
only matches to the closest Dulux colour.

As far as I know they match to the closest their machine is capable of
dispensing the tints to.

If you take a piece of previously painted wallpaper to the machine and ask the
operator for a match that will get you a match to the "dried" paint but the
newly mixed paint will dry to a different shade which is what the original
paint will have done as well so the difference will ne noticeable .Am I right in
thinking this ..?


Stuart

MM wrote:
I don't want to have to repaint an entire wall because of one or two
hairline cracks.

I believe I am right in saying that the Dulux paint matching service
only matches to the closest Dulux colour.

How hard is it to tint a colour to get an exact match? Or a match as
near as dammit so that only close inspection would reveal a
difference.

The colour is currently building industry standard magnolia, matt
emulsion.

MM

In my experience, you will spend a week trying to find an exact match, do
umpteen runs to the paint outlet, buy several different colours, and then
end up painting the full wall anyway, which is what I'd advise you to do
first, it can't take longer than a couple of hours and that includes
sheeting up and cleaning brushes etc.

And FWIW, there is no 'standard' magnolia paint, Dulux, Leyland, Crown,
Jhonstones and at least a hundred other paint manufacturers all make
magnolia, but there's not two the same.

Stuart wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:14:09 +0100, Guy King wrote:


The message

from MM contains these words:

I believe I am right in saying that the Dulux paint matching service
only matches to the closest Dulux colour.

As far as I know they match to the closest their machine is capable of
dispensing the tints to.


If you take a piece of previously painted wallpaper to the machine and ask the
operator for a match that will get you a match to the "dried" paint but the
newly mixed paint will dry to a different shade which is what the original
paint will have done as well so the difference will ne noticeable .Am I right in
thinking this ..?

No.

I work at a school and have to find matching paint for the old painted
walls. The only time I failed with Dulux, was when I got a sample pot
that was in Mat and the wall was in Silk.
The matching is very good, normally.

Dave

The message
from Stuart contains these words:

If you take a piece of previously painted wallpaper to the machine and
ask the
operator for a match that will get you a match to the "dried" paint but the
newly mixed paint will dry to a different shade which is what the original
paint will have done as well so the difference will ne noticeable .Am
I right in
thinking this ..?

As far as I know they match the colour of the paint as it will look when
it's dried. Or try to.

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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:48:20 GMT, "Phil L"
wrote:

MM wrote:
I don't want to have to repaint an entire wall because of one or two
hairline cracks.

I believe I am right in saying that the Dulux paint matching service
only matches to the closest Dulux colour.

How hard is it to tint a colour to get an exact match? Or a match as
near as dammit so that only close inspection would reveal a
difference.

The colour is currently building industry standard magnolia, matt
emulsion.

MM

In my experience, you will spend a week trying to find an exact match, do
umpteen runs to the paint outlet, buy several different colours, and then
end up painting the full wall anyway, which is what I'd advise you to do
first, it can't take longer than a couple of hours and that includes
sheeting up and cleaning brushes etc.

But I'd also need scaffolding to reach into the corner of the
stairwell. The height is about seven metres from the bottom stair
tread.

MM

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:48:20 GMT, "Phil L"
wrote:


And FWIW, there is no 'standard' magnolia paint, Dulux, Leyland, Crown,
Jhonstones and at least a hundred other paint manufacturers all make
magnolia, but there's not two the same.


Magnolia is one of the British Standard Insitute range of standard
colours. It's not a wide range and most of the colours are pretty
awful; I think the palette must have been determined in the 1950s or
possibly even earlier. This is the pallette that determines what black
and white are, and magnolia. The idea is that if a BS colour is
specified it doesn't matter who makes it; of course it needs to be
specified by number as the different manufacturers give them different
names, sometimes. As I said previously, the BS number that will give
you magnolia, from anyone, is 08B15. See a colour chart at:
www.garagedoors-sw.co.uk/colour_chart_bs.doc

"Peter Johnson" wrote in message
...
snip

Magnolia is one of the British Standard Insitute range of standard
colours. It's not a wide range and most of the colours are pretty
awful; I think the palette must have been determined in the 1950s
or
possibly even earlier. This is the pallette that determines what
black
and white are, and magnolia. The idea is that if a BS colour is
specified it doesn't matter who makes it; of course it needs to be
specified by number as the different manufacturers give them
different
names, sometimes. As I said previously, the BS number that will
give
you magnolia, from anyone, is 08B15. See a colour chart at:
www.garagedoors-sw.co.uk/colour_chart_bs.doc


Yes, but it is an accepted fact that batches can and do differ, this
is before any aging that has taken place.

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:07:26 +0100, "Jerry"
wrote:


Yes, but it is an accepted fact that batches can and do differ, this
is before any aging that has taken place.

That wasn't my experience during three years of selling paint and we
shipped an awful lot of magnolia in particular. (Occasionally there
would be a problem with in-store mixes, not because of any inherent
problem with the system, but because the operator used the wrong base.
And having several colours with the same name in the database; that
didn't help either. )

"Peter Johnson" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:07:26 +0100, "Jerry"

wrote:


Yes, but it is an accepted fact that batches can and do differ,
this
is before any aging that has taken place.

That wasn't my experience during three years of selling paint and
we
shipped an awful lot of magnolia in particular.

Well perhaps the Dulux sales director who I knew didn't really know
anything about the products...

Jerry wrote:
Well perhaps the Dulux sales director who I knew didn't really know
anything about the products...

Sales? Director? Product knowledge?

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"Chris Hodges" wrote in message
...
Jerry wrote:
Well perhaps the Dulux sales director who I knew didn't really
know
anything about the products...

Sales? Director? Product knowledge?


Well as I said, it is always possible that the people who run the
business know nothing about the products, but then perhaps those
people who are merely 'end users' don't know as much as they think
they know - take your pick!

In message , MM
writes
I don't want to have to repaint an entire wall because of one or two
hairline cracks.

I believe I am right in saying that the Dulux paint matching service
only matches to the closest Dulux colour.

How hard is it to tint a colour to get an exact match? Or a match as
near as dammit so that only close inspection would reveal a
difference.

The colour is currently building industry standard magnolia, matt
emulsion.

In the past I've matched colours by cleaning the wall and matching to
the closest colour on the "mix your own colour" sample cards, if the
colour's slightly out you can feather then new paint into the old over a
few inches. If you are able to paint up to internal or external corners
you can get away with murder in colour difference. Having said all that
I've just done a repair on some magnolia walls of unknown paint source
using a can of new magnolia of the same sheen and it really was all but
unnoticeable.


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