Has anyone seen these for sale anywhere in the UK:
http://heinc.com/kahnetics/squeezebottles.html ?

Good for refilling inkjet cartridges, etc.

Thanks,

Al D

"Al Deveron" wrote in message
...

Has anyone seen these for sale anywhere in the UK:
http://heinc.com/kahnetics/squeezebottles.html ?

Good for refilling inkjet cartridges, etc.

How do you accurately measure the ink volume using one of those? Besides
which blunt needles are not good for inserting into the cartridge - you need
at least a partial facet on the tip.

Colin Bignell

In message , Al Deveron
writes

Has anyone seen these for sale anywhere in the UK:
http://heinc.com/kahnetics/squeezebottles.html ?

Good for refilling inkjet cartridges, etc.

Well, IIRC, RS sell such a beast

--
geoff

In article ,
Al Deveron wrote:
Has anyone seen these for sale anywhere in the UK:
http://heinc.com/kahnetics/squeezebottles.html ?

Good for refilling inkjet cartridges, etc.

You get them with inkjet refilling kits. ;-)

I use the old ones as oil droppers.

--
*I got a sweater for Christmas. I really wanted a screamer or a moaner*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Al Deveron wrote:
Has anyone seen these for sale anywhere in the UK:
http://heinc.com/kahnetics/squeezebottles.html ?

Good for refilling inkjet cartridges, etc.

Thanks,

Al D

most inkjet refill kits

NT

Has anyone seen these for sale anywhere in the UK:
http://heinc.com/kahnetics/squeezebottles.html ?

Good for refilling inkjet cartridges, etc.

Thanks,

Al D

You can always buy a syringe at your local chemist. I think I paid 20p for
one a couple of years ago.

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:19:49 GMT, raden wrote:

Well, IIRC, RS sell such a beast

Thanks... but RS? Who is that?

Al D

Al Deveron wrote:
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:19:49 GMT, raden wrote:

Well, IIRC, RS sell such a beast

Thanks... but RS? Who is that?

Radio Spares, as was.
http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/home.do?cacheID=ukie&returningUser=N

Usually more expensive than others and don't like small orders
(excessive P&P).

MBQ

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:53:07 +0100, "Pinot Grigio" someone@somewhere
wrote:

You can always buy a syringe at your local chemist. I think I paid 20p for
one a couple of years ago.

That is true, but then you have to wash out the syringe each time you
use it. My plan is to have 4 of the aforementioned squeeze bottles
filled with each colour of ink. No cleaning involved.

Al D

wrote:
Al Deveron wrote:
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:19:49 GMT, raden wrote:

Well, IIRC, RS sell such a beast

Thanks... but RS? Who is that?

Radio Spares, as was.
http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/home.do?cacheID=ukie&returningUser=N

Usually more expensive than others and don't like small orders
(excessive P&P).

MBQ

Oops, perhaps just http://rswww.com would be better.

Al Deveron wrote:
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:53:07 +0100, "Pinot Grigio" someone@somewhere
wrote:

You can always buy a syringe at your local chemist. I think I paid 20p for
one a couple of years ago.

That is true, but then you have to wash out the syringe each time you
use it. My plan is to have 4 of the aforementioned squeeze bottles
filled with each colour of ink. No cleaning involved.


Errr, use 4 syringes? One for each colour.

MBQ

On 16 Aug 2006 04:30:59 -0700, wrote:

Oops, perhaps just http://rswww.com would be better.

Thank you. Unfortunately the only similiar product that I could find
at their site was a discontinued item. And it didn't have the syringe
needle projecting from the cap.

Al D

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:32:12 +0100, "nightjar" nightjar@insert my
surname here.uk.com wrote:

http://heinc.com/kahnetics/squeezebottles.html ?

Good for refilling inkjet cartridges, etc.

How do you accurately measure the ink volume using one of those?

I don't, is the quick answer.

Besides
which blunt needles are not good for inserting into the cartridge - you need
at least a partial facet on the tip.

Not in my case.

Al D

On 16 Aug 2006 04:32:36 -0700, wrote:

Errr, use 4 syringes? One for each colour.

Yes; that is my alternative (second choice) method. Slight risk of
ink residues drying inside the syringe, though...

Al D

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:46:31 +0100, Al Deveron
wrote:

Yes; that is my alternative (second choice) method. Slight risk of
ink residues drying inside the syringe, though...

PS - and, most syringes don't hold as much ink as, say, a 125ml poly
bottle. I am trying to minimise the fiddly stuff because I am
constantly having to refill, doing large print runs (2,000 sheets
etc.)

Al D

On 16 Aug 2006 00:56:57 -0700, wrote:

most inkjet refill kits

Really? I have never seen that type of bottle, with a sysringe needle
projecting from the cap, in a refill kit. But then, admmittedly, I
don't buy refill kits...

Al D

Al Deveron wrote:
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:46:31 +0100, Al Deveron
wrote:

Yes; that is my alternative (second choice) method. Slight risk of
ink residues drying inside the syringe, though...

PS - and, most syringes don't hold as much ink as, say, a 125ml poly
bottle. I am trying to minimise the fiddly stuff because I am
constantly having to refill, doing large print runs (2,000 sheets
etc.)

I think you need a different printer technology. Doesn't it cost a
fortune to feed an ink jet for that kind of volume. How do you find the
quality of refill ink as opposed to branded?

MBQ

On 16 Aug 2006 05:16:43 -0700, wrote:

I think you need a different printer technology.

There is nothing more suited to my needs, that I'm aware of.

Doesn't it cost a fortune to feed an ink jet for that kind of volume.

Not really, when you buy in bulk quantities from my suppliers. It's
cheaper tha colour laser printing, for example.

How do you find the
quality of refill ink as opposed to branded?

Absolutely fine, thanks.

Al D

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:45:21 +0100, Owain
wrote:

Err... colour laser?

It is my impression that colour laser printing costs more, when you
factor in the cost of the printer as well as the toner and drum
replacements. I buy inkjet ink in bulk quantities.

Or if this is 2000 copies of the same original, offset-litho starts
getting affordable for those quanitities.

I did look into all this a few years back, and find I am still using
my refillable inkjet printer, so I guess I found it to be cheaper
an/or more convenient. It is slow, but that doesn't bother me.

Al D

"Al Deveron" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:32:12 +0100, "nightjar" nightjar@insert my
surname here.uk.com wrote:

http://heinc.com/kahnetics/squeezebottles.html ?

Good for refilling inkjet cartridges, etc.

How do you accurately measure the ink volume using one of those?

I don't, is the quick answer.

You must like being covered in ink. Some cartridges only take a couple of
millilitres of ink.

Besides
which blunt needles are not good for inserting into the cartridge - you
need
at least a partial facet on the tip.

Not in my case.

Being in the business of cartridge supply, we do quite a few refills every
day and our experience is that the ideal tool for inserting into sponges is
a proper hypodermic needle, which we buy in bulk. However, the refill kit
manufacturers shy away from them, because of liability issues in the USA.
The result was a trial with blunt needles, which proved to be a serious
error and they now use half-pointed ones, which seem to do the trick.

Colin Bignell

Al Deveron wrote:
On 16 Aug 2006 00:56:57 -0700, wrote:

most inkjet refill kits

Really? I have never seen that type of bottle, with a sysringe needle
projecting from the cap, in a refill kit. But then, admmittedly, I
don't buy refill kits...

Al D

I think theyre Kores brand kits. Needles are blunt, which Ive nt found
any problem.


NT

In message , Al Deveron
writes
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:19:49 GMT, raden wrote:

Well, IIRC, RS sell such a beast

Thanks... but RS? Who is that?

They're in the FAQ

They are also the first hit if you type "RS" into google

--
geoff

In message , Al Deveron
writes
On 16 Aug 2006 04:30:59 -0700, wrote:

Oops, perhaps just http://rswww.com would be better.

Thank you. Unfortunately the only similiar product that I could find
at their site was a discontinued item. And it didn't have the syringe
needle projecting from the cap.

Well a syringe can be found at

http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/se...s=sObs&name=Si
teStandard&No=0&N=0&Ntk=I18NAll&Ntt=514-717&Nty=1&D=514-717&callingPage=/
@ @@@&BV_Engin
eID=ccckaddiiejdljjcefeceefdffhdgmo.0&cacheID=ukne tscape&Nr=avl:uk

I bought a LDPE bottle with a syringe needle last year - go hunt




--
geoff

In message , Al Deveron
writes
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:46:31 +0100, Al Deveron
wrote:

Yes; that is my alternative (second choice) method. Slight risk of
ink residues drying inside the syringe, though...

PS - and, most syringes don't hold as much ink as, say, a 125ml poly
bottle. I am trying to minimise the fiddly stuff because I am
constantly having to refill, doing large print runs (2,000 sheets
etc.)

Get a a laser printer then

Printer cartridges don't last forever either

--
geoff

"Al Deveron" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:45:21 +0100, Owain
wrote:

Err... colour laser?

It is my impression that colour laser printing costs more, when you
factor in the cost of the printer as well as the toner and drum
replacements. I buy inkjet ink in bulk quantities.

Or if this is 2000 copies of the same original, offset-litho starts
getting affordable for those quanitities.

I did look into all this a few years back, and find I am still using
my refillable inkjet printer, so I guess I found it to be cheaper
an/or more convenient. It is slow, but that doesn't bother me.

Al D


Why not use a bulk feed system ?

Regards Jeff

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:11:40 +0100, "nightjar" nightjar@insert my
surname here.uk.com wrote:

You must like being covered in ink. Some cartridges only take a couple of
millilitres of ink.

Besides
which blunt needles are not good for inserting into the cartridge - you
need
at least a partial facet on the tip.

Not in my case.

Being in the business of cartridge supply, we do quite a few refills every
day and our experience is that the ideal tool for inserting into sponges is
a proper hypodermic needle, which we buy in bulk. However, the refill kit
manufacturers shy away from them, because of liability issues in the USA.
The result was a trial with blunt needles, which proved to be a serious
error and they now use half-pointed ones, which seem to do the trick.

Colin Bignell

Well, Colin... considering all the wrong assumptions you have jumped
to about the nature of my printer and its cartridges, I can only say
I'm glad I'm not one of your company's customers! :-]

Al D

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:03:06 +0100, "Jeff"
wrote:

I did look into all this a few years back, and find I am still using
my refillable inkjet printer, so I guess I found it to be cheaper
an/or more convenient. It is slow, but that doesn't bother me.

Al D


Why not use a bulk feed system ?

Regards Jeff

I'm not sure what kind of thing you mean, but will do a search for
them. Thank you.

Al D

On 16 Aug 2006 12:55:05 -0700, wrote:

Really? I have never seen that type of bottle, with a sysringe needle
projecting from the cap, in a refill kit. But then, admmittedly, I
don't buy refill kits...

Al D

I think theyre Kores brand kits. Needles are blunt, which Ive nt found
any problem.

Thank you. Kores appear to offer a few different kits. I guess I'll
have to phone a few suppliers and see if they'll clarify what exactly
is included in the kits they supply. It's difficult to determine from
the www which kit has the bottles with the needles projecting from the
caps, or if the bottles are sufficiently large. (The smallest bottles
that would be really helpful would be about 60ml, but twice that size
would be much better).

Regards,
Al D

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:18:14 GMT, raden wrote:

I bought a LDPE bottle with a syringe needle last year - go hunt

I hunted but didn't find ...not via the www, from a UK supplier, that
is. If I don't get lucky soon, I'll probably ahave a go at making my
own syringe-needle bottle caps out of the caps on the ink bottles I
have.

In which case, all I need now, is a small number of blunt wide-bore
syringe needles, like the ones some of the refill-ink companies supply
with their syringes. Hopefully I can find someone who is willing to
sell me three needles only! Anyone help with that one?

Thanks...

Al D

In message , Al Deveron
writes
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:18:14 GMT, raden wrote:

I bought a LDPE bottle with a syringe needle last year - go hunt

I hunted but didn't find ...not via the www, from a UK supplier, that
is. If I don't get lucky soon, I'll probably ahave a go at making my
own syringe-needle bottle caps out of the caps on the ink bottles I
have.

In which case, all I need now, is a small number of blunt wide-bore
syringe needles, like the ones some of the refill-ink companies supply
with their syringes. Hopefully I can find someone who is willing to
sell me three needles only! Anyone help with that one?

You can find them in the RS link I posted yesterday - the pink ones

--
geoff

"Al Deveron" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:03:06 +0100, "Jeff"
wrote:

I did look into all this a few years back, and find I am still using
my refillable inkjet printer, so I guess I found it to be cheaper
an/or more convenient. It is slow, but that doesn't bother me.

Al D


Why not use a bulk feed system ?

Regards Jeff

I'm not sure what kind of thing you mean, but will do a search for
them. Thank you.

Al D

example :-

http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=1171


Regards Jeff

"Al Deveron" wrote in message
...
....
Well, Colin... considering all the wrong assumptions you have jumped
to about the nature of my printer and its cartridges, I can only say
I'm glad I'm not one of your company's customers! :-]

My assumption, not having read your other replies when I posted, was that
anyone with your requirements would have long since installed a bulk feed
system.

Colin Bignell

Al Deveron wrote:
On 16 Aug 2006 12:55:05 -0700, wrote:

Really? I have never seen that type of bottle, with a sysringe needle
projecting from the cap, in a refill kit. But then, admmittedly, I
don't buy refill kits...

I think theyre Kores brand kits. Needles are blunt, which Ive nt found
any problem.

Thank you. Kores appear to offer a few different kits. I guess I'll
have to phone a few suppliers and see if they'll clarify what exactly
is included in the kits they supply. It's difficult to determine from
the www which kit has the bottles with the needles projecting from the
caps, or if the bottles are sufficiently large. (The smallest bottles
that would be really helpful would be about 60ml, but twice that size
would be much better).

Regards,
Al D

The ones I had were well below 60ml I'm afraid. They were also old
stock, the kits may have changed since.


NT