Hi There,

My daughter managed to lose a house key today, so I need to change the front
door lock as a precaution.

The door itself is a UPVC job with a "MILA" branded lock.

I've only ever seen old fashioned Legge/Yale type locks in the Sheds so I
guess first stop needs to be a reputable locksmith.

Is this an easy job (I guess it must be)?

Any advance warnings appreciated. Pix he

www.hernibles.com/lock

David

On Mon, 22 May 2006 19:34:22 +0100, "Vortex"
wrote:

Hi There,

My daughter managed to lose a house key today, so I need to change the front
door lock as a precaution.

The door itself is a UPVC job with a "MILA" branded lock.

I've only ever seen old fashioned Legge/Yale type locks in the Sheds so I
guess first stop needs to be a reputable locksmith.

Is this an easy job (I guess it must be)?

Any advance warnings appreciated. Pix he

www.hernibles.com/lock


AFAICS it's a Euro Cylinder lock.

You need only change the cylinder. Some of the sheds do them (beware
they come in different lengths, 2 dimensions to measure, see below).

It is retained by a single screw which screws in from the face of the
door.

http://www.era-security.com/H&A_EURO_CYLINDER.htm

Plenty of suppliers on the internet.

DG

Vortex wrote:
Hi There,

My daughter managed to lose a house key today, so I need to change the front
door lock as a precaution.

The door itself is a UPVC job with a "MILA" branded lock.

I've only ever seen old fashioned Legge/Yale type locks in the Sheds so I
guess first stop needs to be a reputable locksmith.

Is this an easy job (I guess it must be)?

Any advance warnings appreciated. Pix he


Dead easy to work on, and if you need any non-standard bits you can get
them from http://www.mila.co.uk/ (phone order).


--
Grunff

On Mon, 22 May 2006 19:34:22 +0100, "Vortex"
wrote:

|Hi There,
|
|My daughter managed to lose a house key today, so I need to change the front
|door lock as a precaution.
|
|The door itself is a UPVC job with a "MILA" branded lock.
|
|I've only ever seen old fashioned Legge/Yale type locks in the Sheds so I
|guess first stop needs to be a reputable locksmith.
|
|Is this an easy job (I guess it must be)?
|
|Any advance warnings appreciated. Pix he
|
|www.hernibles.com/lock

Mine are the same and the supplier (Coral) offered me a new barrel from
stock, must take them up on it. They said remove one bolt to get it out.
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method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a
newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These
will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies.

AFAICS it's a Euro Cylinder lock.

You need only change the cylinder. Some of the sheds do them (beware
they come in different lengths, 2 dimensions to measure, see below).

It is retained by a single screw which screws in from the face of the
door.

http://www.era-security.com/H&A_EURO_CYLINDER.htm

Plenty of suppliers on the internet.

DG

I removed the said screw and indeed the barrel does come loose but won't
pull right out, even with the handles removed.

Fading light, hunger and rain dictate I'll have another go tomorrow.


david

"Vortex" wrote in message
...



AFAICS it's a Euro Cylinder lock.

You need only change the cylinder. Some of the sheds do them (beware
they come in different lengths, 2 dimensions to measure, see below).

It is retained by a single screw which screws in from the face of the
door.

http://www.era-security.com/H&A_EURO_CYLINDER.htm

Plenty of suppliers on the internet.

DG

I removed the said screw and indeed the barrel does come loose but won't
pull right out, even with the handles removed.

Fading light, hunger and rain dictate I'll have another go tomorrow.

Most of them require the key to be inserted and turned slightly to release
them...
You shouldn't need to take the handles off!

Sparks...

On Mon, 22 May 2006 20:27:07 +0100, "Vortex"
wrote:




AFAICS it's a Euro Cylinder lock.

You need only change the cylinder. Some of the sheds do them (beware
they come in different lengths, 2 dimensions to measure, see below).

It is retained by a single screw which screws in from the face of the
door.

http://www.era-security.com/H&A_EURO_CYLINDER.htm

Plenty of suppliers on the internet.

DG

I removed the said screw and indeed the barrel does come loose but won't
pull right out, even with the handles removed.

Fiddle it about with the key in positions various. :-)


Fading light, hunger and rain dictate I'll have another go tomorrow.


DG

Vortex wrote:
Hi There,

My daughter managed to lose a house key today, so I need to change the front
door lock as a precaution.

The door itself is a UPVC job with a "MILA" branded lock.

I've only ever seen old fashioned Legge/Yale type locks in the Sheds so I
guess first stop needs to be a reputable locksmith.

Is this an easy job (I guess it must be)?

Any advance warnings appreciated. Pix he

www.hernibles.com/lock

David

Eurolock barrels are easy to replace. The only gotcha is they come in
differing lengths at each end, so you need to measure the 2 lengths
either side of the middle bit before setting off. Also there are 2
different ways of describing the lengths, and they use the same
phraseology, so again you need to check what youre getting by
measuring. Once youve got the right one its a 2 minute job.

A 6 pin antidrill version, £17 instead of £6, reduces some house
insurance policy premiums, and may be required to comply and thus keep
valid some policies.


NT

wrote in message
ups.com...
Vortex wrote:
Hi There,

My daughter managed to lose a house key today, so I need to change the
front
door lock as a precaution.

The door itself is a UPVC job with a "MILA" branded lock.

I've only ever seen old fashioned Legge/Yale type locks in the Sheds so I
guess first stop needs to be a reputable locksmith.

Is this an easy job (I guess it must be)?

Any advance warnings appreciated. Pix he

www.hernibles.com/lock

David

Eurolock barrels are easy to replace. The only gotcha is they come in
differing lengths at each end, so you need to measure the 2 lengths
either side of the middle bit before setting off. Also there are 2
different ways of describing the lengths, and they use the same
phraseology, so again you need to check what youre getting by
measuring. Once youve got the right one its a 2 minute job.

A 6 pin antidrill version, £17 instead of £6, reduces some house
insurance policy premiums, and may be required to comply and thus keep
valid some policies.


NT

+++++++

Thanks,

Well I extracted the lock and have taken a couple of pix to show the
locksmith.

http://home.btconnect.com/vortex/lock/ (BTW This JAlbum software I recently
discovered is fantastic)

I agree I will get a "premium" antidrill barrel. Am in the process of
renewing home insurance with a new company (getting quotes at the minute) as
I think I am being shafted by Zurich.

David

The message
from "Vortex" contains these words:

I removed the said screw and indeed the barrel does come loose but won't
pull right out, even with the handles removed.

You need to turn the key to about 30 degrees one way or the other to
align the operating tab with the slot.

--
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Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Vortex wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
Vortex wrote:
Hi There,

My daughter managed to lose a house key today, so I need to change the
front
door lock as a precaution.

The door itself is a UPVC job with a "MILA" branded lock.

I've only ever seen old fashioned Legge/Yale type locks in the Sheds so I
guess first stop needs to be a reputable locksmith.

Is this an easy job (I guess it must be)?

Any advance warnings appreciated. Pix he

www.hernibles.com/lock

David

Eurolock barrels are easy to replace. The only gotcha is they come in
differing lengths at each end, so you need to measure the 2 lengths
either side of the middle bit before setting off. Also there are 2
different ways of describing the lengths, and they use the same
phraseology, so again you need to check what youre getting by
measuring. Once youve got the right one its a 2 minute job.

A 6 pin antidrill version, £17 instead of £6, reduces some house
insurance policy premiums, and may be required to comply and thus keep
valid some policies.


NT

+++++++

Thanks,

Well I extracted the lock and have taken a couple of pix to show the
locksmith.

Why are you using a locksmith when you have clearly managed to get the
Euro Cylinder out. Just buy a new one and put it in. Plenty of places
online you can get them.

"Richard Conway" wrote in message
...
Vortex wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
Vortex wrote:
Hi There,

My daughter managed to lose a house key today, so I need to change the
front
door lock as a precaution.

The door itself is a UPVC job with a "MILA" branded lock.

I've only ever seen old fashioned Legge/Yale type locks in the Sheds so
I
guess first stop needs to be a reputable locksmith.

Is this an easy job (I guess it must be)?

Any advance warnings appreciated. Pix he

www.hernibles.com/lock

David

Eurolock barrels are easy to replace. The only gotcha is they come in
differing lengths at each end, so you need to measure the 2 lengths
either side of the middle bit before setting off. Also there are 2
different ways of describing the lengths, and they use the same
phraseology, so again you need to check what youre getting by
measuring. Once youve got the right one its a 2 minute job.

A 6 pin antidrill version, £17 instead of £6, reduces some house
insurance policy premiums, and may be required to comply and thus keep
valid some policies.


NT

+++++++

Thanks,

Well I extracted the lock and have taken a couple of pix to show the
locksmith.

Why are you using a locksmith when you have clearly managed to get the
Euro Cylinder out. Just buy a new one and put it in. Plenty of places
online you can get them.

The job is done, locksmith is the only local place with stock AND ability to
make extra keys.

I wanted one immediately because daughter lost her key with address
information too. I have probably paid a tenner more than I could have done
online but hey-ho.......I'm relaxed about it.

D

in article , vortex2 at
wrote on 23/5/06 11:21:

The job is done, locksmith is the only local place with stock AND ability to
make extra keys.

I wanted one immediately because daughter lost her key with address
information too. I have probably paid a tenner more than I could have done
online but hey-ho.......I'm relaxed about it.

D

The cylinder you took out was a 40/50 (lengths in mm to the middle of the
cylinder form each side), but from the wear/dirt marks, it looks like it was
sticking out 5mm or so from the front of the handle, and a bit more on the
inside (not so important).

Did the locksmith mention anything about this, and does the new one fit
flush to the front of the handle? You could fit a 35/45 cylinder, I would
have thought. This reduces the ease of 'snapping' (breaking cylinder with a
wrench)- though it can still be done if the handles are smashed/levered off
first.

Ben

in article , vortex2 at
wrote on 23/5/06 14:48:


"Ben Micklem" wrote in message
...
snip
The cylinder you took out was a 40/50 (lengths in mm to the middle of the
cylinder form each side), but from the wear/dirt marks, it looks like it
was
sticking out 5mm or so from the front of the handle, and a bit more on the
inside (not so important).

Did the locksmith mention anything about this, and does the new one fit
flush to the front of the handle? You could fit a 35/45 cylinder, I would
have thought. This reduces the ease of 'snapping' (breaking cylinder with
snip

Yes I did get a shorter one on his recommendation....but also because he did
not even have a 40/50 in stock!

Good to hear it, you're much better off with the shorter one.

Ben

"Ben Micklem" wrote in message
...
in article , vortex2 at
wrote on 23/5/06 11:21:

The job is done, locksmith is the only local place with stock AND ability
to
make extra keys.

I wanted one immediately because daughter lost her key with address
information too. I have probably paid a tenner more than I could have
done
online but hey-ho.......I'm relaxed about it.

D

The cylinder you took out was a 40/50 (lengths in mm to the middle of the
cylinder form each side), but from the wear/dirt marks, it looks like it
was
sticking out 5mm or so from the front of the handle, and a bit more on the
inside (not so important).

Did the locksmith mention anything about this, and does the new one fit
flush to the front of the handle? You could fit a 35/45 cylinder, I would
have thought. This reduces the ease of 'snapping' (breaking cylinder with
a
wrench)- though it can still be done if the handles are smashed/levered
off
first.

Ben


Yes I did get a shorter one on his recommendation....but also because he did
not even have a 40/50 in stock!

D