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Firstly Happy New Year to all...

Been thinking about changing our front door for a while.

Basically we have two front doors, in the sense that we have a porch
"extension" and then the original front door. I want to change the inner
original door. The current inner door is a pretty standard "hardwood" one.

I am thinking of a uPVC one mainly to give a beeter draft proof seal.

Now I know that I need BCO / building regs approval and a BCO visit (inc
the cost of this :-( )to change windows, but do I need this if I change
a door.

If I were to change the door for another hardwood one, I would have
guessed I do not need a BCO visit, but what about uPVC ?

Anybody in the know about the current regs

Cheers

DeeBee
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:34:11 GMT, a particular chimpanzee named DeeBee
randomly hit the keyboard and produced:

Basically we have two front doors, in the sense that we have a porch
"extension" and then the original front door. I want to change the inner
original door. The current inner door is a pretty standard "hardwood" one.


Now I know that I need BCO / building regs approval and a BCO visit (inc
the cost of this :-( )to change windows, but do I need this if I change
a door.


If the 'porch' is an exempt porch (ie, an 'unheated' extension to the
front of the building), and the 'inner' door has or will have more
than 50% of the door glazed, then yes, a Building Regulations
application will be required as per replacement windows if the company
fitting it isn't FENSA-registered. OTOH, how likely is it ever to
come to light, and not be able to be regularised if it does?
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:04:28 +0000, Hugo Nebula abuse@localhost
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:34:11 GMT, a particular chimpanzee named DeeBee
randomly hit the keyboard and produced:

Basically we have two front doors, in the sense that we have a porch
"extension" and then the original front door. I want to change the inner
original door. The current inner door is a pretty standard "hardwood" one.


Now I know that I need BCO / building regs approval and a BCO visit (inc
the cost of this :-( )to change windows, but do I need this if I change
a door.


If the 'porch' is an exempt porch (ie, an 'unheated' extension to the
front of the building), and the 'inner' door has or will have more
than 50% of the door glazed, then yes, a Building Regulations
application will be required as per replacement windows if the company
fitting it isn't FENSA-registered. OTOH, how likely is it ever to
come to light, and not be able to be regularised if it does?



Plus, how many BCOs want to come out to change front doors anyway?

I'm sure most are plenty busy enough with the day job ;-)


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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:04:28 +0000, Hugo Nebula wrote:

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:34:11 GMT, a particular chimpanzee named DeeBee
randomly hit the keyboard and produced:

Basically we have two front doors, in the sense that we have a porch
"extension" and then the original front door. I want to change the inner
original door. The current inner door is a pretty standard "hardwood" one.


Now I know that I need BCO / building regs approval and a BCO visit (inc
the cost of this :-( )to change windows, but do I need this if I change
a door.


If the 'porch' is an exempt porch (ie, an 'unheated' extension to the
front of the building), and the 'inner' door has or will have more
than 50% of the door glazed, then yes, a Building Regulations
application will be required as per replacement windows if the company
fitting it isn't FENSA-registered. OTOH, how likely is it ever to
come to light, and not be able to be regularised if it does?


And that's the _game keeper_ talking.


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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:47:21 +0000, a particular chimpanzee named Ed
Sirett randomly hit the keyboard and
produced:

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:04:28 +0000, Hugo Nebula wrote:

OTOH, how likely is it ever to
come to light, and not be able to be regularised if it does?


And that's the _game keeper_ talking.


In a completely un-official (and hopefully untraceable) capacity.
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Pardon my asking, but having read this am I correct in saying that you have
to notify the council if you're changing an outside door or window now?

I wasn't aware of this, how long has this been the case?


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Dark Angel wrote:
Pardon my asking, but having read this am I correct in saying that you have
to notify the council if you're changing an outside door or window now?

I wasn't aware of this, how long has this been the case?


Certainly for windows you do, however if the company
fitting it is FENSA-registered, you do not need to, thats how I read
Hugo Nebula's post - am I correct in this assumtion Hugo?

The changes to the building regs came in with Part L I think a few years
ago. SAe situation for electrical wiring with the now famous Part P
introduced this time last yera !

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DeeBee wrote:

Basically we have two front doors, in the sense that we have a porch
"extension" and then the original front door. I want to change the inner
original door. The current inner door is a pretty standard "hardwood" one.

I am thinking of a uPVC one mainly to give a beeter draft proof seal.


It would be fair to say this sounds like a fairly unclever move, and in
many cases will reduce house value. Suggest fitting proper
draughtproofing to your quality hardwood door. And if its painted, use
linseed based paint in future.

NT

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