Hi All

With the recent discussion about power tools, I read an interesting review
of lightweight routers today in good woodworking magazine.

The Trend T3 was the recommended product at £41, but the Ferm FBF-6E was
quoted as being amazing value at £25.

The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar -
absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt
that they are made in the same factory.

Why does one sell for 40% more than the other? Brand name.

Dave

david lang wrote:
Hi All

With the recent discussion about power tools, I read an interesting
review of lightweight routers today in good woodworking magazine.

The Trend T3 was the recommended product at £41, but the Ferm FBF-6E
was quoted as being amazing value at £25.

The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not
similar - absolutely identical in appearance, specification,
everything. No doubt that they are made in the same factory.

Why does one sell for 40% more than the other? Brand name.

Dave

If your thinking of buying one of either routers have a good think, because
550W is really only suitable for very light
work and the B&D version is 850W and is identical and probably in the same
class price as the FERM?
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The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
david lang wrote:
The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not
similar - absolutely identical in appearance, specification,
everything. No doubt that they are made in the same factory.

Why does one sell for 40% more than the other? Brand name.

If your thinking of buying one of either routers have a good think, because
550W is really only suitable for very light work

That's a whoosh!, then.

In article ,
david lang wrote:
The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar -
absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt
that they are made in the same factory.

It's possible one make uses tighter production tolerances. Ie, checked to
be fully up to spec. The other - sort of seconds.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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david lang wrote:
Hi All

With the recent discussion about power tools, I read an interesting review
of lightweight routers today in good woodworking magazine.

The Trend T3 was the recommended product at £41, but the Ferm FBF-6E was
quoted as being amazing value at £25.

The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar -
absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt
that they are made in the same factory.

Why does one sell for 40% more than the other? Brand name.

Dave

Brand name always charges a premium whatever anyone says. Just look at
the DeWalt range of toolbelts and workbags. I don't doubt it may be
good quality but it's still sold at a premium simply cos of the name on
it.

In article ,
"david lang" writes:
Hi All

With the recent discussion about power tools, I read an interesting review
of lightweight routers today in good woodworking magazine.

The Trend T3 was the recommended product at £41, but the Ferm FBF-6E was
quoted as being amazing value at £25.

The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar -
absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt
that they are made in the same factory.

Why does one sell for 40% more than the other? Brand name.

Products sell for what people will pay for them, which often
bears no resemblence to how much they cost to manufacture.

--
Andrew Gabriel

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
david lang wrote:
The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar -
absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt
that they are made in the same factory.

It's possible one make uses tighter production tolerances. Ie, checked to
be fully up to spec. The other - sort of seconds.

Aha, identical but different. Well done!

"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
...
Dave Plowman (News) through a haze of senile flatulence wrote:
david lang wrote:
The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar -
absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt
that they are made in the same factory.

It's possible one make uses tighter production tolerances. Ie, checked
to
be fully up to spec. The other - sort of seconds.

Aha, identical but different. Well done!

Chrsi, you will get used to the senility.

Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Chris Bacon" wrote
Aha, identical but different. Well done!

Chrsi, you will get used to the senility.

Thank you. Perhaps you will join me in a nice game of dominoes!

Products sell for what people will pay for them, which often
bears no resemblence to how much they cost to manufacture.


Or to what they are actually worth.....

Henry

In article ,
Chris Bacon wrote:
It's possible one make uses tighter production tolerances. Ie, checked to
be fully up to spec. The other - sort of seconds.

Aha, identical but different. Well done!

It's certainly the case with car tyres. Check out a new car with brand X
tyres and see if there are balancing weights. There won't be. Buy the same
brand afterwards and fit them to the same car and they'll need balancing.

Get the point?

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:

It's possible one make uses tighter production tolerances. Ie, checked to
be fully up to spec. The other - sort of seconds.

Aha, identical but different. Well done!

It's certainly the case with car tyres. Check out a new car with brand X
tyres and see if there are balancing weights. There won't be. Buy the same
brand afterwards and fit them to the same car and they'll need balancing.

Get the point?

What point. If two items are identical, they are the
same.

I'm afraid that your interesting (although pointless)
remark about new cars and wheel balance weights is
complete rubbish.

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:25:42 GMT, "david lang"
wrote:

Hi All

With the recent discussion about power tools, I read an interesting review
of lightweight routers today in good woodworking magazine.

The Trend T3 was the recommended product at £41, but the Ferm FBF-6E was
quoted as being amazing value at £25.

The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar -
absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt
that they are made in the same factory.

Why does one sell for 40% more than the other? Brand name.

Dave


I think that you could well be putting two and two together and
arriving at five.

The products could quite easily have the same electrical specs and
exterior appearance, but be made with different internal components
and to a different QA level.

We know that an 1800W PPPoo router has crappy motor performance, so
specs are highly questionable anyway.


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In article , says...


Products sell for what people will pay for them, which often
bears no resemblence to how much they cost to manufacture.


Or to what they are actually worth.....

Anything is worth as much as someone is prepared to pay for it. If you
have no use for something, or don't like it for some reason, then it
will be worth less *to you* than it is to someone who does have a use
for it or likes it a lot - value is subjective.

Andy Hall wrote:

The products could quite easily have the same electrical specs and
exterior appearance, but be made with different internal components
and to a different QA level.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck & quacks like a duck
................. it's a duck!!

Dave

In article ,
Chris Bacon wrote:
What point. If two items are identical, they are the
same.

But the items ain't identical. They have different badges if nothing else.
And unless you've done a full production engineering assessment of both
you can't say for sure they're otherwise identical.

I'm afraid that your interesting (although pointless)
remark about new cars and wheel balance weights is
complete rubbish.

It was just to illustrate the point that products which look identical may
not be.

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"david lang" wrote in message
...
Andy Hall wrote:

The products could quite easily have the same electrical specs and
exterior appearance, but be made with different internal components
and to a different QA level.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck & quacks like a duck
................ it's a duck!!

Or Dr Drivel.

Dave

david lang wrote:
With the recent discussion about power tools, I read an interesting review
of lightweight routers today in good woodworking magazine.

The Trend T3 was the recommended product at £41, but the Ferm FBF-6E was
quoted as being amazing value at £25.

The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar -
absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt
that they are made in the same factory.

Going back to this, various people have mentioned that they
may not be identical (the badges aren't, which I feel is
prevaricating). How do you/"Good Woodworking" know they are
identical?

Chris Bacon wrote:

Going back to this, various people have mentioned that they
may not be identical (the badges aren't, which I feel is
prevaricating). How do you/"Good Woodworking" know they are
identical?

Good Woodworking - who Trend regularly advertise with - are noteably
cautious. They only say that the baseplate will accept all theTrend guide
bushes and accessories.

Technical spec is identical. Speeds, plunge depth, wattage, weight etc.

However, there are good quality large colour photos of both machines. The
body moulding, switch, cable entry, knobs, depth turret, base, plunge
columns, collet, wing nuts - every single detail is identical.

If it looks like a duck ...........

Quack, quack........

Dave

"Dave P" wrote in message
...
"david lang" wrote in message
...
Andy Hall wrote:

The products could quite easily have the same electrical specs and
exterior appearance, but be made with different internal components
and to a different QA level.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck & quacks like a duck
................ it's a duck!!

Or Dr Drivel.

Oh you are full of wit. Durgh.....

On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:08:14 GMT, "david lang"
wrote:

Andy Hall wrote:

The products could quite easily have the same electrical specs and
exterior appearance, but be made with different internal components
and to a different QA level.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck & quacks like a duck
................ it's a duck!!

Dave


Unless it's a drake.

You have to check under the feathers......


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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:54:35 +0100, Doctor Drivel
wrote:

Oh you are full of wit. Durgh.....

I am sure Dr. Spooner would have described you as a shining wit.

John Schmitt

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