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With the recent discussion about power tools, I read an interesting review of lightweight routers today in good woodworking magazine. The Trend T3 was the recommended product at £41, but the Ferm FBF-6E was quoted as being amazing value at £25. The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar - absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt that they are made in the same factory. Why does one sell for 40% more than the other? Brand name. Dave |
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david lang wrote:
Hi All With the recent discussion about power tools, I read an interesting review of lightweight routers today in good woodworking magazine. The Trend T3 was the recommended product at £41, but the Ferm FBF-6E was quoted as being amazing value at £25. The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar - absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt that they are made in the same factory. Why does one sell for 40% more than the other? Brand name. Dave If your thinking of buying one of either routers have a good think, because 550W is really only suitable for very light work and the B&D version is 850W and is identical and probably in the same class price as the FERM? -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
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The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
david lang wrote: The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar - absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt that they are made in the same factory. Why does one sell for 40% more than the other? Brand name. If your thinking of buying one of either routers have a good think, because 550W is really only suitable for very light work That's a whoosh!, then. |
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david lang wrote: The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar - absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt that they are made in the same factory. It's possible one make uses tighter production tolerances. Ie, checked to be fully up to spec. The other - sort of seconds. -- *I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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david lang wrote: Hi All With the recent discussion about power tools, I read an interesting review of lightweight routers today in good woodworking magazine. The Trend T3 was the recommended product at £41, but the Ferm FBF-6E was quoted as being amazing value at £25. The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar - absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt that they are made in the same factory. Why does one sell for 40% more than the other? Brand name. Dave Brand name always charges a premium whatever anyone says. Just look at the DeWalt range of toolbelts and workbags. I don't doubt it may be good quality but it's still sold at a premium simply cos of the name on it. |
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"david lang" writes: Hi All With the recent discussion about power tools, I read an interesting review of lightweight routers today in good woodworking magazine. The Trend T3 was the recommended product at £41, but the Ferm FBF-6E was quoted as being amazing value at £25. The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar - absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt that they are made in the same factory. Why does one sell for 40% more than the other? Brand name. Products sell for what people will pay for them, which often bears no resemblence to how much they cost to manufacture. -- Andrew Gabriel |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
david lang wrote: The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar - absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt that they are made in the same factory. It's possible one make uses tighter production tolerances. Ie, checked to be fully up to spec. The other - sort of seconds. Aha, identical but different. Well done! |
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"Chris Bacon" wrote in message ... Dave Plowman (News) through a haze of senile flatulence wrote: david lang wrote: The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar - absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt that they are made in the same factory. It's possible one make uses tighter production tolerances. Ie, checked to be fully up to spec. The other - sort of seconds. Aha, identical but different. Well done! Chrsi, you will get used to the senility. |
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"Chris Bacon" wrote Aha, identical but different. Well done! Chrsi, you will get used to the senility. Thank you. Perhaps you will join me in a nice game of dominoes! |
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Products sell for what people will pay for them, which often bears no resemblence to how much they cost to manufacture. Or to what they are actually worth..... Henry |
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Chris Bacon wrote: It's possible one make uses tighter production tolerances. Ie, checked to be fully up to spec. The other - sort of seconds. Aha, identical but different. Well done! It's certainly the case with car tyres. Check out a new car with brand X tyres and see if there are balancing weights. There won't be. Buy the same brand afterwards and fit them to the same car and they'll need balancing. Get the point? -- *Forget about World Peace...Visualize using your turn signal. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote: It's possible one make uses tighter production tolerances. Ie, checked to be fully up to spec. The other - sort of seconds. Aha, identical but different. Well done! It's certainly the case with car tyres. Check out a new car with brand X tyres and see if there are balancing weights. There won't be. Buy the same brand afterwards and fit them to the same car and they'll need balancing. Get the point? What point. If two items are identical, they are the same. I'm afraid that your interesting (although pointless) remark about new cars and wheel balance weights is complete rubbish. |
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:25:42 GMT, "david lang"
wrote: Hi All With the recent discussion about power tools, I read an interesting review of lightweight routers today in good woodworking magazine. The Trend T3 was the recommended product at £41, but the Ferm FBF-6E was quoted as being amazing value at £25. The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar - absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt that they are made in the same factory. Why does one sell for 40% more than the other? Brand name. Dave I think that you could well be putting two and two together and arriving at five. The products could quite easily have the same electrical specs and exterior appearance, but be made with different internal components and to a different QA level. We know that an 1800W PPPoo router has crappy motor performance, so specs are highly questionable anyway. -- ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Andy Hall wrote:
The products could quite easily have the same electrical specs and exterior appearance, but be made with different internal components and to a different QA level. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck & quacks like a duck ................. it's a duck!! Dave |
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Chris Bacon wrote: What point. If two items are identical, they are the same. But the items ain't identical. They have different badges if nothing else. And unless you've done a full production engineering assessment of both you can't say for sure they're otherwise identical. I'm afraid that your interesting (although pointless) remark about new cars and wheel balance weights is complete rubbish. It was just to illustrate the point that products which look identical may not be. -- *You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"david lang" wrote in message
... Andy Hall wrote: The products could quite easily have the same electrical specs and exterior appearance, but be made with different internal components and to a different QA level. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck & quacks like a duck ................ it's a duck!! Or Dr Drivel. Dave |
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david lang wrote:
With the recent discussion about power tools, I read an interesting review of lightweight routers today in good woodworking magazine. The Trend T3 was the recommended product at £41, but the Ferm FBF-6E was quoted as being amazing value at £25. The point is that these routers are absolutely identical - not similar - absolutely identical in appearance, specification, everything. No doubt that they are made in the same factory. Going back to this, various people have mentioned that they may not be identical (the badges aren't, which I feel is prevaricating). How do you/"Good Woodworking" know they are identical? |
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Chris Bacon wrote:
Going back to this, various people have mentioned that they may not be identical (the badges aren't, which I feel is prevaricating). How do you/"Good Woodworking" know they are identical? Good Woodworking - who Trend regularly advertise with - are noteably cautious. They only say that the baseplate will accept all theTrend guide bushes and accessories. Technical spec is identical. Speeds, plunge depth, wattage, weight etc. However, there are good quality large colour photos of both machines. The body moulding, switch, cable entry, knobs, depth turret, base, plunge columns, collet, wing nuts - every single detail is identical. If it looks like a duck ........... Quack, quack........ Dave |
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"Dave P" wrote in message ... "david lang" wrote in message ... Andy Hall wrote: The products could quite easily have the same electrical specs and exterior appearance, but be made with different internal components and to a different QA level. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck & quacks like a duck ................ it's a duck!! Or Dr Drivel. Oh you are full of wit. Durgh..... |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:08:14 GMT, "david lang"
wrote: Andy Hall wrote: The products could quite easily have the same electrical specs and exterior appearance, but be made with different internal components and to a different QA level. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck & quacks like a duck ................ it's a duck!! Dave Unless it's a drake. You have to check under the feathers...... -- ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:54:35 +0100, Doctor Drivel
wrote: Oh you are full of wit. Durgh..... I am sure Dr. Spooner would have described you as a shining wit. John Schmitt -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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