On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 12:35:05 +0100, "Doctor Drivel"
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 11:35:36 +0100, "Doctor Drivel"
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I'm afraid that there is a lot of hypocrisy about. Organisations like the
CPRE (whose survey this is) represent many people who live in a nice place,
like it and think that no-one else should live there. Those who need a new
house but can't afford one are bottom of their list of concerns. The green
belt should be a moveable boundary.

Rod Bull, Birmingham, UK


Most people no idea of land, its: ownership, usage, economics, how they are
at a disadvantage, etc, etc. If they did they would vote the other way. A
poll from people who are victims of propaganda is not worth a light. This
similar to having a poll in Germany in 1938 of who is the best leader in the
world.

If want to know about these things, just ask me.


If I wanted to know about these things, I would ask anybody else.

Your suggestion that the view of people who happen to disagree with
you is not worth counting because you think that they are victims of
some imagined propaganda is the typical justification of a dictator.

On your argument, I could suggest that Michael Howard be in 10 Downing
St. because the people that voted for the present incumbent were in
some way the victims of propaganda.


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On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 12:35:05 +0100, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 11:35:36 +0100, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
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I'm afraid that there is a lot of hypocrisy about. Organisations like the
CPRE (whose survey this is) represent many people who live in a nice
place,
like it and think that no-one else should live there. Those who need a
new
house but can't afford one are bottom of their list of concerns. The
green
belt should be a moveable boundary.

Rod Bull, Birmingham, UK


Most people no idea of land, its: ownership, usage, economics, how they
are
at a disadvantage, etc, etc. If they did they would vote the other way.
A
poll from people who are victims of propaganda is not worth a light. This
similar to having a poll in Germany in 1938 of who is the best leader in
the
world.

If want to know about these things, just ask me.

If I wanted to know about these things, I would ask anybody else.

You have got it wrong again. I know more than them so go to the
knowledgeable people. Boy!

snip off focus stuff

On 8 Aug 2005 13:16:58 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

Andy Hall writes:

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On your argument, I could suggest that Michael Howard be in 10 Downing
St. because the people that voted for the present incumbent were in
some way the victims of propaganda.

Likely not the *best* metaphor you could have chosen...


No, true, which is why I said "could". Both this idea and that of
ignoring people's views are equally ridiculous - actually thinking
about it, the present incumbent of No10 should be included as well.


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On 8 Aug 2005 13:16:58 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

Andy Hall writes:

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On your argument, I could suggest that Michael Howard be in 10 Downing
St. because the people that voted for the present incumbent were in
some way the victims of propaganda.

Likely not the *best* metaphor you could have chosen...

No, true, which is why I said "could". Both this idea and that of
ignoring people's views are equally ridiculous

A view by someone devoid of all the facts is not worth a light. It doesn't
take much brains to figure that out.

On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 18:04:27 +0100, "Doctor Drivel"
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On 8 Aug 2005 13:16:58 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

Andy Hall writes:

[37 lines snipped]

On your argument, I could suggest that Michael Howard be in 10 Downing
St. because the people that voted for the present incumbent were in
some way the victims of propaganda.

Likely not the *best* metaphor you could have chosen...

No, true, which is why I said "could". Both this idea and that of
ignoring people's views are equally ridiculous

A view by someone devoid of all the facts is not worth a light. It doesn't
take much brains to figure that out.


As you demonstrate multiple times daily......


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On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 18:04:27 +0100, "Doctor Drivel"
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On 8 Aug 2005 13:16:58 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

Andy Hall writes:

[37 lines snipped]

On your argument, I could suggest that Michael Howard be in 10
Downing
St. because the people that voted for the present incumbent were in
some way the victims of propaganda.

Likely not the *best* metaphor you could have chosen...

No, true, which is why I said "could". Both this idea and that of
ignoring people's views are equally ridiculous

A view by someone devoid of all the facts is not worth a light. It
doesn't
take much brains to figure that out.

As you demonstrate multiple times daily......

I do. I bring these to your Little Middle England attention.

In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Maxie, on Top Gear tonight, it is the only car so bad they would not let
it onto the cool board, BMs are so bad. Get a Prius.

You seen where that is on the 'cool' board?

Of course not.

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Doctor Drivel wrote:
My God! Does this turkey know how much, the size and price, and noise
and vibration of a 4.5 bar pump? He thinks it is like a fish tank
pump.

304mm x 423mm x 247mm
34 litres/minute @ 4.75bar

Now that would give a decent shower. ;-)

At a cost and that is a cheapo. Look at the proper pumps.

Why would I? I get a superb shower from a storage hot water system fed
from a header tank something like 5 metres above the shower, using
carefully made pipe runs in 22mm. Easily achieved in many houses.

Not everyone lives in a one bedroom council flat and wants a dribble for a
shower.

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raden wrote:
BMs are so bad. Get a Prius.

I've got a drive of about 800 miles next weekend - no thanks

You also can imagine the idea of a hybrid with a low powered engine and
the battery flat on a long drive?

So can I - and the vast petrol cost.

23 mpg. Ridiculous. A nice '50s car would do far better at half the price.

And any modern one would p**s all over it.

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Doctor Drivel wrote:
all three of the SD1s I had have prolly gone to the drivel depot in
the sky to be converted into Priuses

Just got my '85 Vitesse back from the body shop after a complete
respray.

You mean you never scrapped it?

Why scrap something you enjoy? But driving enjoyment doesn't enter your
world, if you say you have a Prius. (which of course you don't)

BMW for me nowadays

Me too, for the everyday car.

BMW? It is getting worse now. How cheap and naff you are.

See above. Not surprised you live in MK.

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Living in the single most densely populated state in the US, New Jersey,

If only.

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raden wrote:
BMs are so bad. Get a Prius.

I've got a drive of about 800 miles next weekend - no thanks

You also can imagine the idea of a hybrid with a low powered engine and
the battery flat on a long drive?

Really, I'd rather not


So can I - and the vast petrol cost.

23 mpg. Ridiculous.

Actually cruising along at 120 - 130, I can't imagine I'm going to get
much better than that

A nice '50s car would do far better at half the price.

And any modern one would p**s all over it.


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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
My God! Does this turkey know how much, the size and price, and
noise
and vibration of a 4.5 bar pump? He thinks it is like a fish tank
pump.

304mm x 423mm x 247mm
34 litres/minute @ 4.75bar

Now that would give a decent shower. ;-)

At a cost and that is a cheapo. Look at the proper pumps.

Why would I? I get a superb shower from a storage hot water system fed
from a header tank something like 5 metres above the shower,

You don't, stop telling lies.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
all three of the SD1s I had have prolly gone to the drivel depot in
the sky to be converted into Priuses

Just got my '85 Vitesse back from the body shop after a complete
respray.

You mean you never scrapped it?

Why scrap something you enjoy?

Do you use it in the demolition derby? That's all it is fit for.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
raden wrote:
BMs are so bad. Get a Prius.

I've got a drive of about 800 miles next weekend - no thanks

You also can imagine the idea of a hybrid

You can't imagine a hybrid, your mid can't go that far.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:

Maxie, on Top Gear tonight, it is the only car so bad they would not let
it onto the cool board, BMs are so bad. Get a Prius.

You seen where that is on the 'cool' board?

Very cool. Hollwood's fav' car. The BMW? thrown away.

"Doctor Drivel" wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Matt wrote:
My God! Does this turkey know how much, the size and price, and noise
and vibration of a 4.5 bar pump? He thinks it is like a fish tank
pump.

304mm x 423mm x 247mm
34 litres/minute @ 4.75bar

Now that would give a decent shower. ;-)

At a cost and that is a cheapo. Look at the proper pumps.

Low cost but not "a cheapo" They are better built than pumps costing
500 quid from other manufacturers.


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Doctor Drivel wrote:


Maxie, you will wait for one. They can't make enough of them. They are you
going to ditch the Essex car?

Not in the reports I'm reading, ex stock, discounted and depreciating
like mad! Anyway, why would he want to buy a car which wont go up hills
properly, or work in cold weather, is built on the Yaris platform
(AIUI), costs 3 times as much as a Yaris to purchase new and is not as
economical as a diesel Yaris? The last quote I saw for a new computer
screen etc replacement was $3800 + tax.

Regards
Capitol

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"Doctor Drivel" wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Matt wrote:
My God! Does this turkey know how much, the size and price, and
noise
and vibration of a 4.5 bar pump? He thinks it is like a fish tank
pump.

304mm x 423mm x 247mm
34 litres/minute @ 4.75bar

Now that would give a decent shower. ;-)

At a cost and that is a cheapo. Look at the proper pumps.

Low cost but not "a cheapo"

Stop making things up. No link either.

In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
You also can imagine the idea of a hybrid

You can't imagine a hybrid, your mid can't go that far.

Anyone translate Zog?

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In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Maxie, on Top Gear tonight, it is the only car so bad they would not let
it onto the cool board, BMs are so bad. Get a Prius.

You seen where that is on the 'cool' board?

Very cool. Hollwood's fav' car. The BMW? thrown away.

So the one 'socialist' who wants unlimited green field developments takes
Hollywood as his reference?

Nurse - the screens.

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Capitol wrote:
Maxie, you will wait for one. They can't make enough of them. They
are you going to ditch the Essex car?

Not in the reports I'm reading, ex stock, discounted and depreciating
like mad! Anyway, why would he want to buy a car which wont go up hills
properly, or work in cold weather, is built on the Yaris platform
(AIUI), costs 3 times as much as a Yaris to purchase new and is not as
economical as a diesel Yaris? The last quote I saw for a new computer
screen etc replacement was $3800 + tax.

And 23 mpg. Ancient Jaguars did better.

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"Capitol" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:


Maxie, you will wait for one. They can't make enough of them. When are
you
going to ditch the Essex car?

Not in the reports I'm reading,

But your reports always were odd.

ex stock, discounted and depreciating
like mad!

Stop making things up. There is a waiting list for the Prius.

Anyway, why would he want to buy a car which wont go up hills
properly,

zips up hills.

or work in cold weather,

Stop making things up.

is built on the Yaris platform
(AIUI),

nope. It is bigger than the Mk 1 Avensis. You have been told to stop
making things up.

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In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
You also can imagine the idea of a hybrid

You can't imagine a hybrid, your mid can't go that far.

Anyone

snip drivel

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Maxie, on Top Gear tonight, it is the only car so bad they would not
let
it onto the cool board, BMs are so bad. Get a Prius.

You seen where that is on the 'cool' board?

Very cool. Hollwood's fav' car. The BMW? thrown away.

So the one 'socialist' who wants
unlimited green field developments takes
Hollywood as his reference?

A sad case indeed. Green field developments and cars? Signs of a mind in
an advanced state of decay.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Capitol wrote:
Maxie, you will wait for one. They can't make enough of them. They
are you going to ditch the Essex car?

Not in the reports I'm reading, ex stock, discounted and depreciating
like mad! Anyway, why would he want to buy a car which wont go up hills
properly, or work in cold weather, is built on the Yaris platform
(AIUI), costs 3 times as much as a Yaris to purchase new and is not as
economical as a diesel Yaris? The last quote I saw for a new computer
screen etc replacement was $3800 + tax.

And 23 mpg. Ancient Jaguars did better.

You two deserve each other. Well I would the pair of you locked up.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Maxie, on Top Gear tonight, it is the only car so bad they would not let
it onto the cool board, BMs are so bad. Get a Prius.


You seen where that is on the 'cool' board?

Of course not.

I just got bought a magnetic version of the "cool wall" for my birthday.
I can now recreate it on my fridge....

Thing is I may have to set asside a little space on the microwave since
that is the only thing magnetic far enough to the left of the fridge for
the prius to go on... ;-)


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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Maxie, on Top Gear tonight, it is the only car so bad they would not let
it onto the cool board, BMs are so bad. Get a Prius.


You seen where that is on the 'cool' board?

Of course not.

I just got bought a magnetic version of the "cool wall" for my birthday.
I can now recreate it on my fridge....

Thing is I may have to set asside a little space on the microwave since
that is the only thing magnetic far enough to the left of the fridge for
the prius to go on... ;-)

The Prius is so cool it is inside the freezer.

In message , John
Rumm writes
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Maxie, on Top Gear tonight, it is the only car so bad they would not let
it onto the cool board, BMs are so bad. Get a Prius.
You seen where that is on the 'cool' board?
Of course not.

I just got bought a magnetic version of the "cool wall" for my
birthday. I can now recreate it on my fridge....

Thing is I may have to set asside a little space on the microwave since
that is the only thing magnetic far enough to the left of the fridge
for the prius to go on... ;-)

I can take it to germany if you want next week

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Doctor Drivel wrote:
The Prius is so cool it is inside the freezer.

Where you'll find it's got desperate problems with its batteries.
Something else you don't know about...

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raden wrote:

I just got bought a magnetic version of the "cool wall" for my
birthday. I can now recreate it on my fridge....

Thing is I may have to set asside a little space on the microwave
since that is the only thing magnetic far enough to the left of the
fridge for the prius to go on... ;-)

I can take it to germany if you want next week

LOL..

Only thing is that is East from here - heading toward "sub zero" not
"uncool"... then again I suppose if I shifted it some 18k miles to the
left then that might work! ;-)

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In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
The Prius is so cool it is inside the freezer.

Where

snip senile babble

In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
The Prius is so cool it is inside the freezer.

Where you'll find it's got desperate problems with its batteries.
Something else you don't know about...

snip senile babble

Restored, since Drivel knows nothing about electronics. (As near
everything else)

Or about 23 mpg Priuses. (Source, Autocar)

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:

The Prius is so cool it is inside the freezer.

Where

snip senile babble

Restored,

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