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Grady
 
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Default shim stock needed

I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically, leaning
toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying to find
some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft rolls. I need
about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing to buy some from
someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily available. All help
greatly appreciated.

Grady


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Buy a few cheapie feeler guage sets and take them apart for shims- already
marked for size.
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I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically, leaning
toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying to find
some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft rolls. I need
about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing to buy some

from
someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily available. All help
greatly appreciated.

Grady




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Grady wrote:
I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically, leaning
toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying to find
some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft rolls. I need
about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing to buy some from
someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily available. All help
greatly appreciated.

Grady



ZigZag cigarette papers are reliably .001" and they cost about $1.10/pack
at Wal-Mart. I use those as shims all the time. - GWE
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Different weights of Al foil and oiled paper work fine. Assorted packs
of brass shim stock are available from local welding shops and other
sources.
Bugs

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Enco and MSC have $20 packages of shim stock that cover the sizes you
need and up to about 25 thou or more, in sheets that are about 5 X 10
inches. These packages come in either brass or steel. You'll never be
sorry that you invested.

Pete Stanaitis
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Grady wrote:

I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically, leaning
toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying to find
some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft rolls. I need
about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing to buy some from
someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily available. All help
greatly appreciated.

Grady






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And just what percentage of each "Shim Pack" is actually used for shims?
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Grady wrote:
I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically,
leaning toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying
to find some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft
rolls. I need about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing
to buy some from someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily
available. All help greatly appreciated.

Grady



ZigZag cigarette papers are reliably .001" and they cost about $1.10/pack
at Wal-Mart. I use those as shims all the time. - GWE



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Tom Gardner wrote:
And just what percentage of each "Shim Pack" is actually used for shims?


Don't think your subtle aspersions are going by me, Tom. I don't smoke.
Anything.

GWE

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Grady wrote:

I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically,
leaning toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying
to find some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft
rolls. I need about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing
to buy some from someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily
available. All help greatly appreciated.

Grady



ZigZag cigarette papers are reliably .001" and they cost about $1.10/pack
at Wal-Mart. I use those as shims all the time. - GWE




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One of our local hardware stores has a hobby section with packages of
brass shim stock. 0.001 and up.
Have you checked for such packs locally?

Paul

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Grady wrote:
I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically, leaning
toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying to find
some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft rolls. I need
about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing to buy some from
someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily available. All help
greatly appreciated.

MSC, KBC, J&L, Travers, all the machine shop suppliers have this, in
brass and steel. You can buy a set that has about 12 thicknesses,
including .001 and .0015". Home aluminum foil is pretty close to
..0015" McMaster-Carr most likely has this, too. The assortment packs
are usually something like 4 x 8" sheets.

Jon

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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 12:50:23 -0600, Jon Elson wrote:
Grady wrote:
I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically, leaning
toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying to find
some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft rolls. I need
about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing to buy some from
someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily available. All help
greatly appreciated.

MSC, KBC, J&L, Travers, all the machine shop suppliers have this, in
brass and steel. You can buy a set that has about 12 thicknesses,
including .001 and .0015". Home aluminum foil is pretty close to
.0015" McMaster-Carr most likely has this, too. The assortment packs
are usually something like 4 x 8" sheets.


When I was over in England, I was introduced to "peelable shims", but I
haven't seen them since. Steel sandwich of shim stock, glued together.
Peel off as few or as many as needed to get the desired thickness. Does
anyone know the real name for these, or were they a figment of my
imagination?



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Tom Gardner wrote:
And just what percentage of each "Shim Pack" is actually used for shims?


Hey man, like, you know, um, who keeps track, ya dig?

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Grady wrote:

I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically,
leaning toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying
to find some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft
rolls. I need about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing
to buy some from someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily
available. All help greatly appreciated.

Grady



ZigZag cigarette papers are reliably .001" and they cost about $1.10/pack
at Wal-Mart. I use those as shims all the time. - GWE




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"Grady" wrote in message news:wthVd.57$Qz.46@okepread05...
I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically, leaning
toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying to find
some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft rolls. I need
about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing to buy some
from someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily available. All
help greatly appreciated.

Grady



I thought this is why we save and cut up soda cans?

Steve.


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"Dave Hinz" wrote in message
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 12:50:23 -0600, Jon Elson

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Grady wrote:
.0015" McMaster-Carr most likely has this, too. The assortment packs
are usually something like 4 x 8" sheets.


The assortment packs I have seen, and have, are all 6" x 12". Of course,
you almost always run out of one size or another. For slightly bigger
quantities, there are various makes of shim-in-a-can. A roll of one size in
a round can between a V-8 and soup can.

When I was over in England, I was introduced to "peelable shims", but I
haven't seen them since. Steel sandwich of shim stock, glued together.
Peel off as few or as many as needed to get the desired thickness. Does
anyone know the real name for these, or were they a figment of my
imagination?


Not your imagination. Great stuff when you need to sneak up on a
particular shim. Shaping it is the problem. Snips are only good for very
thin sections because the edges peel away and delaminate. Put the
laminated shim between two sheets of brass, say and machine the lot to
shape. Wonderful stuff at wonderful prices -- I think it is measured in
dollars/square-inch. I have a few small pieces that I got out of a scrap
bin from a guy who thought it was just inferior brass. When you see the
price it makes you think twice about using this stuff.

Boris


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When I was over in England, I was introduced to "peelable shims", but I
haven't seen them since. Steel sandwich of shim stock, glued together.


You can buy them from MSC.
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On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 05:32:49 -0600, the inscrutable "Grady"
spake:

I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically, leaning
toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying to find
some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft rolls. I need
about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing to buy some from
someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily available. All help
greatly appreciated.


Aren't Pepsi (etc.) cans about that thickness? Give one a try.

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If you want to mail-order check out

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...=1,43456,43407

John.

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"Grady" wrote in message news:wthVd.57$Qz.46@okepread05...
I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically, leaning
toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying to find
some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft rolls. I need
about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing to buy some from
someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily available. All help
greatly appreciated.

Grady



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"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
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Grady wrote:
I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically,

leaning
toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying to find
some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft rolls. I

need
about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing to buy some

from
someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily available. All

help
greatly appreciated.

Grady



ZigZag cigarette papers are reliably .001" and they cost about $1.10/pack
at Wal-Mart. I use those as shims all the time. - GWE


So THAT's what you tell the police!

LB


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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 06:01:09 -0800, Grant Erwin
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Grady wrote:
I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically, leaning
toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying to find
some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft rolls. I need
about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing to buy some from
someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily available. All help
greatly appreciated.

Grady



ZigZag cigarette papers are reliably .001" and they cost about $1.10/pack
at Wal-Mart. I use those as shims all the time. - GWE



An old VHS video cassette will give you a
lifetime supply of precision shimstock of better strength
and thickness tolerance than cigarette paper.

E300 thickness is 0.0005" with shorter time
cassettes proportionally thicker. Precise thickness
measurement is easy - measure the total thickness of a 16 or
32 multiple fold of the tape.

Jim

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In article wthVd.57$Qz.46@okepread05, Grady says...

I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically, leaning
toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying to find
some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft rolls. I need
about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing to buy some from
someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily available. All help
greatly appreciated.


Do not use any paper or polymer shim. Stick to steel.

I would even avoid brass for this.

Jim


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Ah HAH! Noted and filed .. thanks, Jim! Although I never noticed *any*
variation in good old Zig-Zags. (hak kaff) :-)

GWE

An old VHS video cassette will give you a
lifetime supply of precision shimstock of better strength
and thickness tolerance than cigarette paper.

E300 thickness is 0.0005" with shorter time
cassettes proportionally thicker. Precise thickness
measurement is easy - measure the total thickness of a 16 or
32 multiple fold of the tape.

Jim



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Grady wrote:

I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically, leaning
toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying to find
some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft rolls. I need
about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing to buy some from
someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily available. All help
greatly appreciated.

Grady


Starrett make exactly what you require #667

http://catalog.starrett.com/catalog/...sp?groupid=401

Tom
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Dave Hinz wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 12:50:23 -0600, Jon Elson wrote:
Grady wrote:
I am tramming a Homier mini mill and the column is out vertically, leaning
toward the front. I have exhausted all local supply house trying to find
some .001 and .0015 shim stock, short of buying 50 or 100 ft rolls. I need
about a foot of each max, 1/2 inch wide. I would be willing to buy some from
someone for a reasonable price if you have it readily available. All help
greatly appreciated.

MSC, KBC, J&L, Travers, all the machine shop suppliers have this, in
brass and steel. You can buy a set that has about 12 thicknesses,
including .001 and .0015". Home aluminum foil is pretty close to
.0015" McMaster-Carr most likely has this, too. The assortment packs
are usually something like 4 x 8" sheets.


When I was over in England, I was introduced to "peelable shims", but I
haven't seen them since. Steel sandwich of shim stock, glued together.
Peel off as few or as many as needed to get the desired thickness. Does
anyone know the real name for these, or were they a figment of my
imagination?


Laminated, been around for several millennia.
http://www.lyonindustries.com/

Tom
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