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I must be getting old - err "mature".
I told the wife - I must be 'maturing'. Fetched home an old corded drill. Free - but "a little play" in the front bushing - not more than a quarter inch. I pulled the chuck, "because for that, I have a use." Not "some day, or "maybe, I can" but - "that there drill guide needs a chuck.". So that's "fixed" - what to do with the rest of it? I did take it apart - brushes in good shape, - in fact, aside from the worn out bushing, it seemed in "good shape" for an old drill. I know it was old, because it had formerly belonged to the church back when it was "Grace Community". (Which was a long time ago.) But the other clue was that it was a metal body. I mean, it has been a long time since cheap drills were made with metal bodies.) (I have a Skill drill from 1978, and it has a plastic body.) Anyway, I realized I'm getting older: I tossed all the parts. Okay, I kept the electric motor (windings and stator) "just because" - but the rest all will go away. need the room, I'm not electrically incline to use the parts for something. I did ponder the sort of society which would find it cost effective to replace the bushing so it wouldn't wobble. Sigh, too soon old, too late schamrt. But I have a drill guide which works. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich. Discussing the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol once wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with." |
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I must be getting old - err "mature".
On Sun, 01 Apr 2018 20:38:54 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: I told the wife - I must be 'maturing'. Fetched home an old corded drill. Free - but "a little play" in the front bushing - not more than a quarter inch. I pulled the chuck, "because for that, I have a use." Not "some day, or "maybe, I can" but - "that there drill guide needs a chuck.". So that's "fixed" - what to do with the rest of it? I did take it apart - brushes in good shape, - in fact, aside from the worn out bushing, it seemed in "good shape" for an old drill. I know it was old, because it had formerly belonged to the church back when it was "Grace Community". (Which was a long time ago.) But the other clue was that it was a metal body. I mean, it has been a long time since cheap drills were made with metal bodies.) (I have a Skill drill from 1978, and it has a plastic body.) Anyway, I realized I'm getting older: I tossed all the parts. Okay, I kept the electric motor (windings and stator) "just because" - but the rest all will go away. need the room, I'm not electrically incline to use the parts for something. I did ponder the sort of society which would find it cost effective to replace the bushing so it wouldn't wobble. Sigh, too soon old, too late schamrt. But I have a drill guide which works. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich. Discussing the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol once wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with." I bought a "Portable Electric Tools" 1/4" drill from CTC for $17.00 in 1957 and still have it. I don't use it very often but have wired several houses with as well as driveing 4-5 inch grind stones, buffing wheels and sanding discs with it over 60+ years. I did give a 1/2" "D" handle drill from 1948 to my Plumber neighbour across the street when he expressed an interest in it, I had grabbed it for $2.00 at a yard sale. All it needed was a new cord (the old one had eleven patches, mostly duct tape or masking tape) and a good chuck cleaning. |
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I must be getting old - err "mature".
Gerry writes: I bought a "Portable Electric Tools" 1/4" drill from CTC for $17.00 in 1957 and still have it. I don't use it very often but have wired several houses with as well as driveing 4-5 inch grind stones, buffing wheels and sanding discs with it over 60+ years. I did give a 1/2" "D" handle drill from 1948 to my Plumber neighbour across the street when he expressed an interest in it, I had grabbed it for $2.00 at a yard sale. All it needed was a new cord (the old one had eleven patches, mostly duct tape or masking tape) and a good chuck cleaning. I may have recounted this before. I have a B&D 1/2" pistol-grip drill that's listed in a 1925 catalog for $58.00. Weighs 16#, all-metal. Bought it, aong with a B&D end grinder of same vintage, in '67. Circa 1978, a brush holder broke. Drove 70 miles to the city to the B&D repair depot. Man started at the left end of the long catalog shelf with the big microfiche ringbinders (no computers then), worked his way down past the paper ringbinders, fat catalogs, small catalogs to the very last item on the shelf. Thin, about 20 pages, greasy and tattered, paged through it. Went off to his parts racks and came back with a tray containing 3 of the needed parts. So I bought 2. Drill is still going great and I haven't needed the 2nd holder yet. Fast forward to circa 2004. My B&D, all-metal 1/4" drill -- inherited, probably circa 1970 vintage -- needed a new bearing. Called B&D. Young feller I talked to went clicky-cliccky on his computer, said, "Oh, jeez, that's *OLD*." And they didn't have the bearing. -- Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada |
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I must be getting old - err "mature".
On Sun, 01 Apr 2018 20:38:54 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: I told the wife - I must be 'maturing'. Fetched home an old corded drill. Free - but "a little play" in the front bushing - not more than a quarter inch. I pulled the chuck, "because for that, I have a use." Not "some day, or "maybe, I can" but - "that there drill guide needs a chuck.". So that's "fixed" - what to do with the rest of it? I did take it apart - brushes in good shape, - in fact, aside from the worn out bushing, it seemed in "good shape" for an old drill. I know it was old, because it had formerly belonged to the church back when it was "Grace Community". (Which was a long time ago.) But the other clue was that it was a metal body. I mean, it has been a long time since cheap drills were made with metal bodies.) (I have a Skill drill from 1978, and it has a plastic body.) Anyway, I realized I'm getting older: I tossed all the parts. Okay, I kept the electric motor (windings and stator) "just because" - but the rest all will go away. need the room, I'm not electrically incline to use the parts for something. I did ponder the sort of society which would find it cost effective to replace the bushing so it wouldn't wobble. Sigh, too soon old, too late schamrt. But I have a drill guide which works. tschus pyotr Why didnt you replace the bushing with a new one? Turn it on the lathe and install it? Ive fixed several OLD drills doing this. They still run strong and straight. Use Oilite bronze. -- pyotr filipivich. Discussing the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol once wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with." --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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I must be getting old - err "mature".
Gunner Asch on Mon, 02 Apr 2018 02:49:38 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: Why didnt you replace the bushing with a new one? Turn it on the lathe and install it? I've enough projects. And for me - not a reasonable option. Should have given it to Carlin. Ive fixed several OLD drills doing this. They still run strong and straight. Use Oilite bronze. -- -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone." |
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I must be getting old - err "mature".
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
... Gunner Asch on Mon, 02 Apr 2018 02:49:38 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: Why didnt you replace the bushing with a new one? Turn it on the lathe and install it? I've enough projects. And for me - not a reasonable option. "I did ponder the sort of society which would find it cost effective to replace the bushing so it wouldn't wobble." That would be a society with the skill and tools and inclination to do it, like r.c.m. Educational experience may not be immediately cost effective. -jsw |
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I must be getting old - err "mature".
"Jim Wilkins" on Tue, 3 Apr 2018 07:48:06 -0400
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: "pyotr filipivich" wrote in message .. . Gunner Asch on Mon, 02 Apr 2018 02:49:38 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: Why didnt you replace the bushing with a new one? Turn it on the lathe and install it? I've enough projects. And for me - not a reasonable option. "I did ponder the sort of society which would find it cost effective to replace the bushing so it wouldn't wobble." That would be a society with the skill and tools and inclination to do it, like r.c.m. Educational experience may not be immediately cost effective. There is that. I was thinking more along the lines of "extreme" 'make do or do without." -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone." |
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I must be getting old - err "mature".
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
... "Jim Wilkins" on Tue, 3 Apr 2018 07:48:06 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: "pyotr filipivich" wrote in message . .. Gunner Asch on Mon, 02 Apr 2018 02:49:38 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: Why didnt you replace the bushing with a new one? Turn it on the lathe and install it? I've enough projects. And for me - not a reasonable option. "I did ponder the sort of society which would find it cost effective to replace the bushing so it wouldn't wobble." That would be a society with the skill and tools and inclination to do it, like r.c.m. Educational experience may not be immediately cost effective. There is that. I was thinking more along the lines of "extreme" 'make do or do without." -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone." I hope we are a very long way from choosing to emulate the Workers' Paradise of Venezuela. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-43593970 I think enough of us in "flyover country" still have the self-reliant ethic of my father's generation that airdropped into the wild, roadless interior of New Guinea to build air strips and create modern civilization around them https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...rip_1 943.jpg Earlier this morning I was discussing the removal of a large roadside tree with the highway department foreman, who offered to take the wood away as a favor. I said I'll keep it and showed him pix of my home-made sawmill slicing similar logs into beams and planks. The old skills are still alive here in New Hampshire, along with the newest ones. http://www.birchbarkcanoe.net/ http://www.dekaresearch.com/ -jsw |
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I must be getting old - err "mature".
pyotr filipivich writes: I was thinking more along the lines of "extreme" 'make do or do without." BTDT. Now, decades later, that I'm a little better off, turns out you often can't buy a replacement that's worth a pinch of fuvg. Retired our 1950 blender after 2nd repair, went through 3 new ones, dug out the old one and repaired it again, better. It's still going. Not universally true but more often true than makes any sense to anybody with a few tools and skills. Of course, it helps not to be depending on a day job or (see "BTDT", above) the day job *is* making do. -- Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada |
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