The problem with electrical DIY is that nowadays it has to be
certified by a qualified electrician. So could anyone recommend a way
for a mature person over 30 to train as an electrician? Going to
college in September is one option but they won't take people on
unless they're employed by an electrical company so they can assess
practical work on site. Also, I would like to enrole now so could
anyone kindly recommend a training route?

Thanks

ive been thinking of this too....
could i learn enough to be a 'competent' electrician
and rewire most of my house
but have a certified electrician do the testing?

[george]


"blackhead" wrote in message
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The problem with electrical DIY is that nowadays it has to be
certified by a qualified electrician. So could anyone recommend a way
for a mature person over 30 to train as an electrician? Going to
college in September is one option but they won't take people on
unless they're employed by an electrical company so they can assess
practical work on site. Also, I would like to enrole now so could
anyone kindly recommend a training route?

Thanks

In article ,
dave wrote:
Leave the country and work in a sain place. The red tape nonsense in
the UK is unbelievable. (Thanks to PPpp Prescott - Mr Part P). Yes I
am cynical. I served a 5 year apprenticeship (a real one) many years
ago yet have to get some "certified oik" to say it's done properly.
btw Anyone who think the new regs has put paid the cowboys is as naive
as believing in F. Xmas.
House wiring is a very simple circuit and while earthing is a
(justified) difficult topic, it's about the only difficult bit. I
assume you are good craftsmen of course. Over a certain age? Forget
working in Britain. You are not over that age yet - that's prob 40ish.
I wish you well however, but Britain, Land of usless Red tape is a
pathetic place just now.

Is that why we're awash with immigrants all of whom seem to find work?

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*When blondes have more fun, do they know it?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:
Leave the country and work in a sain place. The red tape nonsense in
the UK is unbelievable. (Thanks to PPpp Prescott - Mr Part P). Yes I
am cynical. I served a 5 year apprenticeship (a real one) many years
ago yet have to get some "certified oik" to say it's done properly.
btw Anyone who think the new regs has put paid the cowboys is as
naive as believing in F. Xmas.
House wiring is a very simple circuit and while earthing is a
(justified) difficult topic, it's about the only difficult bit. I
assume you are good craftsmen of course. Over a certain age? Forget
working in Britain. You are not over that age yet - that's prob
40ish. I wish you well however, but Britain, Land of usless Red tape
is a pathetic place just now.

Is that why we're awash with immigrants all of whom seem to find work?

There's a serious issue here now for our kids, ( and funding Oldies like me
through our later lives). We've exported most of the jobs overseas. Tight
pollution control in the EU and high salaries mean it's cheaper to have call
centres and IT in India, manufacturing in China with the pollution problems
being caused for China and on recent news Korea. Existing service jobs ( and
some more technical) being taken up by folk from east Europe at lower cost.
Local motor manufacturing going to east Europe.

Education going down the pan here. Recent news, 20 new Mickey Mouse
Universities to be established which raises the students aspirations when
they leave with a McD degree which qualifies them for little!

On Mar 3, 6:26*pm, blackhead wrote:
The problem with electrical DIY is that nowadays it has to be
certified by a qualified electrician. ... Thanks

I thought that a part-p qualified elerician could only self-certify.
That is, he can only certify his own work. If you DIY notifyable work
without part-p then surely you have to notfy building control in
advance and have them check it at various stages.

I looked into getting a part-p qualification, but the "nominal fee"
was far from nominal.

Robert

On Mar 4, 9:16*am, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
* *dave wrote:

Leave the country and work in a sain place. The red tape nonsense in
the UK is unbelievable. (Thanks to PPpp Prescott - Mr Part P). *Yes I
am cynical. I served a 5 year apprenticeship (a real one) many years
ago yet have to get some "certified oik" to say it's done properly.
btw Anyone who think the new regs has put paid the cowboys is as naive
as believing in F. Xmas.
*House wiring is a very simple circuit and while earthing is a
(justified) difficult topic, it's about the only difficult bit. I
assume you are good craftsmen of course. * Over a certain age? Forget
working in Britain. You are not over that age yet - that's prob 40ish.
I wish you well however, but Britain, Land of usless Red tape is a
pathetic place just now.

Is that why we're awash with immigrants all of whom seem to find work?


In my experience, the ones from Eastern Europe seem to have
qualifications and experience as electricians and plumbers etc. rather
than degrees in media studies and the like.

Robert
(feeling opinionated today)

In article
,
RobertL wrote:
Is that why we're awash with immigrants all of whom seem to find work?


In my experience, the ones from Eastern Europe seem to have
qualifications and experience as electricians and plumbers etc. rather
than degrees in media studies and the like.

Yup. And the laugh is those meja studies degrees are of little use in
finding work that industry.

--
*Starfishes have no brains *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 3 Mar, 18:26, blackhead wrote:
The problem with electrical DIY is that nowadays it has to be
certified by a qualified electrician. So could anyone recommend a way
for a mature person over 30 to train as an electrician? Going to
college in September is one option but they won't take people on
unless they're employed by an electrical company so they can assess
practical work on site. Also, I would like to enrole now so could
anyone kindly recommend a training route?

Thanks

Various training organisations offer an EAL qualification "Domestic
Electrical Installer or DEI" which includes the on-line buiding
regulations part P test. It is usually run over about 8 days and on
satisfactory completion theoretically gives access to enrolling with
one of the competent persons schemes such as Elecsa, Napit etc. It is
not cheap as you need to pay for the course plus buy the requisite
calibrated test equipment, pay the enrolment fee to the schem you
choose, pay an annual membership fee and in many cases pay an
insurance premium to comply with the scheme requirements.
I reckon you are looking at spending around £2500 to £3000 on
pointless beuracracy
IMO Prescott should have been strangled at birth to save the planet
from his stupidity!