On 2017-06-17, pyotr filipivich wrote:

I was given one of the Ryobi drill bits & accessory kits a bunch
of years ago. Wonderful, rolled up into a compact unit that stuffs in
a tool bag.
Since then, I have accumulated a metric but load of hexdrive
drills, screwdriver bits, allen drives and the other goodies. But
there seems to be this idea that space is infinite, and one can use
the space of a steven king novel to store and hold a dozen drill bits.
No wonder tool boxes are now coming with wheels and extendable
handles! It isn't the weight of the tools - but the bulk of all the
plastic kits, boxes and accessory containers!

Anyway, what I am looking for is another canvas roll with (in this
case) elastic bands for the holding of drill bits, hex drive bits
(slotted, Philips, square drive, pozi drive, and security torx drive)
and related.

One problem with the elastic bands is that it allows the edges
of the drill flutes to bash against each other, thus dulling them.

Another problem is that some shapes are not good for holding
under elastic bands. I have this problem with the rechargeable
batteries for the Nikon camera. They keep slipping out of the bands and
falling into the bottom of the case.

For everything else, the elastic bands might work, but the old
style rolls with pockets formed by stitches separating them. Make it
out of old oilcloth, if you can find it, otherwise perhaps with the tarp
materials which are now available. Perhaps add some tough cloth along
the bottom of each groove to reinforce the stitches.

This assumes that you have a sewing machine.

Does anyone have any idea why they stopped making these, and just
went to custom built injection molded containers with no room for
expansion?

It is easier to automate the production of the molded
containers, so it costs less to make them.

Arrgh.

pyotr

Good Luck,
DoN.

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Many suggestions, thanks.

The pencil roll case is a good suggestion

Still I'm looking for something very much like this:
https://picclick.com/Ryobi-Roll-Up-Case-Masonry-Set-Drill-Bils-371922866298.html

If not this version, I have one like this - it works for me, I
want another to collect all the bits which don't "have a home" - or as
nice a place as this.

"DoN. Nichols" on 30 Jun 2017 03:09:33 GMT
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On 2017-06-17, pyotr filipivich wrote:
I was given one of the Ryobi drill bits & accessory kits a bunch
of years ago. Wonderful, rolled up into a compact unit that stuffs in
a tool bag.
Since then, I have accumulated a metric but load of hexdrive
drills, screwdriver bits, allen drives and the other goodies. But
there seems to be this idea that space is infinite, and one can use
the space of a steven king novel to store and hold a dozen drill bits.
No wonder tool boxes are now coming with wheels and extendable
handles! It isn't the weight of the tools - but the bulk of all the
plastic kits, boxes and accessory containers!

Anyway, what I am looking for is another canvas roll with (in this
case) elastic bands for the holding of drill bits, hex drive bits
(slotted, Philips, square drive, pozi drive, and security torx drive)
and related.

One problem with the elastic bands is that it allows the edges
of the drill flutes to bash against each other, thus dulling them.

Not a problem - so far. things are held nice and tight against the
roll, which rolls up into a small space. Not a lot of room to have
things rattling around.

Another problem is that some shapes are not good for holding
under elastic bands. I have this problem with the rechargeable
batteries for the Nikon camera. They keep slipping out of the bands and
falling into the bottom of the case.

On that line - I hate having black plastic or painted tools in a
black accessory bag, in the bottom of an oh so trendy black toolbag,
with another black case on top of it - and not enough light. (even if
it is mid day and I'm outside.)

For everything else, the elastic bands might work, but the old
style rolls with pockets formed by stitches separating them. Make it
out of old oilcloth, if you can find it, otherwise perhaps with the tarp
materials which are now available. Perhaps add some tough cloth along
the bottom of each groove to reinforce the stitches.

This assumes that you have a sewing machine.

Yeah, that I think I might be able to find easier.

OTOH - again with they make them do everything and then some, and
all I want is a straight stitch.

Does anyone have any idea why they stopped making these, and just
went to custom built injection molded containers with no room for
expansion?
It is easier to automate the production of the molded
containers, so it costs less to make them.

Probably. Of course, now you have a huge box taking up room on a
table / bench or drawer - and you cannot add anything to it. Like the
specialty drive bits needed for your job.

If I get the time machine working, I'm going back and buying up
bunches of the more practical rolls, tools and other goodies. Forget
the lottery - there's where the money is.
--
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"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 16:00:06 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:


On that line - I hate having black plastic or painted tools in a
black accessory bag, in the bottom of an oh so trendy black toolbag,
with another black case on top of it - and not enough light. (even if
it is mid day and I'm outside.)

For everything else, the elastic bands might work, but the old
style rolls with pockets formed by stitches separating them. Make it
out of old oilcloth, if you can find it, otherwise perhaps with the tarp
materials which are now available. Perhaps add some tough cloth along
the bottom of each groove to reinforce the stitches.

This assumes that you have a sewing machine.

Yeah, that I think I might be able to find easier.

OTOH - again with they make them do everything and then some, and
all I want is a straight stitch.

Does anyone have any idea why they stopped making these, and just
went to custom built injection molded containers with no room for
expansion?
It is easier to automate the production of the molded
containers, so it costs less to make them.

Probably. Of course, now you have a huge box taking up room on a
table / bench or drawer - and you cannot add anything to it. Like the
specialty drive bits needed for your job.

If I get the time machine working, I'm going back and buying up
bunches of the more practical rolls, tools and other goodies. Forget
the lottery - there's where the money is.
--
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https://sewing.patternreview.com/Sew...ns/topic/82065

https://www.banggood.com/72-Hole-Rol...p-1035704.html

Oddly..there are more rolls on the UK Ebay than the US one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/drill-bit-roll

http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/p...oll-28017.aspx

https://www.ergodyne.com/tool-storag...l-roll-up.html

https://www.google.com/search?q=tool...e=off&start=10


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Gunner Asch on Sun, 02 Jul 2017 19:00:17 -0700
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https://sewing.patternreview.com/Sew...ns/topic/82065

https://www.banggood.com/72-Hole-Rol...p-1035704.html

Oddly..there are more rolls on the UK Ebay than the US one

That is what really unplugged my heating pad.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/drill-bit-roll

http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/p...oll-28017.aspx

https://www.ergodyne.com/tool-storag...l-roll-up.html

https://www.google.com/search?q=tool...e=off&start=10

Thanks. Will look more closely later in the summer. After The
Project.
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"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 20:03:09 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner Asch on Sun, 02 Jul 2017 19:00:17 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:


https://sewing.patternreview.com/Sew...ns/topic/82065

https://www.banggood.com/72-Hole-Rol...p-1035704.html

Oddly..there are more rolls on the UK Ebay than the US one

That is what really unplugged my heating pad.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/drill-bit-roll

http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/p...oll-28017.aspx

https://www.ergodyne.com/tool-storag...l-roll-up.html

https://www.google.com/search?q=tool...e=off&start=10

Thanks. Will look more closely later in the summer. After The
Project.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."


Just pay some attention to the shipping, if buying from the UK. Some
of the dealers will NOT ship to the US. Ive bought a number of things
from the UK in the last couple years..mostly Whitworth tools and
Enfield motorcycle parts and had hell in a couple instances getting
them shipped to California.

I hunted around for an industrial grade sewing machine so I could
repair sails on the boats I fix up..and perhaps sewing your own might
be a better thing to do. Material is cheap enough. Heavy duty canvas
duck is surprisingly cheap if you hunt around a bit

Gunner

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On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 22:47:19 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 20:03:09 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner Asch on Sun, 02 Jul 2017 19:00:17 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:


https://sewing.patternreview.com/Sew...ns/topic/82065

https://www.banggood.com/72-Hole-Rol...p-1035704.html

Oddly..there are more rolls on the UK Ebay than the US one

That is what really unplugged my heating pad.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/drill-bit-roll

http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/p...oll-28017.aspx

https://www.ergodyne.com/tool-storag...l-roll-up.html

https://www.google.com/search?q=tool...e=off&start=10

Thanks. Will look more closely later in the summer. After The
Project.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."


Just pay some attention to the shipping, if buying from the UK. Some
of the dealers will NOT ship to the US. Ive bought a number of things

It can be pricy from there, too, but not like AU shipping costs.


from the UK in the last couple years..mostly Whitworth tools and
Enfield motorcycle parts and had hell in a couple instances getting
them shipped to California.

Shipped to or imported into the ROK? (CA, not Korea)


I hunted around for an industrial grade sewing machine so I could
repair sails on the boats I fix up..and perhaps sewing your own might
be a better thing to do. Material is cheap enough. Heavy duty canvas
duck is surprisingly cheap if you hunt around a bit

Ebay is (or was) a great low-priced source, for ducks, denims,
backpack nylon/1000 denier Cordura.

--
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for a President committed to keeping his promises means my
job is as simple as translating his words into numbers.
Mick Mulvaney, Director OMB on Trump

On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 12:21:22 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 22:47:19 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Jul 2017 20:03:09 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner Asch on Sun, 02 Jul 2017 19:00:17 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:


https://sewing.patternreview.com/Sew...ns/topic/82065

https://www.banggood.com/72-Hole-Rol...p-1035704.html

Oddly..there are more rolls on the UK Ebay than the US one

That is what really unplugged my heating pad.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/drill-bit-roll

http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/p...oll-28017.aspx

https://www.ergodyne.com/tool-storag...l-roll-up.html

https://www.google.com/search?q=tool...e=off&start=10

Thanks. Will look more closely later in the summer. After The
Project.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."


Just pay some attention to the shipping, if buying from the UK. Some
of the dealers will NOT ship to the US. Ive bought a number of things

It can be pricy from there, too, but not like AU shipping costs.


from the UK in the last couple years..mostly Whitworth tools and
Enfield motorcycle parts and had hell in a couple instances getting
them shipped to California.

Shipped to or imported into the ROK? (CA, not Korea)

Shipping from the UK was surprisingly not all that bad. I bought a
full set of King Dick (snicker) Whitworth end wrenches for $35 US and
shipping was only $12 as I recall and only took a week to get here.




I hunted around for an industrial grade sewing machine so I could
repair sails on the boats I fix up..and perhaps sewing your own might
be a better thing to do. Material is cheap enough. Heavy duty canvas
duck is surprisingly cheap if you hunt around a bit

Ebay is (or was) a great low-priced source, for ducks, denims,
backpack nylon/1000 denier Cordura.

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Gunner Asch on Sun, 02 Jul 2017 22:47:19 -0700
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I hunted around for an industrial grade sewing machine so I could
repair sails on the boats I fix up..and perhaps sewing your own might
be a better thing to do. Material is cheap enough. Heavy duty canvas
duck is surprisingly cheap if you hunt around a bit

Can also make a road trip to Janzen Beach. Lot of fabric using
companies there, so sometimes you can get finds. (I know a
"liturgical tailor" who scored a bunch of cordura in black. Just the
thing for 'work cassocks' for priests and deacons who wear one on
construction jobs. "Accidentally nailed it to the joist, just pulled
the nail - good as new." But I digress.)
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
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Gunner Asch on Sun, 02 Jul 2017
22:47:19 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

I hunted around for an industrial grade sewing machine so I could
repair sails on the boats I fix up..and perhaps sewing your own
might
be a better thing to do. Material is cheap enough. Heavy duty
canvas
duck is surprisingly cheap if you hunt around a bit

Can also make a road trip to Janzen Beach. Lot of fabric using
companies there, so sometimes you can get finds. (I know a
"liturgical tailor" who scored a bunch of cordura in black. Just
the
thing for 'work cassocks' for priests and deacons who wear one on
construction jobs. "Accidentally nailed it to the joist, just
pulled
the nail - good as new." But I digress.)
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

Melting the cut edges in a candle flame makes nylon much nicer to work
with.
-jsw

On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 17:57:53 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner Asch on Sun, 02 Jul 2017 22:47:19 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

I hunted around for an industrial grade sewing machine so I could
repair sails on the boats I fix up..and perhaps sewing your own might
be a better thing to do. Material is cheap enough. Heavy duty canvas
duck is surprisingly cheap if you hunt around a bit

Can also make a road trip to Janzen Beach. Lot of fabric using
companies there, so sometimes you can get finds. (I know a
"liturgical tailor" who scored a bunch of cordura in black. Just the
thing for 'work cassocks' for priests and deacons who wear one on
construction jobs. "Accidentally nailed it to the joist, just pulled
the nail - good as new." But I digress.)

snort I won't ask.

Long ago, I did a website for a lady who made liturgical vestments.
I had absolutely no idea they wore Cordura, nor that they were
laborers and carpenters.

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for a President committed to keeping his promises means my
job is as simple as translating his words into numbers.
Mick Mulvaney, Director OMB on Trump

Larry Jaques on Tue, 04 Jul 2017
06:12:28 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 17:57:53 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner Asch on Sun, 02 Jul 2017 22:47:19 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

I hunted around for an industrial grade sewing machine so I could
repair sails on the boats I fix up..and perhaps sewing your own might
be a better thing to do. Material is cheap enough. Heavy duty canvas
duck is surprisingly cheap if you hunt around a bit

Can also make a road trip to Janzen Beach. Lot of fabric using
companies there, so sometimes you can get finds. (I know a
"liturgical tailor" who scored a bunch of cordura in black. Just the
thing for 'work cassocks' for priests and deacons who wear one on
construction jobs. "Accidentally nailed it to the joist, just pulled
the nail - good as new." But I digress.)

snort I won't ask.

Long ago, I did a website for a lady who made liturgical vestments.
I had absolutely no idea they wore Cordura, nor that they were
laborers and carpenters.

Depends. Some Eastern Orthodox Deacons & Priest have side jobs to
pay the bills, especially if the parish is small or a mission. And
some prefer to wear the cassock all the time, so "I need a 'work'
cassock."
What was interesting was her story of trying to make a set of
vestments for an Army Chaplain - with neck holes which would fit over
his helmet. And in "subdued" colors. 8-) Managed.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

On 2017-07-02, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Many suggestions, thanks.

The pencil roll case is a good suggestion

Still I'm looking for something very much like this:
https://picclick.com/Ryobi-Roll-Up-Case-Masonry-Set-Drill-Bils-371922866298.html

If not this version, I have one like this - it works for me, I
want another to collect all the bits which don't "have a home" - or as
nice a place as this.

"DoN. Nichols" on 30 Jun 2017 03:09:33 GMT
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

[ ... ]

For everything else, the elastic bands might work, but the old
style rolls with pockets formed by stitches separating them. Make it
out of old oilcloth, if you can find it, otherwise perhaps with the tarp
materials which are now available. Perhaps add some tough cloth along
the bottom of each groove to reinforce the stitches.

This assumes that you have a sewing machine.

Yeah, that I think I might be able to find easier.

OTOH - again with they make them do everything and then some, and
all I want is a straight stitch.

I didn't suggest a *new* sewing machine. What I have is the
Singer 221 "Featherweight", which folds up to be quite small, and (by
itself) sews straight lines. There are accessories for various thing,
such as holding an edge folded twice for the stitching -- and even a
separate accessory which will do buttonholes. It happened to come with
mine from an antique dealer -- who normally sold antique clocks, but
happened to have this for sale after his wife passed on. I've used the
buttonhole attachment *once* -- to put red-lined buttonholes on the neck
button of a vampire cape. :-) The straight stitching I've used many
times. (And no, my wife does no sewing, so it is up to me. :-)

Does anyone have any idea why they stopped making these, and just
went to custom built injection molded containers with no room for
expansion?
It is easier to automate the production of the molded
containers, so it costs less to make them.

Probably. Of course, now you have a huge box taking up room on a
table / bench or drawer - and you cannot add anything to it. Like the
specialty drive bits needed for your job.

If I get the time machine working, I'm going back and buying up
bunches of the more practical rolls, tools and other goodies. Forget
the lottery - there's where the money is.

Let me know if you bring forward a load of such things. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols" on 4 Jul 2017 23:04:55 GMT
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This assumes that you have a sewing machine.

Yeah, that I think I might be able to find easier.

OTOH - again with they make them do everything and then some, and
all I want is a straight stitch.

I didn't suggest a *new* sewing machine. What I have is the
Singer 221 "Featherweight", which folds up to be quite small, and (by
itself) sews straight lines. There are accessories for various thing,
such as holding an edge folded twice for the stitching -- and even a
separate accessory which will do buttonholes. It happened to come with
mine from an antique dealer -- who normally sold antique clocks, but
happened to have this for sale after his wife passed on. I've used the
buttonhole attachment *once* -- to put red-lined buttonholes on the neck
button of a vampire cape. :-) The straight stitching I've used many
times. (And no, my wife does no sewing, so it is up to me. :-)

One of my regrets, was not grabbing Mom's sewing machine when she
passed on. A Singer, old as me, with cams for the fancy stitching.
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 20:24:12 -0700, pyotr filipivich
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"DoN. Nichols" on 4 Jul 2017 23:04:55 GMT
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

This assumes that you have a sewing machine.

Yeah, that I think I might be able to find easier.

OTOH - again with they make them do everything and then some, and
all I want is a straight stitch.

I didn't suggest a *new* sewing machine. What I have is the
Singer 221 "Featherweight", which folds up to be quite small, and (by
itself) sews straight lines. There are accessories for various thing,
such as holding an edge folded twice for the stitching -- and even a
separate accessory which will do buttonholes. It happened to come with
mine from an antique dealer -- who normally sold antique clocks, but
happened to have this for sale after his wife passed on. I've used the
buttonhole attachment *once* -- to put red-lined buttonholes on the neck
button of a vampire cape. :-) The straight stitching I've used many
times. (And no, my wife does no sewing, so it is up to me. :-)

One of my regrets, was not grabbing Mom's sewing machine when she
passed on. A Singer, old as me, with cams for the fancy stitching.
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Got that downstairs, if you want it come get it.

On 4 Jul 2017 23:04:55 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:

OTOH - again with they make them do everything and then some, and
all I want is a straight stitch.

I didn't suggest a *new* sewing machine. What I have is the
Singer 221 "Featherweight", which folds up to be quite small, and (by
itself) sews straight lines. There are accessories for various thing,
such as holding an edge folded twice for the stitching -- and even a
separate accessory which will do buttonholes. It happened to come with
mine from an antique dealer -- who normally sold antique clocks, but
happened to have this for sale after his wife passed on. I've used the
buttonhole attachment *once* -- to put red-lined buttonholes on the neck
button of a vampire cape. :-) The straight stitching I've used many
times. (And no, my wife does no sewing, so it is up to me. :-)


Hit Craigslist and look for Industrial Walking Foot Sewing Machines

Juki, Consew, Singer, Morse, to name a few of the GOOD machines.

Ebay has em...and occasionally you will find a good deal. I bought
and sold a dozen or more over the last 4 or so years..I think the most
I paid for one was $150 and sold it for $350 (without the table)


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sac...machine&_frs=1


Some random hits using www.searchtempest.com

https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/tls/6189558233.html

https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/tls/6158769214.html

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On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 22:18:11 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On 4 Jul 2017 23:04:55 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:

OTOH - again with they make them do everything and then some, and
all I want is a straight stitch.

I didn't suggest a *new* sewing machine. What I have is the
Singer 221 "Featherweight", which folds up to be quite small, and (by
itself) sews straight lines. There are accessories for various thing,
such as holding an edge folded twice for the stitching -- and even a
separate accessory which will do buttonholes. It happened to come with
mine from an antique dealer -- who normally sold antique clocks, but
happened to have this for sale after his wife passed on. I've used the
buttonhole attachment *once* -- to put red-lined buttonholes on the neck
button of a vampire cape. :-) The straight stitching I've used many
times. (And no, my wife does no sewing, so it is up to me. :-)


Hit Craigslist and look for Industrial Walking Foot Sewing Machines

Juki, Consew, Singer, Morse, to name a few of the GOOD machines.

Ebay has em...and occasionally you will find a good deal. I bought
and sold a dozen or more over the last 4 or so years..I think the most
I paid for one was $150 and sold it for $350 (without the table)

I paid $395 on barter (ITEX) for a Consew 210 with table. Great
little machine. The guy installed the slower motor for me since I
didn't need a 4k-stitch-per-minute machine. It's for sale in So
Oregon.

The Singer 111w Walking Foot cost me $135 with table. The manual says
it requires left twist thread, which manufacturers say doesn't exist.


And I found a Universal for $5 at a garage sale. It's just like the
Singers from the early 20th century.

--
The Federal budget is a complex document. However, working
for a President committed to keeping his promises means my
job is as simple as translating his words into numbers.
Mick Mulvaney, Director OMB on Trump

On Wed, 05 Jul 2017 06:43:08 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 22:18:11 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On 4 Jul 2017 23:04:55 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:

OTOH - again with they make them do everything and then some, and
all I want is a straight stitch.

I didn't suggest a *new* sewing machine. What I have is the
Singer 221 "Featherweight", which folds up to be quite small, and (by
itself) sews straight lines. There are accessories for various thing,
such as holding an edge folded twice for the stitching -- and even a
separate accessory which will do buttonholes. It happened to come with
mine from an antique dealer -- who normally sold antique clocks, but
happened to have this for sale after his wife passed on. I've used the
buttonhole attachment *once* -- to put red-lined buttonholes on the neck
button of a vampire cape. :-) The straight stitching I've used many
times. (And no, my wife does no sewing, so it is up to me. :-)


Hit Craigslist and look for Industrial Walking Foot Sewing Machines

Juki, Consew, Singer, Morse, to name a few of the GOOD machines.

Ebay has em...and occasionally you will find a good deal. I bought
and sold a dozen or more over the last 4 or so years..I think the most
I paid for one was $150 and sold it for $350 (without the table)

I paid $395 on barter (ITEX) for a Consew 210 with table. Great
little machine. The guy installed the slower motor for me since I
didn't need a 4k-stitch-per-minute machine. It's for sale in So
Oregon.

The Singer 111w Walking Foot cost me $135 with table. The manual says
it requires left twist thread, which manufacturers say doesn't exist.


And I found a Universal for $5 at a garage sale. It's just like the
Singers from the early 20th century.


Good machines all!!!

The Consew isnt a walking foot, is it?


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On Wed, 05 Jul 2017 14:20:46 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jul 2017 06:43:08 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:
I paid $395 on barter (ITEX) for a Consew 210 with table. Great
little machine. The guy installed the slower motor for me since I
didn't need a 4k-stitch-per-minute machine. It's for sale in So
Oregon.

The Singer 111w Walking Foot cost me $135 with table. The manual says
it requires left twist thread, which manufacturers say doesn't exist.


And I found a Universal for $5 at a garage sale. It's just like the
Singers from the early 20th century.


Good machines all!!!

The Consew isnt a walking foot, is it?

No. It handled 100+ laptop glare guards (1/8 foam, 2x 390d ripstop
nylon with urethane waterproof backing, glue, and 2 layers of nauga
binding), but I would have had a better go with a WF. That's why I
bought the Singer 111. I do miss the reverse on the Consew, though.

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