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Anybody here have press brake experience? I was to start with 3x3x.375
6061-T6 aluminum Tee extrusion, 4 inches long, and bend up the top of
the Tee on each side 30 degrees. So the part will then have a Y shape.
Can 6061-T6 be bent that much without cracking? And how much tonnage
should the press be to do this work?
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Eric
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Anybody here have press brake experience? I was to start with 3x3x.375
6061-T6 aluminum Tee extrusion, 4 inches long, and bend up the top of
the Tee on each side 30 degrees. So the part will then have a Y shape.
Can 6061-T6 be bent that much without cracking? And how much tonnage
should the press be to do this work?
Thanks,
Eric
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For flat sheet the minimum inside bend radius for 6061 is roughly equal to
the thickness for a 90 deg bend, without annealing, but for .375" thick
material I'd probably try to keep the inside radius at 0.5" or more, just
for safety. Nothing worse than bending a radius that you knew was too
tight, seeing some small surface cracking, telling yourself "it'll be fine,
I can barely see that", and then coming back the next day and seeing the
cracks go half way through :-). It also matters whether you are going with
the grain or perpendicular to it; with the grain is better. You will be
going with the grain and only going 30 deg so you might be able to get a bit
tighter than 0.375" inside radius. I assume you will make a die with a deep
slot to accommodate the bottom leg, and come down from the top on center
with the punch to basically make both bends at once, just like it was a
single bend in flat stock? I did a quick google search for bend force
calculators, and http://www.custompartnet.com/calculator/v-bending-force was
about the first hit and says you will need 6-12 tons to make the bend.

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Anybody here have press brake experience? I was to start with 3x3x.375
6061-T6 aluminum Tee extrusion, 4 inches long, and bend up... a Y shape.


T6 is HARD, not gonna bend well (will crack unless you have a BIG radius of bend).
Any extrusion in aluminum is straightened (in tension) and work-hardens somewhat.
A custom extrusion (or semicustom) might be an easier route. I've seen Y=shapes
for rail-riding glides.


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On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 11:31:12 -0700, wrote:

Anybody here have press brake experience? I was to start with 3x3x.375
6061-T6 aluminum Tee extrusion, 4 inches long, and bend up the top of
the Tee on each side 30 degrees. So the part will then have a Y shape.
Can 6061-T6 be bent that much without cracking? And how much tonnage
should the press be to do this work?
Thanks,
Eric


See
http://www.americanmachinetools.com/bend_radius.htm

If your .375 is the thickness of the flange than the bending radius is
going to be pretty large.

3" - .357 = ~1.32 available width and the recommended bend radius will
be in the neighborhood of 1 inch.

But why not try annealing a trial piece then bend it. If it doesn't
crack try a hard piece.
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