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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
"Jeff M" wrote in message ... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. |
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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP"
wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message m... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner |
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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message om... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner The incident took place in West Virginia. Not exactly Brookline or Chicago. Has little to do with the school's attitude toward hunting or gun rights. If the kid went to school with an ax on his shirt that might also be a problem. |
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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:45:42 -0400, "ATP"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message news:crCdnZjWSKSyWefMnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@giganews. com... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner The incident took place in West Virginia. Not exactly Brookline or Chicago. Has little to do with the school's attitude toward hunting or gun rights. If the kid went to school with an ax on his shirt that might also be a problem. You do know that most schools are operated by the same people that make up the Hard Left NEA...right? Think that bit of buffoonery will work in Kansas for example? It doesnt work in every school..just the Leftwing controlled ones http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-586495.html In fact...its quite common for Lefties to hire lefties..and try to change the population of the area. Marx was big on this...So was Hitler. http://www.christianforums.com/t7736588/ http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...039/page/full/ http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...fession-2.html Teachers resignation letter: My profession no longer exists Posted by Valerie Strauss on April 6, 2013 at 4:00 am i-quitIncreasingly teachers are speaking out against school reforms that they believe are demeaning their profession, and some are simply quitting because they have had enough. Here is one resignation letter from a veteran teacher, Gerald J. Conti, a social studies teacher at Westhill High School in Syracuse, N.Y.: Mr. Casey Barduhn, Superintendent Westhill Central School District 400 Walberta Park Road Syracuse, New York 13219 Dear Mr. Barduhn and Board of Education Members: It is with the deepest regret that I must retire at the close of this school year, ending my more than twenty-seven years of service at Westhill on June 30, under the provisions of the 2012-15 contract. I assume that I will be eligible for any local or state incentives that may be offered prior to my date of actual retirement and I trust that I may return to the high school at some point as a substitute teacher. As with Lincoln and Springfield, I have grown from a young to an old man here; my brother died while we were both employed here; my daughter was educated here, and I have been touched by and hope that I have touched hundreds of lives in my time here. I know that I have been fortunate to work with a small core of some of the finest students and educators on the planet. I came to teaching forty years ago this month and have been lucky enough to work at a small liberal arts college, a major university and this superior secondary school. To me, history has been so very much more than a mere job, it has truly been my life, always driving my travel, guiding all of my reading and even dictating my television and movie viewing. Rarely have I engaged in any of these activities without an eye to my classroom and what I might employ in a lesson, a lecture or a presentation. With regard to my profession, I have truly attempted to live John Deweys famous quotation (now likely cliché with me, Ive used it so very often) that Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself. This type of total immersion is what I have always referred to as teaching heavy, working hard, spending time, researching, attending to details and never feeling satisfied that I knew enough on any topic. I now find that this approach to my profession is not only devalued, but denigrated and perhaps, in some quarters despised. STEM rules the day and data driven education seeks only conformity, standardization, testing and a zombie-like adherence to the shallow and generic Common Core, along with a lockstep of oversimplified so-called Essential Learnings. Creativity, academic freedom, teacher autonomy, experimentation and innovation are being stifled in a misguided effort to fix what is not broken in our system of public education and particularly not at Westhill. A long train of failures has brought us to this unfortunate pass. In their pursuit of Federal tax dollars, our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle. Finally, it is with sad reluctance that I say our own administration has been both uncommunicative and unresponsive to the concerns and needs of our staff and students by establishing testing and evaluation systems that are Byzantine at best and at worst, draconian. This situation has been exacerbated by other actions of the administration, in either refusing to call open forum meetings to discuss these pressing issues, or by so constraining the time limits of such meetings that little more than a conveying of information could take place. This lack of leadership at every level has only served to produce confusion, a loss of confidence and a dramatic and rapid decaying of morale. The repercussions of these ill-conceived policies will be telling and shall resound to the detriment of education for years to come. The analogy that this process is like building the airplane while we are flying would strike terror in the heart of anyone should it be applied to an actual airplane flight, a medical procedure, or even a home repair. Why should it be acceptable in our careers and in the education of our children? My profession is being demeaned by a pervasive atmosphere of distrust, dictating that teachers cannot be permitted to develop and administer their own quizzes and tests (now titled as generic assessments) or grade their own students examinations. The development of plans, choice of lessons and the materials to be employed are increasingly expected to be common to all teachers in a given subject. This approach not only strangles creativity, it smothers the development of critical thinking in our students and assumes a one-size-fits-all mentality more appropriate to the assembly line than to the classroom. Teacher planning time has also now been so greatly eroded by a constant need to prove up our worth to the tyranny of APPR (through the submission of plans, materials and artifacts from our teaching) that there is little time for us to carefully critique student work, engage in informal intellectual discussions with our students and colleagues, or conduct research and seek personal improvement through independent study. We have become increasingly evaluation and not knowledge driven. Process has become our most important product, to twist a phrase from corporate America, which seems doubly appropriate to this case. After writing all of this I realize that I am not leaving my profession, in truth, it has left me. It no longer exists. I feel as though I have played some game halfway through its fourth quarter, a timeout has been called, my teammates hands have all been tied, the goal posts moved, all previously scored points and honors expunged and all of the rules altered. For the last decade or so, I have had two signs hanging above the blackboard at the front of my classroom, they read, Words Matter and Ideas Matter. While I still believe these simple statements to be true, I dont feel that those currently driving public education have any inkling of what they mean. Sincerely and with regret, Gerald J. Conti Social Studies Department Leader Cc: Doreen Bronchetti, Lee Roscoe Gunner |
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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:45:42 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message news:crCdnZjWSKSyWefMnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@giganews .com... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner The incident took place in West Virginia. Not exactly Brookline or Chicago. Has little to do with the school's attitude toward hunting or gun rights. If the kid went to school with an ax on his shirt that might also be a problem. You do know that most schools are operated by the same people that make up the Hard Left NEA...right? Think that bit of buffoonery will work in Kansas for example? It doesnt work in every school..just the Leftwing controlled ones http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-586495.html In fact...its quite common for Lefties to hire lefties..and try to change the population of the area. Marx was big on this...So was Hitler. http://www.christianforums.com/t7736588/ http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...039/page/full/ http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...fession-2.html Teacher's resignation letter: 'My profession . no longer exists' Posted by Valerie Strauss on April 6, 2013 at 4:00 am i-quitIncreasingly teachers are speaking out against school reforms that they believe are demeaning their profession, and some are simply quitting because they have had enough. Here is one resignation letter from a veteran teacher, Gerald J. Conti, a social studies teacher at Westhill High School in Syracuse, N.Y.: Mr. Casey Barduhn, Superintendent Westhill Central School District 400 Walberta Park Road Syracuse, New York 13219 Dear Mr. Barduhn and Board of Education Members: It is with the deepest regret that I must retire at the close of this school year, ending my more than twenty-seven years of service at Westhill on June 30, under the provisions of the 2012-15 contract. I assume that I will be eligible for any local or state incentives that may be offered prior to my date of actual retirement and I trust that I may return to the high school at some point as a substitute teacher. As with Lincoln and Springfield, I have grown from a young to an old man here; my brother died while we were both employed here; my daughter was educated here, and I have been touched by and hope that I have touched hundreds of lives in my time here. I know that I have been fortunate to work with a small core of some of the finest students and educators on the planet. I came to teaching forty years ago this month and have been lucky enough to work at a small liberal arts college, a major university and this superior secondary school. To me, history has been so very much more than a mere job, it has truly been my life, always driving my travel, guiding all of my reading and even dictating my television and movie viewing. Rarely have I engaged in any of these activities without an eye to my classroom and what I might employ in a lesson, a lecture or a presentation. With regard to my profession, I have truly attempted to live John Dewey's famous quotation (now likely clich with me, I've used it so very often) that "Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself." This type of total immersion is what I have always referred to as teaching "heavy," working hard, spending time, researching, attending to details and never feeling satisfied that I knew enough on any topic. I now find that this approach to my profession is not only devalued, but denigrated and perhaps, in some quarters despised. STEM rules the day and "data driven" education seeks only conformity, standardization, testing and a zombie-like adherence to the shallow and generic Common Core, along with a lockstep of oversimplified so-called Essential Learnings. Creativity, academic freedom, teacher autonomy, experimentation and innovation are being stifled in a misguided effort to fix what is not broken in our system of public education and particularly not at Westhill. A long train of failures has brought us to this unfortunate pass. In their pursuit of Federal tax dollars, our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle. Finally, it is with sad reluctance that I say our own administration has been both uncommunicative and unresponsive to the concerns and needs of our staff and students by establishing testing and evaluation systems that are Byzantine at best and at worst, draconian. This situation has been exacerbated by other actions of the administration, in either refusing to call open forum meetings to discuss these pressing issues, or by so constraining the time limits of such meetings that little more than a conveying of information could take place. This lack of leadership at every level has only served to produce confusion, a loss of confidence and a dramatic and rapid decaying of morale. The repercussions of these ill-conceived policies will be telling and shall resound to the detriment of education for years to come. The analogy that this process is like building the airplane while we are flying would strike terror in the heart of anyone should it be applied to an actual airplane flight, a medical procedure, or even a home repair. Why should it be acceptable in our careers and in the education of our children? My profession is being demeaned by a pervasive atmosphere of distrust, dictating that teachers cannot be permitted to develop and administer their own quizzes and tests (now titled as generic "assessments") or grade their own students' examinations. The development of plans, choice of lessons and the materials to be employed are increasingly expected to be common to all teachers in a given subject. This approach not only strangles creativity, it smothers the development of critical thinking in our students and assumes a one-size-fits-all mentality more appropriate to the assembly line than to the classroom. Teacher planning time has also now been so greatly eroded by a constant need to "prove up" our worth to the tyranny of APPR (through the submission of plans, materials and "artifacts" from our teaching) that there is little time for us to carefully critique student work, engage in informal intellectual discussions with our students and colleagues, or conduct research and seek personal improvement through independent study. We have become increasingly evaluation and not knowledge driven. Process has become our most important product, to twist a phrase from corporate America, which seems doubly appropriate to this case. After writing all of this I realize that I am not leaving my profession, in truth, it has left me. It no longer exists. I feel as though I have played some game halfway through its fourth quarter, a timeout has been called, my teammates' hands have all been tied, the goal posts moved, all previously scored points and honors expunged and all of the rules altered. For the last decade or so, I have had two signs hanging above the blackboard at the front of my classroom, they read, "Words Matter" and "Ideas Matter". While I still believe these simple statements to be true, I don't feel that those currently driving public education have any inkling of what they mean. Sincerely and with regret, Gerald J. Conti Social Studies Department Leader Cc: Doreen Bronchetti, Lee Roscoe Gunner Sounds like that teacher is a left wing union member, not the people who run the schools. Did you actually read his letter? |
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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:21:36 -0400, "ATP"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:45:42 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message news:crCdnZjWSKSyWefMnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@giganew s.com... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner The incident took place in West Virginia. Not exactly Brookline or Chicago. Has little to do with the school's attitude toward hunting or gun rights. If the kid went to school with an ax on his shirt that might also be a problem. You do know that most schools are operated by the same people that make up the Hard Left NEA...right? Think that bit of buffoonery will work in Kansas for example? It doesnt work in every school..just the Leftwing controlled ones http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-586495.html In fact...its quite common for Lefties to hire lefties..and try to change the population of the area. Marx was big on this...So was Hitler. http://www.christianforums.com/t7736588/ http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...039/page/full/ http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...fession-2.html Teacher's resignation letter: 'My profession . no longer exists' Posted by Valerie Strauss on April 6, 2013 at 4:00 am i-quitIncreasingly teachers are speaking out against school reforms that they believe are demeaning their profession, and some are simply quitting because they have had enough. Here is one resignation letter from a veteran teacher, Gerald J. Conti, a social studies teacher at Westhill High School in Syracuse, N.Y.: Mr. Casey Barduhn, Superintendent Westhill Central School District 400 Walberta Park Road Syracuse, New York 13219 Dear Mr. Barduhn and Board of Education Members: It is with the deepest regret that I must retire at the close of this school year, ending my more than twenty-seven years of service at Westhill on June 30, under the provisions of the 2012-15 contract. I assume that I will be eligible for any local or state incentives that may be offered prior to my date of actual retirement and I trust that I may return to the high school at some point as a substitute teacher. As with Lincoln and Springfield, I have grown from a young to an old man here; my brother died while we were both employed here; my daughter was educated here, and I have been touched by and hope that I have touched hundreds of lives in my time here. I know that I have been fortunate to work with a small core of some of the finest students and educators on the planet. I came to teaching forty years ago this month and have been lucky enough to work at a small liberal arts college, a major university and this superior secondary school. To me, history has been so very much more than a mere job, it has truly been my life, always driving my travel, guiding all of my reading and even dictating my television and movie viewing. Rarely have I engaged in any of these activities without an eye to my classroom and what I might employ in a lesson, a lecture or a presentation. With regard to my profession, I have truly attempted to live John Dewey's famous quotation (now likely cliché with me, I've used it so very often) that "Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself." This type of total immersion is what I have always referred to as teaching "heavy," working hard, spending time, researching, attending to details and never feeling satisfied that I knew enough on any topic. I now find that this approach to my profession is not only devalued, but denigrated and perhaps, in some quarters despised. STEM rules the day and "data driven" education seeks only conformity, standardization, testing and a zombie-like adherence to the shallow and generic Common Core, along with a lockstep of oversimplified so-called Essential Learnings. Creativity, academic freedom, teacher autonomy, experimentation and innovation are being stifled in a misguided effort to fix what is not broken in our system of public education and particularly not at Westhill. A long train of failures has brought us to this unfortunate pass. In their pursuit of Federal tax dollars, our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle. Finally, it is with sad reluctance that I say our own administration has been both uncommunicative and unresponsive to the concerns and needs of our staff and students by establishing testing and evaluation systems that are Byzantine at best and at worst, draconian. This situation has been exacerbated by other actions of the administration, in either refusing to call open forum meetings to discuss these pressing issues, or by so constraining the time limits of such meetings that little more than a conveying of information could take place. This lack of leadership at every level has only served to produce confusion, a loss of confidence and a dramatic and rapid decaying of morale. The repercussions of these ill-conceived policies will be telling and shall resound to the detriment of education for years to come. The analogy that this process is like building the airplane while we are flying would strike terror in the heart of anyone should it be applied to an actual airplane flight, a medical procedure, or even a home repair. Why should it be acceptable in our careers and in the education of our children? My profession is being demeaned by a pervasive atmosphere of distrust, dictating that teachers cannot be permitted to develop and administer their own quizzes and tests (now titled as generic "assessments") or grade their own students' examinations. The development of plans, choice of lessons and the materials to be employed are increasingly expected to be common to all teachers in a given subject. This approach not only strangles creativity, it smothers the development of critical thinking in our students and assumes a one-size-fits-all mentality more appropriate to the assembly line than to the classroom. Teacher planning time has also now been so greatly eroded by a constant need to "prove up" our worth to the tyranny of APPR (through the submission of plans, materials and "artifacts" from our teaching) that there is little time for us to carefully critique student work, engage in informal intellectual discussions with our students and colleagues, or conduct research and seek personal improvement through independent study. We have become increasingly evaluation and not knowledge driven. Process has become our most important product, to twist a phrase from corporate America, which seems doubly appropriate to this case. After writing all of this I realize that I am not leaving my profession, in truth, it has left me. It no longer exists. I feel as though I have played some game halfway through its fourth quarter, a timeout has been called, my teammates' hands have all been tied, the goal posts moved, all previously scored points and honors expunged and all of the rules altered. For the last decade or so, I have had two signs hanging above the blackboard at the front of my classroom, they read, "Words Matter" and "Ideas Matter". While I still believe these simple statements to be true, I don't feel that those currently driving public education have any inkling of what they mean. Sincerely and with regret, Gerald J. Conti Social Studies Department Leader Cc: Doreen Bronchetti, Lee Roscoe Gunner Sounds like that teacher is a left wing union member, not the people who run the schools. Did you actually read his letter? repeatedly before posting Its obvious he isnt a Lefty. Now with two signs totally contradictory to Leftwing sentiment. If he was a Lefty..they would have said "Feelings Matter" and "Feeling Good Matters" Gunner |
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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:21:36 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:45:42 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message m... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message news:crCdnZjWSKSyWefMnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@gigane ws.com... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner The incident took place in West Virginia. Not exactly Brookline or Chicago. Has little to do with the school's attitude toward hunting or gun rights. If the kid went to school with an ax on his shirt that might also be a problem. You do know that most schools are operated by the same people that make up the Hard Left NEA...right? Think that bit of buffoonery will work in Kansas for example? It doesnt work in every school..just the Leftwing controlled ones http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-586495.html In fact...its quite common for Lefties to hire lefties..and try to change the population of the area. Marx was big on this...So was Hitler. http://www.christianforums.com/t7736588/ http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...039/page/full/ http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...fession-2.html Teacher's resignation letter: 'My profession . no longer exists' Posted by Valerie Strauss on April 6, 2013 at 4:00 am i-quitIncreasingly teachers are speaking out against school reforms that they believe are demeaning their profession, and some are simply quitting because they have had enough. Here is one resignation letter from a veteran teacher, Gerald J. Conti, a social studies teacher at Westhill High School in Syracuse, N.Y.: Mr. Casey Barduhn, Superintendent Westhill Central School District 400 Walberta Park Road Syracuse, New York 13219 Dear Mr. Barduhn and Board of Education Members: It is with the deepest regret that I must retire at the close of this school year, ending my more than twenty-seven years of service at Westhill on June 30, under the provisions of the 2012-15 contract. I assume that I will be eligible for any local or state incentives that may be offered prior to my date of actual retirement and I trust that I may return to the high school at some point as a substitute teacher. As with Lincoln and Springfield, I have grown from a young to an old man here; my brother died while we were both employed here; my daughter was educated here, and I have been touched by and hope that I have touched hundreds of lives in my time here. I know that I have been fortunate to work with a small core of some of the finest students and educators on the planet. I came to teaching forty years ago this month and have been lucky enough to work at a small liberal arts college, a major university and this superior secondary school. To me, history has been so very much more than a mere job, it has truly been my life, always driving my travel, guiding all of my reading and even dictating my television and movie viewing. Rarely have I engaged in any of these activities without an eye to my classroom and what I might employ in a lesson, a lecture or a presentation. With regard to my profession, I have truly attempted to live John Dewey's famous quotation (now likely clich with me, I've used it so very often) that "Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself." This type of total immersion is what I have always referred to as teaching "heavy," working hard, spending time, researching, attending to details and never feeling satisfied that I knew enough on any topic. I now find that this approach to my profession is not only devalued, but denigrated and perhaps, in some quarters despised. STEM rules the day and "data driven" education seeks only conformity, standardization, testing and a zombie-like adherence to the shallow and generic Common Core, along with a lockstep of oversimplified so-called Essential Learnings. Creativity, academic freedom, teacher autonomy, experimentation and innovation are being stifled in a misguided effort to fix what is not broken in our system of public education and particularly not at Westhill. A long train of failures has brought us to this unfortunate pass. In their pursuit of Federal tax dollars, our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle. Finally, it is with sad reluctance that I say our own administration has been both uncommunicative and unresponsive to the concerns and needs of our staff and students by establishing testing and evaluation systems that are Byzantine at best and at worst, draconian. This situation has been exacerbated by other actions of the administration, in either refusing to call open forum meetings to discuss these pressing issues, or by so constraining the time limits of such meetings that little more than a conveying of information could take place. This lack of leadership at every level has only served to produce confusion, a loss of confidence and a dramatic and rapid decaying of morale. The repercussions of these ill-conceived policies will be telling and shall resound to the detriment of education for years to come. The analogy that this process is like building the airplane while we are flying would strike terror in the heart of anyone should it be applied to an actual airplane flight, a medical procedure, or even a home repair. Why should it be acceptable in our careers and in the education of our children? My profession is being demeaned by a pervasive atmosphere of distrust, dictating that teachers cannot be permitted to develop and administer their own quizzes and tests (now titled as generic "assessments") or grade their own students' examinations. The development of plans, choice of lessons and the materials to be employed are increasingly expected to be common to all teachers in a given subject. This approach not only strangles creativity, it smothers the development of critical thinking in our students and assumes a one-size-fits-all mentality more appropriate to the assembly line than to the classroom. Teacher planning time has also now been so greatly eroded by a constant need to "prove up" our worth to the tyranny of APPR (through the submission of plans, materials and "artifacts" from our teaching) that there is little time for us to carefully critique student work, engage in informal intellectual discussions with our students and colleagues, or conduct research and seek personal improvement through independent study. We have become increasingly evaluation and not knowledge driven. Process has become our most important product, to twist a phrase from corporate America, which seems doubly appropriate to this case. After writing all of this I realize that I am not leaving my profession, in truth, it has left me. It no longer exists. I feel as though I have played some game halfway through its fourth quarter, a timeout has been called, my teammates' hands have all been tied, the goal posts moved, all previously scored points and honors expunged and all of the rules altered. For the last decade or so, I have had two signs hanging above the blackboard at the front of my classroom, they read, "Words Matter" and "Ideas Matter". While I still believe these simple statements to be true, I don't feel that those currently driving public education have any inkling of what they mean. Sincerely and with regret, Gerald J. Conti Social Studies Department Leader Cc: Doreen Bronchetti, Lee Roscoe Gunner Sounds like that teacher is a left wing union member, not the people who run the schools. Did you actually read his letter? repeatedly before posting Its obvious he isnt a Lefty. Now with two signs totally contradictory to Leftwing sentiment. If he was a Lefty..they would have said "Feelings Matter" and "Feeling Good Matters" Gunner "our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle " most of the rest of the letter is a rant against various measures intended to hold teachers accountable. |
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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:23:21 -0400, "ATP"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:21:36 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:45:42 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message om... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message news:crCdnZjWSKSyWefMnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@gigan ews.com... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner The incident took place in West Virginia. Not exactly Brookline or Chicago. Has little to do with the school's attitude toward hunting or gun rights. If the kid went to school with an ax on his shirt that might also be a problem. You do know that most schools are operated by the same people that make up the Hard Left NEA...right? Think that bit of buffoonery will work in Kansas for example? It doesnt work in every school..just the Leftwing controlled ones http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-586495.html In fact...its quite common for Lefties to hire lefties..and try to change the population of the area. Marx was big on this...So was Hitler. http://www.christianforums.com/t7736588/ http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...039/page/full/ http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...fession-2.html Teacher's resignation letter: 'My profession . no longer exists' Posted by Valerie Strauss on April 6, 2013 at 4:00 am i-quitIncreasingly teachers are speaking out against school reforms that they believe are demeaning their profession, and some are simply quitting because they have had enough. Here is one resignation letter from a veteran teacher, Gerald J. Conti, a social studies teacher at Westhill High School in Syracuse, N.Y.: Mr. Casey Barduhn, Superintendent Westhill Central School District 400 Walberta Park Road Syracuse, New York 13219 Dear Mr. Barduhn and Board of Education Members: It is with the deepest regret that I must retire at the close of this school year, ending my more than twenty-seven years of service at Westhill on June 30, under the provisions of the 2012-15 contract. I assume that I will be eligible for any local or state incentives that may be offered prior to my date of actual retirement and I trust that I may return to the high school at some point as a substitute teacher. As with Lincoln and Springfield, I have grown from a young to an old man here; my brother died while we were both employed here; my daughter was educated here, and I have been touched by and hope that I have touched hundreds of lives in my time here. I know that I have been fortunate to work with a small core of some of the finest students and educators on the planet. I came to teaching forty years ago this month and have been lucky enough to work at a small liberal arts college, a major university and this superior secondary school. To me, history has been so very much more than a mere job, it has truly been my life, always driving my travel, guiding all of my reading and even dictating my television and movie viewing. Rarely have I engaged in any of these activities without an eye to my classroom and what I might employ in a lesson, a lecture or a presentation. With regard to my profession, I have truly attempted to live John Dewey's famous quotation (now likely cliché with me, I've used it so very often) that "Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself." This type of total immersion is what I have always referred to as teaching "heavy," working hard, spending time, researching, attending to details and never feeling satisfied that I knew enough on any topic. I now find that this approach to my profession is not only devalued, but denigrated and perhaps, in some quarters despised. STEM rules the day and "data driven" education seeks only conformity, standardization, testing and a zombie-like adherence to the shallow and generic Common Core, along with a lockstep of oversimplified so-called Essential Learnings. Creativity, academic freedom, teacher autonomy, experimentation and innovation are being stifled in a misguided effort to fix what is not broken in our system of public education and particularly not at Westhill. A long train of failures has brought us to this unfortunate pass. In their pursuit of Federal tax dollars, our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle. Finally, it is with sad reluctance that I say our own administration has been both uncommunicative and unresponsive to the concerns and needs of our staff and students by establishing testing and evaluation systems that are Byzantine at best and at worst, draconian. This situation has been exacerbated by other actions of the administration, in either refusing to call open forum meetings to discuss these pressing issues, or by so constraining the time limits of such meetings that little more than a conveying of information could take place. This lack of leadership at every level has only served to produce confusion, a loss of confidence and a dramatic and rapid decaying of morale. The repercussions of these ill-conceived policies will be telling and shall resound to the detriment of education for years to come. The analogy that this process is like building the airplane while we are flying would strike terror in the heart of anyone should it be applied to an actual airplane flight, a medical procedure, or even a home repair. Why should it be acceptable in our careers and in the education of our children? My profession is being demeaned by a pervasive atmosphere of distrust, dictating that teachers cannot be permitted to develop and administer their own quizzes and tests (now titled as generic "assessments") or grade their own students' examinations. The development of plans, choice of lessons and the materials to be employed are increasingly expected to be common to all teachers in a given subject. This approach not only strangles creativity, it smothers the development of critical thinking in our students and assumes a one-size-fits-all mentality more appropriate to the assembly line than to the classroom. Teacher planning time has also now been so greatly eroded by a constant need to "prove up" our worth to the tyranny of APPR (through the submission of plans, materials and "artifacts" from our teaching) that there is little time for us to carefully critique student work, engage in informal intellectual discussions with our students and colleagues, or conduct research and seek personal improvement through independent study. We have become increasingly evaluation and not knowledge driven. Process has become our most important product, to twist a phrase from corporate America, which seems doubly appropriate to this case. After writing all of this I realize that I am not leaving my profession, in truth, it has left me. It no longer exists. I feel as though I have played some game halfway through its fourth quarter, a timeout has been called, my teammates' hands have all been tied, the goal posts moved, all previously scored points and honors expunged and all of the rules altered. For the last decade or so, I have had two signs hanging above the blackboard at the front of my classroom, they read, "Words Matter" and "Ideas Matter". While I still believe these simple statements to be true, I don't feel that those currently driving public education have any inkling of what they mean. Sincerely and with regret, Gerald J. Conti Social Studies Department Leader Cc: Doreen Bronchetti, Lee Roscoe Gunner Sounds like that teacher is a left wing union member, not the people who run the schools. Did you actually read his letter? repeatedly before posting Its obvious he isnt a Lefty. Now with two signs totally contradictory to Leftwing sentiment. If he was a Lefty..they would have said "Feelings Matter" and "Feeling Good Matters" Gunner "our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle " most of the rest of the letter is a rant against various measures intended to hold teachers accountable. Accountble to whom..and to what? Thats the question..isnt it? Gunner |
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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:23:21 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:21:36 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message m... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:45:42 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message news:62don8d99u18pb4agvrpfhaitp8lmppp02@4ax. com... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message news:crCdnZjWSKSyWefMnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@giga news.com... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner The incident took place in West Virginia. Not exactly Brookline or Chicago. Has little to do with the school's attitude toward hunting or gun rights. If the kid went to school with an ax on his shirt that might also be a problem. You do know that most schools are operated by the same people that make up the Hard Left NEA...right? Think that bit of buffoonery will work in Kansas for example? It doesnt work in every school..just the Leftwing controlled ones http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-586495.html In fact...its quite common for Lefties to hire lefties..and try to change the population of the area. Marx was big on this...So was Hitler. http://www.christianforums.com/t7736588/ http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...039/page/full/ http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...fession-2.html Teacher's resignation letter: 'My profession . no longer exists' Posted by Valerie Strauss on April 6, 2013 at 4:00 am i-quitIncreasingly teachers are speaking out against school reforms that they believe are demeaning their profession, and some are simply quitting because they have had enough. Here is one resignation letter from a veteran teacher, Gerald J. Conti, a social studies teacher at Westhill High School in Syracuse, N.Y.: Mr. Casey Barduhn, Superintendent Westhill Central School District 400 Walberta Park Road Syracuse, New York 13219 Dear Mr. Barduhn and Board of Education Members: It is with the deepest regret that I must retire at the close of this school year, ending my more than twenty-seven years of service at Westhill on June 30, under the provisions of the 2012-15 contract. I assume that I will be eligible for any local or state incentives that may be offered prior to my date of actual retirement and I trust that I may return to the high school at some point as a substitute teacher. As with Lincoln and Springfield, I have grown from a young to an old man here; my brother died while we were both employed here; my daughter was educated here, and I have been touched by and hope that I have touched hundreds of lives in my time here. I know that I have been fortunate to work with a small core of some of the finest students and educators on the planet. I came to teaching forty years ago this month and have been lucky enough to work at a small liberal arts college, a major university and this superior secondary school. To me, history has been so very much more than a mere job, it has truly been my life, always driving my travel, guiding all of my reading and even dictating my television and movie viewing. Rarely have I engaged in any of these activities without an eye to my classroom and what I might employ in a lesson, a lecture or a presentation. With regard to my profession, I have truly attempted to live John Dewey's famous quotation (now likely clich with me, I've used it so very often) that "Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself." This type of total immersion is what I have always referred to as teaching "heavy," working hard, spending time, researching, attending to details and never feeling satisfied that I knew enough on any topic. I now find that this approach to my profession is not only devalued, but denigrated and perhaps, in some quarters despised. STEM rules the day and "data driven" education seeks only conformity, standardization, testing and a zombie-like adherence to the shallow and generic Common Core, along with a lockstep of oversimplified so-called Essential Learnings. Creativity, academic freedom, teacher autonomy, experimentation and innovation are being stifled in a misguided effort to fix what is not broken in our system of public education and particularly not at Westhill. A long train of failures has brought us to this unfortunate pass. In their pursuit of Federal tax dollars, our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle. Finally, it is with sad reluctance that I say our own administration has been both uncommunicative and unresponsive to the concerns and needs of our staff and students by establishing testing and evaluation systems that are Byzantine at best and at worst, draconian. This situation has been exacerbated by other actions of the administration, in either refusing to call open forum meetings to discuss these pressing issues, or by so constraining the time limits of such meetings that little more than a conveying of information could take place. This lack of leadership at every level has only served to produce confusion, a loss of confidence and a dramatic and rapid decaying of morale. The repercussions of these ill-conceived policies will be telling and shall resound to the detriment of education for years to come. The analogy that this process is like building the airplane while we are flying would strike terror in the heart of anyone should it be applied to an actual airplane flight, a medical procedure, or even a home repair. Why should it be acceptable in our careers and in the education of our children? My profession is being demeaned by a pervasive atmosphere of distrust, dictating that teachers cannot be permitted to develop and administer their own quizzes and tests (now titled as generic "assessments") or grade their own students' examinations. The development of plans, choice of lessons and the materials to be employed are increasingly expected to be common to all teachers in a given subject. This approach not only strangles creativity, it smothers the development of critical thinking in our students and assumes a one-size-fits-all mentality more appropriate to the assembly line than to the classroom. Teacher planning time has also now been so greatly eroded by a constant need to "prove up" our worth to the tyranny of APPR (through the submission of plans, materials and "artifacts" from our teaching) that there is little time for us to carefully critique student work, engage in informal intellectual discussions with our students and colleagues, or conduct research and seek personal improvement through independent study. We have become increasingly evaluation and not knowledge driven. Process has become our most important product, to twist a phrase from corporate America, which seems doubly appropriate to this case. After writing all of this I realize that I am not leaving my profession, in truth, it has left me. It no longer exists. I feel as though I have played some game halfway through its fourth quarter, a timeout has been called, my teammates' hands have all been tied, the goal posts moved, all previously scored points and honors expunged and all of the rules altered. For the last decade or so, I have had two signs hanging above the blackboard at the front of my classroom, they read, "Words Matter" and "Ideas Matter". While I still believe these simple statements to be true, I don't feel that those currently driving public education have any inkling of what they mean. Sincerely and with regret, Gerald J. Conti Social Studies Department Leader Cc: Doreen Bronchetti, Lee Roscoe Gunner Sounds like that teacher is a left wing union member, not the people who run the schools. Did you actually read his letter? repeatedly before posting Its obvious he isnt a Lefty. Now with two signs totally contradictory to Leftwing sentiment. If he was a Lefty..they would have said "Feelings Matter" and "Feeling Good Matters" Gunner "our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle " most of the rest of the letter is a rant against various measures intended to hold teachers accountable. Accountble to whom..and to what? Thats the question..isnt it? Gunner Accountable for teaching kids basic competency in Math, English, etc.. The APPR process he is attacking is a performance review system. This is all stuff that the gambler William Bennett has been pushing for years. |
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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:21:36 -0400, "ATP"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:45:42 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message news:crCdnZjWSKSyWefMnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@giganew s.com... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner The incident took place in West Virginia. Not exactly Brookline or Chicago. Has little to do with the school's attitude toward hunting or gun rights. If the kid went to school with an ax on his shirt that might also be a problem. You do know that most schools are operated by the same people that make up the Hard Left NEA...right? Think that bit of buffoonery will work in Kansas for example? It doesnt work in every school..just the Leftwing controlled ones http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-586495.html In fact...its quite common for Lefties to hire lefties..and try to change the population of the area. Marx was big on this...So was Hitler. http://www.christianforums.com/t7736588/ http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...039/page/full/ http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...fession-2.html Teacher's resignation letter: 'My profession . no longer exists' Posted by Valerie Strauss on April 6, 2013 at 4:00 am i-quitIncreasingly teachers are speaking out against school reforms that they believe are demeaning their profession, and some are simply quitting because they have had enough. Here is one resignation letter from a veteran teacher, Gerald J. Conti, a social studies teacher at Westhill High School in Syracuse, N.Y.: Mr. Casey Barduhn, Superintendent Westhill Central School District 400 Walberta Park Road Syracuse, New York 13219 Dear Mr. Barduhn and Board of Education Members: It is with the deepest regret that I must retire at the close of this school year, ending my more than twenty-seven years of service at Westhill on June 30, under the provisions of the 2012-15 contract. I assume that I will be eligible for any local or state incentives that may be offered prior to my date of actual retirement and I trust that I may return to the high school at some point as a substitute teacher. As with Lincoln and Springfield, I have grown from a young to an old man here; my brother died while we were both employed here; my daughter was educated here, and I have been touched by and hope that I have touched hundreds of lives in my time here. I know that I have been fortunate to work with a small core of some of the finest students and educators on the planet. I came to teaching forty years ago this month and have been lucky enough to work at a small liberal arts college, a major university and this superior secondary school. To me, history has been so very much more than a mere job, it has truly been my life, always driving my travel, guiding all of my reading and even dictating my television and movie viewing. Rarely have I engaged in any of these activities without an eye to my classroom and what I might employ in a lesson, a lecture or a presentation. With regard to my profession, I have truly attempted to live John Dewey's famous quotation (now likely clich with me, I've used it so very often) that "Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself." This type of total immersion is what I have always referred to as teaching "heavy," working hard, spending time, researching, attending to details and never feeling satisfied that I knew enough on any topic. I now find that this approach to my profession is not only devalued, but denigrated and perhaps, in some quarters despised. STEM rules the day and "data driven" education seeks only conformity, standardization, testing and a zombie-like adherence to the shallow and generic Common Core, along with a lockstep of oversimplified so-called Essential Learnings. Creativity, academic freedom, teacher autonomy, experimentation and innovation are being stifled in a misguided effort to fix what is not broken in our system of public education and particularly not at Westhill. A long train of failures has brought us to this unfortunate pass. In their pursuit of Federal tax dollars, our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle. Finally, it is with sad reluctance that I say our own administration has been both uncommunicative and unresponsive to the concerns and needs of our staff and students by establishing testing and evaluation systems that are Byzantine at best and at worst, draconian. This situation has been exacerbated by other actions of the administration, in either refusing to call open forum meetings to discuss these pressing issues, or by so constraining the time limits of such meetings that little more than a conveying of information could take place. This lack of leadership at every level has only served to produce confusion, a loss of confidence and a dramatic and rapid decaying of morale. The repercussions of these ill-conceived policies will be telling and shall resound to the detriment of education for years to come. The analogy that this process is like building the airplane while we are flying would strike terror in the heart of anyone should it be applied to an actual airplane flight, a medical procedure, or even a home repair. Why should it be acceptable in our careers and in the education of our children? My profession is being demeaned by a pervasive atmosphere of distrust, dictating that teachers cannot be permitted to develop and administer their own quizzes and tests (now titled as generic "assessments") or grade their own students' examinations. The development of plans, choice of lessons and the materials to be employed are increasingly expected to be common to all teachers in a given subject. This approach not only strangles creativity, it smothers the development of critical thinking in our students and assumes a one-size-fits-all mentality more appropriate to the assembly line than to the classroom. Teacher planning time has also now been so greatly eroded by a constant need to "prove up" our worth to the tyranny of APPR (through the submission of plans, materials and "artifacts" from our teaching) that there is little time for us to carefully critique student work, engage in informal intellectual discussions with our students and colleagues, or conduct research and seek personal improvement through independent study. We have become increasingly evaluation and not knowledge driven. Process has become our most important product, to twist a phrase from corporate America, which seems doubly appropriate to this case. After writing all of this I realize that I am not leaving my profession, in truth, it has left me. It no longer exists. I feel as though I have played some game halfway through its fourth quarter, a timeout has been called, my teammates' hands have all been tied, the goal posts moved, all previously scored points and honors expunged and all of the rules altered. For the last decade or so, I have had two signs hanging above the blackboard at the front of my classroom, they read, "Words Matter" and "Ideas Matter". While I still believe these simple statements to be true, I don't feel that those currently driving public education have any inkling of what they mean. Sincerely and with regret, Gerald J. Conti Social Studies Department Leader Cc: Doreen Bronchetti, Lee Roscoe Gunner Sounds like that teacher is a left wing union member, not the people who run the schools. Did you actually read his letter? HAHAHAHAhahahoohoho gasp! Gunner? Read his cut-and-pastes? Is this a joke? d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
On Apr 27, 6:57*am, "ATP" wrote:
"Jeff M" wrote in message ... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. *I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Is this shirt any different than those gang colors some kids wear? TMT |
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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:25:50 -0400, "ATP"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:23:21 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:21:36 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message om... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:45:42 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message news:62don8d99u18pb4agvrpfhaitp8lmppp02@4ax .com... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message news:crCdnZjWSKSyWefMnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@gig anews.com... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner The incident took place in West Virginia. Not exactly Brookline or Chicago. Has little to do with the school's attitude toward hunting or gun rights. If the kid went to school with an ax on his shirt that might also be a problem. You do know that most schools are operated by the same people that make up the Hard Left NEA...right? Think that bit of buffoonery will work in Kansas for example? It doesnt work in every school..just the Leftwing controlled ones http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-586495.html In fact...its quite common for Lefties to hire lefties..and try to change the population of the area. Marx was big on this...So was Hitler. http://www.christianforums.com/t7736588/ http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...039/page/full/ http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...fession-2.html Teacher's resignation letter: 'My profession . no longer exists' Posted by Valerie Strauss on April 6, 2013 at 4:00 am i-quitIncreasingly teachers are speaking out against school reforms that they believe are demeaning their profession, and some are simply quitting because they have had enough. Here is one resignation letter from a veteran teacher, Gerald J. Conti, a social studies teacher at Westhill High School in Syracuse, N.Y.: Mr. Casey Barduhn, Superintendent Westhill Central School District 400 Walberta Park Road Syracuse, New York 13219 Dear Mr. Barduhn and Board of Education Members: It is with the deepest regret that I must retire at the close of this school year, ending my more than twenty-seven years of service at Westhill on June 30, under the provisions of the 2012-15 contract. I assume that I will be eligible for any local or state incentives that may be offered prior to my date of actual retirement and I trust that I may return to the high school at some point as a substitute teacher. As with Lincoln and Springfield, I have grown from a young to an old man here; my brother died while we were both employed here; my daughter was educated here, and I have been touched by and hope that I have touched hundreds of lives in my time here. I know that I have been fortunate to work with a small core of some of the finest students and educators on the planet. I came to teaching forty years ago this month and have been lucky enough to work at a small liberal arts college, a major university and this superior secondary school. To me, history has been so very much more than a mere job, it has truly been my life, always driving my travel, guiding all of my reading and even dictating my television and movie viewing. Rarely have I engaged in any of these activities without an eye to my classroom and what I might employ in a lesson, a lecture or a presentation. With regard to my profession, I have truly attempted to live John Dewey's famous quotation (now likely clich with me, I've used it so very often) that "Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself." This type of total immersion is what I have always referred to as teaching "heavy," working hard, spending time, researching, attending to details and never feeling satisfied that I knew enough on any topic. I now find that this approach to my profession is not only devalued, but denigrated and perhaps, in some quarters despised. STEM rules the day and "data driven" education seeks only conformity, standardization, testing and a zombie-like adherence to the shallow and generic Common Core, along with a lockstep of oversimplified so-called Essential Learnings. Creativity, academic freedom, teacher autonomy, experimentation and innovation are being stifled in a misguided effort to fix what is not broken in our system of public education and particularly not at Westhill. A long train of failures has brought us to this unfortunate pass. In their pursuit of Federal tax dollars, our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle. Finally, it is with sad reluctance that I say our own administration has been both uncommunicative and unresponsive to the concerns and needs of our staff and students by establishing testing and evaluation systems that are Byzantine at best and at worst, draconian. This situation has been exacerbated by other actions of the administration, in either refusing to call open forum meetings to discuss these pressing issues, or by so constraining the time limits of such meetings that little more than a conveying of information could take place. This lack of leadership at every level has only served to produce confusion, a loss of confidence and a dramatic and rapid decaying of morale. The repercussions of these ill-conceived policies will be telling and shall resound to the detriment of education for years to come. The analogy that this process is like building the airplane while we are flying would strike terror in the heart of anyone should it be applied to an actual airplane flight, a medical procedure, or even a home repair. Why should it be acceptable in our careers and in the education of our children? My profession is being demeaned by a pervasive atmosphere of distrust, dictating that teachers cannot be permitted to develop and administer their own quizzes and tests (now titled as generic "assessments") or grade their own students' examinations. The development of plans, choice of lessons and the materials to be employed are increasingly expected to be common to all teachers in a given subject. This approach not only strangles creativity, it smothers the development of critical thinking in our students and assumes a one-size-fits-all mentality more appropriate to the assembly line than to the classroom. Teacher planning time has also now been so greatly eroded by a constant need to "prove up" our worth to the tyranny of APPR (through the submission of plans, materials and "artifacts" from our teaching) that there is little time for us to carefully critique student work, engage in informal intellectual discussions with our students and colleagues, or conduct research and seek personal improvement through independent study. We have become increasingly evaluation and not knowledge driven. Process has become our most important product, to twist a phrase from corporate America, which seems doubly appropriate to this case. After writing all of this I realize that I am not leaving my profession, in truth, it has left me. It no longer exists. I feel as though I have played some game halfway through its fourth quarter, a timeout has been called, my teammates' hands have all been tied, the goal posts moved, all previously scored points and honors expunged and all of the rules altered. For the last decade or so, I have had two signs hanging above the blackboard at the front of my classroom, they read, "Words Matter" and "Ideas Matter". While I still believe these simple statements to be true, I don't feel that those currently driving public education have any inkling of what they mean. Sincerely and with regret, Gerald J. Conti Social Studies Department Leader Cc: Doreen Bronchetti, Lee Roscoe Gunner Sounds like that teacher is a left wing union member, not the people who run the schools. Did you actually read his letter? repeatedly before posting Its obvious he isnt a Lefty. Now with two signs totally contradictory to Leftwing sentiment. If he was a Lefty..they would have said "Feelings Matter" and "Feeling Good Matters" Gunner "our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle " most of the rest of the letter is a rant against various measures intended to hold teachers accountable. Accountble to whom..and to what? Thats the question..isnt it? Gunner Accountable for teaching kids basic competency in Math, English, etc.. The APPR process he is attacking is a performance review system. This is all stuff that the gambler William Bennett has been pushing for years. And the result is pretty much what that teacher describes -- robots, taught to the test. Did you know they don't teach geography as a subject anymore? It's not part of the "core curriculum." They slip in a little bit with social studies. So the college kid who's working as a substitute in a local school asks one of the teachers when they put Ohio next to Pennsylvania. I'll bet he's good at math, though.... -- Ed Huntress |
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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:25:50 -0400, "ATP"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:23:21 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:21:36 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message om... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:45:42 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message news:62don8d99u18pb4agvrpfhaitp8lmppp02@4ax .com... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message news:crCdnZjWSKSyWefMnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@gig anews.com... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner The incident took place in West Virginia. Not exactly Brookline or Chicago. Has little to do with the school's attitude toward hunting or gun rights. If the kid went to school with an ax on his shirt that might also be a problem. You do know that most schools are operated by the same people that make up the Hard Left NEA...right? Think that bit of buffoonery will work in Kansas for example? It doesnt work in every school..just the Leftwing controlled ones http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-586495.html In fact...its quite common for Lefties to hire lefties..and try to change the population of the area. Marx was big on this...So was Hitler. http://www.christianforums.com/t7736588/ http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...039/page/full/ http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...fession-2.html Teacher's resignation letter: 'My profession . no longer exists' Posted by Valerie Strauss on April 6, 2013 at 4:00 am i-quitIncreasingly teachers are speaking out against school reforms that they believe are demeaning their profession, and some are simply quitting because they have had enough. Here is one resignation letter from a veteran teacher, Gerald J. Conti, a social studies teacher at Westhill High School in Syracuse, N.Y.: Mr. Casey Barduhn, Superintendent Westhill Central School District 400 Walberta Park Road Syracuse, New York 13219 Dear Mr. Barduhn and Board of Education Members: It is with the deepest regret that I must retire at the close of this school year, ending my more than twenty-seven years of service at Westhill on June 30, under the provisions of the 2012-15 contract. I assume that I will be eligible for any local or state incentives that may be offered prior to my date of actual retirement and I trust that I may return to the high school at some point as a substitute teacher. As with Lincoln and Springfield, I have grown from a young to an old man here; my brother died while we were both employed here; my daughter was educated here, and I have been touched by and hope that I have touched hundreds of lives in my time here. I know that I have been fortunate to work with a small core of some of the finest students and educators on the planet. I came to teaching forty years ago this month and have been lucky enough to work at a small liberal arts college, a major university and this superior secondary school. To me, history has been so very much more than a mere job, it has truly been my life, always driving my travel, guiding all of my reading and even dictating my television and movie viewing. Rarely have I engaged in any of these activities without an eye to my classroom and what I might employ in a lesson, a lecture or a presentation. With regard to my profession, I have truly attempted to live John Dewey's famous quotation (now likely cliché with me, I've used it so very often) that "Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself." This type of total immersion is what I have always referred to as teaching "heavy," working hard, spending time, researching, attending to details and never feeling satisfied that I knew enough on any topic. I now find that this approach to my profession is not only devalued, but denigrated and perhaps, in some quarters despised. STEM rules the day and "data driven" education seeks only conformity, standardization, testing and a zombie-like adherence to the shallow and generic Common Core, along with a lockstep of oversimplified so-called Essential Learnings. Creativity, academic freedom, teacher autonomy, experimentation and innovation are being stifled in a misguided effort to fix what is not broken in our system of public education and particularly not at Westhill. A long train of failures has brought us to this unfortunate pass. In their pursuit of Federal tax dollars, our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle. Finally, it is with sad reluctance that I say our own administration has been both uncommunicative and unresponsive to the concerns and needs of our staff and students by establishing testing and evaluation systems that are Byzantine at best and at worst, draconian. This situation has been exacerbated by other actions of the administration, in either refusing to call open forum meetings to discuss these pressing issues, or by so constraining the time limits of such meetings that little more than a conveying of information could take place. This lack of leadership at every level has only served to produce confusion, a loss of confidence and a dramatic and rapid decaying of morale. The repercussions of these ill-conceived policies will be telling and shall resound to the detriment of education for years to come. The analogy that this process is like building the airplane while we are flying would strike terror in the heart of anyone should it be applied to an actual airplane flight, a medical procedure, or even a home repair. Why should it be acceptable in our careers and in the education of our children? My profession is being demeaned by a pervasive atmosphere of distrust, dictating that teachers cannot be permitted to develop and administer their own quizzes and tests (now titled as generic "assessments") or grade their own students' examinations. The development of plans, choice of lessons and the materials to be employed are increasingly expected to be common to all teachers in a given subject. This approach not only strangles creativity, it smothers the development of critical thinking in our students and assumes a one-size-fits-all mentality more appropriate to the assembly line than to the classroom. Teacher planning time has also now been so greatly eroded by a constant need to "prove up" our worth to the tyranny of APPR (through the submission of plans, materials and "artifacts" from our teaching) that there is little time for us to carefully critique student work, engage in informal intellectual discussions with our students and colleagues, or conduct research and seek personal improvement through independent study. We have become increasingly evaluation and not knowledge driven. Process has become our most important product, to twist a phrase from corporate America, which seems doubly appropriate to this case. After writing all of this I realize that I am not leaving my profession, in truth, it has left me. It no longer exists. I feel as though I have played some game halfway through its fourth quarter, a timeout has been called, my teammates' hands have all been tied, the goal posts moved, all previously scored points and honors expunged and all of the rules altered. For the last decade or so, I have had two signs hanging above the blackboard at the front of my classroom, they read, "Words Matter" and "Ideas Matter". While I still believe these simple statements to be true, I don't feel that those currently driving public education have any inkling of what they mean. Sincerely and with regret, Gerald J. Conti Social Studies Department Leader Cc: Doreen Bronchetti, Lee Roscoe Gunner Sounds like that teacher is a left wing union member, not the people who run the schools. Did you actually read his letter? repeatedly before posting Its obvious he isnt a Lefty. Now with two signs totally contradictory to Leftwing sentiment. If he was a Lefty..they would have said "Feelings Matter" and "Feeling Good Matters" Gunner "our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle " most of the rest of the letter is a rant against various measures intended to hold teachers accountable. Accountble to whom..and to what? Thats the question..isnt it? Gunner Accountable for teaching kids basic competency in Math, English, etc.. The APPR process he is attacking is a performance review system. This is all stuff that the gambler William Bennett has been pushing for years. Would that be like the ultimate results of the No Child Left Behind Act? http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2...res-violations http://www.propublica.org/article/am...ating-scandals http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/04/25/i...-how-to-cheat/ |
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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:25:50 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:23:21 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message m... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:21:36 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message news:fhhon850r5o93nsp0bq3kfoipv1q23vk6a@4ax. com... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:45:42 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message news:62don8d99u18pb4agvrpfhaitp8lmppp02@4a x.com... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message news:crCdnZjWSKSyWefMnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@gi ganews.com... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner The incident took place in West Virginia. Not exactly Brookline or Chicago. Has little to do with the school's attitude toward hunting or gun rights. If the kid went to school with an ax on his shirt that might also be a problem. You do know that most schools are operated by the same people that make up the Hard Left NEA...right? Think that bit of buffoonery will work in Kansas for example? It doesnt work in every school..just the Leftwing controlled ones http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-586495.html In fact...its quite common for Lefties to hire lefties..and try to change the population of the area. Marx was big on this...So was Hitler. http://www.christianforums.com/t7736588/ http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...039/page/full/ http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...fession-2.html Teacher's resignation letter: 'My profession . no longer exists' Posted by Valerie Strauss on April 6, 2013 at 4:00 am i-quitIncreasingly teachers are speaking out against school reforms that they believe are demeaning their profession, and some are simply quitting because they have had enough. Here is one resignation letter from a veteran teacher, Gerald J. Conti, a social studies teacher at Westhill High School in Syracuse, N.Y.: Mr. Casey Barduhn, Superintendent Westhill Central School District 400 Walberta Park Road Syracuse, New York 13219 Dear Mr. Barduhn and Board of Education Members: It is with the deepest regret that I must retire at the close of this school year, ending my more than twenty-seven years of service at Westhill on June 30, under the provisions of the 2012-15 contract. I assume that I will be eligible for any local or state incentives that may be offered prior to my date of actual retirement and I trust that I may return to the high school at some point as a substitute teacher. As with Lincoln and Springfield, I have grown from a young to an old man here; my brother died while we were both employed here; my daughter was educated here, and I have been touched by and hope that I have touched hundreds of lives in my time here. I know that I have been fortunate to work with a small core of some of the finest students and educators on the planet. I came to teaching forty years ago this month and have been lucky enough to work at a small liberal arts college, a major university and this superior secondary school. To me, history has been so very much more than a mere job, it has truly been my life, always driving my travel, guiding all of my reading and even dictating my television and movie viewing. Rarely have I engaged in any of these activities without an eye to my classroom and what I might employ in a lesson, a lecture or a presentation. With regard to my profession, I have truly attempted to live John Dewey's famous quotation (now likely clich with me, I've used it so very often) that "Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself." This type of total immersion is what I have always referred to as teaching "heavy," working hard, spending time, researching, attending to details and never feeling satisfied that I knew enough on any topic. I now find that this approach to my profession is not only devalued, but denigrated and perhaps, in some quarters despised. STEM rules the day and "data driven" education seeks only conformity, standardization, testing and a zombie-like adherence to the shallow and generic Common Core, along with a lockstep of oversimplified so-called Essential Learnings. Creativity, academic freedom, teacher autonomy, experimentation and innovation are being stifled in a misguided effort to fix what is not broken in our system of public education and particularly not at Westhill. A long train of failures has brought us to this unfortunate pass. In their pursuit of Federal tax dollars, our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle. Finally, it is with sad reluctance that I say our own administration has been both uncommunicative and unresponsive to the concerns and needs of our staff and students by establishing testing and evaluation systems that are Byzantine at best and at worst, draconian. This situation has been exacerbated by other actions of the administration, in either refusing to call open forum meetings to discuss these pressing issues, or by so constraining the time limits of such meetings that little more than a conveying of information could take place. This lack of leadership at every level has only served to produce confusion, a loss of confidence and a dramatic and rapid decaying of morale. The repercussions of these ill-conceived policies will be telling and shall resound to the detriment of education for years to come. The analogy that this process is like building the airplane while we are flying would strike terror in the heart of anyone should it be applied to an actual airplane flight, a medical procedure, or even a home repair. Why should it be acceptable in our careers and in the education of our children? My profession is being demeaned by a pervasive atmosphere of distrust, dictating that teachers cannot be permitted to develop and administer their own quizzes and tests (now titled as generic "assessments") or grade their own students' examinations. The development of plans, choice of lessons and the materials to be employed are increasingly expected to be common to all teachers in a given subject. This approach not only strangles creativity, it smothers the development of critical thinking in our students and assumes a one-size-fits-all mentality more appropriate to the assembly line than to the classroom. Teacher planning time has also now been so greatly eroded by a constant need to "prove up" our worth to the tyranny of APPR (through the submission of plans, materials and "artifacts" from our teaching) that there is little time for us to carefully critique student work, engage in informal intellectual discussions with our students and colleagues, or conduct research and seek personal improvement through independent study. We have become increasingly evaluation and not knowledge driven. Process has become our most important product, to twist a phrase from corporate America, which seems doubly appropriate to this case. After writing all of this I realize that I am not leaving my profession, in truth, it has left me. It no longer exists. I feel as though I have played some game halfway through its fourth quarter, a timeout has been called, my teammates' hands have all been tied, the goal posts moved, all previously scored points and honors expunged and all of the rules altered. For the last decade or so, I have had two signs hanging above the blackboard at the front of my classroom, they read, "Words Matter" and "Ideas Matter". While I still believe these simple statements to be true, I don't feel that those currently driving public education have any inkling of what they mean. Sincerely and with regret, Gerald J. Conti Social Studies Department Leader Cc: Doreen Bronchetti, Lee Roscoe Gunner Sounds like that teacher is a left wing union member, not the people who run the schools. Did you actually read his letter? repeatedly before posting Its obvious he isnt a Lefty. Now with two signs totally contradictory to Leftwing sentiment. If he was a Lefty..they would have said "Feelings Matter" and "Feeling Good Matters" Gunner "our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle " most of the rest of the letter is a rant against various measures intended to hold teachers accountable. Accountble to whom..and to what? Thats the question..isnt it? Gunner Accountable for teaching kids basic competency in Math, English, etc.. The APPR process he is attacking is a performance review system. This is all stuff that the gambler William Bennett has been pushing for years. Would that be like the ultimate results of the No Child Left Behind Act? http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2...res-violations http://www.propublica.org/article/am...ating-scandals http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/04/25/i...-how-to-cheat/ That would be a whole 'nother debate about whether it works or not. |
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Student arrested, suspended after argument with teacher over NRA shirt
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message news On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:25:50 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:23:21 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message m... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:21:36 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message news:fhhon850r5o93nsp0bq3kfoipv1q23vk6a@4ax. com... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:45:42 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message news:62don8d99u18pb4agvrpfhaitp8lmppp02@4a x.com... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message news:crCdnZjWSKSyWefMnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@gi ganews.com... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner The incident took place in West Virginia. Not exactly Brookline or Chicago. Has little to do with the school's attitude toward hunting or gun rights. If the kid went to school with an ax on his shirt that might also be a problem. You do know that most schools are operated by the same people that make up the Hard Left NEA...right? Think that bit of buffoonery will work in Kansas for example? It doesnt work in every school..just the Leftwing controlled ones http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-586495.html In fact...its quite common for Lefties to hire lefties..and try to change the population of the area. Marx was big on this...So was Hitler. http://www.christianforums.com/t7736588/ http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...039/page/full/ http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...fession-2.html Teacher's resignation letter: 'My profession . no longer exists' Posted by Valerie Strauss on April 6, 2013 at 4:00 am i-quitIncreasingly teachers are speaking out against school reforms that they believe are demeaning their profession, and some are simply quitting because they have had enough. Here is one resignation letter from a veteran teacher, Gerald J. Conti, a social studies teacher at Westhill High School in Syracuse, N.Y.: Mr. Casey Barduhn, Superintendent Westhill Central School District 400 Walberta Park Road Syracuse, New York 13219 Dear Mr. Barduhn and Board of Education Members: It is with the deepest regret that I must retire at the close of this school year, ending my more than twenty-seven years of service at Westhill on June 30, under the provisions of the 2012-15 contract. I assume that I will be eligible for any local or state incentives that may be offered prior to my date of actual retirement and I trust that I may return to the high school at some point as a substitute teacher. As with Lincoln and Springfield, I have grown from a young to an old man here; my brother died while we were both employed here; my daughter was educated here, and I have been touched by and hope that I have touched hundreds of lives in my time here. I know that I have been fortunate to work with a small core of some of the finest students and educators on the planet. I came to teaching forty years ago this month and have been lucky enough to work at a small liberal arts college, a major university and this superior secondary school. To me, history has been so very much more than a mere job, it has truly been my life, always driving my travel, guiding all of my reading and even dictating my television and movie viewing. Rarely have I engaged in any of these activities without an eye to my classroom and what I might employ in a lesson, a lecture or a presentation. With regard to my profession, I have truly attempted to live John Dewey's famous quotation (now likely clich with me, I've used it so very often) that "Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself." This type of total immersion is what I have always referred to as teaching "heavy," working hard, spending time, researching, attending to details and never feeling satisfied that I knew enough on any topic. I now find that this approach to my profession is not only devalued, but denigrated and perhaps, in some quarters despised. STEM rules the day and "data driven" education seeks only conformity, standardization, testing and a zombie-like adherence to the shallow and generic Common Core, along with a lockstep of oversimplified so-called Essential Learnings. Creativity, academic freedom, teacher autonomy, experimentation and innovation are being stifled in a misguided effort to fix what is not broken in our system of public education and particularly not at Westhill. A long train of failures has brought us to this unfortunate pass. In their pursuit of Federal tax dollars, our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle. Finally, it is with sad reluctance that I say our own administration has been both uncommunicative and unresponsive to the concerns and needs of our staff and students by establishing testing and evaluation systems that are Byzantine at best and at worst, draconian. This situation has been exacerbated by other actions of the administration, in either refusing to call open forum meetings to discuss these pressing issues, or by so constraining the time limits of such meetings that little more than a conveying of information could take place. This lack of leadership at every level has only served to produce confusion, a loss of confidence and a dramatic and rapid decaying of morale. The repercussions of these ill-conceived policies will be telling and shall resound to the detriment of education for years to come. The analogy that this process is like building the airplane while we are flying would strike terror in the heart of anyone should it be applied to an actual airplane flight, a medical procedure, or even a home repair. Why should it be acceptable in our careers and in the education of our children? My profession is being demeaned by a pervasive atmosphere of distrust, dictating that teachers cannot be permitted to develop and administer their own quizzes and tests (now titled as generic "assessments") or grade their own students' examinations. The development of plans, choice of lessons and the materials to be employed are increasingly expected to be common to all teachers in a given subject. This approach not only strangles creativity, it smothers the development of critical thinking in our students and assumes a one-size-fits-all mentality more appropriate to the assembly line than to the classroom. Teacher planning time has also now been so greatly eroded by a constant need to "prove up" our worth to the tyranny of APPR (through the submission of plans, materials and "artifacts" from our teaching) that there is little time for us to carefully critique student work, engage in informal intellectual discussions with our students and colleagues, or conduct research and seek personal improvement through independent study. We have become increasingly evaluation and not knowledge driven. Process has become our most important product, to twist a phrase from corporate America, which seems doubly appropriate to this case. After writing all of this I realize that I am not leaving my profession, in truth, it has left me. It no longer exists. I feel as though I have played some game halfway through its fourth quarter, a timeout has been called, my teammates' hands have all been tied, the goal posts moved, all previously scored points and honors expunged and all of the rules altered. For the last decade or so, I have had two signs hanging above the blackboard at the front of my classroom, they read, "Words Matter" and "Ideas Matter". While I still believe these simple statements to be true, I don't feel that those currently driving public education have any inkling of what they mean. Sincerely and with regret, Gerald J. Conti Social Studies Department Leader Cc: Doreen Bronchetti, Lee Roscoe Gunner Sounds like that teacher is a left wing union member, not the people who run the schools. Did you actually read his letter? repeatedly before posting Its obvious he isnt a Lefty. Now with two signs totally contradictory to Leftwing sentiment. If he was a Lefty..they would have said "Feelings Matter" and "Feeling Good Matters" Gunner "our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle " most of the rest of the letter is a rant against various measures intended to hold teachers accountable. Accountble to whom..and to what? Thats the question..isnt it? Gunner Accountable for teaching kids basic competency in Math, English, etc.. The APPR process he is attacking is a performance review system. This is all stuff that the gambler William Bennett has been pushing for years. And the result is pretty much what that teacher describes -- robots, taught to the test. Did you know they don't teach geography as a subject anymore? It's not part of the "core curriculum." They slip in a little bit with social studies. So the college kid who's working as a substitute in a local school asks one of the teachers when they put Ohio next to Pennsylvania. I'll bet he's good at math, though.... -- Ed Huntress Geography was never particularly stressed in NY while I was in school, it was always part of social studies. |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message news snippage ATP Accountable for teaching kids basic competency in Math, English, etc.. The APPR process he is attacking is a performance review system. This is all stuff that the gambler William Bennett has been pushing for years. And the result is pretty much what that teacher describes -- robots, taught to the test. Did you know they don't teach geography as a subject anymore? It's not part of the "core curriculum." They slip in a little bit with social studies. So the college kid who's working as a substitute in a local school asks one of the teachers when they put Ohio next to Pennsylvania. I'll bet he's good at math, though.... -- Ed Huntress Teaching to the test was never a problem for teachers of AP courses or (optional) Regents level classes. The problem now is that every kid has to take standardized tests- and I think we may be running up against the bell curve and a variety of home environment factors that are going to leave some children behind. For geography, how NYers see the rest of the country: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...9QEwAw&dur=549 |
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:03:28 -0400, "ATP"
wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message news On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:25:50 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:23:21 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message om... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:21:36 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message news:fhhon850r5o93nsp0bq3kfoipv1q23vk6a@4ax .com... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:45:42 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message news:62don8d99u18pb4agvrpfhaitp8lmppp02@4 ax.com... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message news:crCdnZjWSKSyWefMnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@g iganews.com... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner The incident took place in West Virginia. Not exactly Brookline or Chicago. Has little to do with the school's attitude toward hunting or gun rights. If the kid went to school with an ax on his shirt that might also be a problem. You do know that most schools are operated by the same people that make up the Hard Left NEA...right? Think that bit of buffoonery will work in Kansas for example? It doesnt work in every school..just the Leftwing controlled ones http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-586495.html In fact...its quite common for Lefties to hire lefties..and try to change the population of the area. Marx was big on this...So was Hitler. http://www.christianforums.com/t7736588/ http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...039/page/full/ http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...fession-2.html Teacher's resignation letter: 'My profession . no longer exists' Posted by Valerie Strauss on April 6, 2013 at 4:00 am i-quitIncreasingly teachers are speaking out against school reforms that they believe are demeaning their profession, and some are simply quitting because they have had enough. Here is one resignation letter from a veteran teacher, Gerald J. Conti, a social studies teacher at Westhill High School in Syracuse, N.Y.: Mr. Casey Barduhn, Superintendent Westhill Central School District 400 Walberta Park Road Syracuse, New York 13219 Dear Mr. Barduhn and Board of Education Members: It is with the deepest regret that I must retire at the close of this school year, ending my more than twenty-seven years of service at Westhill on June 30, under the provisions of the 2012-15 contract. I assume that I will be eligible for any local or state incentives that may be offered prior to my date of actual retirement and I trust that I may return to the high school at some point as a substitute teacher. As with Lincoln and Springfield, I have grown from a young to an old man here; my brother died while we were both employed here; my daughter was educated here, and I have been touched by and hope that I have touched hundreds of lives in my time here. I know that I have been fortunate to work with a small core of some of the finest students and educators on the planet. I came to teaching forty years ago this month and have been lucky enough to work at a small liberal arts college, a major university and this superior secondary school. To me, history has been so very much more than a mere job, it has truly been my life, always driving my travel, guiding all of my reading and even dictating my television and movie viewing. Rarely have I engaged in any of these activities without an eye to my classroom and what I might employ in a lesson, a lecture or a presentation. With regard to my profession, I have truly attempted to live John Dewey's famous quotation (now likely clich with me, I've used it so very often) that "Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself." This type of total immersion is what I have always referred to as teaching "heavy," working hard, spending time, researching, attending to details and never feeling satisfied that I knew enough on any topic. I now find that this approach to my profession is not only devalued, but denigrated and perhaps, in some quarters despised. STEM rules the day and "data driven" education seeks only conformity, standardization, testing and a zombie-like adherence to the shallow and generic Common Core, along with a lockstep of oversimplified so-called Essential Learnings. Creativity, academic freedom, teacher autonomy, experimentation and innovation are being stifled in a misguided effort to fix what is not broken in our system of public education and particularly not at Westhill. A long train of failures has brought us to this unfortunate pass. In their pursuit of Federal tax dollars, our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle. Finally, it is with sad reluctance that I say our own administration has been both uncommunicative and unresponsive to the concerns and needs of our staff and students by establishing testing and evaluation systems that are Byzantine at best and at worst, draconian. This situation has been exacerbated by other actions of the administration, in either refusing to call open forum meetings to discuss these pressing issues, or by so constraining the time limits of such meetings that little more than a conveying of information could take place. This lack of leadership at every level has only served to produce confusion, a loss of confidence and a dramatic and rapid decaying of morale. The repercussions of these ill-conceived policies will be telling and shall resound to the detriment of education for years to come. The analogy that this process is like building the airplane while we are flying would strike terror in the heart of anyone should it be applied to an actual airplane flight, a medical procedure, or even a home repair. Why should it be acceptable in our careers and in the education of our children? My profession is being demeaned by a pervasive atmosphere of distrust, dictating that teachers cannot be permitted to develop and administer their own quizzes and tests (now titled as generic "assessments") or grade their own students' examinations. The development of plans, choice of lessons and the materials to be employed are increasingly expected to be common to all teachers in a given subject. This approach not only strangles creativity, it smothers the development of critical thinking in our students and assumes a one-size-fits-all mentality more appropriate to the assembly line than to the classroom. Teacher planning time has also now been so greatly eroded by a constant need to "prove up" our worth to the tyranny of APPR (through the submission of plans, materials and "artifacts" from our teaching) that there is little time for us to carefully critique student work, engage in informal intellectual discussions with our students and colleagues, or conduct research and seek personal improvement through independent study. We have become increasingly evaluation and not knowledge driven. Process has become our most important product, to twist a phrase from corporate America, which seems doubly appropriate to this case. After writing all of this I realize that I am not leaving my profession, in truth, it has left me. It no longer exists. I feel as though I have played some game halfway through its fourth quarter, a timeout has been called, my teammates' hands have all been tied, the goal posts moved, all previously scored points and honors expunged and all of the rules altered. For the last decade or so, I have had two signs hanging above the blackboard at the front of my classroom, they read, "Words Matter" and "Ideas Matter". While I still believe these simple statements to be true, I don't feel that those currently driving public education have any inkling of what they mean. Sincerely and with regret, Gerald J. Conti Social Studies Department Leader Cc: Doreen Bronchetti, Lee Roscoe Gunner Sounds like that teacher is a left wing union member, not the people who run the schools. Did you actually read his letter? repeatedly before posting Its obvious he isnt a Lefty. Now with two signs totally contradictory to Leftwing sentiment. If he was a Lefty..they would have said "Feelings Matter" and "Feeling Good Matters" Gunner "our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle " most of the rest of the letter is a rant against various measures intended to hold teachers accountable. Accountble to whom..and to what? Thats the question..isnt it? Gunner Accountable for teaching kids basic competency in Math, English, etc.. The APPR process he is attacking is a performance review system. This is all stuff that the gambler William Bennett has been pushing for years. And the result is pretty much what that teacher describes -- robots, taught to the test. Did you know they don't teach geography as a subject anymore? It's not part of the "core curriculum." They slip in a little bit with social studies. So the college kid who's working as a substitute in a local school asks one of the teachers when they put Ohio next to Pennsylvania. I'll bet he's good at math, though.... -- Ed Huntress Geography was never particularly stressed in NY while I was in school, it was always part of social studies. That has something to do, perhaps, with why most Americans don't even know where Afghanistan is. Or Ohio. g I attended school in NY and NJ, so I know what you mean. In contrast, in Maryland, where I also attended school, it was an important subject. Today, it's pathetic. We're producing a generation that knows how to take a test, but not much about what to do with it. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:54:02 -0400, "ATP"
wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message news snippage ATP Accountable for teaching kids basic competency in Math, English, etc.. The APPR process he is attacking is a performance review system. This is all stuff that the gambler William Bennett has been pushing for years. And the result is pretty much what that teacher describes -- robots, taught to the test. Did you know they don't teach geography as a subject anymore? It's not part of the "core curriculum." They slip in a little bit with social studies. So the college kid who's working as a substitute in a local school asks one of the teachers when they put Ohio next to Pennsylvania. I'll bet he's good at math, though.... -- Ed Huntress Teaching to the test was never a problem for teachers of AP courses or (optional) Regents level classes. The problem now is that every kid has to take standardized tests- and I think we may be running up against the bell curve and a variety of home environment factors that are going to leave some children behind. For geography, how NYers see the rest of the country: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...9QEwAw&dur=549 g This is the one we had framed on our wall in the art dept. at _American Machinist_, when it was located in Rockefeller Center: http://tinyurl.com/cyyxu8r -- Ed Huntress |
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On Apr 28, 8:54*am, "ATP" wrote:
Teaching to the test was never a problem for teachers of AP courses or (optional) Regents level classes. The problem now is that every kid has to take standardized tests- and I think we may be running up against the bell curve and a variety of home environment factors that are going to leave some children behind. Teaching to the test has never been a problem. The problem is that the test shows whether there has been any teaching at all. Dan |
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On 4/28/2013 11:25 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
Geography was never particularly stressed in NY while I was in school, it was always part of social studies. That has something to do, perhaps, with why most Americans don't even know where Afghanistan is. Or Ohio. g I attended school in NY and NJ, so I know what you mean. In contrast, in Maryland, where I also attended school, it was an important subject. Today, it's pathetic. We're producing a generation that knows how to take a test, but not much about what to do with it. My problem with the geography that I learned in grade school in the early '60's is that very little has the same name any more. South America is the same. British Honduras is Belize, Burma is Myanmar, Ceylon is Sri Lanka, and I've long since given up on keeping track of what is what in most of Africa. And I still can't find Grand Fenwick or Ruritania on maps. Although I'm fairly sure that Lilliput is just off the shore of Southern California. David |
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wrote in message ... On Apr 28, 8:54 am, "ATP" wrote: Teaching to the test was never a problem for teachers of AP courses or (optional) Regents level classes. The problem now is that every kid has to take standardized tests- and I think we may be running up against the bell curve and a variety of home environment factors that are going to leave some children behind. Teaching to the test has never been a problem. The problem is that the test shows whether there has been any teaching at all. Dan Well, there's always some teaching and somebody learning. But not every kid is going to be a scholar and every teacher is not going to "Stand and Deliver" calculus. |
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 07:47:25 -0400, "ATP"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:25:50 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:23:21 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message om... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:21:36 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message news:fhhon850r5o93nsp0bq3kfoipv1q23vk6a@4ax .com... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:45:42 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message news:62don8d99u18pb4agvrpfhaitp8lmppp02@4 ax.com... On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:57:05 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Jeff M" wrote in message news:crCdnZjWSKSyWefMnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@g iganews.com... On 4/26/2013 3:16 AM, Comrade Democrat wrote: A West Virginia eighth-grader student has been charged with causing a disruption at his middle school after he refused to remove an NRA T-shirt that he wore. The teenager was reportedly arrested and suspended last week after getting into an argument with his teacher about a National Rifle Association T-shirt he wore to school. WOWK-TV reports that Jared Marcum faces charges of obstruction and disturbing the education process for refusing to change the shirt, which shows a rifle and the slogan, "protect your right." Jared told the station the he was punished by officials at Logan Middle School after arguing about the shirt with his teacher, who reportedly objected to the image of the gun on the shirt. "What they're doing is trying to take away my rights, my freedom of speech and my Second Amendment," Jared told the station. Jared's father, Allen Lardieri, told WOWK-TV he is upset his son was briefly jailed for something he believes was blown out of proportion. "I don't see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a T-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri told the station. A Logan County School District official refused a request for comment from WOWK-TV, but police in Logan confirmed Jared's arrest last Thursday. On the first day of Jared's suspension, some of his friends reportedly wore shirts displaying images of firearms and at least one was told by an educator to change their attire, according to the report. Police charged him with disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, he said. "The only disturbance was caused by the teacher. He raised his voice," he said. A call to the Logan Police Department rang unanswered on Sunday and an automated message said the voice mail system was full. Lardieri said Marcum wore the shirt during five class periods before he was ordered to remove it. Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited. Their lawyer, Ben White, said that the T-shirt did not appear to violate any school policy. "I just don't understand why this teacher reacted the way he did," said White, who said he asked school officials to preserve surveillance video of the cafeteria. White said he planned to meet Monday with Principal Ernestine Sutherland. A message left Sunday at a phone listing for an Ernestine Sutherland in Logan wasn't immediately returned. White said schools can place restrictions on students to prevent disruptions, but can't take away their First Amendment right to free speech. "If a teacher is telling you to do something that's wrong, I don't think you should follow it. But I also don't think you need to do it in a disrespectful way," he said, adding that he does not think Marcum was disrespectful. White said he also wants to get the criminal charges dropped. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/21...edly-arrested- suspended-after-argument-over-nra-shirt/?intcmp=trending This kid is learning a valuable lesson in the arbitrary exercise of authority. I hope he keeps standing his ground and defending his rights. I don't know how this got to the point where the kid was arrested. But schools are allowed to restrict speech that might be disruptive. I think any shirt with a firearm, pro gun rights or not, would be a problem in the current environment. Not in most of the US it wouldnt. In fact..only in rabidly antigun places like Chicago etc etc would such a shirt cause problems. You do know that at least 50% of US schools take off the first day of deer season, right? Gunner The incident took place in West Virginia. Not exactly Brookline or Chicago. Has little to do with the school's attitude toward hunting or gun rights. If the kid went to school with an ax on his shirt that might also be a problem. You do know that most schools are operated by the same people that make up the Hard Left NEA...right? Think that bit of buffoonery will work in Kansas for example? It doesnt work in every school..just the Leftwing controlled ones http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-586495.html In fact...its quite common for Lefties to hire lefties..and try to change the population of the area. Marx was big on this...So was Hitler. http://www.christianforums.com/t7736588/ http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...039/page/full/ http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...fession-2.html Teacher's resignation letter: 'My profession . no longer exists' Posted by Valerie Strauss on April 6, 2013 at 4:00 am i-quitIncreasingly teachers are speaking out against school reforms that they believe are demeaning their profession, and some are simply quitting because they have had enough. Here is one resignation letter from a veteran teacher, Gerald J. Conti, a social studies teacher at Westhill High School in Syracuse, N.Y.: Mr. Casey Barduhn, Superintendent Westhill Central School District 400 Walberta Park Road Syracuse, New York 13219 Dear Mr. Barduhn and Board of Education Members: It is with the deepest regret that I must retire at the close of this school year, ending my more than twenty-seven years of service at Westhill on June 30, under the provisions of the 2012-15 contract. I assume that I will be eligible for any local or state incentives that may be offered prior to my date of actual retirement and I trust that I may return to the high school at some point as a substitute teacher. As with Lincoln and Springfield, I have grown from a young to an old man here; my brother died while we were both employed here; my daughter was educated here, and I have been touched by and hope that I have touched hundreds of lives in my time here. I know that I have been fortunate to work with a small core of some of the finest students and educators on the planet. I came to teaching forty years ago this month and have been lucky enough to work at a small liberal arts college, a major university and this superior secondary school. To me, history has been so very much more than a mere job, it has truly been my life, always driving my travel, guiding all of my reading and even dictating my television and movie viewing. Rarely have I engaged in any of these activities without an eye to my classroom and what I might employ in a lesson, a lecture or a presentation. With regard to my profession, I have truly attempted to live John Dewey's famous quotation (now likely cliché with me, I've used it so very often) that "Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself." This type of total immersion is what I have always referred to as teaching "heavy," working hard, spending time, researching, attending to details and never feeling satisfied that I knew enough on any topic. I now find that this approach to my profession is not only devalued, but denigrated and perhaps, in some quarters despised. STEM rules the day and "data driven" education seeks only conformity, standardization, testing and a zombie-like adherence to the shallow and generic Common Core, along with a lockstep of oversimplified so-called Essential Learnings. Creativity, academic freedom, teacher autonomy, experimentation and innovation are being stifled in a misguided effort to fix what is not broken in our system of public education and particularly not at Westhill. A long train of failures has brought us to this unfortunate pass. In their pursuit of Federal tax dollars, our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle. Finally, it is with sad reluctance that I say our own administration has been both uncommunicative and unresponsive to the concerns and needs of our staff and students by establishing testing and evaluation systems that are Byzantine at best and at worst, draconian. This situation has been exacerbated by other actions of the administration, in either refusing to call open forum meetings to discuss these pressing issues, or by so constraining the time limits of such meetings that little more than a conveying of information could take place. This lack of leadership at every level has only served to produce confusion, a loss of confidence and a dramatic and rapid decaying of morale. The repercussions of these ill-conceived policies will be telling and shall resound to the detriment of education for years to come. The analogy that this process is like building the airplane while we are flying would strike terror in the heart of anyone should it be applied to an actual airplane flight, a medical procedure, or even a home repair. Why should it be acceptable in our careers and in the education of our children? My profession is being demeaned by a pervasive atmosphere of distrust, dictating that teachers cannot be permitted to develop and administer their own quizzes and tests (now titled as generic "assessments") or grade their own students' examinations. The development of plans, choice of lessons and the materials to be employed are increasingly expected to be common to all teachers in a given subject. This approach not only strangles creativity, it smothers the development of critical thinking in our students and assumes a one-size-fits-all mentality more appropriate to the assembly line than to the classroom. Teacher planning time has also now been so greatly eroded by a constant need to "prove up" our worth to the tyranny of APPR (through the submission of plans, materials and "artifacts" from our teaching) that there is little time for us to carefully critique student work, engage in informal intellectual discussions with our students and colleagues, or conduct research and seek personal improvement through independent study. We have become increasingly evaluation and not knowledge driven. Process has become our most important product, to twist a phrase from corporate America, which seems doubly appropriate to this case. After writing all of this I realize that I am not leaving my profession, in truth, it has left me. It no longer exists. I feel as though I have played some game halfway through its fourth quarter, a timeout has been called, my teammates' hands have all been tied, the goal posts moved, all previously scored points and honors expunged and all of the rules altered. For the last decade or so, I have had two signs hanging above the blackboard at the front of my classroom, they read, "Words Matter" and "Ideas Matter". While I still believe these simple statements to be true, I don't feel that those currently driving public education have any inkling of what they mean. Sincerely and with regret, Gerald J. Conti Social Studies Department Leader Cc: Doreen Bronchetti, Lee Roscoe Gunner Sounds like that teacher is a left wing union member, not the people who run the schools. Did you actually read his letter? repeatedly before posting Its obvious he isnt a Lefty. Now with two signs totally contradictory to Leftwing sentiment. If he was a Lefty..they would have said "Feelings Matter" and "Feeling Good Matters" Gunner "our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle " most of the rest of the letter is a rant against various measures intended to hold teachers accountable. Accountble to whom..and to what? Thats the question..isnt it? Gunner Accountable for teaching kids basic competency in Math, English, etc.. The APPR process he is attacking is a performance review system. This is all stuff that the gambler William Bennett has been pushing for years. Would that be like the ultimate results of the No Child Left Behind Act? http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2...res-violations http://www.propublica.org/article/am...ating-scandals http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/04/25/i...-how-to-cheat/ That would be a whole 'nother debate about whether it works or not. Not according to that teacher. He..like the articles above..indicate that they certainly DONT work, when one has teachers willing to game the system. |
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:54:02 -0400, "ATP"
wrote: Teaching to the test was never a problem for teachers of AP courses or (optional) Regents level classes. The problem now is that every kid has to take standardized tests- and I think we may be running up against the bell curve and a variety of home environment factors that are going to leave some children behind. Thats called the Bell Curve for those of you in Rio Linda |
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 15:01:29 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:54:02 -0400, "ATP" wrote: Teaching to the test was never a problem for teachers of AP courses or (optional) Regents level classes. The problem now is that every kid has to take standardized tests- and I think we may be running up against the bell curve and a variety of home environment factors that are going to leave some children behind. Thats called the Bell Curve for those of you in Rio Linda The "No child left behind." concept has, in reality, turned into the "All children left behind." And when everyone is taught to the least common denominator, everyone loses. It's sad as Hell, mon. -- However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. -- Sir Winston Churchill |
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:45:59 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 15:01:29 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:54:02 -0400, "ATP" wrote: Teaching to the test was never a problem for teachers of AP courses or (optional) Regents level classes. The problem now is that every kid has to take standardized tests- and I think we may be running up against the bell curve and a variety of home environment factors that are going to leave some children behind. Thats called the Bell Curve for those of you in Rio Linda The "No child left behind." concept has, in reality, turned into the "All children left behind." And when everyone is taught to the least common denominator, everyone loses. It's sad as Hell, mon. And its largely because Leftwing supported teachers simply cannot be trusted to do their jobs properly. Sadly Gunner |
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:08:54 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:45:59 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 15:01:29 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:54:02 -0400, "ATP" wrote: Teaching to the test was never a problem for teachers of AP courses or (optional) Regents level classes. The problem now is that every kid has to take standardized tests- and I think we may be running up against the bell curve and a variety of home environment factors that are going to leave some children behind. Thats called the Bell Curve for those of you in Rio Linda The "No child left behind." concept has, in reality, turned into the "All children left behind." And when everyone is taught to the least common denominator, everyone loses. It's sad as Hell, mon. And its largely because Leftwing supported teachers simply cannot be trusted to do their jobs properly. That and uncaring parents, uncaring kids, falsely caring school admins... -- However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. -- Sir Winston Churchill |
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