Looking at the Husky 455 chain saw, called the rancher. Lots of sellers
have factory reconditioned goods. Or manufacturer refurbished. What
exactly are these? Returns? Buyers remorse? Just a lemon that wouldn't
run? How much hesitation is there to buying a chain saw that is factory
refurbished? Would you buy one, or go the extra hundred or so for new?

Steve

"Steve B" wrote in message
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Looking at the Husky 455 chain saw, called the rancher. Lots of sellers
have factory reconditioned goods. Or manufacturer refurbished. What
exactly are these? Returns? Buyers remorse? Just a lemon that wouldn't
run? How much hesitation is there to buying a chain saw that is factory
refurbished? Would you buy one, or go the extra hundred or so for new?

Steve

You are an idiot.

Gunner Asch fired this volley in
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Which is fairly common amongst the big box stores..tools, computer
equipment and so forth. I buy a lot of refurbished computer equipment
as
its been checked more than once. And made right.



Gunner, having been in that industry for 22 years, I can say, no...
that's not what refurbishing really is.

When a consumer item comes back for return, it goes right back to
distribution, but seldom back to the manufacturer's plant facility.

At distro, it's hooked up and powered on.

Honest -- if it makes it through a boot/powerup/run cycle (whatever's
appropriate for the equipment), it's tagged as "good", logged by serial
number (in case it shows up again), and re-packaged as "refurbished".

A very few scrupulous depots will let the equipment burn in for 24 hours.
In most, ONLY if a hard-bad problem shows up at initial power-on is any
attempt made whatsoever to repair the unit.

Most returns are due to buyer's remorse or stupidity on the part of the
buyer -- an inability to hook it up, or understand how to operate it.
But with most companies, any units with intermittent problems are going
right out into the marketplace again without anything done but applying a
"factory refurbished" sticker.

LLoyd

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Looking at the Husky 455 chain saw, called the rancher. Lots of
sellers have factory reconditioned goods. Or manufacturer
refurbished. What exactly are these? Returns? Buyers remorse?
Just a lemon that wouldn't run? How much hesitation is there to
buying a chain saw that is factory refurbished? Would you buy one,
or go the extra hundred or so for new?

Steve

My Husky 350 is owner-refurbished, several times. The starter and
clutch springs break too easily, the kill switch wiring failed, the
oiler-to-bar rubber seal went bad and a muffler gasket leak burned a
hole into the oil chamber, a $125 repair part. I plugged the hole with
Permatex and made a stainless steel heat shield instead. It's a good
saw -when it works-.

I installed the starter cord as instructed, so it pulls tight one turn
before the spring bottoms out, and I'm no big Swede. The broken spring
snaps without deforming and appears to be two laminated pieces that
break separately. I tempered a broken one to 520F but it still
shattered just as easily.

So I bought a Stihl as backup and the first time I loosened the bar
nuts one stud backed out. I had to saw a screwdriver slot in the end
to hold it to remove the nut.

I used a McCulloch 3216 for ~ten years without a hint of trouble,
until I loaned it to the landowner who let me cut firewood.

jsw

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in :

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Looking at the Husky 455 chain saw, called the rancher. Lots of
sellers have factory reconditioned goods. Or manufacturer
refurbished. What exactly are these? Returns? Buyers remorse?
Just a lemon that wouldn't run? How much hesitation is there to
buying a chain saw that is factory refurbished? Would you buy one,
or go the extra hundred or so for new?

Steve

My Husky 350 is owner-refurbished, several times. The starter and
clutch springs break too easily, the kill switch wiring failed, the
oiler-to-bar rubber seal went bad and a muffler gasket leak burned a
hole into the oil chamber, a $125 repair part. I plugged the hole with
Permatex and made a stainless steel heat shield instead. It's a good
saw -when it works-.

I installed the starter cord as instructed, so it pulls tight one turn
before the spring bottoms out, and I'm no big Swede. The broken spring
snaps without deforming and appears to be two laminated pieces that
break separately. I tempered a broken one to 520F but it still
shattered just as easily.

So I bought a Stihl as backup and the first time I loosened the bar
nuts one stud backed out. I had to saw a screwdriver slot in the end
to hold it to remove the nut.

I used a McCulloch 3216 for ~ten years without a hint of trouble,
until I loaned it to the landowner who let me cut firewood.

That can't possibly be true. After all, Husky and Stihl are the only chain saws worth buying,
and McCulloch is junk. Just ask Steve. He knows all about chain saws.

;-)

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
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"Jim Wilkins" wrote in
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I used a McCulloch 3216 for ~ten years without a hint of trouble,
until I loaned it to the landowner who let me cut firewood.

That can't possibly be true. After all, Husky and Stihl are the only
chain saws worth buying,
and McCulloch is junk. Just ask Steve. He knows all about chain
saws.

;-)

My McCulloch was nearly junk after one use by someone who should have
known better.

I've seen a number of Husky 350s in the hands of tree workers in
aerial buckets. They are lighter than the pro models and those guys
don't cut continuously. The engine has the low-speed torque to ease
into a tricky cut from idle, unlike my Stihl which bogs down at less
than full throttle.

With a freshly ground chain the 350 cuts bar-length dry oak at about
an inch a second, by estimation. I've watched a competition grind cut
at least twice as fast.

jsw

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
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"Jim Wilkins" wrote in
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"Steve B" wrote in message
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Looking at the Husky 455 chain saw, called the rancher. Lots of
sellers have factory reconditioned goods. Or manufacturer
refurbished. What exactly are these? Returns? Buyers remorse?
Just a lemon that wouldn't run? How much hesitation is there to
buying a chain saw that is factory refurbished? Would you buy one,
or go the extra hundred or so for new?

Steve

My Husky 350 is owner-refurbished, several times. The starter and
clutch springs break too easily, the kill switch wiring failed, the
oiler-to-bar rubber seal went bad and a muffler gasket leak burned a
hole into the oil chamber, a $125 repair part. I plugged the hole with
Permatex and made a stainless steel heat shield instead. It's a good
saw -when it works-.

I installed the starter cord as instructed, so it pulls tight one turn
before the spring bottoms out, and I'm no big Swede. The broken spring
snaps without deforming and appears to be two laminated pieces that
break separately. I tempered a broken one to 520F but it still
shattered just as easily.

So I bought a Stihl as backup and the first time I loosened the bar
nuts one stud backed out. I had to saw a screwdriver slot in the end
to hold it to remove the nut.

I used a McCulloch 3216 for ~ten years without a hint of trouble,
until I loaned it to the landowner who let me cut firewood.

That can't possibly be true. After all, Husky and Stihl are the only chain
saws worth buying,
and McCulloch is junk. Just ask Steve. He knows all about chain saws.

;-)

It's a moot point, as I do not recall having seen a McCulloch chain saw in a
store for sale in the last ten years.

Okay, I'm going to buy a large chain saw. My options are Stihl, Husky and
Mac. Which one do I buy?

Wait. Wait. I know the answer to this one ..............................

Steve

"Steve B" wrote in message
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Okay, I'm going to buy a large chain saw. My options are Stihl,
Husky and Mac. Which one do I buy?

Wait. Wait. I know the answer to this one
..............................

Steve

The one with the best local parts and repair support.

jsw

Okay, I'm going to buy a large chain saw. My options are Stihl, Husky and
Mac. Which one do I buy?

Wait. Wait. I know the answer to this one ..............................

Steve

Stihl has the best reputation of those you mention.

I guess the real question is how much do you plan to use it? A lot - buy a
Stihl. Once - then a cheap electric.

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...
"Steve B" wrote in message
...

Okay, I'm going to buy a large chain saw. My options are Stihl, Husky
and Mac. Which one do I buy?

Wait. Wait. I know the answer to this one
..............................

Steve

The one with the best local parts and repair support.

jsw

Well, that shoots the Mac down without firing a shot.

Steve

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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Okay, I'm going to buy a large chain saw. My options are Stihl, Husky
and Mac. Which one do I buy?

Wait. Wait. I know the answer to this one
..............................

Steve

Stihl has the best reputation of those you mention.

I guess the real question is how much do you plan to use it? A lot - buy
a Stihl. Once - then a cheap electric.

I will cut at least five cords a year, plus participate in doing up to 10
helping other people. Going tomorrow to split three cords we got Saturday.
The friends of mine who have Stihl love them, except a couple who find them
a little cranky to start some times. I just like the Huskys. Around here,
Stihl and Huskys are easy to find good repair shops, and spare parts. Local
suppliers similar to Tractor Supply in the south that cater to the ranchers
and farmers of the area.

Steve

Steve B wrote:



Okay, I'm going to buy a large chain saw. My options are Stihl, Husky and
Mac. Which one do I buy?

Wait. Wait. I know the answer to this one ..............................
There's a YouTube video of a V-8 chain saw, these two gorillas
DROP it on an 18" log and it goes through like it wasn't even there,
as if they'd dropped the saw on air! I'm guessing it is a Honda
or similar V8.

Jon

"Jon Elson" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:



Okay, I'm going to buy a large chain saw. My options are Stihl, Husky
and
Mac. Which one do I buy?

Wait. Wait. I know the answer to this one
..............................
There's a YouTube video of a V-8 chain saw, these two gorillas
DROP it on an 18" log and it goes through like it wasn't even there,
as if they'd dropped the saw on air! I'm guessing it is a Honda
or similar V8.

Jon

I've seen a video of an automated combo saw and splitter. Cuts off a
predetermined length, then pushes it through what looks like an apple
corer/sectioner, and 8 pieces of wood are spit out. Quite a neat thing,
totally easy to do, and would really have an output. Providing everything
was functioning properly, of course.

Steve

Steve B wrote:
"Jon Elson" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:


Okay, I'm going to buy a large chain saw. My options are Stihl, Husky
and
Mac. Which one do I buy?

Wait. Wait. I know the answer to this one
..............................
There's a YouTube video of a V-8 chain saw, these two gorillas
DROP it on an 18" log and it goes through like it wasn't even there,
as if they'd dropped the saw on air! I'm guessing it is a Honda
or similar V8.

Jon

I've seen a video of an automated combo saw and splitter. Cuts off a
predetermined length, then pushes it through what looks like an apple
corer/sectioner, and 8 pieces of wood are spit out. Quite a neat thing,
totally easy to do, and would really have an output. Providing everything
was functioning properly, of course.

Steve



Firewood processor. Fairly common in this area where folks are going
back to wood burners for heating.
I just wish they had a clue how to operate them before they try.....

--
Steve W.

"Steve W." wrote in message ...
Steve B wrote:
"Jon Elson" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:


Okay, I'm going to buy a large chain saw. My options are Stihl, Husky
and
Mac. Which one do I buy?

Wait. Wait. I know the answer to this one
..............................
There's a YouTube video of a V-8 chain saw, these two gorillas
DROP it on an 18" log and it goes through like it wasn't even there,
as if they'd dropped the saw on air! I'm guessing it is a Honda
or similar V8.

Jon

I've seen a video of an automated combo saw and splitter. Cuts off a
predetermined length, then pushes it through what looks like an apple
corer/sectioner, and 8 pieces of wood are spit out. Quite a neat thing,
totally easy to do, and would really have an output. Providing everything
was functioning properly, of course.

Steve



Firewood processor. Fairly common in this area where folks are going
back to wood burners for heating.
I just wish they had a clue how to operate them before they try.....


Burning properly seasoned wood is a good start