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What industrial air quick connects
We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air
piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks i |
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:45:27 -0500, Ignoramus29973
wrote: We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks i don't mess around, use mcmaster carr http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-qu...plings/=hvntjt |
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Ignoramus29973" wrote in message
... We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks i I have been using and am happy with Milton, i have some that are 40 years old and they still work great. They are not cheap but are worth the extra cost. Best Regards Tom. -- http://fija.org/ |
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@speranza.aioe.org: I have been using and am happy with Milton, i have some that are 40 years old and they still work great. They are not cheap but are worth the extra cost. But DO buy the brass ones, and in the "standard industrial" style. They'll fit almost everything that says it's compatible. OTOH, the cheap knock-offs often do not fit other fittings well. Lloyd |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message .70... "azotic" fired this volley in news:jqrciq$mpv$1 @speranza.aioe.org: I have been using and am happy with Milton, i have some that are 40 years old and they still work great. They are not cheap but are worth the extra cost. But DO buy the brass ones, and in the "standard industrial" style. They'll fit almost everything that says it's compatible. OTOH, the cheap knock-offs often do not fit other fittings well. Lloyd The brass ones are the way to go. You can get them wholesale in chicago at B.E. Atlas Co. Best Regards Tom. |
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"azotic" wrote in message
... Ignoramus29973" wrote in message ... We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks i I have been using and am happy with Milton, i have some that are 40 years old and they still work great. They are not cheap but are worth the extra cost. In my Dad's hardware store and later when I worked at Tool & Supply I sold literally thousands of the Milton quick couples in brass. (Probably more like tens of thousands). We had commercial and industrial customers who were as adamant about buying brass Milton couplers as other industrial customers were about only buying Lennox saw blades. We used to keep a handful of cheap steel couplers on hand for those people who were too cheap to buy the Miltons, but we didn't sell many. |
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On 2012-06-07, Ignoramus29973 wrote:
We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks Well ... from time to time, MSC puts out batches of them as sets in their sales flyers. Starting in the "Super Savers" flyer dated through 7/14/12 on the bottom left of page 45 is a three-piece set -- one female and two male for $5.99. One male and the female have a male pipe thread, and the other has a female pipe thread. All 1/4" NPT. At the top right of the same page are individual connectors, with price breaks at 10 and 50. Two different series, (ARO and "Industrial Interchange") and various choices of pipe thread on each, with different prices depending on the style and gender. The latter style is probably what you want. (BTW, I try to keep a separate coiled hose and connectors for oil-free applications like paint guns, and let the oil for the tools contaminate the coiled hoses with the more common style. The next page has "Industrial Interchange" all in brass, but without quantity pricing shown. These are various styles varying between pipe threads and barbs for raw connection to the hose. Then the "Maintenance and Repair" flyer (dated through 7/7/12) has (on page 34 at the bottom sets of five brass females with 1/4" male or female pipe threads "Industrial/Milton" type for $16.99 per set (of five) and steel plugs in sets of 10 for $9.99 for female pipe threads, or $8.99 for male pipe threads. This might be the place to go. Perhaps get three sets of five of the females so you have spares if they start to go bad, and how many sets of the males would depend on how many tools and hoses you need to connect to them. Of course there are other places, and likely some cheaper, but MSC is quick (one day delivery to me) and the price does not appear to be a killer. Good Luck, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On 6/7/2012 6:45 PM, Ignoramus29973 wrote:
We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks i What goes bad??? -the rubber seals! I made a punch and die and make a big batch of seals every five years or so. It takes about 3 minutes to replace the seals. There are a couple dozen in the drawer that are ready to go so they get switched with the leakers. Most of my connectors are over 40 years old. After closing, I'll walk around with a can of spray paint and mark the leakers. I have about 300 in the shop. I found that 1/8" silicone rubber sheet used for heat sealer trays works great, I just have it on hand, something else might work better. In any case, save your money! |
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:45:27 -0500, Ignoramus29973
wrote: We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks i Northerntool.com has a good selection of Milton, at reasonable $$$. I find the Type V high flow fittings work well on my air tools. Bob rgentry at oz dot net |
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Ignoramus29973 writes:
We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. Is it steel pipe? Or more bluntly; it's *not* PVC, is it? -- A host is a host from coast to & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 |
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On Jun 7, 4:45*pm, Ignoramus29973 ignoramus29...@NOSPAM.
29973.invalid wrote: We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks i There are at least 4 different and non-interchangeable pneumatic quick- connect systems out there, Milton makes them all. What they sell as the "M"-type is what I use, which is NOT what comes as a freebie end with cheapie-chink air tools. Most of the industrial surplus I've seen has had the Lincoln-type ends on it(MIlton's "L"-type), which has a long tubular stem with a locking bulge in the middle. When I started accumulating air tools, I got what the local hardware store had on the pegs, which was Milton and "M"-style. I don't think there's a whole lot of difference in performance among the various types, get what you can buy locally and easily. You don't want to have to wait on an order to be making up whips and attaching air tools when you're in production. One handy thing to have is Milton's multi- standard female connector attached to a short whip and a selection of different style male ends, can save the day when using somebody else's air tool(s) on a foreign air source. I think some of the factories use an obscure connector just to keep tools from walking. Stan |
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On 2012-06-08, David Lesher wrote:
Ignoramus29973 writes: We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. Is it steel pipe? Or more bluntly; it's *not* PVC, is it? Iggy *knows* better than that -- from reading here for years if not from other reasons. And this was a commercial installation -- pre existing his ownership of the building, and presumably subject to OSHA inspections. Enjoy, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On 2012-06-08, David Lesher wrote:
Ignoramus29973 writes: We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. Is it steel pipe? Or more bluntly; it's *not* PVC, is it? All steel pipe, 1/2 inch. Regarding fittings, we scrounged some good used Miltons, we will be using them. i |
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On 2012-06-08, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 6/7/2012 6:45 PM, Ignoramus29973 wrote: We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks i What goes bad??? -the rubber seals! I made a punch and die and make a big batch of seals every five years or so. It takes about 3 minutes to replace the seals. There are a couple dozen in the drawer that are ready to go so they get switched with the leakers. Most of my connectors are over 40 years old. After closing, I'll walk around with a can of spray paint and mark the leakers. I have about 300 in the shop. I found that 1/8" silicone rubber sheet used for heat sealer trays works great, I just have it on hand, something else might work better. In any case, save your money! Those leaks cost you a huge amount of money!!!!!!!!!!1 i |
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On 6/8/2012 10:24 PM, Ignoramus30438 wrote:
On 2012-06-08, Tom GardnerMars@Tacks wrote: On 6/7/2012 6:45 PM, Ignoramus29973 wrote: We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks i What goes bad??? -the rubber seals! I made a punch and die and make a big batch of seals every five years or so. It takes about 3 minutes to replace the seals. There are a couple dozen in the drawer that are ready to go so they get switched with the leakers. Most of my connectors are over 40 years old. After closing, I'll walk around with a can of spray paint and mark the leakers. I have about 300 in the shop. I found that 1/8" silicone rubber sheet used for heat sealer trays works great, I just have it on hand, something else might work better. In any case, save your money! Those leaks cost you a huge amount of money!!!!!!!!!!1 i It's a constant battle, like having a phantom employee. The fixtures get hit, bent, pulled, smashed and every other form of physical abuse. We just keep on top. Also, the Quincys slowly get carbon in their valves and work harder and harder. Every month we pull the HP exhaust and clean them. Air IS expensive but sure is handy! |
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On 2012-06-10, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 6/8/2012 10:24 PM, Ignoramus30438 wrote: On 2012-06-08, Tom GardnerMars@Tacks wrote: On 6/7/2012 6:45 PM, Ignoramus29973 wrote: We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks i What goes bad??? -the rubber seals! I made a punch and die and make a big batch of seals every five years or so. It takes about 3 minutes to replace the seals. There are a couple dozen in the drawer that are ready to go so they get switched with the leakers. Most of my connectors are over 40 years old. After closing, I'll walk around with a can of spray paint and mark the leakers. I have about 300 in the shop. I found that 1/8" silicone rubber sheet used for heat sealer trays works great, I just have it on hand, something else might work better. In any case, save your money! Those leaks cost you a huge amount of money!!!!!!!!!!1 i It's a constant battle, like having a phantom employee. The fixtures get hit, bent, pulled, smashed and every other form of physical abuse. We just keep on top. Also, the Quincys slowly get carbon in their valves and work harder and harder. Every month we pull the HP exhaust and clean them. Air IS expensive but sure is handy! I can sell you a 25 HP Palatek compressor with only 6k hours. Right now it is wired for 230, but can be easily converted to 460, I have the overload. i |
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On 2012-06-10, Ignoramus9564 wrote:
On 2012-06-10, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote: On 6/8/2012 10:24 PM, Ignoramus30438 wrote: On 2012-06-08, Tom GardnerMars@Tacks wrote: On 6/7/2012 6:45 PM, Ignoramus29973 wrote: We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks i What goes bad??? -the rubber seals! I made a punch and die and make a big batch of seals every five years or so. It takes about 3 minutes to replace the seals. There are a couple dozen in the drawer that are ready to go so they get switched with the leakers. Most of my connectors are over 40 years old. After closing, I'll walk around with a can of spray paint and mark the leakers. I have about 300 in the shop. I found that 1/8" silicone rubber sheet used for heat sealer trays works great, I just have it on hand, something else might work better. In any case, save your money! Those leaks cost you a huge amount of money!!!!!!!!!!1 i It's a constant battle, like having a phantom employee. The fixtures get hit, bent, pulled, smashed and every other form of physical abuse. We just keep on top. Also, the Quincys slowly get carbon in their valves and work harder and harder. Every month we pull the HP exhaust and clean them. Air IS expensive but sure is handy! I can sell you a 25 HP Palatek compressor with only 6k hours. That's a screw compressor with sound enclosure. Right now it is wired for 230, but can be easily converted to 460, I have the overload. i |
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On 2012-06-10, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 22:32:16 -0500, Ignoramus9564 wrote: On 2012-06-10, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote: On 6/8/2012 10:24 PM, Ignoramus30438 wrote: On 2012-06-08, Tom GardnerMars@Tacks wrote: On 6/7/2012 6:45 PM, Ignoramus29973 wrote: We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks i What goes bad??? -the rubber seals! I made a punch and die and make a big batch of seals every five years or so. It takes about 3 minutes to replace the seals. There are a couple dozen in the drawer that are ready to go so they get switched with the leakers. Most of my connectors are over 40 years old. After closing, I'll walk around with a can of spray paint and mark the leakers. I have about 300 in the shop. I found that 1/8" silicone rubber sheet used for heat sealer trays works great, I just have it on hand, something else might work better. In any case, save your money! Those leaks cost you a huge amount of money!!!!!!!!!!1 i It's a constant battle, like having a phantom employee. The fixtures get hit, bent, pulled, smashed and every other form of physical abuse. We just keep on top. Also, the Quincys slowly get carbon in their valves and work harder and harder. Every month we pull the HP exhaust and clean them. Air IS expensive but sure is handy! I can sell you a 25 HP Palatek compressor with only 6k hours. Right now it is wired for 230, but can be easily converted to 460, I have the overload. i Depending on the price..Tom may well consider this offer. Gunner, who just finished rebuilding a 10hp I/R ESP screw compressor What did the rebuilding involve? |
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Gunner Asch on Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:42:17 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: I charged the client $500 flat rate, so He has less than a grand in the compressor, from purchase to running his shop. My first screw compressor rebuild. Shrug Done a ton of piston types over the years. Hope it holds up. I told the cheap bas^^^ owners there was no warranty on the rebuild. Guaranteed not to rip, rot, rust, bust, mildew, mold or throw dust for thirty cycles or thirty seconds whichever comes first, provided the customer does not interfere with it. "It'snot working" "Did you turn it on? "Of course I turned it one!" "I told you not to interfere with it!" -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
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: provided the customer does not interfere with it. Ah... the pocket watch warrantee, again! G LLoyd |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com on Mon, 11 Jun
2012 14:58:57 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: pyotr filipivich fired this volley in : provided the customer does not interfere with it. Ah... the pocket watch warrantee, again! G It is such a good one, is it not? -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
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On 6/9/2012 11:32 PM, Ignoramus9564 wrote:
On 2012-06-10, Tom GardnerMars@Tacks wrote: On 6/8/2012 10:24 PM, Ignoramus30438 wrote: On 2012-06-08, Tom GardnerMars@Tacks wrote: On 6/7/2012 6:45 PM, Ignoramus29973 wrote: We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks i What goes bad??? -the rubber seals! I made a punch and die and make a big batch of seals every five years or so. It takes about 3 minutes to replace the seals. There are a couple dozen in the drawer that are ready to go so they get switched with the leakers. Most of my connectors are over 40 years old. After closing, I'll walk around with a can of spray paint and mark the leakers. I have about 300 in the shop. I found that 1/8" silicone rubber sheet used for heat sealer trays works great, I just have it on hand, something else might work better. In any case, save your money! Those leaks cost you a huge amount of money!!!!!!!!!!1 i It's a constant battle, like having a phantom employee. The fixtures get hit, bent, pulled, smashed and every other form of physical abuse.ry it all. We just keep on top. Also, the Quincys slowly get carbon in their valves and work harder and harder. Every month we pull the HP exhaust and clean them. Air IS expensive but sure is handy! I can sell you a 25 HP Palatek compressor with only 6k hours. Right now it is wired for 230, but can be easily converted to 460, I have the overload. i It only takes 10 hp to run the shop. Actually, the 7.5 hp Hydrovane will just carry it. Any time we have greater than a 50% duty cycle we get very serious about finding the issue. |
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On 2012-06-12, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:
On 6/9/2012 11:32 PM, Ignoramus9564 wrote: On 2012-06-10, Tom GardnerMars@Tacks wrote: On 6/8/2012 10:24 PM, Ignoramus30438 wrote: On 2012-06-08, Tom GardnerMars@Tacks wrote: On 6/7/2012 6:45 PM, Ignoramus29973 wrote: We have finally hooked up our air compressor to the existing air piping in my factory. The bad news is that the existing connectors are either missing, or old and leaking. I would like to replace them all with something new. I would need, say, a dozen of them and I wanted to get something that can last me for a while. I prefer "industrial type" connectors, where should I buy them, thanks i What goes bad??? -the rubber seals! I made a punch and die and make a big batch of seals every five years or so. It takes about 3 minutes to replace the seals. There are a couple dozen in the drawer that are ready to go so they get switched with the leakers. Most of my connectors are over 40 years old. After closing, I'll walk around with a can of spray paint and mark the leakers. I have about 300 in the shop. I found that 1/8" silicone rubber sheet used for heat sealer trays works great, I just have it on hand, something else might work better. In any case, save your money! Those leaks cost you a huge amount of money!!!!!!!!!!1 i It's a constant battle, like having a phantom employee. The fixtures get hit, bent, pulled, smashed and every other form of physical abuse.ry it all. We just keep on top. Also, the Quincys slowly get carbon in their valves and work harder and harder. Every month we pull the HP exhaust and clean them. Air IS expensive but sure is handy! I can sell you a 25 HP Palatek compressor with only 6k hours. Right now it is wired for 230, but can be easily converted to 460, I have the overload. i It only takes 10 hp to run the shop. Actually, the 7.5 hp Hydrovane will just carry it. Any time we have greater than a 50% duty cycle we get very serious about finding the issue. This is nice. We also have a 10HP Quincy QR-25. We just about finished to set up compressed air. We added an aftercooler from a scrapped tow behind compressor. We put it between the compressor and the air dryer, to improve efficiency of the dryer and to reduce costs. I had a panel of 110v fans that we put on that aftercooler. i |
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