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Please look at this pic:
http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/tripod.jpg At left center is a yoke and thick disk with a bolt clamp. The yoke and disk are grooved or racheted. I'd like to buy this component, if possible. What do you call it? Where might you get it? Karl |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:36:39 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: Please look at this pic: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/tripod.jpg At left center is a yoke and thick disk with a bolt clamp. The yoke and disk are grooved or racheted. I'd like to buy this component, if possible. What do you call it? Where might you get it? When I worked at Southcom, Int'l. in the early 1970s, we had them cast in OD-green polycarbonate for our manpack radios. Google "serrated positioner", or squawk at actual humans at McMaster for more info. -- Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt |
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Karl Townsend wrote: Please look at this pic: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/tripod.jpg At left center is a yoke and thick disk with a bolt clamp. The yoke and disk are grooved or racheted. I'd like to buy this component, if possible. What do you call it? Where might you get it? Karl It's a "crown gear" of sorts. I don't think you'll find it stock anywhere, but you can certainly make one on a Bridgeport with a dividing head. |
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"Karl Townsend" wrote in message ... Please look at this pic: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/tripod.jpg At left center is a yoke and thick disk with a bolt clamp. The yoke and disk are grooved or racheted. I'd like to buy this component, if possible. What do you call it? Where might you get it? Karl You might be able to make the detents by bonding or brazing serrated washers to other parts. http://www.amazon.com/Dia-Compe-Serr...PN4/ref=sr_1_2 or http://www.springmasters.com/disc-sp...y-washers.html |
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Karl Townsend wrote in
: Please look at this pic: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/tripod.jpg At left center is a yoke and thick disk with a bolt clamp. The yoke and disk are grooved or racheted. I'd like to buy this component, if possible. What do you call it? Where might you get it? I have a 5-axis milling work stop that uses a similar setup. They are cut like bevel gears, but flat, and with a triangular tooth geometry. Haven't a clue what they are called. I tried "indexing washer", but that didn't do it. For production quantities, I would think they'd have to be cut on a very special machine in the old days. They presumably could be done on a CNC setup nowadays. I find it hard to believe they made them integral to the yoke unless they stamped them. Doug White |
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On Oct 20, 9:36*pm, Karl Townsend
wrote: Please look at this pic:http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/tripod.jpg At left center is a yoke and thick disk with a bolt clamp. The yoke and disk are grooved or racheted. I'd like to buy this component, if possible. What do you call it? Where might you get it? Karl Serrated locking plates, may be overkill, but I also come up with Hirth tooth coupling/rosette, Hirth serration. http://www.jwwinco.com/products/section11/gn187/ http://www.berger-tools.co.uk/series...3&SeriesID=888 http://www.elesa-ganter.com/en/2/sp/...n-187.4-ni/eg/ (an example of it called a 'rosette') http://www.red.com/store/rail-compon...one-a-straight Dave |
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:56:45 GMT, Doug White
wrote: snip They are cut like bevel gears, but flat, and with a triangular tooth geometry. Haven't a clue what they are called. I tried "indexing washer", but that didn't do it. snip These are called Hirth couplings or joints. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirth_joint At one time widely used in built up crankshafts for high performance engines (motorcycles) and may still be. Among many other sites see http://www.amcprecision.com/v-tooth.htm http://www.voithturbo.com/hirth-coupling.htm http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=88618 no prices but looks like a spicy meatball... -- Unka' George "Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants, but debt is the money of slaves" -Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium" |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:36:39 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: Please look at this pic: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/tripod.jpg At left center is a yoke and thick disk with a bolt clamp. The yoke and disk are grooved or racheted. I'd like to buy this component, if possible. What do you call it? Where might you get it? Karl Thanks everybody. With these ideas and google, I came up with this offer: http://www.dougstampco.com/swashers.html Question2: How would you bond a 0.160 washer to a metal surface. See my first post for the application. Karl |
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Karl Townsend wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:36:39 -0500, Karl Townsend wrote: Please look at this pic: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/tripod.jpg At left center is a yoke and thick disk with a bolt clamp. The yoke and disk are grooved or racheted. I'd like to buy this component, if possible. What do you call it? Where might you get it? Karl Thanks everybody. With these ideas and google, I came up with this offer: http://www.dougstampco.com/swashers.html Question2: How would you bond a 0.160 washer to a metal surface. See my first post for the application. Karl Braze it, or something from Locktite or 3M. |
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:10:56 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:36:39 -0500, Karl Townsend wrote: Please look at this pic: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/tripod.jpg At left center is a yoke and thick disk with a bolt clamp. The yoke and disk are grooved or racheted. I'd like to buy this component, if possible. What do you call it? Where might you get it? Karl Thanks everybody. With these ideas and google, I came up with this offer: http://www.dougstampco.com/swashers.html Question2: How would you bond a 0.160 washer to a metal surface. See my first post for the application. Braze it on to a solid surface, or tack-weld the sides (inside and out, TIG or MIG), probably. -- Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt |
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"Karl Townsend" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:36:39 -0500, Karl Townsend wrote: Please look at this pic: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/tripod.jpg At left center is a yoke and thick disk with a bolt clamp. The yoke and disk are grooved or racheted. I'd like to buy this component, if possible. What do you call it? Where might you get it? Karl Thanks everybody. With these ideas and google, I came up with this offer: http://www.dougstampco.com/swashers.html Question2: How would you bond a 0.160 washer to a metal surface. See my first post for the application. Karl ================================================== ======== Since the washers are heat-treated, and probably plain-carbon steel, you don't want to apply more than 400 deg. F or so to them. A low-temp soft solder, applied very well in a heat-treating oven (or a kitchen oven) ought to give you the temperature control. If you tin the surfaces well and get good coverage, the 5,000+ psi shear strength of soft solder ought to hold you. Otherwise, epoxy with excellent technique -- scratch it in, and get it as close to 100% coverage as you can. You'll get maximum strength with about a 0.002" - 0.005" gap between the pieces. BTW, George's info on Hirth couplings is excellent, but keep in mind that there are many other couplings of the type, that are generically known as "face gears." Some have straight-sided teeth and some are curved, the most exotic being another patented one (Gleason), known as the Curvic Coupling. You don't need anything that exotic for this application. Any close-fitting face coupling that *takes up slack as it wears* (in other words, that has symmetrical teeth with angled sides or congruent curved sides) would do it. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Karl Townsend" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:36:39 -0500, Karl Townsend wrote: Please look at this pic: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/tripod.jpg At left center is a yoke and thick disk with a bolt clamp. The yoke and disk are grooved or racheted. I'd like to buy this component, if possible. What do you call it? Where might you get it? Karl Thanks everybody. With these ideas and google, I came up with this offer: http://www.dougstampco.com/swashers.html Question2: How would you bond a 0.160 washer to a metal surface. See my first post for the application. Karl That looks like the grooves are in a rectangular pattern rather than radial. If so , you would only be able to lock it at 90 deg. positions. Is that OK for you ? |
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:10:56 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:36:39 -0500, Karl Townsend wrote: Please look at this pic: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/tripod.jpg At left center is a yoke and thick disk with a bolt clamp. The yoke and disk are grooved or racheted. I'd like to buy this component, if possible. What do you call it? Where might you get it? Karl Thanks everybody. With these ideas and google, I came up with this offer: http://www.dougstampco.com/swashers.html Question2: How would you bond a 0.160 washer to a metal surface. See my first post for the application. Karl What am I missing here?? The original post picture appears to be using the "washer" to allow rotational 'indexing'. The Dougstamp swasher appears to be serrated like the checkering on a gun stock. How will this allow the same 'indexing'? IMWTK grin Bob rgentry at oz dot net |
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:18:16 -0700, Bob Gentry wrote:
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:10:56 -0500, Karl Townsend wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:36:39 -0500, Karl Townsend wrote: Please look at this pic: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/tripod.jpg At left center is a yoke and thick disk with a bolt clamp. The yoke and disk are grooved or racheted. I'd like to buy this component, if possible. What do you call it? Where might you get it? Karl Thanks everybody. With these ideas and google, I came up with this offer: http://www.dougstampco.com/swashers.html Question2: How would you bond a 0.160 washer to a metal surface. See my first post for the application. Karl What am I missing here?? The original post picture appears to be using the "washer" to allow rotational 'indexing'. The Dougstamp swasher appears to be serrated like the checkering on a gun stock. How will this allow the same 'indexing'? IMWTK grin Bob rgentry at oz dot net you're right, plus they are $7 each. So, we're still looking karl |
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"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:56:45 GMT, Doug White wrote: snip They are cut like bevel gears, but flat, and with a triangular tooth geometry. Haven't a clue what they are called. I tried "indexing washer", but that didn't do it. snip These are called Hirth couplings or joints. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirth_joint At one time widely used in built up crankshafts for high performance engines (motorcycles) and may still be. Jet turbines.... Among many other sites see http://www.amcprecision.com/v-tooth.htm http://www.voithturbo.com/hirth-coupling.htm http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=88618 no prices but looks like a spicy meatball... -- Unka' George "Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants, but debt is the money of slaves" -Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium" |
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:10:56 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:36:39 -0500, Karl Townsend wrote: Please look at this pic: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/tripod.jpg At left center is a yoke and thick disk with a bolt clamp. The yoke and disk are grooved or racheted. I'd like to buy this component, if possible. What do you call it? Where might you get it? Karl Thanks everybody. With these ideas and google, I came up with this offer: http://www.dougstampco.com/swashers.html Question2: How would you bond a 0.160 washer to a metal surface. See my first post for the application. Karl Spot weld in 3 places Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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