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I've just been replacing a lot of parts on the latest buggy, the new
front driveshaft U-joints have flush-type grease fittings on the
bearing cups. I've never encountered these before, they're small
countersunk cups with a check ball, nothing like a regular zerk. Not
flat like an Alemite fitting, either. Nobody seems to have the mating
nozzle for a grease gun, counter monkey at the parts place just gave a
shrug. Anybody know what's supposed to be used with these things and
where to get it? I can always use them like grease plugs, just
unscrew them and put in a regular zerk come time to regrease, but if I
could get the proper nozzle at a reasonable price, I'd go for it.
Google didn't turn up much besides the fittings and the data pages on
them just said to get a flush nozzle for the grease gun. Big help.

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I've just been replacing a lot of parts on the latest buggy, the new
front driveshaft U-joints have flush-type grease fittings on the
bearing cups. *I've never encountered these before, they're small
countersunk cups with a check ball, nothing like a regular zerk.
Stan


These fittings are found on German and Austrian machines. I came
across them on an EMCO lathe, and posted some info in the Metalworking
Dropbox.

http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/...e_fitting..txt

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How about www.mcmaster.com, look at part 1091K9 on page 2168, and at the
fittings on page 2175 to make sure the style matches yours (just put the
page or part # in the search box).

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I've just been replacing a lot of parts on the latest buggy, the new
front driveshaft U-joints have flush-type grease fittings on the
bearing cups. I've never encountered these before, they're small
countersunk cups with a check ball, nothing like a regular zerk. Not
flat like an Alemite fitting, either. Nobody seems to have the mating
nozzle for a grease gun, counter monkey at the parts place just gave a
shrug. Anybody know what's supposed to be used with these things and
where to get it? I can always use them like grease plugs, just
unscrew them and put in a regular zerk come time to regrease, but if I
could get the proper nozzle at a reasonable price, I'd go for it.
Google didn't turn up much besides the fittings and the data pages on
them just said to get a flush nozzle for the grease gun. Big help.

Stan


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I've just been replacing a lot of parts on the latest buggy, the new
front driveshaft U-joints have flush-type grease fittings on the
bearing cups. I've never encountered these before, they're small
countersunk cups with a check ball, nothing like a regular zerk. Not
flat like an Alemite fitting, either. Nobody seems to have the mating
nozzle for a grease gun, counter monkey at the parts place just gave a
shrug. Anybody know what's supposed to be used with these things and
where to get it? I can always use them like grease plugs, just
unscrew them and put in a regular zerk come time to regrease, but if I
could get the proper nozzle at a reasonable price, I'd go for it.
Google didn't turn up much besides the fittings and the data pages on
them just said to get a flush nozzle for the grease gun. Big help.

Stan


You don't need anything very special for that. Just a needle adapter
will do the trick. Like this one:

http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/...oductId=172655

Most any hardware store, borg... will carry these. It just snaps on to
your existing grease gun with the usual zerk fitting. The one I have is
Lubrimatic.

Snap the adapter on the end of your grease gun and then push the
needle end into the recessed fitting area. Push hard against the
fitting and grease away. Works a whole lot better than one would think
for just pushing it against the recessed fitting.

I've got those recessed fittings on my 4x4's front knuckles and in the
CV joint for the front drive shaft. There just isn't room enough for a
standard zerk fitting in there...

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On Sep 3, 3:09*pm, Leon Fisk wrote:
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 22:49:43 -0700 (PDT)

You don't need anything very special for that. Just a needle adapter
will do the trick. Like this one:

http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/...ProductDisplay...

Most any hardware store, borg... will carry these. It just snaps on to
your existing grease gun with the usual zerk fitting. The one I have is
Lubrimatic.

Snap the adapter on the end of your grease gun and then push the
needle end into the recessed fitting area. Push hard against the
fitting and grease away. Works a whole lot better than one would think
for just pushing it against the recessed fitting.

I've got those recessed fittings on my 4x4's front knuckles and in the
CV joint for the front drive shaft. There just isn't room enough for a
standard zerk fitting in there...

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Yeah, that's getting to be a problem with any vehicle these days. I
can remember when there was a whole lot of room between yokes on a
drive shaft and plenty of space for a regular grease gun. Got to make
everything smaller and lighter.

I've not had a lot of luck with needles for lube jobs, might be time
to look at what's out there again. Would still prefer the nozzle that
was designed for the job, though.

Stan


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How aboutwww.mcmaster.com, look at part 1091K9 on page 2168, and at the
fittings on page 2175 to make sure the style matches yours (just put the
page or part # in the search box).

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Looks like the item and the price is right. Probably shipping will
cost more than the nozzle. Also tempted to order a package of those
grease fitting covers they've got. Wonder if they'd fit brake bleeders
as well as zerks? Thanks for the link.

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On Sep 3, 3:09Â*pm, Leon Fisk wrote:
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 22:49:43 -0700 (PDT)

You don't need anything very special for that. Just a needle adapter
will do the trick. Like this one:

http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/...ProductDisplay...

Most any hardware store, borg... will carry these. It just snaps on to
your existing grease gun with the usual zerk fitting. The one I have is
Lubrimatic.

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Yeah, that's getting to be a problem with any vehicle these days. I
can remember when there was a whole lot of room between yokes on a
drive shaft and plenty of space for a regular grease gun. Got to make
everything smaller and lighter.

I've not had a lot of luck with needles for lube jobs, might be time
to look at what's out there again. Would still prefer the nozzle that
was designed for the job, though.


Far as I know Stan that adapter IS one of the proper nozzles for
servicing that type of grease fitting. I tried screwing it onto
a smallish grease gun originally. Figured I wouldn't be using it that
often and I would just dedicate that little grease gun to it. But... a
lot of grease will just ooze out with weather/temperature fluctuations
between uses. Gave up on that idea after a short time and cleaning up.

My truck is a 1982 Chevy. There just isn't enough room in the front
axle (Dana 44) U-joints for a regular fitting, ain't nothing
new...

This is like the one I have/use (Plews/Lubrimatic PLW05-025) :

http://www.tooltopia.com/plews_lubri...n=shopzilla_r1

You can take a look at the Plews/Lubrimatic Catalog here for a few more
options. They have one with what looks like a rubber tip that might
seal a bit better but I've not had any problem with 05-025 version. See
page 6:

http://plews-edelmann.com/downloads/...older=brochure

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On Sep 4, 3:29*pm, Leon Fisk wrote:

Far as I know Stan that adapter IS one of the proper nozzles for
servicing that type of grease fitting. I tried screwing it onto
a smallish grease gun originally. Figured I wouldn't be using it that
often and I would just dedicate that little grease gun to it. But... a
lot of grease will just ooze out with weather/temperature fluctuations
between uses. Gave up on that idea after a short time and cleaning up.

My truck is a 1982 Chevy. There just isn't enough room in the front
axle (Dana 44) U-joints for a regular fitting, ain't nothing
new...

This is like the one I have/use (Plews/Lubrimatic PLW05-025) :

http://www.tooltopia.com/plews_lubri...tm_source=shop....

You can take a look at the Plews/Lubrimatic Catalog here for a few more
options. They have one with what looks like a rubber tip that might
seal a bit better but I've not had any problem with 05-025 version. See
page 6:

http://plews-edelmann.com/downloads/...?file=90126_Pl....

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Did some further research over at MSC. The nozzle they sell has a
small ball end on it, which would make mating up with those flush cups
a lot easier. Also they say it's for a push-type grease gun, which
they also have. So that makes sense, you're pushing on the grease gun
that's pushing the ball into the cup to make the seal. Granddad had
one of those guns, my sister latched onto it when cleaning the place
out, though, and it went to recycling. The current cost for one is
over $100, ouch. So you're right, those fittings are nothing new,
were just seldom seen on cars post '20s or '30s, that's when he was a
mechanic.

Stan
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