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Or is it just this group?
Google is the only way I can access during the day, and I kinda like
it.
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Or is it just this group?
Google is the only way I can access during the day, and I kinda like
it.


Yup. The outage has been a big deal on rec.bicycles.tech
since July 30.

Thread: "Is Google Groups down for everybody else?"

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On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 20:53:38 -0700, Steve Ackman
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:31:15 -0700, Winston wrote:

The outage has been a big deal on rec.bicycles.tech since July 30.


I hope Google Groups is gone for good. I wonder
if I'm the only one.


If google groups is gone for good, there goes all search capabilities
for newsgroups in general. Gawd, I miss DejaVu...

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Steve Ackman wrote:
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:31:15 -0700, Winston wrote:

The outage has been a big deal on rec.bicycles.tech since July 30.


I hope Google Groups is gone for good. I wonder
if I'm the only one.


The execution was less than perfect, for sure.
We may never know the challenges they are up
against in repackaging USENET like that.

I'm concerned that without a powerful corporate
sponsor, USENET might continue it's decline.

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On Aug 9, 11:26*pm, Winston wrote:
Steve Ackman wrote:
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:31:15 -0700, Winston wrote:


The outage has been a big deal on rec.bicycles.tech since July 30.


* *I hope Google Groups is gone for good. *I wonder
if I'm the only one.


The execution was less than perfect, for sure.
We may never know the challenges they are up
against in repackaging USENET like that.

I'm concerned that without a powerful corporate
sponsor, USENET might continue it's decline.

--Winston


It's back up. Maybe they got hacked


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Usenet has been dying since long before Google
started stealing (NOT "sponsoring") it. I'm sure it'll
still be dying 20 years from now.


May that process continue at this same rate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Us...r_day_(en).svg


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This is the actual svg:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...y_%28en%29.svg
(I bet you can't see it in Seamonkey 2.0.11.)


That is much prettier than the link I cited. Thanks!
Looks great in Seamonkey 2.0.11. (That'll be 0.1 'RCM Attaboy'.)

As to the content. It claims to represent posts
per day and parenthetically GB per day. It can't be
both. I'd bet on GB per day.


A safe bet.

Clarification:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/PiratesVsTemp(en).svg/500px-PiratesVsTemp(en).svg

The NUMBER of posts is probaby going down while the
volume of binary content is going up.


I DAGS but wasn't able to get a handle on the sheer
number of USENET posts v. volume.

Sometimes fewer posts are better.
Of the top 20 RCM posters, 8 live in my plonkfile.
The remainder are a continuing source of compelling
information and inspiration.

The data is
from alltopia and they do carry binaries after all.

Thanks for that link btw. :-)


Soitny.

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At html5test.com Seamonkey 2.0.11 scores 165 out of
450 plus 4 bonus points.


I often run into web incompatibilities using Seamonkey.
Unfortunately, the most important incompatibilities are
also present when I run Firefox (which is specifically
cited on some incompatible sites as being compatible!)

(...)

Sometimes fewer posts are better.
Of the top 20 RCM posters, 8 live in my plonkfile.


Without looking, I'll guess 6 live in mine.


You are a very patient guy.

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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:25:54 -0700, Winston
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Steve Ackman wrote:

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Usenet has been dying since long before Google
started stealing (NOT "sponsoring") it. I'm sure it'll
still be dying 20 years from now.


May that process continue at this same rate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Us...r_day_(en).svg


sigh Farkin' broken URLS, I swear... http://goo.gl/yccSq
That one includes the last 9 characters.

Yeah, it's really dying, isn't it?
5Gb in '97, 8,000Gb in '011, with increases every single year.

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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:14:45 -0700, Winston
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Steve Ackman wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:26:02 -0700, Winston wrote:
Steve Ackman wrote:


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At html5test.com Seamonkey 2.0.11 scores 165 out of
450 plus 4 bonus points.


I often run into web incompatibilities using Seamonkey.
Unfortunately, the most important incompatibilities are
also present when I run Firefox (which is specifically
cited on some incompatible sites as being compatible!)

(...)

Sometimes fewer posts are better.
Of the top 20 RCM posters, 8 live in my plonkfile.


Without looking, I'll guess 6 live in mine.


You are a very patient guy.


16 were in mine, and I LIKE it that way. I miss Gunner's good posts,
though. But he's in there for the far, far too many reTrolls.

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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:41:24 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:14:45 -0700, Winston
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Steve Ackman wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:26:02 -0700, Winston wrote:
Steve Ackman wrote:


(...)

At html5test.com Seamonkey 2.0.11 scores 165 out of
450 plus 4 bonus points.


I often run into web incompatibilities using Seamonkey.
Unfortunately, the most important incompatibilities are
also present when I run Firefox (which is specifically
cited on some incompatible sites as being compatible!)

(...)

Sometimes fewer posts are better.
Of the top 20 RCM posters, 8 live in my plonkfile.

Without looking, I'll guess 6 live in mine.


You are a very patient guy.


16 were in mine, and I LIKE it that way. I miss Gunner's good posts,
though. But he's in there for the far, far too many reTrolls.


Reality sucks doesnt it?

Shrug

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It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
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