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We've been busy this year! Historically, we've serviced industrial and
hardware markets for the past 132 years. For the past 12 years we've
concentrated on food service products. While other markets have
softened and have been saturated by imports, food service has been
growing steadily. It seems that even in recession people eat out a lot.
Here's what we've been developing: (Remember my tube bending questions?)

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ilerbrush2.jpg

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...pertopshot.jpg

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ithscraper.jpg

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ithscraper.jpg

All simple products and I fill the brushes on machines set up to make
welding brushes with a few modifications. All good additions to my
other food service offerings that I've been making for years. The
scrapers were just die work and the parts are barrel plated.
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 03:49:57 -0400, Tom Gardner mars@tacks wrote:

We've been busy this year! Historically, we've serviced industrial and
hardware markets for the past 132 years. For the past 12 years we've
concentrated on food service products. While other markets have
softened and have been saturated by imports, food service has been
growing steadily. It seems that even in recession people eat out a lot.
Here's what we've been developing: (Remember my tube bending questions?)

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ilerbrush2.jpg

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...pertopshot.jpg

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ithscraper.jpg

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ithscraper.jpg

All simple products and I fill the brushes on machines set up to make
welding brushes with a few modifications. All good additions to my
other food service offerings that I've been making for years. The
scrapers were just die work and the parts are barrel plated.


Bravo Sir..Bravo indeed!

That knotbrush/brasssinglesided with scraper should be one of your Best
sellers! Not just to the trades, but to the home grill people!!

Very nicely photographed as well!!

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Wow -- that is a sharp tubing bend. Care to share how that was done
without kinking? Was it notched and welded?
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looks like great products to me

On 2011-07-17, Tom Gardner mars@tacks wrote:
We've been busy this year! Historically, we've serviced industrial and
hardware markets for the past 132 years. For the past 12 years we've
concentrated on food service products. While other markets have
softened and have been saturated by imports, food service has been
growing steadily. It seems that even in recession people eat out a lot.
Here's what we've been developing: (Remember my tube bending questions?)

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ilerbrush2.jpg

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...pertopshot.jpg

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ithscraper.jpg

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ithscraper.jpg

All simple products and I fill the brushes on machines set up to make
welding brushes with a few modifications. All good additions to my
other food service offerings that I've been making for years. The
scrapers were just die work and the parts are barrel plated.

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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 03:49:57 -0400, Tom Gardner mars@tacks wrote:

We've been busy this year! Historically, we've serviced industrial and
hardware markets for the past 132 years. For the past 12 years we've
concentrated on food service products. While other markets have
softened and have been saturated by imports, food service has been
growing steadily. It seems that even in recession people eat out a lot.


Stupid for them, good for you.


Here's what we've been developing: (Remember my tube bending questions?)


Sure do. How did you end up doing it, press/crimp style?


http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ithscraper.jpg


Booful! I hope Carlisle appreciates the craftsmanship.

All simple products and I fill the brushes on machines set up to make
welding brushes with a few modifications. All good additions to my
other food service offerings that I've been making for years. The
scrapers were just die work and the parts are barrel plated.


Cool. Carry on, American manufacturer! We salute you.

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On 7/17/2011 7:13 AM, Denis G. wrote:
On Jul 17, 2:49 am, Tom Gardnermars@tacks wrote:

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...andlebroilerbr...

Wow -- that is a sharp tubing bend. Care to share how that was done
without kinking? Was it notched and welded?


The tube is 1/2" EMT. We made Aluminum bending die with roller "wings"
and mounted it to a shop-built hydraulic press using a 2-1/4" bore x 5"
stroke cylinder. The press was originally built to quickly press a tube
into a Nylon handle. Funny, we never talked about the tube
kinking...good thing it all works before YOU jinxed it! It's a great
product and already established by other manufacturers on the west
coast...to which we already sell them the block brushes. The east
coast is wide open! We instal Flat-wire brush, Stainless Steel, Carbon
Steel and Brass wire block brushes and sell replacement brushes with a
routed groove on the top and piloted screw holes so the end user saves
the handle and a few bucks.
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Booful! I hope Carlisle appreciates the craftsmanship.

All simple products and I fill the brushes on machines set up to make
welding brushes with a few modifications. All good additions to my
other food service offerings that I've been making for years. The
scrapers were just die work and the parts are barrel plated.


Cool. Carry on, American manufacturer! We salute you.

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Carlisle has been buying our stuff for many years but has taken a couple
of products of mine to China. They thought to save a lot of money but
have had all kinds of problems and massive returns. The wood that the
Chinese use is "Rubberwood", it won't hold a staple very well. We
pull-test tufts to 50 pounds, Rubberwood won't hold at even 20 pounds so
the wire falls out and possibly ends up in your food. We are targeting
Carlisle's customers more and more and they are very receptive to
American-Made products that last.

It really sucks that I constantly have to develop new products, I want
to rest on my laurels! I want to play golf and go fishing, not still be
working on weekends.
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That's nice, but you know what we're REALLY interested in - the machines
that make them. Yeah, I know - trade secrets. But, what about the
brush with the bent handle - how did you eventually handle the bending?

Bob
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:56:44 -0400, Tom Gardner mars@tacks wrote:

On 7/17/2011 10:10 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
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Booful! I hope Carlisle appreciates the craftsmanship.

All simple products and I fill the brushes on machines set up to make
welding brushes with a few modifications. All good additions to my
other food service offerings that I've been making for years. The
scrapers were just die work and the parts are barrel plated.


Cool. Carry on, American manufacturer! We salute you.

--


Carlisle has been buying our stuff for many years but has taken a couple
of products of mine to China. They thought to save a lot of money but
have had all kinds of problems and massive returns. The wood that the


Have you mentioned that you consider that to be a less than reputable
action by a customer, and that further like behavior would be met by a
full loss of any future orders being filled by OBC? (Or something to
that effect.)


Chinese use is "Rubberwood", it won't hold a staple very well. We
pull-test tufts to 50 pounds, Rubberwood won't hold at even 20 pounds so
the wire falls out and possibly ends up in your food. We are targeting
Carlisle's customers more and more and they are very receptive to
American-Made products that last.


I haven't found a decent grille brush yet. Everything sold locally is
Chiwawanese and the viagra has worn off the brass bristles. They go
limp at the first insertion.


It really sucks that I constantly have to develop new products, I want
to rest on my laurels! I want to play golf and go fishing, not still be
working on weekends.


Yabbut, all that work helps you keep your girlish figure. Priceless!

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On Jul 17, 11:40*am, Tom Gardner mars@tacks wrote:
On 7/17/2011 7:13 AM, Denis G. wrote:

On Jul 17, 2:49 am, Tom Gardnermars@tacks *wrote:


http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...andlebroilerbr....


Wow -- that is a sharp tubing bend. *Care to share how that was done
without kinking? *Was it notched and welded?


The tube is 1/2" EMT. *We made Aluminum bending die with roller "wings"
and mounted it to a shop-built hydraulic press using a 2-1/4" bore x 5"
stroke cylinder. *The press was originally built to quickly press a tube
into a Nylon handle. *Funny, we never talked about the tube
kinking...good thing it all works before YOU jinxed it! *It's a great
product and already established by other manufacturers on the west
coast...to which we already *sell them the block brushes. *The east
coast is wide open! *We instal Flat-wire brush, Stainless Steel, Carbon
Steel and Brass wire block brushes and sell replacement brushes with a
routed groove on the top and piloted screw holes so the end user saves
the handle and a few bucks.


Sorry, I didn't mean to jinx things, but I think that your magic is
stronger than mine anyways if you can get tubing to do that. Nice
work!


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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:56:44 -0400, Tom Gardner mars@tacks wrote:

On 7/17/2011 10:10 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
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Booful! I hope Carlisle appreciates the craftsmanship.

All simple products and I fill the brushes on machines set up to make
welding brushes with a few modifications. All good additions to my
other food service offerings that I've been making for years. The
scrapers were just die work and the parts are barrel plated.

Cool. Carry on, American manufacturer! We salute you.

--


Carlisle has been buying our stuff for many years but has taken a couple
of products of mine to China. They thought to save a lot of money but
have had all kinds of problems and massive returns. The wood that the


Have you mentioned that you consider that to be a less than reputable
action by a customer, and that further like behavior would be met by a
full loss of any future orders being filled by OBC? (Or something to
that effect.)


Chinese use is "Rubberwood", it won't hold a staple very well. We
pull-test tufts to 50 pounds, Rubberwood won't hold at even 20 pounds so
the wire falls out and possibly ends up in your food. We are targeting
Carlisle's customers more and more and they are very receptive to
American-Made products that last.


I haven't found a decent grille brush yet. Everything sold locally is
Chiwawanese and the viagra has worn off the brass bristles. They go
limp at the first insertion.


I've solved the problem with an alternative non-medical technology,
heat.

With the grill bars at about 500 F, scrub them off using a
stainless-steel curly scour pad (actually, two pads matted together)
held in a loooong pair of tongs. The heat softens the cooked-on crust
enough to make removal easy.

I also made a special scraper with a blade custom-made to fit exactly
over and around the grill bars, but hardly ever need it.

Joe Gwinn
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On 17/07/2011 3:49 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
We've been busy this year! Historically, we've serviced industrial and
hardware markets for the past 132 years. For the past 12 years we've
concentrated on food service products. While other markets have softened
and have been saturated by imports, food service has been growing
steadily. It seems that even in recession people eat out a lot. Here's
what we've been developing: (Remember my tube bending questions?)

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ilerbrush2.jpg


http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...pertopshot.jpg


http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ithscraper.jpg


http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ithscraper.jpg


All simple products and I fill the brushes on machines set up to make
welding brushes with a few modifications. All good additions to my other
food service offerings that I've been making for years. The scrapers
were just die work and the parts are barrel plated.



Nice work. Not being in the field myself its good to see what comes of
some of the dicussions here on RCM.
cheers
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On 18/07/2011 1:16 AM, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
That's nice, but you know what we're REALLY interested in - the machines
that make them. Yeah, I know - trade secrets. But, what about the brush
with the bent handle - how did you eventually handle the bending?

Bob



Short videos of them operating would be nice. Im sure the Chinese
counterfeiters wont see them here....
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On 7/17/2011 3:45 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Have you mentioned that you consider that to be a less than reputable
action by a customer, and that further like behavior would be met by a
full loss of any future orders being filled by OBC? (Or something to
that effect.)


It happens every day but I still sell them stuff with a smile. NEVER
burn a bridge!
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On 7/17/2011 10:45 PM, Dennis wrote:
On 17/07/2011 3:49 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
We've been busy this year! Historically, we've serviced industrial and
hardware markets for the past 132 years. For the past 12 years we've
concentrated on food service products. While other markets have softened
and have been saturated by imports, food service has been growing
steadily. It seems that even in recession people eat out a lot. Here's
what we've been developing: (Remember my tube bending questions?)

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ilerbrush2.jpg



http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...pertopshot.jpg



http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ithscraper.jpg



http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ithscraper.jpg



All simple products and I fill the brushes on machines set up to make
welding brushes with a few modifications. All good additions to my other
food service offerings that I've been making for years. The scrapers
were just die work and the parts are barrel plated.



Nice work. Not being in the field myself its good to see what comes of
some of the dicussions here on RCM.
cheers


I've had a lot of questions answered here and often answers invoke new
questions and new ideas.


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On 7/17/2011 1:16 PM, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
That's nice, but you know what we're REALLY interested in - the machines
that make them. Yeah, I know - trade secrets. But, what about the brush
with the bent handle - how did you eventually handle the bending?

Bob


We bend the tube with a small hydraulic press made in the shop. The
tube dies are Aluminum with hinged rollers on the female.
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:41:25 -0400, Tom Gardner mars@tacks wrote:

On 7/17/2011 3:45 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Have you mentioned that you consider that to be a less than reputable
action by a customer, and that further like behavior would be met by a
full loss of any future orders being filled by OBC? (Or something to
that effect.)


It happens every day but I still sell them stuff with a smile. NEVER
burn a bridge!


Ever diminish your discounts to them?

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On 7/18/2011 7:19 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:41:25 -0400, Tom Gardnermars@tacks wrote:

On 7/17/2011 3:45 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Have you mentioned that you consider that to be a less than reputable
action by a customer, and that further like behavior would be met by a
full loss of any future orders being filled by OBC? (Or something to
that effect.)


It happens every day but I still sell them stuff with a smile. NEVER
burn a bridge!


Ever diminish your discounts to them?

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Life is an escalator:
You can move forward or backward;
you can not remain still.
-- Patricia Russell-McCloud



On some items I have raised prices but some items are under a yearly
contract.
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