FFS....just spot how many basic rules of fork-lift safety are being
violated in this video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0c_1310175148

The guy in the "man cage" wasn't killed, which was certainly lucky for
him. I wasn't aware that a "man cage" type device was even permitted
under OSHA rules.....in fact, I doubt that it is.
Dave

wrote in message ...

FFS....just spot how many basic rules of fork-lift safety are being
violated in this video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0c_1310175148

The guy in the "man cage" wasn't killed, which was certainly lucky for
him. I wasn't aware that a "man cage" type device was even permitted
under OSHA rules.....in fact, I doubt that it is.
Dave

What OSHA rules? That is Plymouth England!


Steve R.

On 7/9/2011 1:49 AM, Steve wrote:


wrote in message ...
FFS....just spot how many basic rules of fork-lift safety are being
violated in this video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0c_1310175148

The guy in the "man cage" wasn't killed, which was certainly lucky for
him. I wasn't aware that a "man cage" type device was even permitted
under OSHA rules.....in fact, I doubt that it is.
Dave

What OSHA rules? That is Plymouth England!


Steve R.

Did OSAH rules on these things change [relatively] lately?

The (USA) grocery store chain I work for sent forklift man-platforms out
to all the stores a few years ago. They got used only very occasinally.
Usually the stock clerks would just get the whole pallet down, since
they'd need a bunch of whatever was on it anyway.

Then after about a year, corporate HQ sent an email around not to use
them anymore. So now every store has a bright-orange,
nearly-new-condition forklift platform sitting in the storage room. And
has for the past, oh, five years or so.

On 7/9/2011 5:12 AM, DougC wrote:
On 7/9/2011 1:49 AM, Steve wrote:


wrote in message ...
FFS....just spot how many basic rules of fork-lift safety are being
violated in this video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0c_1310175148

The guy in the "man cage" wasn't killed, which was certainly lucky for
him. I wasn't aware that a "man cage" type device was even permitted
under OSHA rules.....in fact, I doubt that it is.
Dave

What OSHA rules? That is Plymouth England!


Steve R.

Did OSAH rules on these things change [relatively] lately?

The (USA) grocery store chain I work for sent forklift man-platforms out
to all the stores a few years ago. They got used only very occasinally.
Usually the stock clerks would just get the whole pallet down, since
they'd need a bunch of whatever was on it anyway.

Then after about a year, corporate HQ sent an email around not to use
them anymore. So now every store has a bright-orange,
nearly-new-condition forklift platform sitting in the storage room. And
has for the past, oh, five years or so.

From the looks of it, it is functionally not very different from a
Genie AWP type lift. The problem in the video was taking a fairly
high-speed turn with a load elevated on the forks. IF you must move
with a man in the basket, you do so at a creep. That lift would have
toppled no matter what load was up high. Not a tool problem, an
operator problem.

http://www.craneandforkliftattachments.com/page7.htm

Seems to be a legal device in the UK/Ireland

On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 04:12:18 -0500, DougC
wrote:

On 7/9/2011 1:49 AM, Steve wrote:


wrote in message ...
FFS....just spot how many basic rules of fork-lift safety are being
violated in this video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0c_1310175148

The guy in the "man cage" wasn't killed, which was certainly lucky for
him. I wasn't aware that a "man cage" type device was even permitted
under OSHA rules.....in fact, I doubt that it is.
Dave

What OSHA rules? That is Plymouth England!


Steve R.

Did OSAH rules on these things change [relatively] lately?

The (USA) grocery store chain I work for sent forklift man-platforms out
to all the stores a few years ago. They got used only very occasinally.
Usually the stock clerks would just get the whole pallet down, since
they'd need a bunch of whatever was on it anyway.

Then after about a year, corporate HQ sent an email around not to use
them anymore. So now every store has a bright-orange,
nearly-new-condition forklift platform sitting in the storage room. And
has for the past, oh, five years or so.

Do they sell them? I could use one of the manlift types if the price
was right.

Gunner

--
Maxim 12: A soft answer turneth away wrath.
Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.

On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 23:49:24 -0700, "Steve" wrote:



wrote in message ...

FFS....just spot how many basic rules of fork-lift safety are being
violated in this video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0c_1310175148

The guy in the "man cage" wasn't killed, which was certainly lucky for
him. I wasn't aware that a "man cage" type device was even permitted
under OSHA rules.....in fact, I doubt that it is.
Dave

What OSHA rules? That is Plymouth England!

Then make that the Queen's Safety Nazis.

--
Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort.
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt

On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 08:10:17 -0400, Stuart Wheaton
wrote:

On 7/9/2011 5:12 AM, DougC wrote:
On 7/9/2011 1:49 AM, Steve wrote:


wrote in message ...
FFS....just spot how many basic rules of fork-lift safety are being
violated in this video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0c_1310175148

The guy in the "man cage" wasn't killed, which was certainly lucky for
him. I wasn't aware that a "man cage" type device was even permitted
under OSHA rules.....in fact, I doubt that it is.
Dave

What OSHA rules? That is Plymouth England!


Steve R.

Did OSAH rules on these things change [relatively] lately?

The (USA) grocery store chain I work for sent forklift man-platforms out
to all the stores a few years ago. They got used only very occasinally.
Usually the stock clerks would just get the whole pallet down, since
they'd need a bunch of whatever was on it anyway.

Then after about a year, corporate HQ sent an email around not to use
them anymore. So now every store has a bright-orange,
nearly-new-condition forklift platform sitting in the storage room. And
has for the past, oh, five years or so.

I wonder how many got crushed into trusses in those. I think I've seen
even more lousy forklift drivers than crazy VW drivers, and that's
saying a lot. My Tundra was cut off TWICE by an idiot blind bitz in a
VW van yesterday. Had I been in my old Ford, I'd have let her take
what she had coming. She changed into my lane with less than 4' and I
was accelerating both times, so I had to use the 4-wheel disc brakes
hard, on short notice, each time. It didn't matter how big my truck
was because she simply did not look to see if it was clear to change
lanes. She was too busy making hand gestures and talking with the
other lady in the POS to pay attention to that little detail. Feh!


From the looks of it, it is functionally not very different from a
Genie AWP type lift. The problem in the video was taking a fairly
high-speed turn with a load elevated on the forks. IF you must move
with a man in the basket, you do so at a creep. That lift would have
toppled no matter what load was up high. Not a tool problem, an
operator problem.

Absolutely. I'll bet that when the electrician is back to normal, he
tracks down and kicks the **** out of that idiot driver who hurt him
and nearly killed him.


http://www.craneandforkliftattachments.com/page7.htm

Seems to be a legal device in the UK/Ireland

That's amazing. Butter knives are banned there. =:0


--
Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort.
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt

wrote in message
...
FFS....just spot how many basic rules of fork-lift safety are being
violated in this video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0c_1310175148

The guy in the "man cage" wasn't killed.

Darwin is probably rolling in his grave.

On 7/9/2011 10:58 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
wrote in message
...
FFS....just spot how many basic rules of fork-lift safety are being
violated in this video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0c_1310175148

The guy in the "man cage" wasn't killed.

Darwin is probably rolling in his grave.



The guy in the cage wasn't necessarily the one doing the stupid thing.
He might have been screaming his head off for the guy to bring him down
and drive sanely.

"Stuart Wheaton" wrote in message
...
On 7/9/2011 10:58 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
wrote in message
...
FFS....just spot how many basic rules of fork-lift safety are being
violated in this video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0c_1310175148

The guy in the "man cage" wasn't killed.

Darwin is probably rolling in his grave.



The guy in the cage wasn't necessarily the one doing the stupid thing. He
might have been screaming his head off for the guy to bring him down and
drive sanely.


He got into the cage when there was a MORON behind the wheel.

Good enough for me...

wrote in message
...
FFS....just spot how many basic rules of fork-lift safety are being
violated in this video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0c_1310175148

The guy in the "man cage" wasn't killed, which was certainly lucky for
him. I wasn't aware that a "man cage" type device was even permitted
under OSHA rules.....in fact, I doubt that it is.
Dave

The operator is running around with his lift extended. The load should be
4" off the deck, then lifted when he reaches the work point. He's going too
fast. He turns too sharply.

The "man cage" is allowed. We used them a lot in the convention industry,
but only certain operators were allowed to run a lift with men in the
basket. Each man had to be tied off. No one rode in the basket underway,
but entered when the lift reached the work point. The "man cage" looks to
be two story contraption, probably shop made. That added to the top
heavyness. The forklift is of a small variety with tiny wheels. The cage
is about as big as the forklift, but surely not as heavy. But do the
physics with leverage, centrifugal force, etc.

The causes are simple. Stages extended while driving, excessive speed, too
sharp of a turn. The operator surely was either an idiot, or a newbie, or
on drugs, or all three.

Steve, OSHA certified up to 10,000# lift truck operator.

The guy in the "man cage" wasn't killed, which was certainly lucky for
him. I wasn't aware that a "man cage" type device was even permitted
under OSHA rules.....in fact, I doubt that it is.
Dave

Holy crap, I missed that small detail. For a man to be in the cage under
movement, and at that speed is a definite no no. We could not carry
personnel in our cages while under movement. We had to become stationary,
then they could get in and buckle up. Any movement was done at a snail's
pace after that. This guy was hot dogging with a guy in the bucket. AND
with his mast extended. What an idiot. Both of them.

Steve

As a kid we used them overseas. They like 1,2,3 stack of beer
was never to be moved unless at the bottom. Yes backup one stack
depth and then lower to ground. Raise to clear and move slowly.

Center of gravity must be kept low. The movie was like moving
a dumbbell standing on end and pushing the bottom only.

Martin

On 7/9/2011 10:10 AM, Stuart Wheaton wrote:
On 7/9/2011 10:58 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
wrote in message
...
FFS....just spot how many basic rules of fork-lift safety are being
violated in this video.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0c_1310175148

The guy in the "man cage" wasn't killed.

Darwin is probably rolling in his grave.



The guy in the cage wasn't necessarily the one doing the stupid thing.
He might have been screaming his head off for the guy to bring him down
and drive sanely.