On this day of rememberance lets not forget the men and women that are
doing an outstanding job of sending terrorists to paradise. You can show
your support for the troops in harms way by sending a care package.

"Sometimes, a care package is perfect. Once -- I won't say where -- I
watched a tentmate open up a box that contained a bottle of Skyy vodka, and
the look on his face rivaled the boy's in A Christmas Story when he is
finally united with his Red Ryder Carbine-Action Range Model Air Rifle. Of
course, that came from a friend, not an anonymous patriot, but other, more
licit luxuries can be just as welcome."

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...507/#toggleBio

Supporting our troops is the best way to defeat the radical jihadist.

Best Regards
Tom.

On Sep 11, 8:10*pm, "azotic" wrote:


"Sometimes, a care package is perfect.
Best Regards
Tom.

Thanks Tom for the care package suggestion - we Australians have
troops in Afghanistan, and irrespective of the politics they deserve
honour and respect for doing their duty for their country under
difficult and dangerous conditions. I have emailed Defense here in Oz
to see if I can send such a package.

BTW - looked up the tobacco reference - why chewing tobacco, not heard
of anyone here using it. Is there some (military) reason why this is
preferable to cigarettes? The irony is, of course, that smoking is bad
for your health, but I guess the front line guys have more pressing
things to worry about.........

Andrew VK3BFA.

On Sep 11, 6:42*am, Andrew VK3BFA wrote:
On Sep 11, 8:10*pm, "azotic" wrote:



"Sometimes, a care package is perfect.
Best Regards
Tom.

Thanks Tom for the care package suggestion - we Australians have
troops in Afghanistan, and irrespective of the politics they deserve
honour and respect for doing their duty for their country under
difficult and dangerous conditions. I have emailed Defense here in Oz
to see if I can send such a package.

BTW - looked up the tobacco reference - why chewing tobacco, not heard
of anyone here using it. Is there some (military) reason why this is
preferable to cigarettes? The irony is, of course, that smoking is bad
for your health, but I guess the front line guys have more pressing
things to worry about.........

Andrew VK3BFA.

Quite likely because no fire is used in it's use. This is the reason
it is acceptable to use in most areas of chem plants as well where
smoking is not. That red dot from a lit cig may be a perfect target
for a sniper and/or give away your location

On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 05:01:54 -0700 (PDT), Gerry
wrote:

On Sep 11, 6:42*am, Andrew VK3BFA wrote:
On Sep 11, 8:10*pm, "azotic" wrote:



"Sometimes, a care package is perfect.
Best Regards
Tom.

Thanks Tom for the care package suggestion - we Australians have
troops in Afghanistan, and irrespective of the politics they deserve
honour and respect for doing their duty for their country under
difficult and dangerous conditions. I have emailed Defense here in Oz
to see if I can send such a package.

BTW - looked up the tobacco reference - why chewing tobacco, not heard
of anyone here using it. Is there some (military) reason why this is
preferable to cigarettes? The irony is, of course, that smoking is bad
for your health, but I guess the front line guys have more pressing
things to worry about.........

Andrew VK3BFA.

Quite likely because no fire is used in it's use. This is the reason
it is acceptable to use in most areas of chem plants as well where
smoking is not. That red dot from a lit cig may be a perfect target
for a sniper and/or give away your location

I'm not sure about the current Meals Ready to Eat but the old "C"
Rations included cigarettes in several of the meals.

In addition, at least in Vietnam (my last war) cigarettes were freely
available to the troops, both front line and support troops.

Cheers,

John D. Slocomb
(jdslocombatgmail)

"Andrew VK3BFA" wrote in message
...
On Sep 11, 8:10 pm, "azotic" wrote:


"Sometimes, a care package is perfect.
Best Regards
Tom.

Thanks Tom for the care package suggestion - we Australians have
troops in Afghanistan, and irrespective of the politics they deserve
honour and respect for doing their duty for their country under
difficult and dangerous conditions. I have emailed Defense here in Oz
to see if I can send such a package.

BTW - looked up the tobacco reference - why chewing tobacco, not heard
of anyone here using it. Is there some (military) reason why this is
preferable to cigarettes? The irony is, of course, that smoking is bad
for your health, but I guess the front line guys have more pressing
things to worry about.........

Andrew VK3BFA.

A lit cigarette or cigar is very visable at night, especially if you have
night vision goggles or an IR scope.

I would also like to thank all our allies for the sacrifices they have made
for the war on terror.

Best Regards
Tom.

On Sep 11, 10:56*pm, "azotic" wrote:
"Andrew VK3BFA" wrote in message

...
On Sep 11, 8:10 pm, "azotic" wrote:



"Sometimes, a care package is perfect.
Best Regards
Tom.

Thanks Tom for the care package suggestion - we Australians have
troops in Afghanistan, and irrespective of the politics they deserve
honour and respect for doing their duty for their country under
difficult and dangerous conditions. I have emailed Defense here in Oz
to see if I can send such a package.

BTW - looked up the tobacco reference - why chewing tobacco, not heard
of anyone here using it. Is there some (military) reason why this is
preferable to cigarettes? The irony is, of course, that smoking is bad
for your health, but I guess the front line guys have more pressing
things to worry about.........

Andrew VK3BFA.

A lit cigarette or cigar is very visable at night, especially if you have
night vision goggles or an IR scope.

I would also like to thank all our allies for the sacrifices they have made
for the war on terror.

Best Regards
Tom.

Gerry, Tom -
Tnks re the tobacco question - would have been blatantly obvious if I
had thought about it. Not sure, but I think the Health Police here
has managed to ban chewing tobacco - I know they banned snuff years
ago....

Andrew VK3BFA.

"azotic" wrote:

A lit cigarette or cigar is very visable at night, especially if you have
night vision goggles or an IR scope.


Not only that, a non-smoker can smell a smoker from a distance depending on winds.

Wes

On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 10:07:33 -0400, Wes
wrote:

"azotic" wrote:

A lit cigarette or cigar is very visable at night, especially if you have
night vision goggles or an IR scope.

Not only that, a non-smoker can smell a smoker from a distance depending on winds.

After smoking, at least 50'; w/ lit cig, over 1/4 mile. And that's
just me in the big city.

LRPs could smell 'em for 10 times that distance after being out in the
jungle for awhile, so I'm told.

--
Happiness comes of the capacity to feel deeply, to enjoy
simply, to think freely, to risk life, to be needed.
-- Storm Jameson

On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 04:42:58 -0700 (PDT), Andrew VK3BFA
wrote:

On Sep 11, 8:10*pm, "azotic" wrote:


"Sometimes, a care package is perfect.
Best Regards
Tom.

Thanks Tom for the care package suggestion - we Australians have
troops in Afghanistan, and irrespective of the politics they deserve
honour and respect for doing their duty for their country under
difficult and dangerous conditions. I have emailed Defense here in Oz
to see if I can send such a package.

BTW - looked up the tobacco reference - why chewing tobacco, not heard
of anyone here using it. Is there some (military) reason why this is
preferable to cigarettes? The irony is, of course, that smoking is bad
for your health, but I guess the front line guys have more pressing
things to worry about.........

Andrew VK3BFA.

Dip is NOT chewing tobacco.

Not even close.

Gunner


I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
(Hebrew quote)

On Sep 11, 3:10*am, "azotic" wrote:
On this day of rememberance lets not forget the men and women that are
doing an outstanding job of sending terrorists to paradise. You can show
your support for the troops in harms way by sending a care package.

"Sometimes, a care package is perfect. Once -- I won't say where -- I
watched a tentmate open up a box that contained a bottle of Skyy vodka, and
the look on his face rivaled the boy's in A Christmas Story when he is
finally united with his Red Ryder Carbine-Action Range Model Air Rifle. Of
course, that came from a friend, not an anonymous patriot, but other, more
licit luxuries can be just as welcome."

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...9/the-bizarre-...

Supporting our troops is the best way to defeat the radical jihadist.

Best Regards
Tom.

Thanks for the reminder, Tom. We send packages to specific individuals
through our church. One was always sent to our nephew.

Our older son was in the Army for 11 years and volunteered for the the
first Gulf War. He has a picture of what happens to those packages
sent to any troop. The picture was of a high chain link fenced area an
acre or more in size filled with boxes. They just tossed the boxes
over the fence into the area. Folks back home never knew. So, if you
send boxes to the troops, be specific!!!!!

Paul, KD7HB

" wrote:

"Sometimes, a care package is perfect. Once -- I won't say where -- I
watched a tentmate open up a box that contained a bottle of Skyy vodka, and
the look on his face rivaled the boy's in A Christmas Story when he is
finally united with his Red Ryder Carbine-Action Range Model Air Rifle. Of
course, that came from a friend, not an anonymous patriot, but other, more
licit luxuries can be just as welcome."

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...9/the-bizarre-...

Supporting our troops is the best way to defeat the radical jihadist.

Best Regards
Tom.

Thanks for the reminder, Tom. We send packages to specific individuals
through our church. One was always sent to our nephew.

Our older son was in the Army for 11 years and volunteered for the the
first Gulf War. He has a picture of what happens to those packages
sent to any troop. The picture was of a high chain link fenced area an
acre or more in size filled with boxes. They just tossed the boxes
over the fence into the area. Folks back home never knew. So, if you
send boxes to the troops, be specific!!!!!


That sucks.

As to the alky content of the thread. Sending a bottle of booze isn't going to go over
well afikt. It is a Muslim country so we are honoring there prohibition on booze. I'll
have to ask a recent hire that served in both Iraq and Afghanistan if that is real policy
in actuality.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:10:39 -0700, azotic wrote:

Supporting our troops is the best way to defeat the radical jihadist.

Or, we could simply call off the Crusades, and there wouldn't _BE_
any radical jihadists.

Thanks,
Rich

On 9/14/2010 4:37 PM, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:10:39 -0700, azotic wrote:

Supporting our troops is the best way to defeat the radical jihadist.

Or, we could simply call off the Crusades, and there wouldn't _BE_
any radical jihadists.

In your dreams.

They consider it their duty to kill us just because we are not muslims.

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:38:22 -0500, RBnDFW wrote:
On 9/14/2010 4:37 PM, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:10:39 -0700, azotic wrote:

Supporting our troops is the best way to defeat the radical jihadist.

Or, we could simply call off the Crusades, and there wouldn't _BE_
any radical jihadists.

In your dreams.

They consider it their duty to kill us just because we are not muslims.

No, they consider it their duty to kill us becausee we've sent armed
invasion forces to their country effectively making war on their religion.

You're no better than the terrorists, sitting there whipping up blind
hatred.

Thanks,
Rich

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:19:18 -0700, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:38:22 -0500, RBnDFW wrote:
On 9/14/2010 4:37 PM, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:10:39 -0700, azotic wrote:

Supporting our troops is the best way to defeat the radical jihadist.

Or, we could simply call off the Crusades, and there wouldn't _BE_
any radical jihadists.

In your dreams.

They consider it their duty to kill us just because we are not muslims.

No, they consider it their duty to kill us becausee we've sent armed
invasion forces to their country effectively making war on their religion.

The answer is C: Both of the above.

_Now_ what do we do?


--
Not merely an absence of noise, Real Silence begins
when a reasonable being withdraws from the noise in
order to find peace and order in his inner sanctuary.
-- Peter Minard

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:19:18 -0700, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
wrote:

In your dreams.

They consider it their duty to kill us just because we are not muslims.

No, they consider it their duty to kill us becausee we've sent armed
invasion forces to their country effectively making war on their religion.

You're no better than the terrorists, sitting there whipping up blind
hatred.

Thanks,
Rich

Rich keeps forgettting that the tangos have been killing Americans
long...long...long before we sent a single troop to the middle east.

They started killing Yanks because we were supporting Israel with money
and materials.

But Rich does tend to forget a lot of things.......


Gunner


I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
(Hebrew quote)

Gunner Asch wrote:

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:19:18 -0700, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
wrote:

In your dreams.

They consider it their duty to kill us just because we are not muslims.

No, they consider it their duty to kill us becausee we've sent armed
invasion forces to their country effectively making war on their religion.

You're no better than the terrorists, sitting there whipping up blind
hatred.

Thanks,
Rich

Rich keeps forgettting that the tangos have been killing Americans
long...long...long before we sent a single troop to the middle east.

They started killing Yanks because we were supporting Israel with money
and materials.

But Rich does tend to forget a lot of things.......


Just like Rich has done to his poor neurons with pot & vodka.


--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.

On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:21:43 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:

Rich keeps forgettting that the tangos have been killing Americans
long...long...long before we sent a single troop to the middle east.

They started killing Yanks because we were supporting Israel with money
and materials.

Yeah - we were supporting Israel, in their attacks on their neighbors.

So, we took first blood, through our Jew (Zionist) proxies.

Thanks for finally owning up to the facts.

Cheers!
Rich