A guy approaches my exhibit booth and after looking at my 20 inch cypress bowl,
and says it is terrible that you have cut down old growth cypress to make this
bowl. I let him know that I did not cut the tree down, but the logging company
that did had piled the butts up in a pile to burn and I was offered them by the
owner before they became ashes and smoke. Some people seem to enjoy attacking
others, when they should ask us where we got the wood before they start their
ignorant remarks in front of others. Just my thoughts. Things like this ever
happen to any of you?
Glenn Hodges
Nashville, GA.

Nice to see that Australia isn't the only place that suffers asshole
greenies - tree huggers I think you call them in America.
Cheers
Paul


On 29 Oct 2004 14:52:24 GMT, (Ghodges2) wrote:

A guy approaches my exhibit booth and after looking at my 20 inch cypress bowl,
and says it is terrible that you have cut down old growth cypress to make this
bowl. I let him know that I did not cut the tree down, but the logging company
that did had piled the butts up in a pile to burn and I was offered them by the
owner before they became ashes and smoke. Some people seem to enjoy attacking
others, when they should ask us where we got the wood before they start their
ignorant remarks in front of others. Just my thoughts. Things like this ever
happen to any of you?
Glenn Hodges
Nashville, GA.



Unless otherwise stated all references to location refer to Western Australia

Same experience with anti-hunters. They will sit in a steak house and
describe the evils of deer hunting.

The usual thing to do is to start a sob story about how some evil
loggers were destroying these old rainforests, and how you begged and
pleaded for some meager scraps so you could create something to
remember the poor trees by, and since you seem to care so much about
remembering the plight of the poor old growth trees, wouldn't you like
to buy this lovely bowl so when your friends look at it you can tell
them the sad story of the old growth forests, and how this is all
that's left of those majestic trees? ;-)

Same experience with anti-hunters. They will sit in a steak house and
describe the evils of deer hunting.


Hey man, the *sport* of hunting is NOT COOL or acceptable. Hunting for the purpose
of survival is totaly acceptable. And anyone in a steak house knows that the meat they
are eating came from the industry where the animals were raised for the purpose, it
ain't "hunted" wild animal meat. There's nothing wrong with the way I feel about it.

Alex

City boy!!!
--
No sense in being pessimistic - it wouldn't work anyway.

"AAvK" wrote in message
news:F4ugd.49770$bk1.32592@fed1read05...

Same experience with anti-hunters. They will sit in a steak house and
describe the evils of deer hunting.


Hey man, the *sport* of hunting is NOT COOL or acceptable. Hunting for
the purpose
of survival is totaly acceptable. And anyone in a steak house knows that
the meat they
are eating came from the industry where the animals were raised for the
purpose, it
ain't "hunted" wild animal meat. There's nothing wrong with the way I
feel about it.

Alex

I had kind of a eerie, trollish sensation fter I sent that one.

Sorry! (not about hunting. About the troll post)

City boy!!!
--
No sense in being pessimistic - it wouldn't work anyway.

"AAvK" wrote in message
news:F4ugd.49770$bk1.32592@fed1read05...

Same experience with anti-hunters. They will sit in a steak house and
describe the evils of deer hunting.


Hey man, the *sport* of hunting is NOT COOL or acceptable. Hunting for
the purpose
of survival is totaly acceptable. And anyone in a steak house knows
that the meat they
are eating came from the industry where the animals were raised for the
purpose, it
ain't "hunted" wild animal meat. There's nothing wrong with the way I
feel about it.

Alex

First moron you've met?

What's worse are the other turners who bait you about pricing and such
without identifying themselves as such up front. Standard answer to them
and price=art snobs is that my prices are suggested minimums.

"Ghodges2" wrote in message
...
A guy approaches my exhibit booth and after looking at my 20 inch cypress
bowl,
and says it is terrible that you have cut down old growth cypress to make
this
bowl. I let him know that I did not cut the tree down, but the logging
company
that did had piled the butts up in a pile to burn and I was offered them
by the
owner before they became ashes and smoke. Some people seem to enjoy
attacking
others, when they should ask us where we got the wood before they start
their
ignorant remarks in front of others. Just my thoughts. Things like this
ever
happen to any of you?
Glenn Hodges
Nashville, GA.

"Ghodges2" wrote: (clip)says it is terrible that you have cut down old
growth cypress to make this bowl. (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ask him whether any lumber was used in the construction of the house or
apartment he lives in. Or the fence around it. Does he have a fireplace?
How does he feel about paper?

Oh, he's only worried about old-growth cypress. No, he's only worried about
posturing, and trying to make you feel bad. I wouldn't worry about it, or
bother to argue with him.

(Ghodges2) wrote:

A guy approaches my exhibit booth and after looking at my 20 inch
cypress bowl, and says it is terrible that you have cut down old
growth cypress to make this bowl. I let him know that I did not cut
the tree down, but the logging company that did had piled the butts up
in a pile to burn and I was offered them by the owner before they
became ashes and smoke. Some people seem to enjoy attacking others,
when they should ask us where we got the wood before they start their
ignorant remarks in front of others. Just my thoughts. Things like
this ever happen to any of you?
Glenn Hodges
Nashville, GA.

A True Believer. True Believers are everywhere. Their whole purpose in
life seems to be trying to make you feel bad or look bad in front of
others. You either have to ignore them or have a snappy comeback such as:
'What would Ghandi think about your attitude?'. A good place to find
snappy comebacks is any of the books by Stephen Potter particularly 'One
Upmanship'. IIRC, one of his favorite retorts was 'But not in the
south.' I believe that particular retort would have addled what little
brain your inquirer had and he would have wandered off in a daze to
another booth, or perhaps sought a quiet place to nap.

LD

A study should be done to see if "green" people are actually more green.
The last "green" president took a delegation of 7 jets to Australia for his
vacation and a trade mission to Asia took at least $200 million in travel
costs.

Derek

Hi Glenn, He sounds like the guy who disses all Lawyers (substitute his
favorite hate subject), until he needs one. Then it's the old some of
his best friends are (repeat previous substitution) cop out.

You should have told him that you had to cut down all the trees in the
hammock to kill the bears robbing the bee's honey combs. Assure him not
to worry as you used most of the wood to distill shine and make divining
rods to dowse for gas, oil & water,.... but then, the cruel and unusual
punishment crowd would be after you.

BTW, did he like your bowl or will your finish destroy all the ozone in
S. Georgia?

Turn to Safety, Arch

Fortiter,


http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings

Hey guys, why don't you take this to rec.guns.hunt kill or something
like that and let us be.

ted harris wrote:
In news:AAvK typed:

Hey man, the *sport* of hunting is NOT COOL or acceptable. Hunting for
the purpose
of survival is totaly acceptable. And anyone in a steak house knows that
the meat they are eating came from the industry where the animals were
raised for the purpose, it ain't "hunted" wild animal meat. There's
nothing wrong with the way I feel about it.

Alex


Hey Alex,
Why don't you do a little research on the subject before you form an
opinion? Or are you one fo those tree huggers that thinks a deer shouldn't
be shot because it's cute, or pretty. Gimme a break. What you don't know
is that the deer population would starve to death and possibly become
extinct if it weren't for the hunting season. Besides, about 99.999 percent
of the people that hunt actually eat it!

AAvK wrote:

Same experience with anti-hunters. They will sit in a steak house and
describe the evils of deer hunting.



Hey man, the *sport* of hunting is NOT COOL or acceptable. Hunting for the purpose
of survival is totaly acceptable. And anyone in a steak house knows that the meat they
are eating came from the industry where the animals were raised for the purpose, it
ain't "hunted" wild animal meat. There's nothing wrong with the way I feel about it.

Poppycock. An animal dies either way. It isn't the killing of the animal
that's the thrill; it's getting out in the woods, breathing fresh air, working
hard, learning, quieting your mind, etc. that is the real draw. That fact that
you can supply your family with artificial hormone-free meat is icing on the
cake. A hunter's bullet is generally a better death than most animals
experience in the wild. Man's a preditor; hunting is just part of the natural
order of things. Some prefer to hunt in the wild where the outcome is
uncertain. Some prefer to hunt in a pen knee deep in manure where the outcome
is certain.

Go to a feed lot some time. I'd much rather be a deer that lived it's life free
before being taken by a hunter than a cow that's raised in it's own squalor,
feed unnatural food, and conked on the head by a hammer. They may be raised for
that purpose, but they live miserable pathetic lives...

....Kevin
--
Kevin & Theresa Miller
Juneau, Alaska
http://www.alaska.net/~atftb

Arch, I didn' t know I would start all this lawyer, hunting stuff. The guy was
a college professor, and I told him that the company that did the cutting was
owed by a big family around here, and the former president of a prestigous
Georgia University was a member of that family and was also one of the owners
of the company. I guess it was as much the fault of the elete colleges as the
corporate world, but it damn sure wasn't mine. He decided he had jumped on the
wrong todyfrog.

Nashville, Ga.
(not making any shine now)

I like my venison, moose and elk a little on the rare side. Flame On!!

Tom

--
Remove the 'p' from 'shaw' to e-mail me.
"RonB" wrote in message
news:nhvgd.36523$EZ.5132@okepread07...
I had kind of a eerie, trollish sensation fter I sent that one.

Sorry! (not about hunting. About the troll post)

City boy!!!
--
No sense in being pessimistic - it wouldn't work anyway.

"AAvK" wrote in message
news:F4ugd.49770$bk1.32592@fed1read05...

Same experience with anti-hunters. They will sit in a steak house
and
describe the evils of deer hunting.


Hey man, the *sport* of hunting is NOT COOL or acceptable. Hunting
for
the purpose
of survival is totaly acceptable. And anyone in a steak house knows
that the meat they
are eating came from the industry where the animals were raised for
the
purpose, it
ain't "hunted" wild animal meat. There's nothing wrong with the way I
feel about it.

Alex

In news:AAvK typed:
Hey man, the *sport* of hunting is NOT COOL or acceptable. Hunting for
the purpose
of survival is totaly acceptable. And anyone in a steak house knows that
the meat they are eating came from the industry where the animals were
raised for the purpose, it ain't "hunted" wild animal meat. There's
nothing wrong with the way I feel about it.

Alex

Hey Alex,
Why don't you do a little research on the subject before you form an
opinion? Or are you one fo those tree huggers that thinks a deer shouldn't
be shot because it's cute, or pretty. Gimme a break. What you don't know
is that the deer population would starve to death and possibly become
extinct if it weren't for the hunting season. Besides, about 99.999 percent
of the people that hunt actually eat it!
--
Ted Harris

Tasty stuff that scorched animal carcass,'sides, if God didn't want man
to eat animals he'd have not made them outta meat!

Tom Storey wrote:
I like my venison, moose and elk a little on the rare side. Flame On!!

Tom

"ted harris" wrote in message ...
In news:AAvK typed:
Hey man, the *sport* of hunting is NOT COOL or acceptable. Hunting for
the purpose
of survival is totaly acceptable. And anyone in a steak house knows that
the meat they are eating came from the industry where the animals were
raised for the purpose, it ain't "hunted" wild animal meat. There's
nothing wrong with the way I feel about it.

Alex

Hey Alex,
Why don't you do a little research on the subject before you form an
opinion? Or are you one fo those tree huggers that thinks a deer shouldn't
be shot because it's cute, or pretty. Gimme a break. What you don't know
is that the deer population would starve to death and possibly become
extinct if it weren't for the hunting season. Besides, about 99.999 percent
of the people that hunt actually eat it!


i don't think killing a defenseless animal is much of a sport. now,
if the animal can somehow kill you if you mess up, that's something.

let me get this straight - you say the deer population will starve to death
and go extinct if we don't hunt and kill deer? Are you serious? There is a
deer population problem. If we don't hunt the deer, some will starve. but
they won't all starve, and they won't go extinct because of underhunting -
that's just not the way ecosytems work. A hard winter with waaaayyy too
many deer could easily lead to the detah of a huge number of deer and you
would see a wildly varying population, but not extinction.

I am not a hunter, and I don't like fishing either, but you are free to hunt
and fish anything that is in abundance. And you can maybe make yourself
(and some others) feel better by saying "they would starve anyway".

I think deer shouldn't be shot because the wolves need something to eat -
you aren't one of those hunter/rancher dudes that thinks wolves are bad
because they eat the cute little lambs, are you???

(please note sarcasm in the above post)


Hey Alex,
Why don't you do a little research on the subject before you form an
opinion? Or are you one fo those tree huggers that thinks a deer
shouldn't
be shot because it's cute, or pretty. Gimme a break. What you don't know
is that the deer population would starve to death and possibly become
extinct if it weren't for the hunting season. Besides, about 99.999
percent
of the people that hunt actually eat it!
--
Ted Harris

Has nothing to do with tree huggers, hunters, houses or anything else.
Has to do only with the fact that some people with low self esteem try
to build themselves up by tearing others down. It wouldn't matter if
it were cypress trees, pearls, diamonds, or plastic trinkets. They'd
find something to criticize. They are the same people that if you
said, "Isn't it a beautiful day" (and it was 75 degrees, sunny and
balmy outside) they would find something about the weather to complain
about. Any comeback will only fuel the fire and encourage them to tear
you down more. So just smile at them and wish them a good day and go
on to the next customer. And remember that their problem is THEIR
problem and not yours, so don't get hooked by their argumentativeness.

Earl

"Tom Storey" wrote in
news:16Cgd.58679$nl.5596@pd7tw3no:

I like my venison, moose and elk a little on the rare side. Flame On!!

Tom


Yup.

Hank

A few years ago I got interested in varmint hunting, reducing the population
of groundhogs that were overrunning my father-in-laws farm. They were
undermining his barns and pockmarking his pastures with burrows. Cows or
horses (or humans!) could break a leg.

Anyway, I visit a varmint hunting website and a few days later started
getting hate emails from some woman in Pennsylvania who thought I must be
the spawn of Satan. I politely explained the need to reduce the population
and the logic. Her response: "Why not pipe loud music into their little
burrows and maybe they will go somewhere else?" I told her I had no idea
what type of music groundhogs didn't like!

Barry



"AAvK" wrote in message
news:F4ugd.49770$bk1.32592@fed1read05...

Same experience with anti-hunters. They will sit in a steak house and
describe the evils of deer hunting.


Hey man, the *sport* of hunting is NOT COOL or acceptable. Hunting for the
purpose
of survival is totaly acceptable. And anyone in a steak house knows that
the meat they
are eating came from the industry where the animals were raised for the
purpose, it
ain't "hunted" wild animal meat. There's nothing wrong with the way I feel
about it.

Alex

Defenseless? You ought to see the front of my Jeep! Over $2000 in damages
and the deer walked away. Well, actually he RAN away. Unlike my Jeep.

Barry


"Marty Feldman" wrote in message
om...
"ted harris" wrote in message
...
In news:AAvK typed:
Hey man, the *sport* of hunting is NOT COOL or acceptable. Hunting for
the purpose
of survival is totaly acceptable. And anyone in a steak house knows
that
the meat they are eating came from the industry where the animals were
raised for the purpose, it ain't "hunted" wild animal meat. There's
nothing wrong with the way I feel about it.

Alex

Hey Alex,
Why don't you do a little research on the subject before you form an
opinion? Or are you one fo those tree huggers that thinks a deer
shouldn't
be shot because it's cute, or pretty. Gimme a break. What you don't
know
is that the deer population would starve to death and possibly become
extinct if it weren't for the hunting season. Besides, about 99.999
percent
of the people that hunt actually eat it!


i don't think killing a defenseless animal is much of a sport. now,
if the animal can somehow kill you if you mess up, that's something.

Small world, huh?


"Ghodges2" wrote in message
...
Arch, I didn' t know I would start all this lawyer, hunting stuff. The
guy was
a college professor, and I told him that the company that did the cutting
was
owed by a big family around here, and the former president of a prestigous
Georgia University was a member of that family and was also one of the
owners
of the company. I guess it was as much the fault of the elete colleges as
the
corporate world, but it damn sure wasn't mine. He decided he had jumped
on the
wrong todyfrog.

Nashville, Ga.
(not making any shine now)

Hmmmmmmmm....................think I will go turn a few ornaments.........


"Earl" wrote in message
om...
Has nothing to do with tree huggers, hunters, houses or anything else.
Has to do only with the fact that some people with low self esteem try
to build themselves up by tearing others down. It wouldn't matter if
it were cypress trees, pearls, diamonds, or plastic trinkets. They'd
find something to criticize. They are the same people that if you
said, "Isn't it a beautiful day" (and it was 75 degrees, sunny and
balmy outside) they would find something about the weather to complain
about. Any comeback will only fuel the fire and encourage them to tear
you down more. So just smile at them and wish them a good day and go
on to the next customer. And remember that their problem is THEIR
problem and not yours, so don't get hooked by their argumentativeness.

Earl

I have had two under-25s and two middle-aged people on my car insurance -
four cars - for years. One year three of the four vehicles took deer, but
the company paid their thousands without complaint, and without raising the
rate.

Have only personally been to two human fatalities in vehicle/deer incidents,
but there is a big difference in the way people perceive them. Was on a
motorcycle/deer collision working on the oozing roadrash strawberry that
used to be a rider (also humerus/ tibia), and was forced to keep answering
rubbernecking motorists who wanted to know if she was going to keep the
venison.

"Barry N. Turner" wrote in message
...
We are so over populated with whitetail deer in our area, we may lose our
Jeep Grand Cherokee population..................

Many thanks George. You have turned the tree huggers against the white
tails. Maybe the Green People will let up on us now and you and Glenn
can turn some western white and cypress. There's hope!

Turn to Safety, Arch

Fortiter,


http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings

Ever step between a rutting Buck and a "heated" doe? Just watch the Citi
bank "magic rabbit" commercal!
--
No sense in being pessimistic - it wouldn't work anyway.

"Marty Feldman" wrote in message
om...
"ted harris" wrote in message
...
In news:AAvK typed:
Hey man, the *sport* of hunting is NOT COOL or acceptable. Hunting
for
the purpose
of survival is totaly acceptable. And anyone in a steak house knows
that
the meat they are eating came from the industry where the animals
were
raised for the purpose, it ain't "hunted" wild animal meat. There's
nothing wrong with the way I feel about it.

Alex

Hey Alex,
Why don't you do a little research on the subject before you form an
opinion? Or are you one fo those tree huggers that thinks a deer
shouldn't
be shot because it's cute, or pretty. Gimme a break. What you don't
know
is that the deer population would starve to death and possibly become
extinct if it weren't for the hunting season. Besides, about 99.999
percent
of the people that hunt actually eat it!


i don't think killing a defenseless animal is much of a sport. now,
if the animal can somehow kill you if you mess up, that's something.

So, go and hunt them for meat. I got nuthing against that, it's the doing
it for sport that bothers me. I am sure you must have plenty of restaraunts
that will be happy to buy the meat, and other companies that will buy the
hides too. The rest of the rednecks didn't READ what I wrote in the 1st
place.

Alex

A few years ago I got interested in varmint hunting, reducing the population
of groundhogs that were overrunning my father-in-laws farm. They were
undermining his barns and pockmarking his pastures with burrows. Cows or
horses (or humans!) could break a leg.
Anyway, I visit a varmint hunting website and a few days later started
getting hate emails from some woman in Pennsylvania who thought I must be
the spawn of Satan. I politely explained the need to reduce the population
and the logic. Her response: "Why not pipe loud music into their little
burrows and maybe they will go somewhere else?" I told her I had no idea
what type of music groundhogs didn't like!
Barry


Enjoy it for sport then.

Alex

So, Alex............are you into turning because you need the
bowls.........or for the "sport" of it?

Honest answer, now!

Barry


"AAvK" wrote in message
news:IcRgd.68372$bk1.18534@fed1read05...

So, go and hunt them for meat. I got nuthing against that, it's the doing
it for sport that bothers me. I am sure you must have plenty of
restaraunts
that will be happy to buy the meat, and other companies that will buy the
hides too. The rest of the rednecks didn't READ what I wrote in the 1st
place.

Alex

"Barry N. Turner" wrote in message .. .
Defenseless? You ought to see the front of my Jeep! Over $2000 in damages
and the deer walked away. Well, actually he RAN away. Unlike my Jeep.

Barry

yeah, but was the deer wearing camo? dressed up like a streetwalker?
fishnet stockings and red lipstick? hiv positive?

So, Alex............are you into turning because you need the
bowls.........or for the "sport" of it?
Honest answer, now!


Honest answer:

That is kinda like "neither nor there". See? I do not turn wood, am not a tree
hugger either. I pay attention in this NG because I am an enthusiast. I would
like to be able to have a lathe, but considering my current living situation, I
cannot. If I was doing it, it would be for the anything I could make, the art
and the beauty of it as well, possibly for makin' some dollars too. Some things
I have seen are strictly mind-blowing.

Honest enough for you?

Alex

yeah, but was the deer wearing camo? dressed up like a streetwalker?
fishnet stockings and red lipstick? hiv positive?


Mr. Feldman I thought you were dead, huh? So you went into hiding and took up
turning as a hobby or what? How's that hump anyway... does it still shift from
one side to the other?

Alex

"AAvK" wrote: (clip) If I was doing it, it would be for the anything I
could make, the art and the beauty of it as well, (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So we can consider you a "virtual" turner.

Probably not Marty but I've seen a few tree-huggers and trolls in that garb
and with that affliction.

Tom
--
Remove the 'p' from 'shaw' to e-mail me.
"Marty Feldman" wrote in message
om...
"Barry N. Turner" wrote in message
.. .
Defenseless? You ought to see the front of my Jeep! Over $2000 in
damages
and the deer walked away. Well, actually he RAN away. Unlike my Jeep.

Barry

yeah, but was the deer wearing camo? dressed up like a streetwalker?
fishnet stockings and red lipstick? hiv positive?

So we can consider you a "virtual" turner.


zacly zacly zacly it man...

Alex

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:27:25 GMT, "Tom Storey"
wrote:

I like my venison, moose and elk a little on the rare side. Flame On!!

Tom
People Eating Tasty Animals?

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:56:43 -0400, "Mark Hopkins"
wrote:

I found out that I was one, years ago..
Seems like all I ever thought about was pussy...

No way man! You must be a lesbian!

"Henry St.Pierre" wrote in message
. 97.142...
"william_b_noble" wrote in
:

let me get this straight - you say the deer population will starve to
death and go extinct if we don't hunt and kill deer? Are you serious?
There is a deer population problem. If we don't hunt the deer, some
will starve. but they won't all starve, and they won't go extinct
because of underhunting - that's just not the way ecosytems work. A
hard winter with waaaayyy too many deer could easily lead to the detah
of a huge number of deer and you would see a wildly varying
population, but not extinction.

I am not a hunter, and I don't like fishing either, but you are free
to hunt and fish anything that is in abundance. And you can maybe
make yourself (and some others) feel better by saying "they would
starve anyway".

I think deer shouldn't be shot because the wolves need something to
eat - you aren't one of those hunter/rancher dudes that thinks wolves
are bad because they eat the cute little lambs, are you???

(please note sarcasm in the above post)


Hey Alex,
Why don't you do a little research on the subject before you form an
opinion? Or are you one fo those tree huggers that thinks a deer
shouldn't
be shot because it's cute, or pretty. Gimme a break. What you don't
know is that the deer population would starve to death and possibly
become extinct if it weren't for the hunting season. Besides, about
99.999
percent
of the people that hunt actually eat it!
--
Ted Harris






Always wondered what I was. I must be a wolf because I like to eat cute
little lambs.