On 2010-08-16, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus7071 wrote:

On 2010-08-16, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus7071 wrote:

On 2010-08-15, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus30661 wrote:

ALL HAIL EMC2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

All hail inexpensive PC based CNC control!!!

EMC2 and Mach3 are both derived from the original EMC and both have
about the same capabilities, just running on different OSes. There are a
few others out there, but they are fading away a bit due to EMC2 and
Mach3.

But only EMC2 is free as in freedom.

I'm sorry to say that you are incorrect there. Beyond the silly idea of
trying to equate the use of a programmer or programmers labor products
without payment with "freedom", it isn't true in this case either since
the core EMC software that EMC2 is based on was developed by NIST, a
government institution funded by our tax dollars, so you did indeed pay
for EMC/EMC2, just not directly.

Pete, there are two meanings to the word free, one is free as in free
beer, and another is free as in freedom. The latter sense means that I
can see, modify, and redistribute the source code on original
terms. This is what EMC is, free as in freedom, with me being free to
modify it or give it to friends.

i

Mach3 also has the flexibility to allow you to modify it such as custom
screens, G/M codes, scripting for special functions such as ATC control
etc. You also have the "freedom" to redistribute those custom portions
you develop, either "free" or commercially to other Mach3 users, the
other users just need their own inexpensive base Mach3 license.

That's nice.

But, can you look at the source code of Mach3?

i

On 2010-08-16, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus28874 wrote:

On 2010-08-16, Gunner Asch wrote:

Yes..you can. But others cannot. And it comes with 2 pantographs..good
ones..AND the Gorton tool and cutter grinder, which usually goes for
between $700-$1200 on ebay. Along with a ****load of Stuff.


By the way Gunner, I was thinking of sharpening end mills at home,
what sort of machine would you recommend for this?

i

Just remember that when you sharpen your end mill you'll change the
diameter, so you need to accurately measure it and mark the new size on
it so you enter the correct diameter for cutter compensation.

Yes, good point. I have no clue what sort of equipment shaeprns end
mills, or how their ends (square, ball) are resharpened.

i

Ignoramus28874 fired this volley in
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By the way Gunner, I was thinking of sharpening end mills at home,
what sort of machine would you recommend for this?


Me... I'm saving up for a Darex.

LLoyd

On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 21:00:41 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


Ignoramus7071 wrote:

On 2010-08-15, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus30661 wrote:

ALL HAIL EMC2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

All hail inexpensive PC based CNC control!!!

EMC2 and Mach3 are both derived from the original EMC and both have
about the same capabilities, just running on different OSes. There are a
few others out there, but they are fading away a bit due to EMC2 and
Mach3.

But only EMC2 is free as in freedom.

I'm sorry to say that you are incorrect there. Beyond the silly idea of
trying to equate the use of a programmer or programmers labor products
without payment with "freedom", it isn't true in this case either since
the core EMC software that EMC2 is based on was developed by NIST, a
government institution funded by our tax dollars, so you did indeed pay
for EMC/EMC2, just not directly.

It's one of the few good things the gov't has invested in.

--
Invest in America: Buy a CONgresscritter today!

Ignoramus28874 wrote:

On 2010-08-16, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus7071 wrote:

On 2010-08-16, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus7071 wrote:

On 2010-08-15, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus30661 wrote:

ALL HAIL EMC2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

All hail inexpensive PC based CNC control!!!

EMC2 and Mach3 are both derived from the original EMC and both have
about the same capabilities, just running on different OSes. There are a
few others out there, but they are fading away a bit due to EMC2 and
Mach3.

But only EMC2 is free as in freedom.

I'm sorry to say that you are incorrect there. Beyond the silly idea of
trying to equate the use of a programmer or programmers labor products
without payment with "freedom", it isn't true in this case either since
the core EMC software that EMC2 is based on was developed by NIST, a
government institution funded by our tax dollars, so you did indeed pay
for EMC/EMC2, just not directly.

Pete, there are two meanings to the word free, one is free as in free
beer, and another is free as in freedom. The latter sense means that I
can see, modify, and redistribute the source code on original
terms. This is what EMC is, free as in freedom, with me being free to
modify it or give it to friends.

i

Mach3 also has the flexibility to allow you to modify it such as custom
screens, G/M codes, scripting for special functions such as ATC control
etc. You also have the "freedom" to redistribute those custom portions
you develop, either "free" or commercially to other Mach3 users, the
other users just need their own inexpensive base Mach3 license.

That's nice.

But, can you look at the source code of Mach3?

Not unless your buddies with Art. My point was that Mach3 is
sufficiently "open" to allow you to do pretty much anything you need to
do to customize it for a particular purpose, including customize it to
support your commercial product, and the ability to perform that
customization is "free". I don't buy into the idea that the fruits of
your (or in this case Art's) many hours of labor should be "free" for
anyone to do with as they please. I believe that those who invest the
effort to develop that code certainly have a right to expect to be
compensated for the use of it. I'll also note that the only limitation
in the demo version of Mach3 is that it is limited to ~1,000 lines of
G-code and Art has posted on the support forums that if your application
works with that limitation you are free to continue to use the demo
version.

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote:

Ignoramus28874 fired this volley in
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By the way Gunner, I was thinking of sharpening end mills at home,
what sort of machine would you recommend for this?


Me... I'm saving up for a Darex.

LLoyd

Harbor Freight has / had a decent looking cutter grinder, but I can't
seem to find it on their new web site. That doesn't necessarily mean
they no longer carry it.

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:55:50 -0500, Ignoramus28874
wrote:

On 2010-08-16, Gunner Asch wrote:

Yes..you can. But others cannot. And it comes with 2 pantographs..good
ones..AND the Gorton tool and cutter grinder, which usually goes for
between $700-$1200 on ebay. Along with a ****load of Stuff.


By the way Gunner, I was thinking of sharpening end mills at home,
what sort of machine would you recommend for this?

i
==========
How much do you want to spend? Given that you like to "roll
your own"

For small volume see
http://www.lautard.com/tinker.htm
and
http://www.gadgetbuilder.com/Tinker.html
http://www.duncanamps.com/metal/proj...uorn/index.php
http://www.amazon.com/Quorn-Universa.../dp/0905100913


new store bought complete
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...&ci_sku=426245
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hG5vDfLxmI
http://images.harborfreight.com/manu...5999/45707.pdf


-- Unka George (George McDuffee)
...............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).

On 2010-08-16, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus28874 wrote:

On 2010-08-16, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus7071 wrote:

On 2010-08-16, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus7071 wrote:

On 2010-08-15, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus30661 wrote:

ALL HAIL EMC2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

All hail inexpensive PC based CNC control!!!

EMC2 and Mach3 are both derived from the original EMC and both have
about the same capabilities, just running on different OSes. There are a
few others out there, but they are fading away a bit due to EMC2 and
Mach3.

But only EMC2 is free as in freedom.

I'm sorry to say that you are incorrect there. Beyond the silly idea of
trying to equate the use of a programmer or programmers labor products
without payment with "freedom", it isn't true in this case either since
the core EMC software that EMC2 is based on was developed by NIST, a
government institution funded by our tax dollars, so you did indeed pay
for EMC/EMC2, just not directly.

Pete, there are two meanings to the word free, one is free as in free
beer, and another is free as in freedom. The latter sense means that I
can see, modify, and redistribute the source code on original
terms. This is what EMC is, free as in freedom, with me being free to
modify it or give it to friends.

i

Mach3 also has the flexibility to allow you to modify it such as custom
screens, G/M codes, scripting for special functions such as ATC control
etc. You also have the "freedom" to redistribute those custom portions
you develop, either "free" or commercially to other Mach3 users, the
other users just need their own inexpensive base Mach3 license.

That's nice.

But, can you look at the source code of Mach3?

Not unless your buddies with Art. My point was that Mach3 is
sufficiently "open" to allow you to do pretty much anything you need to
do to customize it for a particular purpose, including customize it to
support your commercial product, and the ability to perform that
customization is "free". I don't buy into the idea that the fruits of
your (or in this case Art's) many hours of labor should be "free" for
anyone to do with as they please. I believe that those who invest the
effort to develop that code certainly have a right to expect to be
compensated for the use of it. I'll also note that the only limitation
in the demo version of Mach3 is that it is limited to ~1,000 lines of
G-code and Art has posted on the support forums that if your application
works with that limitation you are free to continue to use the demo
version.

I do not really mind any of that, but personally I prefer free stuff
and I release a lot of things under the GPL myself. That is why I am
so happy with EMC2.

i

On 2010-08-16, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus28874 fired this volley in
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By the way Gunner, I was thinking of sharpening end mills at home,
what sort of machine would you recommend for this?


Me... I'm saving up for a Darex.

Darex what? Like this one?

http://www.darex.com/industrial-dril...sharpener.html

I am just trying to understand the basics of it, so if I come across
something at an auction, I will know what to look for.

i

On 2010-08-16, Pete C. wrote:

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote:

Ignoramus28874 fired this volley in
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By the way Gunner, I was thinking of sharpening end mills at home,
what sort of machine would you recommend for this?


Me... I'm saving up for a Darex.

LLoyd

Harbor Freight has / had a decent looking cutter grinder, but I can't
seem to find it on their new web site. That doesn't necessarily mean
they no longer carry it.

Item #46727

Ignoramus28874 wrote:

On 2010-08-16, Pete C. wrote:

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote:

Ignoramus28874 fired this volley in
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By the way Gunner, I was thinking of sharpening end mills at home,
what sort of machine would you recommend for this?


Me... I'm saving up for a Darex.

LLoyd

Harbor Freight has / had a decent looking cutter grinder, but I can't
seem to find it on their new web site. That doesn't necessarily mean
they no longer carry it.

Item #46727

Nope, that's not it. That's just a tool bit grinder, not a universal
cutter grinder. The one HF had was ~$750 or so regular price (add your
20% coupon of course). The grinders that handle rotary cutters like end
mills are a *lot* more complex than grinders that handle lathe bits and
the like.

"Pete C." wrote:

Ignoramus28874 wrote:

On 2010-08-16, Pete C. wrote:

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote:

Ignoramus28874 fired this volley in
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By the way Gunner, I was thinking of sharpening end mills at home,
what sort of machine would you recommend for this?


Me... I'm saving up for a Darex.

LLoyd

Harbor Freight has / had a decent looking cutter grinder, but I can't
seem to find it on their new web site. That doesn't necessarily mean
they no longer carry it.

Item #46727

Nope, that's not it. That's just a tool bit grinder, not a universal
cutter grinder. The one HF had was ~$750 or so regular price (add your
20% coupon of course). The grinders that handle rotary cutters like end
mills are a *lot* more complex than grinders that handle lathe bits and
the like.

I found it in an older catalog, it was item 45707 "Universal cutter
grinder" for $649.99

Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:47:35 -0500, Ignoramus30661
? wrote:

?Bought a new Saitek P880 joypad at a garage sale ($2).
?
?Looks like this
?
? http://ef.algebra.com/e/220652673897
?
?
?Ordinarily it would not be metalworking related, but I will put it on
?my Bridgeport mill.
?
?This guy here posted his configs using the same Saitek joypad on his mill:
?
?http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?...ds_With_E MC2
?
?I also removed and threw out a lot of unused wiring from the mill, it
?makes the cabinet look a little more user friendly inside. Still some
?left, going from pendant to the cabinet.
?
?i

Trackballs work very very well as a jog controller. Just a heads up....


http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate is a programmable
jog. I use one to edit video.

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:55:50 -0500, Ignoramus28874
wrote:

On 2010-08-16, Gunner Asch wrote:

Yes..you can. But others cannot. And it comes with 2 pantographs..good
ones..AND the Gorton tool and cutter grinder, which usually goes for
between $700-$1200 on ebay. Along with a ****load of Stuff.


By the way Gunner, I was thinking of sharpening end mills at home,
what sort of machine would you recommend for this?

i

KO Lee B300 with the proper setup or Darex E90 endmill sharpener. The
Darex will fit on a table top. The B300 is bigger, but not that big,
however it does require about a 36"x36" bit of floor space.


You have a surface grinder? Then there are a host of other fixtures for
shapening endmills.


Gunner


"A conservative who doesn't believe? in God simply doesn't pray;
a godless liberal wants no one to pray. A conservative who doesn't
like guns doesn't buy one; a liberal gun-hater wants to disarm us all.
A gay conservative has sex his own way; a gay liberal requires us all
to watch and accept his perversion and have it taught to children.
A conservative who is offended by a radio show changes the station;
an offended liberal wants it banned, prosecuted and persecuted."
Bobby XD9

Ignoramus28874 fired this volley
in :

http://www.darex.com/industrial-dril...grinders/e90-e
nd-mill-grinder-and-sharpener.html

Yep. That's it. It has an air bearing spindle that allows a bit to follow
a "tracer finger" so the flutes are re-ground precisely. Of course, it
will reduce the diameter of the bit, but quite reliably and accurately.

The Darex is sort of the "Cadillac" of end mill sharpeners. I find them
used, but in good condition, on Ebay for about $1400.

LLoyd

On 2010-08-16, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus28874 fired this volley
in :

http://www.darex.com/industrial-dril...grinders/e90-e
nd-mill-grinder-and-sharpener.html

Yep. That's it. It has an air bearing spindle that allows a bit to follow
a "tracer finger" so the flutes are re-ground precisely. Of course, it
will reduce the diameter of the bit, but quite reliably and accurately.

The Darex is sort of the "Cadillac" of end mill sharpeners. I find them
used, but in good condition, on Ebay for about $1400.

That's pricey, makes regrinding not economical on my scale. And the
Darex probably does not do ball ends, or even plunge cutting square
ends, right?

i

Ignoramus28874 fired this volley in
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That's pricey, makes regrinding not economical on my scale. And the
Darex probably does not do ball ends, or even plunge cutting square
ends, right?


My understanding is that it will do every profile.

It's pricey, yes, but you can find them cheaper if you get lucky.

LLoyd

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:27:41 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

Ignoramus28874 fired this volley
in :

http://www.darex.com/industrial-dril...grinders/e90-e
nd-mill-grinder-and-sharpener.html

Yep. That's it. It has an air bearing spindle that allows a bit to follow
a "tracer finger" so the flutes are re-ground precisely. Of course, it
will reduce the diameter of the bit, but quite reliably and accurately.

The Darex is sort of the "Cadillac" of end mill sharpeners. I find them
used, but in good condition, on Ebay for about $1400.

LLoyd

Darex is the low end of end mill sharpeners. Seriously. Cuttermaster
(which Darex copied), Harig, KO Lee and others are the middle of the
road.
http://cgi.ebay.com/CUTTERMASTER-UNI...-/310226012593

http://cgi.ebay.com/Harig-Airflow-Fi...-/110568230580

http://cgi.ebay.com/Harig-Airflow-En...-/130413731860
(no accesories)

http://cgi.ebay.com/WELDON-AIR-BEARI...-/280505039209

http://cgi.ebay.com/Kuhlmann-SU2-End...-/370310636848

However.,.that does not mean the Darex wont do a perfectly good job. I
have one somewhere...I think its still in my cargo container. Ill have
to dig it out next trip to LA and offer it up here.

Gunner


"A conservative who doesn't believe? in God simply doesn't pray;
a godless liberal wants no one to pray. A conservative who doesn't
like guns doesn't buy one; a liberal gun-hater wants to disarm us all.
A gay conservative has sex his own way; a gay liberal requires us all
to watch and accept his perversion and have it taught to children.
A conservative who is offended by a radio show changes the station;
an offended liberal wants it banned, prosecuted and persecuted."
Bobby XD9

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:51:31 -0500, Ignoramus28874
wrote:

On 2010-08-16, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus28874 fired this volley
in :

http://www.darex.com/industrial-dril...grinders/e90-e
nd-mill-grinder-and-sharpener.html

Yep. That's it. It has an air bearing spindle that allows a bit to follow
a "tracer finger" so the flutes are re-ground precisely. Of course, it
will reduce the diameter of the bit, but quite reliably and accurately.

The Darex is sort of the "Cadillac" of end mill sharpeners. I find them
used, but in good condition, on Ebay for about $1400.

That's pricey, makes regrinding not economical on my scale. And the
Darex probably does not do ball ends, or even plunge cutting square
ends, right?

i


This will work for you.

http://cgi.ebay.com/END-MILL-SHARPEN...-/230498705271

http://cgi.ebay.com/END-MILL-GRINDIN...-/190430776541

Then there are....

http://cgi.ebay.com/CUTTERMASTER-UNI...-/310226012593
(Id offer no more than $1000)

http://cgi.ebay.com/DAREX-E-85-ENDMI...-/330460740613

http://cgi.ebay.com/KO-LEE-tool-cutt...-/360254152165

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cincinnati-1-Uni...-/310230155606

"A conservative who doesn't believe? in God simply doesn't pray;
a godless liberal wants no one to pray. A conservative who doesn't
like guns doesn't buy one; a liberal gun-hater wants to disarm us all.
A gay conservative has sex his own way; a gay liberal requires us all
to watch and accept his perversion and have it taught to children.
A conservative who is offended by a radio show changes the station;
an offended liberal wants it banned, prosecuted and persecuted."
Bobby XD9

Gunner Asch fired this volley in
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http://cgi.ebay.com/CUTTERMASTER-UNI...DMILL-GRINDER-
/310226012593 (Id offer no more than $1000)

http://cgi.ebay.com/DAREX-E-85-ENDMI...-GRINDER-/3304
60740613

http://cgi.ebay.com/KO-LEE-tool-cutt...ll-milling-WOW
-/360254152165

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cincinnati-1-Uni...inder-/3102301
55606



Sigh... Worn, old, no collets, need new stones, none likely to have the
precision they were originally built with.

Y'know... when I go to sharpen an end mill, I want it to be "factory
new", except for the diameter, when it comes out of the machine.

What I don't want to do is spend yet another year re-building another
piece of old junk. I really want to spend my time machining parts.

I've used a Cincy... too much learnin' to do to make an even passable
job. It's WAY too complex for the "casual sharpener".

I've used a Cutter Master... it's about the same functionally as the
Darex, but WAY more expensive for one in the same condition.

The Darex E90 can be had in "almost new" condition for about 1/4 what a
similar-condition Cutter Master can. And despite it's "low end" status in
your book, the Darex offers the same precision and longevity for a lot
less money.

And Gunner... the first two "almost kits" you listed... what's that for?
You can't sharpen _anything_ on them 'til you build the rest of the
machine. It takes a bed. It takes a motor, it takes a cup stone, it...

takes some really long "building up" to get where I'd want to be with a
milling cutter grinder. Some people work, and some people only do
machining in their "spare" time.

LLoyd

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:48:13 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

Gunner Asch fired this volley in
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http://cgi.ebay.com/CUTTERMASTER-UNI...DMILL-GRINDER-
/310226012593 (Id offer no more than $1000)

http://cgi.ebay.com/DAREX-E-85-ENDMI...-GRINDER-/3304
60740613

http://cgi.ebay.com/KO-LEE-tool-cutt...ll-milling-WOW
-/360254152165

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cincinnati-1-Uni...inder-/3102301
55606



Sigh... Worn, old, no collets, need new stones, none likely to have the
precision they were originally built with.

True indeed. But..does he need that precision?

Y'know... when I go to sharpen an end mill, I want it to be "factory
new", except for the diameter, when it comes out of the machine.

Good on you. And one has to spend a bit of money to get that result, or
find work arounds to get "almost as good"

What I don't want to do is spend yet another year re-building another
piece of old junk. I really want to spend my time machining parts.

Indeed.

I've used a Cincy... too much learnin' to do to make an even passable
job. It's WAY too complex for the "casual sharpener".

Odd..Ive a B300 KO Lee..and it took me a couple hours to learn to use
it. Included a bunch of accessories like a Harig Air Glide endmill
sharpener etc etc etc. 5c motor driven gizmo, indexing head etc etc.

Like Iggy..Ive sources that others here dont have. Mine cost me a
service call. Hummm $186 traded for the grinder. I thought it was a
marvelous trade.

I've used a Cutter Master... it's about the same functionally as the
Darex, but WAY more expensive for one in the same condition.

Indeed. However its not aluminum either.

The Darex E90 can be had in "almost new" condition for about 1/4 what a
similar-condition Cutter Master can. And despite it's "low end" status in
your book, the Darex offers the same precision and longevity for a lot
less money.

The prices I showed were all within $200 of a used Darex. Or did I miss
something? And the prices were simply part of the ads for things Iggy
should be looking for. Im sure he can beat Ebay prices by a magnitude.

And Gunner... the first two "almost kits" you listed... what's that for?
You can't sharpen _anything_ on them 'til you build the rest of the
machine. It takes a bed. It takes a motor, it takes a cup stone, it...

It takes a surface grinder. Period. Iggy doesnt have one? Hell..he can
find them for $50 or less. Cup wheel and voila..he has a $200 tool and
cutter grinder that will do just hunky. Even a worn out surface grinder
will work fine with one of the fixtures I cited. As long as that cup
wheel spins....its good enough.

And a hell of a lot cheaper than a used aluminum Darex. Remember..I own
a Darex. It worked ok. But..only "ok" and I didnt spend $1200 for it
either.

But there are all sorts of Better options within his grasp. He is quite
good at finding Stuff and at damned good prices. I showed him what was
available and what to look for.


takes some really long "building up" to get where I'd want to be with a
milling cutter grinder. Some people work, and some people only do
machining in their "spare" time.

LLoyd

Indeed. However..I presented the info for Iggy..who has a lock on
finding surplus machinery in his area. In fact...several of the cites I
presented were intentionally from Chicago area.

I respect your opinion deeply. But I presented the info for Iggy, who
has resources others here do not have.

Gunner





"A conservative who doesn't believe? in God simply doesn't pray;
a godless liberal wants no one to pray. A conservative who doesn't
like guns doesn't buy one; a liberal gun-hater wants to disarm us all.
A gay conservative has sex his own way; a gay liberal requires us all
to watch and accept his perversion and have it taught to children.
A conservative who is offended by a radio show changes the station;
an offended liberal wants it banned, prosecuted and persecuted."
Bobby XD9

On 2010-08-16, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:48:13 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

Gunner Asch fired this volley in
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http://cgi.ebay.com/CUTTERMASTER-UNI...DMILL-GRINDER-
/310226012593 (Id offer no more than $1000)

http://cgi.ebay.com/DAREX-E-85-ENDMI...-GRINDER-/3304
60740613

http://cgi.ebay.com/KO-LEE-tool-cutt...ll-milling-WOW
-/360254152165

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cincinnati-1-Uni...inder-/3102301
55606



Sigh... Worn, old, no collets, need new stones, none likely to have the
precision they were originally built with.

True indeed. But..does he need that precision?

If I do not have that precision, it will not cut as well, I thought.


similar-condition Cutter Master can. And despite it's "low end" status in
your book, the Darex offers the same precision and longevity for a lot
less money.

The prices I showed were all within $200 of a used Darex. Or did I miss
something? And the prices were simply part of the ads for things Iggy
should be looking for. Im sure he can beat Ebay prices by a magnitude.

I will keep looking patiently. Far and wide.

i

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:05:00 -0500, Ignoramus28874
wrote:

On 2010-08-16, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:48:13 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

Gunner Asch fired this volley in
news
http://cgi.ebay.com/CUTTERMASTER-UNI...DMILL-GRINDER-
/310226012593 (Id offer no more than $1000)

http://cgi.ebay.com/DAREX-E-85-ENDMI...-GRINDER-/3304
60740613

http://cgi.ebay.com/KO-LEE-tool-cutt...ll-milling-WOW
-/360254152165

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cincinnati-1-Uni...inder-/3102301
55606



Sigh... Worn, old, no collets, need new stones, none likely to have the
precision they were originally built with.

True indeed. But..does he need that precision?

If I do not have that precision, it will not cut as well, I thought.

Grinding an endmill can be done "perfectly"..or "not half bad!" and the
precision is vastly different when measured. Just a heads up....dull
does not mean no precision and Precise does not necessarily mean
sharp...


similar-condition Cutter Master can. And despite it's "low end" status in
your book, the Darex offers the same precision and longevity for a lot
less money.

The prices I showed were all within $200 of a used Darex. Or did I miss
something? And the prices were simply part of the ads for things Iggy
should be looking for. Im sure he can beat Ebay prices by a magnitude.

I will keep looking patiently. Far and wide.

i

I have confidence in a Fellow Scounger of your caliber. Indeed!

Gunner


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