no affiliation

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bfs/1867161304.html

Van Norman #16 Universal Mill. Very handy machine in many wats that a
Bridgeport-type machine is not . . . cutter head can be loosened and
rotated to any angle from vertical to horizontal in minutes, returned
right back to accurately vertical. Table travel 21 inches. Approximate
weight 3000 lbs. Pick up here only, we can help out loading. Generally
very good condition, everything works, mechanically driven table. Lots
and lots of tooling, will include vise also. Ask for Paul.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:27:32 -0500, Ignoramus6705
wrote:

no affiliation

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bfs/1867161304.html

Van Norman #16 Universal Mill. Very handy machine in many wats that a
Bridgeport-type machine is not . . . cutter head can be loosened and
rotated to any angle from vertical to horizontal in minutes, returned
right back to accurately vertical. Table travel 21 inches. Approximate
weight 3000 lbs. Pick up here only, we can help out loading. Generally
very good condition, everything works, mechanically driven table. Lots
and lots of tooling, will include vise also. Ask for Paul.

Somebody..GRAB this!!!

Van Normans are one of the finest workhorse mills ever made.

My partner and I bought a #36 sometime back..its a big one...and Its
Farking Fantasitc!!

They are simply marvelous for things that other mills simply cant do,
without a ****load of speciality tooling, adapters and whatnot.

Snag it!!!!!!


Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:27:32 -0500, Ignoramus6705
wrote:

no affiliation

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bfs/1867161304.html

Van Norman #16 Universal Mill. Very handy machine in many wats that a
Bridgeport-type machine is not . . . cutter head can be loosened and
rotated to any angle from vertical to horizontal in minutes, returned
right back to accurately vertical. Table travel 21 inches. Approximate
weight 3000 lbs. Pick up here only, we can help out loading. Generally
very good condition, everything works, mechanically driven table. Lots
and lots of tooling, will include vise also. Ask for Paul.

Somebody..GRAB this!!!

Van Normans are one of the finest workhorse mills ever made.

My partner and I bought a #36 sometime back..its a big one...and Its
Farking Fantasitc!!

They are simply marvelous for things that other mills simply cant do,
without a ****load of speciality tooling, adapters and whatnot.

Snag it!!!!!!


Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

Iggy's waiting a reply on his $5 offer :-)

RogerN

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:57:55 -0500, "RogerN" wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:27:32 -0500, Ignoramus6705
wrote:

no affiliation

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bfs/1867161304.html

Van Norman #16 Universal Mill. Very handy machine in many wats that a
Bridgeport-type machine is not . . . cutter head can be loosened and
rotated to any angle from vertical to horizontal in minutes, returned
right back to accurately vertical. Table travel 21 inches. Approximate
weight 3000 lbs. Pick up here only, we can help out loading. Generally
very good condition, everything works, mechanically driven table. Lots
and lots of tooling, will include vise also. Ask for Paul.

Somebody..GRAB this!!!

Van Normans are one of the finest workhorse mills ever made.

My partner and I bought a #36 sometime back..its a big one...and Its
Farking Fantasitc!!

They are simply marvelous for things that other mills simply cant do,
without a ****load of speciality tooling, adapters and whatnot.

Snag it!!!!!!


Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

Iggy's waiting a reply on his $5 offer :-)

RogerN


If Iggy or someone else in Chi doesnt snag that mill..they are ****ing
daft.

Gunner


One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

On 2010-07-28, RogerN wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:27:32 -0500, Ignoramus6705
wrote:

no affiliation

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bfs/1867161304.html

Van Norman #16 Universal Mill. Very handy machine in many wats that a
Bridgeport-type machine is not . . . cutter head can be loosened and
rotated to any angle from vertical to horizontal in minutes, returned
right back to accurately vertical. Table travel 21 inches. Approximate
weight 3000 lbs. Pick up here only, we can help out loading. Generally
very good condition, everything works, mechanically driven table. Lots
and lots of tooling, will include vise also. Ask for Paul.

Somebody..GRAB this!!!

Van Normans are one of the finest workhorse mills ever made.

My partner and I bought a #36 sometime back..its a big one...and Its
Farking Fantasitc!!

They are simply marvelous for things that other mills simply cant do,
without a ****load of speciality tooling, adapters and whatnot.

Snag it!!!!!!


Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

Iggy's waiting a reply on his $5 offer :-)

RogerN



I am not buying any machinery atm

....
Somebody..GRAB this!!!

Van Normans are one of the finest workhorse mills ever made.

My partner and I bought a #36 sometime back..its a big one...and Its
Farking Fantasitc!!

They are simply marvelous for things that other mills simply cant do,
without a ****load of speciality tooling, adapters and whatnot.

Snag it!!!!!!


Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

Iggy's waiting a reply on his $5 offer :-)

RogerN


If Iggy or someone else in Chi doesnt snag that mill..they are ****ing
daft.

I must be missing something. Not a versatile machine for an HSM, industry
don't want an old unit like this. I don't see much value here. I can see a
use for some special odd jobs but most, like myself, just can't have all the
these special use units filling up limited shop space. For example, I've
often pined for a pantograph but can't justify the space it would take. I
came to the same conclusion with a horizontal mill and a shaper, just to
mention a few nice to have machines. Now, I did make room for both a sinker
and a wire EDM and I really shouldn't have.

Karl

On 2010-07-28, Karl Townsend wrote:
...
Somebody..GRAB this!!!

Van Normans are one of the finest workhorse mills ever made.

My partner and I bought a #36 sometime back..its a big one...and Its
Farking Fantasitc!!

They are simply marvelous for things that other mills simply cant do,
without a ****load of speciality tooling, adapters and whatnot.

Snag it!!!!!!


Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

Iggy's waiting a reply on his $5 offer :-)

RogerN


If Iggy or someone else in Chi doesnt snag that mill..they are ****ing
daft.

I must be missing something. Not a versatile machine for an HSM, industry
don't want an old unit like this. I don't see much value here. I can see a
use for some special odd jobs but most, like myself, just can't have all the
these special use units filling up limited shop space. For example, I've
often pined for a pantograph but can't justify the space it would take. I
came to the same conclusion with a horizontal mill and a shaper, just to
mention a few nice to have machines. Now, I did make room for both a sinker
and a wire EDM and I really shouldn't have.

I think that it is a great mill for someone who is looking to have one
manual milling machine. It could do a lot of stuff. I have no need for
it, having a Bridgeport Interact CNC mill, and I do not really buy and
sell milling machines for profit.

i

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:59:03 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
wrote:

...
Somebody..GRAB this!!!

Van Normans are one of the finest workhorse mills ever made.

My partner and I bought a #36 sometime back..its a big one...and Its
Farking Fantasitc!!

They are simply marvelous for things that other mills simply cant do,
without a ****load of speciality tooling, adapters and whatnot.

Snag it!!!!!!


Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

Iggy's waiting a reply on his $5 offer :-)

RogerN


If Iggy or someone else in Chi doesnt snag that mill..they are ****ing
daft.

I must be missing something. Not a versatile machine for an HSM, industry
don't want an old unit like this. I don't see much value here. I can see a
use for some special odd jobs but most, like myself, just can't have all the
these special use units filling up limited shop space. For example, I've
often pined for a pantograph but can't justify the space it would take. I
came to the same conclusion with a horizontal mill and a shaper, just to
mention a few nice to have machines. Now, I did make room for both a sinker
and a wire EDM and I really shouldn't have.

Karl



You dont...have a horizontal mill..or a shaper??

Blink blink......blink.

Ewwwww dude....I thought you were a home shop machinist?

Blink blink........

wow dude.....you just busted my bubble...sigh.

Nearly everyone I know has a horizontal mill and a shaper and a lathe or
two, and some sort of verticle miller and a drill press or two and a OA
torch and a welder or three.......

And you think that the Van Norman, which is both a horizontal mill and a
verticle mill of great power and rigidity and utility....is...unusable
in anyones shop......

Dude....you have me speechless....Im going to have to go lay down now
and try to forget what you just said.......damn.....


http://picasaweb.google.com/gunnerasch


Gunner


One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:41:13 -0500, Ignoramus6705
wrote:

On 2010-07-28, RogerN wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:27:32 -0500, Ignoramus6705
wrote:

no affiliation

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bfs/1867161304.html

Van Norman #16 Universal Mill. Very handy machine in many wats that a
Bridgeport-type machine is not . . . cutter head can be loosened and
rotated to any angle from vertical to horizontal in minutes, returned
right back to accurately vertical. Table travel 21 inches. Approximate
weight 3000 lbs. Pick up here only, we can help out loading. Generally
very good condition, everything works, mechanically driven table. Lots
and lots of tooling, will include vise also. Ask for Paul.

Somebody..GRAB this!!!

Van Normans are one of the finest workhorse mills ever made.

My partner and I bought a #36 sometime back..its a big one...and Its
Farking Fantasitc!!

They are simply marvelous for things that other mills simply cant do,
without a ****load of speciality tooling, adapters and whatnot.

Snag it!!!!!!


Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

Iggy's waiting a reply on his $5 offer :-)

RogerN



I am not buying any machinery atm


Iggy thinks his new hip slick and cool CNC mill is going to do
everything for him.

And while he is running parts on it..he is going to have to stand with
his dick in his hand when he needs to make something else..a jig or a
fixture..and his machine is loaded and tooled for the other job...

And we told him that way was madness.........


Buwahahahahahaha!!!


One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

On 2010-07-28, Karl Townsend wrote:

[ ... ]

If Iggy or someone else in Chi doesnt snag that mill..they are ****ing
daft.

I must be missing something. Not a versatile machine for an HSM, industry
don't want an old unit like this. I don't see much value here.

Industry wants CNC for productivity. A HSM does not need
productivity -- and it is *very* versatile.

The spindle changes from vertical to horizontal (with the
proper supports for the outboard end of the arbor) or any angle in
between. There are things which are a lot easier to do on a horizontal
spindle machine. This is the same feature which makes Gunner's Abene so
attractive.

And this is a *universal* mill -- which means that the X-axis
can be set at an angle other than 90 degrees. This, in combination with
the horizontal mill setup can be used for milling spiral flutes when
making special tools.

If it were local, and I had room for it, I would grab it and
retire my Nichols horizontal mill -- in spite of the matching name. :-)

I can see a
use for some special odd jobs but most, like myself, just can't have all the
these special use units filling up limited shop space. For example, I've
often pined for a pantograph but can't justify the space it would take. I
came to the same conclusion with a horizontal mill and a shaper, just to
mention a few nice to have machines.

Well ... I have a small shaper -- and the nichols horizontal
spindle machine. This machine would take the place of both a horizontal
spindle machine and a vertical spindle machine, so justifying the space
might be easier than you think. (Of course -- it is *not* CNC, and
converting it to CNC would be a major task -- especially adding extra
axes for the tilting head and such.)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On 2010-07-29, DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2010-07-28, Karl Townsend wrote:

[ ... ]

If Iggy or someone else in Chi doesnt snag that mill..they are ****ing
daft.

I must be missing something. Not a versatile machine for an HSM, industry
don't want an old unit like this. I don't see much value here.

Industry wants CNC for productivity. A HSM does not need
productivity -- and it is *very* versatile.

It is a great mill and much better than a Bridgeport, when it comes to
versatility and rigidity. Parts are probably harder to come by.

I want CNC for accuracy and repeatability.

The spindle changes from vertical to horizontal (with the
proper supports for the outboard end of the arbor) or any angle in
between. There are things which are a lot easier to do on a horizontal
spindle machine. This is the same feature which makes Gunner's Abene so
attractive.

yep

And this is a *universal* mill -- which means that the X-axis
can be set at an angle other than 90 degrees. This, in combination with
the horizontal mill setup can be used for milling spiral flutes when
making special tools.

If it were local, and I had room for it, I would grab it and
retire my Nichols horizontal mill -- in spite of the matching name. :-)


i

on 7/28/2010, DoN. Nichols supposed :
On 2010-07-28, Karl Townsend wrote:

[ ... ]

If Iggy or someone else in Chi doesnt snag that mill..they are ****ing
daft.

I must be missing something. Not a versatile machine for an HSM, industry
don't want an old unit like this. I don't see much value here.

Industry wants CNC for productivity. A HSM does not need
productivity -- and it is *very* versatile.

The spindle changes from vertical to horizontal (with the
proper supports for the outboard end of the arbor) or any angle in
between. There are things which are a lot easier to do on a horizontal
spindle machine. This is the same feature which makes Gunner's Abene so
attractive.

And this is a *universal* mill -- which means that the X-axis
can be set at an angle other than 90 degrees. This, in combination with
the horizontal mill setup can be used for milling spiral flutes when
making special tools.

If it were local, and I had room for it, I would grab it and
retire my Nichols horizontal mill -- in spite of the matching name. :-)

I can see a
use for some special odd jobs but most, like myself, just can't have all the
these special use units filling up limited shop space. For example, I've
often pined for a pantograph but can't justify the space it would take. I
came to the same conclusion with a horizontal mill and a shaper, just to
mention a few nice to have machines.

Well ... I have a small shaper -- and the nichols horizontal
spindle machine. This machine would take the place of both a horizontal
spindle machine and a vertical spindle machine, so justifying the space
might be easier than you think. (Of course -- it is *not* CNC, and
converting it to CNC would be a major task -- especially adding extra
axes for the tilting head and such.)

Enjoy,
DoN.

Well if I already didn't have a mill, I'd consider getting it.
Absolutely no room to put it. And I can't think of anything that I'd do
that I can't do with what I have.

Wayne D.

Ignoramus6705 wrote:

On 2010-07-29, DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2010-07-28, Karl Townsend wrote:

[ ... ]

If Iggy or someone else in Chi doesnt snag that mill..they are ****ing
daft.

I must be missing something. Not a versatile machine for an HSM, industry
don't want an old unit like this. I don't see much value here.

Industry wants CNC for productivity. A HSM does not need
productivity -- and it is *very* versatile.

It is a great mill and much better than a Bridgeport, when it comes to
versatility and rigidity. Parts are probably harder to come by.

I want CNC for accuracy and repeatability.

The spindle changes from vertical to horizontal (with the
proper supports for the outboard end of the arbor) or any angle in
between. There are things which are a lot easier to do on a horizontal
spindle machine. This is the same feature which makes Gunner's Abene so
attractive.

yep

And this is a *universal* mill -- which means that the X-axis
can be set at an angle other than 90 degrees. This, in combination with
the horizontal mill setup can be used for milling spiral flutes when
making special tools.

If it were local, and I had room for it, I would grab it and
retire my Nichols horizontal mill -- in spite of the matching name. :-)

i

Hmmm, so you're saying I should buy your mill and this one?

Can't really afford it sadly...