Been using Motzarella for "alt.home.repair" and "alt.autos.Pontiac". As of
three weeks ago I cannot access any of the postings. Also tried RCM, it
loads but only up to 6/30/2009. If you try to read a message you get
"Message is no longer available on the server".

Is Motzarella dead? Anybody here using it? Did my subscription expire
(never knew I had one)?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Been using Motzarella for "alt.home.repair" and "alt.autos.Pontiac".
As of three weeks ago I cannot access any of the postings. Also tried
RCM, it loads but only up to 6/30/2009. If you try to read a message
you get "Message is no longer available on the server".

Is Motzarella dead? Anybody here using it? Did my subscription expire
(never knew I had one)?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

Motzarella changed over to a different name. You should have a user name
and password for an account, those will still work with the new system.

This is the new version.
http://www.eternal-september.org/



--
Steve W.

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:48:38 +0000, Ivan Vegvary wrote:

Been using Motzarella for "alt.home.repair" and "alt.autos.Pontiac". As of
three weeks ago I cannot access any of the postings. Also tried RCM, it
loads but only up to 6/30/2009. If you try to read a message you get
"Message is no longer available on the server".

Is Motzarella dead? Anybody here using it? Did my subscription expire
(never knew I had one)?


Your ISP might have surreptitiously dropped access to the alt. hierarchy,
because of paranoia that some kid might see titties.

Hope This Helps!
Rich

In article , Rich Grise wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:48:38 +0000, Ivan Vegvary wrote:

Been using Motzarella for "alt.home.repair" and "alt.autos.Pontiac". As of
three weeks ago I cannot access any of the postings. Also tried RCM, it
loads but only up to 6/30/2009. If you try to read a message you get
"Message is no longer available on the server".

Is Motzarella dead? Anybody here using it? Did my subscription expire
(never knew I had one)?

Motzarella is now eternal-september (www.eternal-september.org).
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.miniatures.
warhammer/browse_thread/thread/fdbaadfba6089395


Your ISP might have surreptitiously dropped access to the alt. hierarchy,
because of paranoia that some kid might see titties.

He's not trying to access Usenet through his ISP. He's trying to access it
through Motzarella. And that's not going to work, as indicated above.

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:08:06 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:
In article , Rich Grise wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:48:38 +0000, Ivan Vegvary wrote:

Been using Motzarella for "alt.home.repair" and "alt.autos.Pontiac". As of
three weeks ago I cannot access any of the postings. Also tried RCM, it
loads but only up to 6/30/2009. If you try to read a message you get
"Message is no longer available on the server".

Is Motzarella dead? Anybody here using it? Did my subscription expire
(never knew I had one)?

Motzarella is now eternal-september (www.eternal-september.org).
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.miniatures.
warhammer/browse_thread/thread/fdbaadfba6089395

Your ISP might have surreptitiously dropped access to the alt. hierarchy,
because of paranoia that some kid might see titties.

He's not trying to access Usenet through his ISP. He's trying to access it
through Motzarella. And that's not going to work, as indicated above.

This "Motzarella" is a real thing? Besides cheese? I was ass-u-me-ing that
it was a gag name for "Mozilla".

Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks,
Rich

Steve W. wrote:
Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Been using Motzarella for "alt.home.repair" and "alt.autos.Pontiac".
As of three weeks ago I cannot access any of the postings. Also tried
RCM, it loads but only up to 6/30/2009. If you try to read a message
you get "Message is no longer available on the server".

Is Motzarella dead? Anybody here using it? Did my subscription expire
(never knew I had one)?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

Motzarella changed over to a different name. You should have a user name
and password for an account, those will still work with the new system.

This is the new version.
http://www.eternal-september.org/

Yep, gotta change everything.

You should have got a couple emails.

Is it just me, or does that name sounds a bit...creepy?

RBnDFW wrote:
Steve W. wrote:
Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Been using Motzarella for "alt.home.repair" and "alt.autos.Pontiac".
As of three weeks ago I cannot access any of the postings. Also tried
RCM, it loads but only up to 6/30/2009. If you try to read a message
you get "Message is no longer available on the server".

Is Motzarella dead? Anybody here using it? Did my subscription expire
(never knew I had one)?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

Motzarella changed over to a different name. You should have a user name
and password for an account, those will still work with the new system.

This is the new version.
http://www.eternal-september.org/

Yep, gotta change everything.

You should have got a couple emails.

Is it just me, or does that name sounds a bit...creepy?

Just a bit. When I first read the E-mails I wondered about the name
change. After reading the web site and the E-Mails again I STILL wonder...

I don't get the "for technical reasons we have to change the servers
part" It would seem that new servers wouldn't require a full name
change, unless there is some legalese behind it??

--
Steve W.

RBnDFW writes:

Steve W. wrote:

This is the new version.
http://www.eternal-september.org/

Yep, gotta change everything.

You should have got a couple emails.

Is it just me, or does that name sounds a bit...creepy?

It's a reference to the old days when usenet was pretty much just
universities, and September every year saw an influx of new students who
needed to be educated regarding netiquette. When AOL hooked up a usenet
feed, the eternal September began....
--
Klingon programs don't have parameters. They have arguments and win
them (Walter Bushell)

"Steve W." writes:

I don't get the "for technical reasons we have to change the servers
part" It would seem that new servers wouldn't require a full name
change, unless there is some legalese behind it??

There has got to be another story. No idea what it is, but there are no
"technical" reasons why the change would be necessary.
--
Klingon programs don't have parameters. They have arguments and win
them (Walter Bushell)

On 2009-07-29, RBnDFW wrote:
Steve W. wrote:

[ ... ]

Motzarella changed over to a different name. You should have a user name
and password for an account, those will still work with the new system.

This is the new version.
http://www.eternal-september.org/

Yep, gotta change everything.

You should have got a couple emails.

Is it just me, or does that name sounds a bit...creepy?

It is a reference to when usenet used to get flooded with
newbies every September as new students came on line -- and it took a
while to get netequette pounded into them.

Once AOL started offering usenet, and other similar ISPs, there
came a constant influx of newbies, who eventually outnumbered those who
knew how things worked on usenet, leading to the posting in HTML,
regular top-posting (instead of interleaved quoting), and similar
offenses -- and not enough mass of older users to pound sense into them.

So -- we are currently living through an "eternal September" --
even though places like AOL have dropped usenet -- after flooding it
with newbies which changed the flavor forever.

Enjoy,
DoN.

--
Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

"Steve W." writes:

I don't get the "for technical reasons we have to change the servers
part" It would seem that new servers wouldn't require a full name
change, unless there is some legalese behind it??

There has got to be another story. No idea what it is, but there are no
"technical" reasons why the change would be necessary.


It is, if they want to drop the registration for their old domain
name.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

"Michael A. Terrell" writes:

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

"Steve W." writes:

I don't get the "for technical reasons we have to change the servers
part" It would seem that new servers wouldn't require a full name
change, unless there is some legalese behind it??

There has got to be another story. No idea what it is, but there are no
"technical" reasons why the change would be necessary.


It is, if they want to drop the registration for their old domain
name.

That wouldn't be a technical reason. Maybe they didn't own the name
after all (I've heard that's happened many times to people who've
registered a domain and found out when they wanted to move that the
registrar owned it, not them) -- but that still wouldn't be a technical
reason.
--
Klingon programs don't have parameters. They have arguments and win
them (Walter Bushell)

"Steve W." wrote in message
...
RBnDFW wrote:
Steve W. wrote:
Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Been using Motzarella for "alt.home.repair" and "alt.autos.Pontiac".
As of three weeks ago I cannot access any of the postings. Also tried
RCM, it loads but only up to 6/30/2009. If you try to read a message
you get "Message is no longer available on the server".

Is Motzarella dead? Anybody here using it? Did my subscription expire
(never knew I had one)?

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary

Motzarella changed over to a different name. You should have a user name
and password for an account, those will still work with the new system.

This is the new version.
http://www.eternal-september.org/

Yep, gotta change everything.

You should have got a couple emails.

Is it just me, or does that name sounds a bit...creepy?

It's a reference to when AOL started carry Usenet for all their clients and
the quality of Usenet participation was forever affected.

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:55:28 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer
wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" writes:

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

"Steve W." writes:

I don't get the "for technical reasons we have to change the servers
part" It would seem that new servers wouldn't require a full name
change, unless there is some legalese behind it??

There has got to be another story. No idea what it is, but there are no
"technical" reasons why the change would be necessary.


It is, if they want to drop the registration for their old domain
name.

That wouldn't be a technical reason. Maybe they didn't own the name
after all (I've heard that's happened many times to people who've
registered a domain and found out when they wanted to move that the
registrar owned it, not them) -- but that still wouldn't be a technical
reason.

Perhaps someone owns Motzarella.com and is waving large sums of cash
at them for Motzarella.org to lock up all the names? Or someone
/else/ wants the name to set up their own cheesy sales channel?

Follow The Money - If the dollars offered are worth the hassle, you
move to a new name and sell the old one.

And no, I'm not going to go poking around at unusual names and
looking for hidden malware and viruses. You go right ahead...

-- Bruce --

"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message
...
On 2009-07-29, RBnDFW wrote:
Steve W. wrote:

[ ... ]

Motzarella changed over to a different name. You should have a user name
and password for an account, those will still work with the new system.

This is the new version.
http://www.eternal-september.org/

Yep, gotta change everything.

You should have got a couple emails.

Is it just me, or does that name sounds a bit...creepy?

It is a reference to when usenet used to get flooded with
newbies every September as new students came on line -- and it took a
while to get netequette pounded into them.

Once AOL started offering usenet, and other similar ISPs, there
came a constant influx of newbies, who eventually outnumbered those who
knew how things worked on usenet, leading to the posting in HTML,
regular top-posting (instead of interleaved quoting), and similar
offenses -- and not enough mass of older users to pound sense into them.

So -- we are currently living through an "eternal September" --
even though places like AOL have dropped usenet -- after flooding it
with newbies which changed the flavor forever.

Enjoy,
DoN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September