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How do you get the steering wheel off an old CJ5 Jeep? I have a '74 CJ5
that I want to put a new steering wheel on. I have a wheel puller but it
doesn't work on steering wheels this old. I've tried to find out a
method for getting the wheel off when there are no holes in the steering
wheel to screw into. But I'm stuck and so far nobody seems to know how
to take off the old steering wheels. So I thought I would give it a shot
here. Anyone know how you get the steering wheel of an old Jeep when a
conventional wheel puller doesn't work? Oh, and I've already tried the
rubber mallet to the back of the wheel method. That wouldn't do it either.

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How do you get the steering wheel off an old CJ5 Jeep? I have a '74 CJ5
that I want to put a new steering wheel on. I have a wheel puller but it
doesn't work on steering wheels this old. I've tried to find out a method
for getting the wheel off when there are no holes in the steering wheel to
screw into. But I'm stuck and so far nobody seems to know how to take off
the old steering wheels. So I thought I would give it a shot here. Anyone
know how you get the steering wheel of an old Jeep when a conventional
wheel puller doesn't work? Oh, and I've already tried the rubber mallet to
the back of the wheel method. That wouldn't do it either.


Put the nut back on, but only exactly flush with the top of the steering
shaft.

Put something in the floor board if necessary that will allow you to lift
the steering wheel with your knees, using your calf muscles.

Lay a flat piece of steel across the nut and rap with a hammer.

This works often, but not always. Be careful to go slowly at first, checking
the nut to make sure it still spins easily by hand. If you start to detect
any distortion, give up and go shopping for pullers.

You might also consider rigging a dent knocker to the wheel. If you have
one, and you can rig it without too much trouble.





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How do you get the steering wheel off an old CJ5 Jeep? I have a '74 CJ5
that I want to put a new steering wheel on. I have a wheel puller but it
doesn't work on steering wheels this old. I've tried to find out a method
for getting the wheel off when there are no holes in the steering wheel to
screw into. But I'm stuck and so far nobody seems to know how to take off
the old steering wheels. So I thought I would give it a shot here. Anyone
know how you get the steering wheel of an old Jeep when a conventional
wheel puller doesn't work? Oh, and I've already tried the rubber mallet to
the back of the wheel method. That wouldn't do it either.

Hawke


Put as much upward pressure as you can on it with your knees, put a brass or
AL block on the shaft and run an air hammer on it with a bumping or blunt
chisel. It'll vibrate right off...maybe.


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How do you get the steering wheel off an old CJ5 Jeep? I have a '74 CJ5
that I want to put a new steering wheel on. I have a wheel puller but it
doesn't work on steering wheels this old. I've tried to find out a method
for getting the wheel off when there are no holes in the steering wheel to
screw into. But I'm stuck and so far nobody seems to know how to take off
the old steering wheels. So I thought I would give it a shot here. Anyone
know how you get the steering wheel of an old Jeep when a conventional
wheel puller doesn't work? Oh, and I've already tried the rubber mallet to
the back of the wheel method. That wouldn't do it either.

Hawke


Find a short bolt & nut the same size and thread as the steering shaft.
Remove the steeling wheel retaining nut. Next fit the bolt & nut to the
steering shaft with half thread of each into the nut. Tighten the two
together. Strike the top of the bolt with a 2 lb hammer. Several blows
might be required, but it will loosen the steering wheel. I am assuming the
steeting wheel has a tapered fit.
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How do you get the steering wheel off an old CJ5 Jeep? I have a '74 CJ5
that I want to put a new steering wheel on. I have a wheel puller but it
doesn't work on steering wheels this old. I've tried to find out a method
for getting the wheel off when there are no holes in the steering wheel to
screw into. But I'm stuck and so far nobody seems to know how to take off
the old steering wheels. So I thought I would give it a shot


....
I had the exact same issue with my tractor. I ended up building a split
collar that bolted on below the wheel. Then a standard three lever puller
took it right off.

Karl




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Strike the top of the bolt with a 2 lb hammer. Several blows
might be required, but it will loosen the steering wheel. I am
assuming the steeting wheel has a tapered fit.
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I wish that OR a puller would work on my '68 Deutz, but I've tried
every year for the last five to get it off to no avail. Too much
banging on the shaft is not a good thing, since it's hard-shafted
right into the power steering unit.

Nobody around here has got a wheel with the right splines, anyway, so
I'll have to order one from neverland, if I ever get the old one off.

I've cooked it, I've Kroil'd it, I've frozen it, and I've made a
custom backup flange with bolt pullers. It just won't move.

And no... it's not cross-pinned.

It looks like some careful "machining" with the blue wrench is called
for.

LLoyd

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How do you get the steering wheel off an old CJ5 Jeep? I have a '74 CJ5
that I want to put a new steering wheel on. I have a wheel puller but it
doesn't work on steering wheels this old. I've tried to find out a method
for getting the wheel off when there are no holes in the steering wheel to
screw into. But I'm stuck and so far nobody seems to know how to take off
the old steering wheels. So I thought I would give it a shot


...
I had the exact same issue with my tractor. I ended up building a split
collar that bolted on below the wheel. Then a standard three lever puller
took it right off.


Similar to these split pullers Harbor Freight has on sale
this week?

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/...do?itemid=3979

"Large Bearing Separator

Use With Two-Jaw Pullers and Shop Presses

Designed for use on jobs where space does not permit the use
of puller jaws directly behind the part to be removed.
-Solid steel
-Black industrial finish

Capacity: 4-3/8''; Length: 8-1/2''; Threads: 5/8''-18

ITEM 3979"

Coupon good thru 08/03/09, $11.99 See:

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/html.../images/31.jpg

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On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:30:37 -0700, Hawke
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How do you get the steering wheel off an old CJ5 Jeep? I have a '74 CJ5
that I want to put a new steering wheel on. I have a wheel puller but it
doesn't work on steering wheels this old. I've tried to find out a
method for getting the wheel off when there are no holes in the steering
wheel to screw into. But I'm stuck and so far nobody seems to know how
to take off the old steering wheels. So I thought I would give it a shot
here. Anyone know how you get the steering wheel of an old Jeep when a
conventional wheel puller doesn't work? Oh, and I've already tried the
rubber mallet to the back of the wheel method. That wouldn't do it either.

Hawke




An all to common problem


I guess! First, thanks to all for the help and all the ideas. Now at
least I have some things to try and probably one of them will do the
trick. It also tells me that there is nothing wrong and that it's just a
matter of applying enough force to the wheel to get it to come off. The
trick will be applying enough force without breaking anything. I'm
really quite good at breaking things. So I'll have to make sure my skill
in that department doesn't keep me from the job of actually removing the
wheel.

Hawke
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How do you get the steering wheel off an old CJ5 Jeep? I have a '74 CJ5
that I want to put a new steering wheel on. I have a wheel puller but it
doesn't work on steering wheels this old. I've tried to find out a method
for getting the wheel off when there are no holes in the steering wheel to
screw into. But I'm stuck and so far nobody seems to know how to take off
the old steering wheels. So I thought I would give it a shot here. Anyone
know how you get the steering wheel of an old Jeep when a conventional
wheel puller doesn't work? Oh, and I've already tried the rubber mallet to
the back of the wheel method. That wouldn't do it either.

Hawke


Find a short bolt & nut the same size and thread as the steering shaft.
Remove the steeling wheel retaining nut. Next fit the bolt & nut to the
steering shaft with half thread of each into the nut. Tighten the two
together. Strike the top of the bolt with a 2 lb hammer. Several blows
might be required, but it will loosen the steering wheel. I am assuming the
steeting wheel has a tapered fit.

It's a tapered spline.
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"Hawke" wrote in message
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How do you get the steering wheel off an old CJ5 Jeep? I have a '74 CJ5
that I want to put a new steering wheel on. I have a wheel puller but it
doesn't work on steering wheels this old. I've tried to find out a method
for getting the wheel off when there are no holes in the steering wheel to
screw into. But I'm stuck and so far nobody seems to know how to take off
the old steering wheels. So I thought I would give it a shot here. Anyone
know how you get the steering wheel of an old Jeep when a conventional
wheel puller doesn't work? Oh, and I've already tried the rubber mallet to
the back of the wheel method. That wouldn't do it either.

Hawke


Put as much upward pressure as you can on it with your knees, put a brass or
AL block on the shaft and run an air hammer on it with a bumping or blunt
chisel. It'll vibrate right off...maybe.


That's how I always did it. I'd leave the nut half on the shaft so it
kept from hitting me in the face when it came. One hand was used on
the impact hammer, one hand lifted on the wheel, and one knee under
the wheel, attempting to balance the pull. It usually took under a
second to pop loose, but I had a good, long-piston CP hammah. I did
front end work and it took every pound of hammer force to loosen some
of that stuff.

As I was warning another mechanic pulling a wheel one time, it hit him
in the face. I missed saving him by || that much! The red mark on
his (luckily unbroken) nose and black eyes were fun topics for weeks.
(I learned with a near miss.)

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Mistrust the man who finds everything good, the man who finds everything
evil, and still more the man who is indifferent to everything.
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I'd try some PB Blaster on it, and then let it sit overnight to soak. Then
try whatever puller or method you think will work. That stuff works good.

Steve


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"Hawke" wrote in message
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How do you get the steering wheel off an old CJ5 Jeep? I have a '74 CJ5
that I want to put a new steering wheel on. I have a wheel puller but it
doesn't work on steering wheels this old. I've tried to find out a
method
for getting the wheel off when there are no holes in the steering wheel
to
screw into. But I'm stuck and so far nobody seems to know how to take
off
the old steering wheels. So I thought I would give it a shot here.
Anyone
know how you get the steering wheel of an old Jeep when a conventional
wheel puller doesn't work? Oh, and I've already tried the rubber mallet
to
the back of the wheel method. That wouldn't do it either.

Hawke


Put as much upward pressure as you can on it with your knees, put a brass
or
AL block on the shaft and run an air hammer on it with a bumping or blunt
chisel. It'll vibrate right off...maybe.


That's how I always did it. I'd leave the nut half on the shaft so it
kept from hitting me in the face when it came. One hand was used on
the impact hammer, one hand lifted on the wheel, and one knee under
the wheel, attempting to balance the pull. It usually took under a
second to pop loose, but I had a good, long-piston CP hammah. I did
front end work and it took every pound of hammer force to loosen some
of that stuff.

As I was warning another mechanic pulling a wheel one time, it hit him
in the face. I missed saving him by || that much! The red mark on
his (luckily unbroken) nose and black eyes were fun topics for weeks.
(I learned with a near miss.)

--
Mistrust the man who finds everything good, the man who finds everything
evil, and still more the man who is indifferent to everything.
-- Johann K. Lavater


Hawk needs a liberal solution. He should hire a union guy and pay him
overtime, workers comp, vacation, sick time, drug rehab, job training and
monthly cheese.


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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:45:48 -0400, the infamous "Buerste"
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"Hawke" wrote in message
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How do you get the steering wheel off an old CJ5 Jeep? I have a '74 CJ5
that I want to put a new steering wheel on. I have a wheel puller but it
doesn't work on steering wheels this old. I've tried to find out a
method
for getting the wheel off when there are no holes in the steering wheel
to
screw into. But I'm stuck and so far nobody seems to know how to take
off
the old steering wheels. So I thought I would give it a shot here.
Anyone
know how you get the steering wheel of an old Jeep when a conventional
wheel puller doesn't work? Oh, and I've already tried the rubber mallet
to
the back of the wheel method. That wouldn't do it either.

Hawke

Put as much upward pressure as you can on it with your knees, put a brass
or
AL block on the shaft and run an air hammer on it with a bumping or blunt
chisel. It'll vibrate right off...maybe.


That's how I always did it. I'd leave the nut half on the shaft so it
kept from hitting me in the face when it came. One hand was used on
the impact hammer, one hand lifted on the wheel, and one knee under
the wheel, attempting to balance the pull. It usually took under a
second to pop loose, but I had a good, long-piston CP hammah. I did
front end work and it took every pound of hammer force to loosen some
of that stuff.

As I was warning another mechanic pulling a wheel one time, it hit him
in the face. I missed saving him by || that much! The red mark on
his (luckily unbroken) nose and black eyes were fun topics for weeks.
(I learned with a near miss.)

--
Mistrust the man who finds everything good, the man who finds everything
evil, and still more the man who is indifferent to everything.
-- Johann K. Lavater


Hawk needs a liberal solution. He should hire a union guy and pay him
overtime, workers comp, vacation, sick time, drug rehab, job training and
monthly cheese.


Hey, then he'd get the hack Union result, too, huh? Excellent idea.

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impatience and quarreling, is to have some great business and
interest in your mind, which, like a sponge shall suck up your
attention and keep you from brooding over what displeases you.
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Hawk needs a liberal solution. He should hire a union guy and pay him
overtime, workers comp, vacation, sick time, drug rehab, job training and
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Hire "Millwright Dork"
Gerry :-)}
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I'd try some PB Blaster on it, and then let it sit overnight to soak. Then
try whatever puller or method you think will work. That stuff works good.

Steve




Thankfully, I can say that I have finally gotten the steering wheel off
my Jeep, and I do appreciate all the ideas and tips that I got. In fact,
of all the places I tried to find out how to do it the one place that I
got the help that I needed was here. I don't remember who posted it but
I got a webpage that showed a number of ways people removed the wheel.
They did say it was really hard to get the wheels off too. I tried the
method of putting lubrication on the shaft and then using my forearms
and knees to rock the wheel off. Didn't work. I had to stop when I
noticed a hairline crack in one of the wheel's spokes by the hub. I did
say I was good at breaking things. I finally went to HF and got a device
for pulling gears or bearings, forget which. That I attached to the back
of the wheel. Once I put the wheel puller on it the wheel came right
off. Another case of having the right tool is all you need to do any
job. Now that the wheel is off all I have to do is put on the new one.
But as you would expect that isn't going on without any problems either.
It's always something.

Hawke
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