wrote:
Liberal elites belatedly are now scared. 89-year-old divorced or
separated guy who knows he's soon dead anyhow - and thus has NOTHING
TO LOSE - carries out attack inside the regime's own capital as a self-
sacrificial attacker analogous to the suicide bombers of the Iraqi
insurgency. I'll bet MANY veterans his age at Legion and Veterans of
Foreign Wars halls are talking about it today.

Maybe that's why the government is now trying to register a list of all
the guns at VFW posts.

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Government Demands Inventory of All VFW Weapons

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
June 9, 2009
Editor’s note: Alex Jones has called the VFW and received confirmation
that the email mentioned below is genuine.

An Infowars reader has passed along an email sent to VFW commanders by
the Assistant Adjutant of the Department of Texas Veterans of Foreign
Wars indicating the U.S. Army TACOM (Tactical Army Command) is demanding
an inventory of all weapons held by VFW posts.

Email sent to VFW commanders
Inventory form

“While you may have had possession of this equipment for 20, 40, 60 or
100 years,” the email states, “it still belongs to the U.S. Military.”

The email arrived with an inventory attachment where all weapons are to
be listed and the document sent to the Department of Texas Veterans of
Foreign Wars. “This form will then be bounced off of the central
database of all Texas VFW Posts at U.S. Army TACOM to verify serial
numbers of each item that has been issued. This is a very extensive list
and goes back to before the VFW was founded. So if you have a cannon
from the Spanish-American War — it’s on the list.”

Many VFW halls around the country have decommissioned military weapons
on their properties along with uniforms, statues and flags from every
era. It is a common practice for VFW honor guard units to use M-1 rifles
made into blank firing devices for salutes at parades and funerals.
Weapons held by VFW posts are generally kept under lock and key in
storage rooms.

TACOM is not simply interested in blank firing devices and antique
rifles and pistols, however. “Weapons and Equipment consist of but is
not limited to, Rifles, Pistols, Mortars, Artillery, Tanks, Vehicles,
Aircraft, Missiles, Aircraft Carriers (sic), etc, from any period.”

According to the email, any attempt “hide” the items will be dealt with
severely. “Please do not try and hide this as all weapons and equipment
not accounted for will be reported to the FBI and BATF as stolen
military equipment,” writes Dan West, retired Sgt. USMC. “I am hopeful
that I need not remind anyone of the severity of punishment that can be
administered or the legal bills resulting from individuals or elected
officers of the Post having possession of stolen military weapons.”

The inventory of weapons at VFW posts is further evidence the government
does not trust veterans, even with antiquated and non-functioning
military equipment used primarily for display and historical purposes.

Last month the government took the unprecedented step of requiring
soldiers at Fort Campbell in Kentucky to disclose all of their privately
owned weapons and gun licenses.

“Military officials insist the policy is not connected to a recent
controversial Department of Homeland Security report that warned
disgruntled veterans could pose a national security threat. Rather, the
inventory of private guns is aimed at stemming what the Army claims is
an increasing number of accidental discharges by gun-toting soldiers,”
NewsMax reported on May 5.

RB wrote:
wrote:
Liberal elites belatedly are now scared. 89-year-old divorced or
separated guy who knows he's soon dead anyhow - and thus has NOTHING
TO LOSE - carries out attack inside the regime's own capital as a self-
sacrificial attacker analogous to the suicide bombers of the Iraqi
insurgency. I'll bet MANY veterans his age at Legion and Veterans of
Foreign Wars halls are talking about it today.

Maybe that's why the government is now trying to register a list of all
the guns at VFW posts.

-------------------------------------------------
Government Demands Inventory of All VFW Weapons

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
June 9, 2009
Editor’s note: Alex Jones has called the VFW and received confirmation
that the email mentioned below is genuine.

An Infowars reader has passed along an email sent to VFW commanders by
the Assistant Adjutant of the Department of Texas Veterans of Foreign
Wars indicating the U.S. Army TACOM (Tactical Army Command) is demanding
an inventory of all weapons held by VFW posts.

Email sent to VFW commanders
Inventory form

“While you may have had possession of this equipment for 20, 40, 60 or
100 years,” the email states, “it still belongs to the U.S. Military.”

The email arrived with an inventory attachment where all weapons are to
be listed and the document sent to the Department of Texas Veterans of
Foreign Wars. “This form will then be bounced off of the central
database of all Texas VFW Posts at U.S. Army TACOM to verify serial
numbers of each item that has been issued. This is a very extensive list
and goes back to before the VFW was founded. So if you have a cannon
from the Spanish-American War — it’s on the list.”

The govt has been collecting these loaned rifles for years, they are
turned over to the CMP for sale. THEY DON'T HAVE A LIST OF SERIAL #S
OF WHAT WAS LOANED OUT. WHEN IT WAS DONE DECADES AGO, RECORDS WEREN'T
KEPT OF SERIAL #S.

If you comply with this, you are giving them what they need to
confiscate the weapons. If they ask for the weapons, tell them you had
rifles donated by others, so you need a serial # list of what the govt
loaned.


David

David R.Birch wrote:

If you comply with this, you are giving them what they need to
confiscate the weapons.


In the hope that common sense will cut this thread short:

http://www.moaablogs.org/battleofthe...soldiersviews/

Kevin Gallimore

axolotl wrote:
David R.Birch wrote:

If you comply with this, you are giving them what they need to
confiscate the weapons.


In the hope that common sense will cut this thread short:

http://www.moaablogs.org/battleofthe...soldiersviews/

Kevin Gallimore

I googled and "Snoped" this and didn't find anything, but I don't see
where it contradicts my response to the original post. I know of at
least one VFW post that was told to turn in their govt loaned M1903
and M1917 rifles, presumably for CMP distribution, but were never
provided with a serial number list. It still looks like a fishing
expedition resulting in serial number registration where the govt
can't identify specific rifles but wants the VFW posts to tell them
what they have.

I say, have the govt send a list of what the govt thinks the VFW posts
are supposed to have.

David

David R.Birch wrote:

I googled and "Snoped" this and didn't find anything, but I don't see
where it contradicts my response to the original post. I know of at
least one VFW post that was told to turn in their govt loaned M1903 and
M1917 rifles, presumably for CMP distribution, but were never provided
with a serial number list. It still looks like a fishing expedition
resulting in serial number registration where the govt can't identify
specific rifles but wants the VFW posts to tell them what they have.

I say, have the govt send a list of what the govt thinks the VFW posts
are supposed to have.

I guess I don't get your beef. There is no argument that the weapons
belong to DA. DA is belatedly trying to get a handle on the weapons it
_loaned_ out. You want to give them a hard time because they might
"grab" their weapons back.
I don't know how these weapons are distributed. But I can assure you
that if you give DA a hard time, they can find a reason not to do it any
more.

Kevin Gallimore

axolotl wrote:
David R.Birch wrote:

I googled and "Snoped" this and didn't find anything, but I don't see
where it contradicts my response to the original post. I know of at
least one VFW post that was told to turn in their govt loaned M1903
and M1917 rifles, presumably for CMP distribution, but were never
provided with a serial number list. It still looks like a fishing
expedition resulting in serial number registration where the govt
can't identify specific rifles but wants the VFW posts to tell them
what they have.

I say, have the govt send a list of what the govt thinks the VFW posts
are supposed to have.

I guess I don't get your beef. There is no argument that the weapons
belong to DA.

Yes, there is. Rifles suitable for honor guards are often donated to
VFW posts. How do you know if that M1903 or M1917 is a loaner or a
donation?

DA is belatedly trying to get a handle on the weapons it
_loaned_ out. You want to give them a hard time because they might
"grab" their weapons back.

Why would the DA care about an arm so obsolete? If they can identify
what they loaned out, fine, if they can't, why should that be the
problem of the VFW post?

I don't know how these weapons are distributed. But I can assure you
that if you give DA a hard time, they can find a reason not to do it any
more.

They haven't done it in a LONG time anyway. Surplus obsolete riles now
go to the CMP.

David