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Nope..its definately not over yet...Obama
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Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2009 20:15:10 -0700, Dikfer wrote: Gummer never has gotten the refereneces right. 1898 Case SCOTUS http://supreme.justia.com/us/169/649/case.html UNITED STATES V. WONG KIM ARK, 169 U. S. 649 (1898) The gist is that anyone born on US soil (Hawaii was a state in 1961 and still is a state). is a natural born citizen. Next Case! The gummer the numbnuts accused me of not providing references. Well gummer old boy you need to learn how to research actual evidence not the He said she said it was on a blog somewhere, it was posted to the INTERNET so it must be true... The big question is...was he born in Kenya,, or Hawaii? According to his grandmother, and many members of his family..he was born in Kenya. They are very proud of him. I've been listening to this debate since before the election, and I have to think that the Republican Party had an army of lawyers picking over this very question. I would think that if they had been able to disqualify Obama, they would have done so. The story would have broken roughly a month before election day, so the Democrats couldn't recover in time. The media was also digging, and not all media were Obama supporters. I also think the Democratic Party researched this in some depth before Obama was nominated, because a late disqualification would have devastated their return to power. And made them look silly. I kinda doubt that we are going to discover anything new here. Joe Gwinn |
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On May 16, 7:40*pm, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
In article , *Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2009 20:15:10 -0700, Dikfer wrote: Gummer never has gotten the refereneces right. 1898 Case SCOTUS http://supreme.justia.com/us/169/649/case.html UNITED STATES V. WONG KIM ARK, 169 U. S. 649 (1898) The gist is that anyone born on US soil (Hawaii was a state in 1961 and still is a state). is a natural born citizen. Next Case! The gummer the numbnuts accused me of not providing references. *Well gummer old boy you need to learn how to research actual evidence not the He said she said it was on a blog somewhere, it was posted to the INTERNET so it must be true... The big question is...was he born in Kenya,, or Hawaii? * According to his grandmother, and many members of his family..he was born in Kenya. They are very proud of him. I've been listening to this debate since before the election, and I have to think that the Republican Party had an army of lawyers picking over this very question. *I would think that if they had been able to disqualify Obama, they would have done so. *The story would have broken roughly a month before election day, so the Democrats couldn't recover in time. The media was also digging, and not all media were Obama supporters. * I also think the Democratic Party researched this in some depth before Obama was nominated, because a late disqualification would have devastated their return to power. *And made them look silly. I kinda doubt that we are going to discover anything new here. Joe Gwinn Never underestimate the power of Gunner. :-) |
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"Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... In article , Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2009 20:15:10 -0700, Dikfer wrote: Gummer never has gotten the refereneces right. 1898 Case SCOTUS http://supreme.justia.com/us/169/649/case.html UNITED STATES V. WONG KIM ARK, 169 U. S. 649 (1898) The gist is that anyone born on US soil (Hawaii was a state in 1961 and still is a state). is a natural born citizen. Next Case! The gummer the numbnuts accused me of not providing references. Well gummer old boy you need to learn how to research actual evidence not the He said she said it was on a blog somewhere, it was posted to the INTERNET so it must be true... The big question is...was he born in Kenya,, or Hawaii? According to his grandmother, and many members of his family..he was born in Kenya. They are very proud of him. I've been listening to this debate since before the election, and I have to think that the Republican Party had an army of lawyers picking over this very question. I would think that if they had been able to disqualify Obama, they would have done so. The story would have broken roughly a month before election day, so the Democrats couldn't recover in time. The media was also digging, and not all media were Obama supporters. I also think the Democratic Party researched this in some depth before Obama was nominated, because a late disqualification would have devastated their return to power. And made them look silly. I kinda doubt that we are going to discover anything new here. Of course you are probably right. There would be no harm in seeing the original, and his sister's original side by side then. You know, as long as it's all settled and there is nothing to hide. It would just further affirm our position, and prove the non-believers as wrong. Wouldn't be any harm in showing it now, and having a good laugh at all the doubters, or would there? |
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On Sat, 16 May 2009 18:01:15 -0700 (PDT), pmv
wrote: The media was also digging, and not all media were Obama supporters. * I also think the Democratic Party researched this in some depth before Obama was nominated, because a late disqualification would have devastated their return to power. *And made them look silly. I kinda doubt that we are going to discover anything new here. Joe Gwinn Never underestimate the power of Gunner. :-) Heads up, ****wit. Frankly I dont care if he is a citizen or not. But its hysterically funny watching you Leftards doing the jiggy dance trying to prevent anyone from actually putting an end, one way or another to the question. And the deep question remains...why? Gunner "Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do--- his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him. The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies. He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?" NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates |
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Nope..its definately not over yet...Obama
On May 17, 6:11*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009 18:01:15 -0700 (PDT), pmv wrote: The media was also digging, and not all media were Obama supporters. * I also think the Democratic Party researched this in some depth before Obama was nominated, because a late disqualification would have devastated their return to power. *And made them look silly. I kinda doubt that we are going to discover anything new here. Joe Gwinn Never underestimate the power of Gunner. :-) Heads up, ****wit. Frankly I dont care if he is a citizen or not. But its hysterically funny watching you Leftards doing the jiggy dance trying to prevent anyone from actually putting an end, one way or another to the question. And the deep question remains...why? Gunner "Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with *minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do--- his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him. The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies. He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?" NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates Really? You REALLY don't care? I sort of had the impression that you did. Now, tell me what I've done to try to prevent anyone from actually putting an end, one way or another to the question". I've even agreed with you that it could be settled in court, and suggested that you go ahead and file the suit. The ball is most certainly in your court, or in the court of your party. Either **** or get off the pot. You, Gunner, started this thread. Bringing this discussion to this forum will do NOTHING to change the situation. Bringing it to court could. So quit you posturing and go out and do something. Or else, shut the **** up. We'll all be waiting with bated breath to see a copy of your court documents. |
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Nope..its definately not over yet...Obama
On Sun, 17 May 2009 04:34:52 -0700 (PDT), pmv
wrote: "Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with *minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do--- his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him. The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies. He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?" NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates Really? You REALLY don't care? I sort of had the impression that you did. Now, tell me what I've done to try to prevent anyone from actually putting an end, one way or another to the question". I've even agreed with you that it could be settled in court, and suggested that you go ahead and file the suit. The ball is most certainly in your court, or in the court of your party. Either **** or get off the pot. You, Gunner, started this thread. Bringing this discussion to this forum will do NOTHING to change the situation. Bringing it to court could. So quit you posturing and go out and do something. Or else, shut the **** up. We'll all be waiting with bated breath to see a copy of your court documents. The ball is in My court? A lonely medical cripple living in the backside of nowhere? Tsk tsk tsk...your buffoonery is noted with amusement. Now how about simply letting the various current challenges make it to court and let the judges decide? Snicker..Ill bet you and yours dont let them go full term. What are you afraid of? Gunner "Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do--- his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him. The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies. He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?" NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates |
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