We just found a used upright air compressor.

When we pick this up and move it, is there any reason we could not lay
it on its side in the bed of the pickup, rather than hauling it upright
with the compressor on the top?

These things look top-heavy and unstable, but every time I've seen one
being transported it was upright (usually on a skid or pallet).

Is this like a refrigeration compressor with oil sluicing around and we
would need to let it sit for a couple of days to allow the oil to pool
back into the sump - or is it likely that we'd damage it just by putting
it on its side regardless?

Carla
Law of Close Encounters: The probability of meeting someone you know
increases when you are with someone you don't want to be seen with.

Drain the oil from the compressor, it can then be positioned any way you
want for transport. Remember to refill before use.

"Carla Fong" wrote in message
...
We just found a used upright air compressor.

When we pick this up and move it, is there any reason we could not lay it
on its side in the bed of the pickup, rather than hauling it upright with
the compressor on the top?

These things look top-heavy and unstable, but every time I've seen one
being transported it was upright (usually on a skid or pallet).

Is this like a refrigeration compressor with oil sluicing around and we
would need to let it sit for a couple of days to allow the oil to pool
back into the sump - or is it likely that we'd damage it just by putting
it on its side regardless?

Carla
Law of Close Encounters: The probability of meeting someone you know
increases when you are with someone you don't want to be seen with.

"Mach1" wrote in message
el...
Drain the oil from the compressor, it can then be positioned any way you
want for transport. Remember to refill before use.

"Carla Fong" wrote in message
...
We just found a used upright air compressor.

When we pick this up and move it, is there any reason we could not lay it
on its side in the bed of the pickup, rather than hauling it upright with
the compressor on the top?

These things look top-heavy and unstable, but every time I've seen one
being transported it was upright (usually on a skid or pallet).

Is this like a refrigeration compressor with oil sluicing around and we
would need to let it sit for a couple of days to allow the oil to pool
back into the sump - or is it likely that we'd damage it just by putting
it on its side regardless?


No real need to drain it, unless you roll the compressor with the vent down
and leaking.

Tim wrote:

"Mach1" wrote in message
el...
Drain the oil from the compressor, it can then be positioned any way you
want for transport. Remember to refill before use.

"Carla Fong" wrote in message
...
We just found a used upright air compressor.

When we pick this up and move it, is there any reason we could not lay it
on its side in the bed of the pickup, rather than hauling it upright with
the compressor on the top?

These things look top-heavy and unstable, but every time I've seen one
being transported it was upright (usually on a skid or pallet).

Is this like a refrigeration compressor with oil sluicing around and we
would need to let it sit for a couple of days to allow the oil to pool
back into the sump - or is it likely that we'd damage it just by putting
it on its side regardless?


No real need to drain it, unless you roll the compressor with the vent down
and leaking.


And, a couple of additional questions -

This is an old (1965) Wayne compressor - I googled and could not find
parts for them, so it may be not as great a deal as I thought.

Supposed to be 3HP, single phase but I don't know the compressor specs.

Anyone with advice about whether or not I should buy it - and what to
look for when we check it out?

Carla

On 2009-04-20, Carla Fong wrote:
We just found a used upright air compressor.

When we pick this up and move it, is there any reason we could not lay
it on its side in the bed of the pickup, rather than hauling it upright
with the compressor on the top?

No problem, just be careful.

These things look top-heavy and unstable, but every time I've seen one
being transported it was upright (usually on a skid or pallet).

Is this like a refrigeration compressor with oil sluicing around and we
would need to let it sit for a couple of days to allow the oil to pool
back into the sump - or is it likely that we'd damage it just by putting
it on its side regardless?

I would not worry

i
Carla
Law of Close Encounters: The probability of meeting someone you know
increases when you are with someone you don't want to be seen with.

On 2009-04-20, Carla Fong wrote:
And, a couple of additional questions -

This is an old (1965) Wayne compressor - I googled and could not find
parts for them, so it may be not as great a deal as I thought.

Supposed to be 3HP, single phase but I don't know the compressor specs.

Anyone with advice about whether or not I should buy it - and what to
look for when we check it out?

My advise is to not buy it, it is too small for some real life uses.

i

On Apr 20, 1:28*am, Carla Fong wrote:
...
This is an old (1965) Wayne compressor - I googled and could not find
parts for them, so it may be not as great a deal as I thought.

Carla

I'd ask local repair shops, they might have dusty old parts for it on
a back shelf. I found an old set of rings for my Kellogg-American
compressor that way.

On 2009-04-20, Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Apr 20, 1:28?am, Carla Fong wrote:
...
This is an old (1965) Wayne compressor - I googled and could not find
parts for them, so it may be not as great a deal as I thought.

Carla

I'd ask local repair shops, they might have dusty old parts for it on
a back shelf. I found an old set of rings for my Kellogg-American
compressor that way.

The price to pay for such a compressor, if it truly needs work beyond
the trivial stuff like copper tubing or regulators, should be
approximately zero.

i

Ignoramus32638 wrote:
My advise is to not buy it, it is too small for some real life uses.

3hp too small? Not for 90% of us, I'd say. You'd be in the other 10%
only if you're doing a lot of sand blasting, DA sanding, or spraying.

Bob

Bob Engelhardt fired this volley in
:

You'd be in the other 10%
only if you're doing a lot of sand blasting, DA sanding, or spraying.


Or if you have a shop with several machines that need air, like CNC
mills.

LLoyd

Carla Fong wrote:
And, a couple of additional questions -

This is an old (1965) Wayne compressor - I googled and could not find
parts for them, so it may be not as great a deal as I thought.

Supposed to be 3HP, single phase but I don't know the compressor specs.

Anyone with advice about whether or not I should buy it - and what to
look for when we check it out?
Carla,
I recently bought an old (they are all old) Wayne compressor. After a
lot of digging and a number of phone calls, I found a place that said
they had rebuild kits for the 5 horspower unit I have, but the kit costs
more than replacing the compressor pump. Wayne got sold to Dresser
Industries and then was shut down somewhere in there.

If you do buy this beast, and need parts, I can dig the name of the
place up out of my notes. I think it was Central Air Compressor in
Baltimore, MD. My suggestion would be to keep shopping, the parts
availability and prices make the Wayne not worth the trouble. I am
seeing lots of compressors going through the tools section on Craigslist
these days. I agree with the comments that 3HP is not enough for a lot
of stuff. The 5HP that I got will keep up with my bead blast cabinet,
but not with much margin.

Good Luck,

BobH

On Apr 20, 8:16*am, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
Ignoramus32638 wrote:
My advise is to not buy it, it is too small for some real life uses.

3hp too small? *Not for 90% of us, I'd say. *You'd be in the other 10%
only if you're doing a lot of sand blasting, DA sanding, or spraying.

Bob

For years I used a homebrew 1/2 HP compressor for sandblasting and
painting rusty car parts. With an external tank it will run the Sears
1-qt pressure feed sandblasting gun at 50 PSI for hours. The
compressor drops slowly while I'm blasting but catches up while I
refill the cannister. It had no problem keeping up with a 30 PSI spray
gun when I repainted the car.

The pulleys are sized for a little over 100% of rated motor current at
the 90 PSI cutoff. The built-in 12 Gal tank fills quickly so the motor
doesn't get very hot. I wrote a chart on the tank listing the max
pressure for several pulley sizes, based on measured motor current.

When sandblasting it stays between 50 and 70 PSI and an external fan
helps cool the motor and head. I hang up a large pressure gage to
monitor it and unplug the compressor when I'm interrupted and the
pressure (and temperature) rises.

I finally had to buy a larger compressor for my plasma cutter.
Otherwise the Sears 1/2HP cap-start motor and this compressor
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/2Z498 have been enough.

It's discontinued, I should buy spare parts so it never breaks.

Jim Wilkins

I moved a used compressor into my shop. Man it was heavy! Turns out
that the tank was 3/4 full of water. Draining it made the job much
easier.

On Apr 19, 10:56*pm, Carla Fong wrote:
We just found a used upright air compressor.

When we pick this up and move it, is there any reason we could not lay
it on its side in the bed of the pickup, rather than hauling it upright
with the compressor on the top?

These things look top-heavy and unstable, but every time I've seen one
being transported it was upright (usually on a skid or pallet).

Is this like a refrigeration compressor with oil sluicing around and we
would need to let it sit for a couple of days to allow the oil to pool
back into the sump - or is it likely that we'd damage it just by putting
it on its side regardless?

Carla
Law of Close Encounters: The probability of meeting someone you know
increases when you are with someone you don't want to be seen with.

You are right...larger upright compressors are very top heavy and can
squash you like a bug.

If you drain the oil sump, you can transport them in the horizontal
position.

If you transport them vertically, treat them with the proper respect
with PLENTY of tie downs.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

TMT

Carla Fong wrote:
We just found a used upright air compressor.

When we pick this up and move it, is there any reason we could not lay
it on its side in the bed of the pickup, rather than hauling it upright
with the compressor on the top?

Just remember that while laying the compressor on its side makes it less
likely to fall over while you're driving your truck (this shouldn't be
an issue anyway, as you should have the compressor tied down), it makes
it more likely to fall over while you're trying to get it into the
horizontal position. Possibly on top of you :-).

A crane is probably one of the safer ways to lay the compressor on its side.

Best wishes,

Chris

On Apr 20, 10:28*am, wrote:
I moved a used compressor into my shop. *Man it was heavy! * Turns out
that the tank was 3/4 full of water. *Draining it made the job much
easier.

LOL...yeah that happened to me at one auction also.

That is how experience is gained. ;)

TMT

On Apr 20, 12:03*am, "Tim" #__#@__.- wrote:
"Mach1" wrote in message

el...



Drain the oil from the compressor, it can then be positioned any way you
want for transport. Remember to refill before use.

"Carla Fong" wrote in message
m...
We just found a used upright air compressor.

When we pick this up and move it, is there any reason we could not lay it
on its side in the bed of the pickup, rather than hauling it upright with
the compressor on the top?

These things look top-heavy and unstable, but every time I've seen one
being transported it was upright (usually on a skid or pallet).

Is this like a refrigeration compressor with oil sluicing around and we
would need to let it sit for a couple of days to allow the oil to pool
back into the sump - or is it likely that we'd damage it just by putting
it on its side regardless?

No real need to drain it, unless you roll the compressor with the vent down
and leaking.

I disagree...as with an used car, it is a really good idea to drain
the oil and replace it.

More than one compressor I have dealt with has never had its oil
changed...or checked.

Wanna guess how much oil was in the compressor?

Not enough...and what was there was long overdue for a change.

TMT

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:56:37 -0700, Carla Fong
wrote:

We just found a used upright air compressor.

When we pick this up and move it, is there any reason we could not lay
it on its side in the bed of the pickup, rather than hauling it upright
with the compressor on the top?

These things look top-heavy and unstable, but every time I've seen one
being transported it was upright (usually on a skid or pallet).

It can be transported upright safely - IF you have a ladder rack or
other support system in the truck that you can lash the compressor to.
If you are going more than a few miles (slow and easy) it needs to be
secure, and that takes solid bracing.

(Been there, brought home my "5 HP" (3 HP) 80-gallon in a Utility
Bed with a ladder rack.)

Otherwise you hit the brakes hard and it can fall over forward and
wipe out the truck cab. Or take a corner too hard and it can fall
sideways and wipe out the bed.

Do NOT count on diagonal lashings down to the truck bed rails. You
would need the big 4" semi-truck style cargo straps to be strong
enough for that, which would gladly create forces that would rip out
any anchor fittings you normally use on a pickup bed.

And your anchoring options at the top of the compressor are very
limited. Wrap around the baseplate, or wrap through the baseplate.

Is this like a refrigeration compressor with oil sluicing around and we
would need to let it sit for a couple of days to allow the oil to pool
back into the sump - or is it likely that we'd damage it just by putting
it on its side regardless?

No, the oil is more of a "car engine" style problem - Drain it out
or you get a big sloppy mess when you tilt it on the side. Ever seen
a rolled over car? Oil comes out the dipstick hole, and the filler
hole, and the oil seal seeps, and the brake fluid from the reservoir,
and the power steering fluid... Bring a mop.

I would not try transporting it on it's side complete - way too easy
to break something irreplaceable on the pump, cast iron doesn't
bounce. Drain the pump oil, then break it down to major components.
Belt guard, motor, pump, pressure switch, motor starter. And build a
simple crate for the pump, cardboard isn't going to protect it.

Now all of a sudden your tank isn't nearly as top-heavy anymore!

And as a bonus you did an oil change on the pump, and get a chance
to change the belts out with new, and put on a fresh air filter, and
inspect everything as you put it all back together.

Pressurize the tank with an external compressor and do a bubble
test on the tank check valve (where the unloader hooks up) before
putting the output tube back on. So you don't have to do it twice.

-- Bruce --

On Apr 20, 2:02*pm, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:56:37 -0700, Carla Fong

wrote:
We just found a used upright air compressor.

When we pick this up and move it, is there any reason we could not lay
it on its side in the bed of the pickup, rather than hauling it upright
with the compressor on the top?

These things look top-heavy and unstable, but every time I've seen one
being transported it was upright (usually on a skid or pallet).

It can be transported upright safely - IF you have a ladder rack or
other support system in the truck that you can lash the compressor to.
If you are going more than a few miles (slow and easy) it needs to be
secure, and that takes solid bracing.

* (Been there, brought home my "5 HP" (3 HP) 80-gallon in a Utility
Bed with a ladder rack.)

* *Otherwise you hit the brakes hard and it can fall over forward and
wipe out the truck cab. *Or take a corner too hard and it can fall
sideways and wipe out the bed.

* Do NOT count on diagonal lashings down to the truck bed rails. *You
would need the big 4" semi-truck style cargo straps to be strong
enough for that, which would gladly create forces that would *rip out
any anchor fittings you normally use on a pickup bed.

* And your anchoring options at the top of the compressor are very
limited. *Wrap around the baseplate, or wrap through the baseplate.

Is this like a refrigeration compressor with oil sluicing around and we
would need to let it sit for a couple of days to allow the oil to pool
back into the sump - or is it likely that we'd damage it just by putting
it on its side regardless?

* No, the oil is more of a "car engine" style problem - Drain it out
or you get a big sloppy mess when you tilt it on the side. *Ever seen
a rolled over car? *Oil comes out the dipstick hole, and the filler
hole, and the oil seal seeps, and the brake fluid from the reservoir,
and the power steering fluid... *Bring a mop.

* I would not try transporting it on it's side complete - way too easy
to break something irreplaceable on the pump, cast iron doesn't
bounce. *Drain the pump oil, then break it down to major components.
Belt guard, motor, pump, pressure switch, motor starter. *And build a
simple crate for the pump, cardboard isn't going to protect it.

* Now all of a sudden your tank isn't nearly as top-heavy anymore!

* And as a bonus you did an oil change on the pump, and get a chance
to change the belts out with new, and put on a fresh air filter, and
inspect everything as you put it all back together.

* *Pressurize the tank with an external compressor and do a bubble
test on the tank check valve (where the unloader hooks up) before
putting the output tube back on. *So you don't have to do it twice.

* * *-- Bruce --

Good suggestions Bruce.

TMT

On Apr 20, 7:09*am, Ignoramus32638 ignoramus32...@NOSPAM.
32638.invalid wrote:
On 2009-04-20, Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Apr 20, 1:28?am, Carla Fong wrote:
...
This is an old (1965) Wayne compressor - I googled and could not find
parts for them, so it may be not as great a deal as I thought.

Carla

I'd ask local repair shops, they might have dusty old parts for it on
a back shelf. I found an old set of rings for my Kellogg-American
compressor that way.

The price to pay for such a compressor, if it truly needs work beyond
the trivial stuff like copper tubing or regulators, should be
approximately zero.

i

A vertical tank is worth something even if the compressor is shot. At
least around here. I can find decent sized horizontal units (5hp) any
day of the week for $100(most are old dairy system compressors). But
I have yet to find a vertical for less than $200, even with a blown
compressor.

I would like to find a good vertical tank, but at this point I have
given up the floor space for my horizontal so it doesn't really matter
anymore.

JW

jw wrote:

On Apr 20, 7:09 am, Ignoramus32638 ignoramus32...@NOSPAM.
32638.invalid wrote:
On 2009-04-20, Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Apr 20, 1:28?am, Carla Fong wrote:
...
This is an old (1965) Wayne compressor - I googled and could not find
parts for them, so it may be not as great a deal as I thought.
Carla
I'd ask local repair shops, they might have dusty old parts for it on
a back shelf. I found an old set of rings for my Kellogg-American
compressor that way.
The price to pay for such a compressor, if it truly needs work beyond
the trivial stuff like copper tubing or regulators, should be
approximately zero.

i

A vertical tank is worth something even if the compressor is shot. At
least around here. I can find decent sized horizontal units (5hp) any
day of the week for $100(most are old dairy system compressors). But
I have yet to find a vertical for less than $200, even with a blown
compressor.

I would like to find a good vertical tank, but at this point I have
given up the floor space for my horizontal so it doesn't really matter
anymore.

JW


We decided against purchasing this compressor - amounted to too much $$$
for a 40+ year old machine with limited parts availability.

Any thoughts on new compressors, like the ones from Harbor Freight or
Eaton Compressor?

Carla
Energizer Bunny arrested - charged with battery.

On 2009-04-22, Carla Fong wrote:
We decided against purchasing this compressor - amounted to too much $$$
for a 40+ year old machine with limited parts availability.

Any thoughts on new compressors, like the ones from Harbor Freight or
Eaton Compressor?

Carla
Energizer Bunny arrested - charged with battery.

Carla, you can buy a great used compressor for not too much. Scan your
local liquidation auctions. Basically it is not too hard to find a
used., high quality, 2 stage, single phase compressor for $350. The
more time you are willing to wait, the less you will pay.

I recently bought a working Quincy 390 compressor for $280 total.

A used three phase compressor would cost you about $20-30 per HP or
so. But then you have to worry about phase conversion and such, which
are all solvable issues.

I would not buy a Harbor Freight compressor, based on my own
experience.

i

"Carla Fong" wrote in message
...


jw wrote:

On Apr 20, 7:09 am, Ignoramus32638 ignoramus32...@NOSPAM.
32638.invalid wrote:
On 2009-04-20, Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Apr 20, 1:28?am, Carla Fong wrote:
...
This is an old (1965) Wayne compressor - I googled and could not find
parts for them, so it may be not as great a deal as I thought.
Carla
I'd ask local repair shops, they might have dusty old parts for it on
a back shelf. I found an old set of rings for my Kellogg-American
compressor that way.
The price to pay for such a compressor, if it truly needs work beyond
the trivial stuff like copper tubing or regulators, should be
approximately zero.

i

A vertical tank is worth something even if the compressor is shot. At
least around here. I can find decent sized horizontal units (5hp) any
day of the week for $100(most are old dairy system compressors). But
I have yet to find a vertical for less than $200, even with a blown
compressor.

I would like to find a good vertical tank, but at this point I have
given up the floor space for my horizontal so it doesn't really matter
anymore.

JW


We decided against purchasing this compressor - amounted to too much $$$
for a 40+ year old machine with limited parts availability.

Any thoughts on new compressors, like the ones from Harbor Freight or
Eaton Compressor?

Carla
Energizer Bunny arrested - charged with battery.

run, don't walk, from HF compressors. i recently bought a constant duty
ingersoll-rand 3hp 60gal from northerntool.com for about $500 with free
delivery.

Carla Fong wrote:

We decided against purchasing this compressor - amounted to too much $$$
for a 40+ year old machine with limited parts availability.

That is a relief, I read the word aftermath in the subject line and was afraid something
untoward had happened.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

jw wrote:

On Apr 20, 7:09 am, Ignoramus32638 ignoramus32...@NOSPAM.
32638.invalid wrote:
On 2009-04-20, Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Apr 20, 1:28?am, Carla Fong wrote:
...
This is an old (1965) Wayne compressor - I googled and could not find
parts for them, so it may be not as great a deal as I thought.
Carla
I'd ask local repair shops, they might have dusty old parts for it on
a back shelf. I found an old set of rings for my Kellogg-American
compressor that way.
The price to pay for such a compressor, if it truly needs work beyond
the trivial stuff like copper tubing or regulators, should be
approximately zero.

i

A vertical tank is worth something even if the compressor is shot. At
least around here. I can find decent sized horizontal units (5hp) any
day of the week for $100(most are old dairy system compressors). But
I have yet to find a vertical for less than $200, even with a blown
compressor.

I would like to find a good vertical tank, but at this point I have
given up the floor space for my horizontal so it doesn't really matter
anymore.

JW


We decided against purchasing this compressor - amounted to too much $$$ for
a 40+ year old machine with limited parts availability.

Any thoughts on new compressors, like the ones from Harbor Freight or Eaton
Compressor?

Carla
Energizer Bunny arrested - charged with battery.

Unless I missed it, the first question that the group usually asks
is what are your needs in an air compressor. Just filling tires,
sandblasting, or air tools? Future needs?

I have one large compressor that 90% of the time is an overkill.
But it only has to run once in a while, so I consider it quiet.

I also have a very small portable one that doesn't get used much.
It's used on rare occasions need to fill a tire or blow off a part.
Storage size and portability for that one was more important.

Wayne D.

Carla, this is a good example:

http://www.bidspotter.com/forms/stat...2&gallery=7129

This compressor sold for $125. This looks like a 5 HP 3 phase Champion
or DeVilbiss compressor with air filter and regulator attached. The ad
says "Cochrane compressor", but Cochrane is a compressor dealer in
Chicagoland. (my favorite, too).

Note a big oil residue on the tank. Either the pump leaks, or the oil was
drained carelessly at some point. The right side of the oil outline
suggests the latter.

This is a oil lubricated model,two stage pump.

I personally think that this compressor should have sold for $50.

i

Wayne wrote:


jw wrote:

On Apr 20, 7:09 am, Ignoramus32638 ignoramus32...@NOSPAM.
32638.invalid wrote:
On 2009-04-20, Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Apr 20, 1:28?am, Carla Fong wrote:
...
This is an old (1965) Wayne compressor - I googled and could not find
parts for them, so it may be not as great a deal as I thought.
Carla
I'd ask local repair shops, they might have dusty old parts for it on
a back shelf. I found an old set of rings for my Kellogg-American
compressor that way.
The price to pay for such a compressor, if it truly needs work beyond
the trivial stuff like copper tubing or regulators, should be
approximately zero.

i

A vertical tank is worth something even if the compressor is shot. At
least around here. I can find decent sized horizontal units (5hp) any
day of the week for $100(most are old dairy system compressors). But
I have yet to find a vertical for less than $200, even with a blown
compressor.

I would like to find a good vertical tank, but at this point I have
given up the floor space for my horizontal so it doesn't really matter
anymore.

JW


We decided against purchasing this compressor - amounted to too much
$$$ for a 40+ year old machine with limited parts availability.

Any thoughts on new compressors, like the ones from Harbor Freight or
Eaton Compressor?

Carla
Energizer Bunny arrested - charged with battery.

Unless I missed it, the first question that the group usually asks
is what are your needs in an air compressor. Just filling tires,
sandblasting, or air tools? Future needs?

I have one large compressor that 90% of the time is an overkill.
But it only has to run once in a while, so I consider it quiet.

I also have a very small portable one that doesn't get used much.
It's used on rare occasions need to fill a tire or blow off a part.
Storage size and portability for that one was more important.

Wayne D.


As to our actual needs:

Most of the time our existing 35+ year old Sears (Speedaire) 2HP with a
20-gallon tank is adequate. Filling tires, supplying the FogBuster
mister on the milling machine and blowing dust out of stuff...

A couple of times a year we need more air for air tools, particularly
the die grinder, which goes through a remarkable amount of air for as
teensy as it is. A needle scaler also is an air hog.

We also do a small amount of sandblasting that runs us out of air very
quickly.

Also, this would be a good time/excuse to move the compressor out of the
shop and under the lean-to and give us some additional under-counter
storage space. The Speedaire with its 3450 RPM motor is pretty noisy,
too ... The move would be a good reason to finish the air piping in the
shop so we're not trailing hoses everywhere.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Carla

Carla Fong wrote:



We decided against purchasing this compressor - amounted to too much $$$
for a 40+ year old machine with limited parts availability.

Any thoughts on new compressors, like the ones from Harbor Freight or
Eaton Compressor?

Get a Quincy. Many of the Chinese cheapos from
Harbor Freight, etc. are really poorly made. I'm
using a 1968-vintage Quincy that is barely broken
in, yet.
It is also rather quiet.

Jon

Would anyone be interested in buying a Quincy with a 7.5 HP single
phase motor? Single stage, 100 PSI, 31 CFM? Working great? Price of
$800?

i

On 2009-04-23, Jon Elson wrote:
Carla Fong wrote:



We decided against purchasing this compressor - amounted to too much $$$
for a 40+ year old machine with limited parts availability.

Any thoughts on new compressors, like the ones from Harbor Freight or
Eaton Compressor?

Get a Quincy. Many of the Chinese cheapos from
Harbor Freight, etc. are really poorly made. I'm
using a 1968-vintage Quincy that is barely broken
in, yet.
It is also rather quiet.

Jon

"Jon Elson" wrote in message
...
Carla Fong wrote:



We decided against purchasing this compressor - amounted to too much $$$
for a 40+ year old machine with limited parts availability.

Any thoughts on new compressors, like the ones from Harbor Freight or
Eaton Compressor?

Get a Quincy. Many of the Chinese cheapos from Harbor Freight, etc. are
really poorly made. I'm using a 1968-vintage Quincy that is barely broken
in, yet.
It is also rather quiet.

Jon

hf compressors can be from anywhere. a small one i bought a number of years
ago was made in italy, and getting a part for it was 4 months. since hf
ordered the wrong part, that compressor is long gone to it's next owner. i
craigslisted it for free just to make room.

"Carla Fong" wrote in message
...
We just found a used upright air compressor.

When we pick this up and move it, is there any reason we could not lay it
on its side in the bed of the pickup, rather than hauling it upright with
the compressor on the top?

These things look top-heavy and unstable, but every time I've seen one
being transported it was upright (usually on a skid or pallet).

Is this like a refrigeration compressor with oil sluicing around and we
would need to let it sit for a couple of days to allow the oil to pool
back into the sump - or is it likely that we'd damage it just by putting
it on its side regardless?


Another tip that might help with moving tall items like this, is turning and
accelerating is not much of a problem, the problem is sudden stops. I have
tied items like this up to 2000 pounds in the bed of my short wide Chevy PU.
Even light weight straps to the top front corners of the bed, will easily
oppose normal starts and turns. Then I remove the tail gate and run a heavy
duty strap from the top of the load, directly to the trailer hitch, to deal
with sudden stops.

Wayne wrote:


jw wrote:

On Apr 20, 7:09 am, Ignoramus32638 ignoramus32...@NOSPAM.
32638.invalid wrote:
On 2009-04-20, Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Apr 20, 1:28?am, Carla Fong wrote:
...
This is an old (1965) Wayne compressor - I googled and could not find
parts for them, so it may be not as great a deal as I thought.
Carla
I'd ask local repair shops, they might have dusty old parts for it on
a back shelf. I found an old set of rings for my Kellogg-American
compressor that way.
The price to pay for such a compressor, if it truly needs work beyond
the trivial stuff like copper tubing or regulators, should be
approximately zero.

i

A vertical tank is worth something even if the compressor is shot. At
least around here. I can find decent sized horizontal units (5hp) any
day of the week for $100(most are old dairy system compressors). But
I have yet to find a vertical for less than $200, even with a blown
compressor.

I would like to find a good vertical tank, but at this point I have
given up the floor space for my horizontal so it doesn't really matter
anymore.

JW


We decided against purchasing this compressor - amounted to too much $$$
for a 40+ year old machine with limited parts availability.

Any thoughts on new compressors, like the ones from Harbor Freight or
Eaton Compressor?

Carla
Energizer Bunny arrested - charged with battery.

Unless I missed it, the first question that the group usually asks
is what are your needs in an air compressor. Just filling tires,
sandblasting, or air tools? Future needs?

I have one large compressor that 90% of the time is an overkill.
But it only has to run once in a while, so I consider it quiet.

I also have a very small portable one that doesn't get used much.
It's used on rare occasions need to fill a tire or blow off a part.
Storage size and portability for that one was more important.

Wayne D.


As to our actual needs:

Most of the time our existing 35+ year old Sears (Speedaire) 2HP with a
20-gallon tank is adequate. Filling tires, supplying the FogBuster mister on
the milling machine and blowing dust out of stuff...

A couple of times a year we need more air for air tools, particularly the die
grinder, which goes through a remarkable amount of air for as teensy as it
is. A needle scaler also is an air hog.

We also do a small amount of sandblasting that runs us out of air very
quickly.

Also, this would be a good time/excuse to move the compressor out of the shop
and under the lean-to and give us some additional under-counter storage
space. The Speedaire with its 3450 RPM motor is pretty noisy, too ... The
move would be a good reason to finish the air piping in the shop so we're not
trailing hoses everywhere.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Carla
Hey, I had a similiar story. Some day I might run the piping also...

If you are residential with single phase service, than a 5hp
single phase Quincy (or equivalant) would be your best choice.

I think your old Sears would run circles around any of the new "5hp"
models sold in most places.

Try to go with a more industrial model. All the comments of those on
the group who did so seem very happy with theirs, me included.

Wayne D

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:32:23 -0500, Wayne
wrote:


Wayne wrote:


jw wrote:

On Apr 20, 7:09 am, Ignoramus32638 ignoramus32...@NOSPAM.
32638.invalid wrote:
On 2009-04-20, Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Apr 20, 1:28?am, Carla Fong wrote:
...
This is an old (1965) Wayne compressor - I googled and could not find
parts for them, so it may be not as great a deal as I thought.
Carla
I'd ask local repair shops, they might have dusty old parts for it on
a back shelf. I found an old set of rings for my Kellogg-American
compressor that way.
The price to pay for such a compressor, if it truly needs work beyond
the trivial stuff like copper tubing or regulators, should be
approximately zero.

i

A vertical tank is worth something even if the compressor is shot. At
least around here. I can find decent sized horizontal units (5hp) any
day of the week for $100(most are old dairy system compressors). But
I have yet to find a vertical for less than $200, even with a blown
compressor.

I would like to find a good vertical tank, but at this point I have
given up the floor space for my horizontal so it doesn't really matter
anymore.

JW


We decided against purchasing this compressor - amounted to too much $$$
for a 40+ year old machine with limited parts availability.

Any thoughts on new compressors, like the ones from Harbor Freight or
Eaton Compressor?

Carla
Energizer Bunny arrested - charged with battery.

Unless I missed it, the first question that the group usually asks
is what are your needs in an air compressor. Just filling tires,
sandblasting, or air tools? Future needs?

I have one large compressor that 90% of the time is an overkill.
But it only has to run once in a while, so I consider it quiet.

I also have a very small portable one that doesn't get used much.
It's used on rare occasions need to fill a tire or blow off a part.
Storage size and portability for that one was more important.

Wayne D.


As to our actual needs:

Most of the time our existing 35+ year old Sears (Speedaire) 2HP with a
20-gallon tank is adequate. Filling tires, supplying the FogBuster mister on
the milling machine and blowing dust out of stuff...

A couple of times a year we need more air for air tools, particularly the die
grinder, which goes through a remarkable amount of air for as teensy as it
is. A needle scaler also is an air hog.

We also do a small amount of sandblasting that runs us out of air very
quickly.

Also, this would be a good time/excuse to move the compressor out of the shop
and under the lean-to and give us some additional under-counter storage
space. The Speedaire with its 3450 RPM motor is pretty noisy, too ... The
move would be a good reason to finish the air piping in the shop so we're not
trailing hoses everywhere.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Carla
Hey, I had a similiar story. Some day I might run the piping also...

If you are residential with single phase service, than a 5hp
single phase Quincy (or equivalant) would be your best choice.

I think your old Sears would run circles around any of the new "5hp"
models sold in most places.

Try to go with a more industrial model. All the comments of those on
the group who did so seem very happy with theirs, me included.

Wayne D

Purchase as large a tank as you can hide away somewhere, and plumb it
parallel with the existing tank.

You can often find 200 gallon tanks for $50.

Gunner

"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with
minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing
clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do---
his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him.
The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies.
He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?"

NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates