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Actual Metalworking content: 'New' 1916 110HP Rotary
Take a look at
http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/proje...-engine-detail if you are tired of reading of politics ** mike ** |
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Actual Metalworking content: 'New' 1916 110HP Rotary
mike wrote:
Take a look at http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/proje...-engine-detail Wow. I wonder why the strange swash plate design instead of an articulated crank? |
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Actual Metalworking content: 'New' 1916 110HP Rotary
On Nov 5, 7:54*pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
Wow. *I wonder why the strange swash plate design instead of an articulated crank? I didn't expect that either, thinking it be closer to what the P&W Master link: but did some googling, that 110HP used an odd bearing setup. from http://www.aviation-history.com/engines/rotary.htm __ Although remarkable, the Le Rhône used a complicated slipper bearing system. Its master rod had three concentric grooves to take slipper bearings from all the other cylinders. The master rod was a split-type to allow assembly of the connecting rods. The remaining rods carried bronze shoes, shaped to fit in the grooves, at their inner ends. Counting the master rod as no. 1, the shoes of no's. 2, 5, and 8 rode in the outer groove, those of 3, 6, and 9 in the middle groove, and 4 and 7 in the innermost one. __ ** mike ** |
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Actual Metalworking content: 'New' 1916 110HP Rotary
On Nov 5, 7:54*pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
Wow. *I wonder why the strange swash plate design instead of an articulated crank? last part of my reply got cut off. It did use a total loss system of castor oil, drawn in with the fuel/air mix in the intake manifold. Might have needed that extra bearing surface, since it wasn't a real pressurized system ** mike ** |
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Actual Metalworking content: 'New' 1916 110HP Rotary
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:11:31 -0800 (PST), mike
wrote: On Nov 5, 7:54*pm, Jim Stewart wrote: Wow. *I wonder why the strange swash plate design instead of an articulated crank? last part of my reply got cut off. It did use a total loss system of castor oil, drawn in with the fuel/air mix in the intake manifold. Might have needed that extra bearing surface, since it wasn't a real pressurized system ** mike ** Whether it was a myth or not, but it was said that all the pilots of rotary engine powered plains in WW I suffered from diarrhoea from the exhaust fumes and carried a bottle of brandy while flying for therapeutic purposes. Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) |
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Actual Metalworking content: 'New' 1916 110HP Rotary
In article
, mike wrote: Take a look at http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/proje...-engine-detail if you are tired of reading of politics ** mike ** IIRC, pilots found making a turn against the torque of all that rotating mass somewhat interesting. |
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Actual Metalworking content: 'New' 1916 110HP Rotary
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:11:31 -0800 (PST), the infamous mike
scrawled the following: On Nov 5, 7:54*pm, Jim Stewart wrote: Wow. *I wonder why the strange swash plate design instead of an articulated crank? last part of my reply got cut off. It did use a total loss system of castor oil, drawn in with the fuel/air mix in the intake manifold. Might have needed that extra bearing surface, since it wasn't a real pressurized system Motocross bikes used a castor oil/gas mix. It reminds me of the old days at the Carlsbad Raceway in LoCal, smelling freshly burned castor oil from the bikes. At night, it was the freshly burned methanol from the dragsters and funny cars. Fuelies Forever! Ah, da smells of me yout! -- Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile I caught hell for. -- Earl Warren |
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Actual Metalworking content: 'New' 1916 110HP Rotary
On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:53:06 -0400, John Husvar
wrote: In article , mike wrote: Take a look at http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/proje...-engine-detail if you are tired of reading of politics ** mike ** IIRC, pilots found making a turn against the torque of all that rotating mass somewhat interesting. From all I have read the biggest problem was making a "go round" when close to the ground - a considerable amount of torque reaction. By the way, the US Navy built a few corsairs with an R-4360, 3500 HP engine in them and discovered the same thing. Very slow throttle advancement on the take off roll. Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) |
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Actual Metalworking content: 'New' 1916 110HP Rotary
Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
By the way, the US Navy built a few corsairs with an R-4360, 3500 HP engine in them and discovered the same thing. Very slow throttle advancement on the take off roll. Found a video of a fellow down under that put a Merlin V-12 in a '55 Chevy. Well, put a '55 Chevy body on a massive tube chassis carrying the engine... Some fellow from the Speed network got to drive it. Clearing respecting the massive torque and power, he never really put his foot into it, but still comments he got the impression the engine wanted to just roll the car over.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIj2GVfua84 Jon |
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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
Whether it was a myth or not, but it was said that all the pilots of rotary engine powered plains in WW I suffered from diarrhoea from the exhaust fumes and carried a bottle of brandy while flying for therapeutic purposes. I've read a few books on WWI aircraft, the castor and the chits was mentioned, the brandy I thought was for a good reception if one lived being shot down. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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