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The doomsday machine is finished and will be tested tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsZQOlJU_Hg

Impressive metalworking to say the least.


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On Sep 9, 5:16*pm, "azotic" wrote:
The doomsday machine is finished and will be tested tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsZQOlJU_Hg

Impressive metalworking to say the least.

Best Regards
Tom.


Aren't we supposed to be sucked into mini black holes by now? Hasn't
it be in operation for several hours?
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On Sep 9, 5:16 pm, "azotic" wrote:
The doomsday machine is finished and will be tested tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsZQOlJU_Hg

Impressive metalworking to say the least.

Best Regards
Tom.


Aren't we supposed to be sucked into mini black holes by now? Hasn't
it be in operation for several hours?
Karl



We already have Cliff, Ed and Hawkie. Why do we need more black
holes, is the world running out of Democrats?


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On Sep 9, 5:16 pm, "azotic" wrote:
The doomsday machine is finished and will be tested tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsZQOlJU_Hg

Impressive metalworking to say the least.

Best Regards
Tom.


Aren't we supposed to be sucked into mini black holes by now? Hasn't
it be in operation for several hours?
Karl



We already have Cliff, Ed and Hawkie. Why do we need more black
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There are two kinds of people on this earth:
The crazy, and the insane.
The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.


Are you crazy, Michael?


pffffft cough. Anyone have a good method for getting Diet Coke out
of a keyboard?

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On Sep 9, 5:16 pm, "azotic" wrote:
The doomsday machine is finished and will be tested tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsZQOlJU_Hg

Impressive metalworking to say the least.

Best Regards
Tom.

Aren't we supposed to be sucked into mini black holes by now? Hasn't
it be in operation for several hours?
Karl



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On Sep 9, 5:16=A0pm, "azotic" wrote:
The doomsday machine is finished and will be tested tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKsZQOlJU_Hg

Impressive metalworking to say the least.

Best Regards
Tom.


Aren't we supposed to be sucked into mini black holes by now? Hasn't
it be in operation for several hours?
Karl

From what I've read in various science publications, e.g. Science
News, cosmic rays rourinely strike our atmosphere with more energy
than the LHC will be able to produce. So the thinking is that any risk
of the LHC creating little black holes that swallow the earth is much
less than the risk of cosmic rays doing the same. So much less that if
it was going to happen it already would have. And speaking of little
black holes, current thought is that below a certain radius black
holes radiate faster than they consume and so disappear quickly. ISTR
that this radiation is called "Hawking Radiation" in honor of Stephen
Hawking.
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Ed Huntress wrote:
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There are two kinds of people on this earth:
The crazy, and the insane.
The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.


Are you crazy, Michael?


pffffft cough. Anyone have a good method for getting Diet Coke out
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Pete

Isopropyl alcohol and compressed air works quite well on beer.
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The last I heard, (waiting with baited breath), is a proton was blasted
clockwise at high speed and the detectors detected and processed the data.
The next step is to blast on counter-clockwise, (anti-clockwise for some of us),
and then do both going against each other. Verification trials.

Then real work and fun begin. H0! The Texas Ring would have been in use by now
but there were to many social programs and highways to somewhere or no where to do.

I hope it could be brought back to life and continue on. So much of the cost
was already borne. So much to learn and to teach the next generations.

Most people don't realize that these big babies do after hours work making
medicine for cancer patients.

Right now in a un-suspecting side yard to a plant in Santa Clara is an
accelerator that is doing that. The target is several feet from a highway
and a big Fry's.

But that is only helping local and for that company.

Martin

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azotic wrote:
The doomsday machine is finished and will be tested tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsZQOlJU_Hg

Impressive metalworking to say the least.


Best Regards
Tom.





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The event in Russia during the early 20th century was thought to
be a black hole or high energy particle.

We have particles that whiz through the earth and keep on going all of
the time. We all have been hit. Some many times more by other particles -
the Northern lights are just that.

Martin

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On Sep 9, 5:16=A0pm, "azotic" wrote:
The doomsday machine is finished and will be tested tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKsZQOlJU_Hg

Impressive metalworking to say the least.

Best Regards
Tom.

Aren't we supposed to be sucked into mini black holes by now? Hasn't
it be in operation for several hours?
Karl

From what I've read in various science publications, e.g. Science
News, cosmic rays rourinely strike our atmosphere with more energy
than the LHC will be able to produce. So the thinking is that any risk
of the LHC creating little black holes that swallow the earth is much
less than the risk of cosmic rays doing the same. So much less that if
it was going to happen it already would have. And speaking of little
black holes, current thought is that below a certain radius black
holes radiate faster than they consume and so disappear quickly. ISTR
that this radiation is called "Hawking Radiation" in honor of Stephen
Hawking.
ERS



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On Sep 10, 4:32*pm, "Martin H. Eastburn"
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The last I heard, (waiting with baited breath), is a proton was blasted
clockwise at high speed and the detectors detected and processed the data..
The next step is to blast on counter-clockwise, (anti-clockwise for some of us),
and then do both going against each other. * Verification trials.

Then real work and fun begin. H0! *The Texas Ring would have been in use by now
but there were to many social programs and highways to somewhere or no where to do.

I hope it could be brought back to life and continue on. *So much of the cost
was already borne. *So much to learn and to teach the next generations.

Most people don't realize that these big babies do after hours work making
medicine for cancer patients.

Right now in a un-suspecting side yard to a plant in Santa Clara is an
accelerator that is doing that. *The target is several feet from a highway
and a big Fry's.

But that is only helping local and for that company.

Martin

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azotic wrote:
The doomsday machine is finished and will be tested tomorrow.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsZQOlJU_Hg


Impressive metalworking to say the least.


Best Regards
Tom.


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My uncle was working with some accelerator in the 60's. They were
zapping all sorts of things.
Somewhere I think I still have a plexiglas sample they zapped.

Karl
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On Sep 10, 10:36*pm, "Martin H. Eastburn"
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The event in Russia during the early 20th century was thought to
be a black hole or high energy particle.


There is a small lake near the center of the blast pattern that
apparently wasn't on a survey taken a few decades earlier. Sediment
cores suggest that it might be the crater.
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On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 20:16:44 -0700, "azotic"
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The doomsday machine is finished and will be tested tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsZQOlJU_Hg

Impressive metalworking to say the least.


Best Regards
Tom.


============
As an update for the people that were waiting for the "black hole
solution" to the current economic problems
-------
From Times Online
September 9, 2008
Apocalypse now? 30 days when the world didn't end
Will the LHC cause the world to end? Here are some other
occasions when reports of the Earth's demise have proven to be
premature..

Michael Moran

The beginning of the first serious experiments using CERN’s Large
Hadron Collider this week has given rise to a welter of fanciful
scare stories about the obliteration of the Earth by a pocket
black hole or a cascade reaction of exotic particles. Similar
predictions have been made around the launch of several other
particle physics experiments and even the first atomic weapons
tests.

Predictions of the world’s end are nothing new though. We’ve
picked out 30 of the most memorable apocalypses that never, for
one reason or another, quite happened.
snip
1: 2,800BC: The oldest surviving prediction of the world’s
imminent demise was found inscribed upon an Assyrian clay tablet
which stated: "Our earth is degenerate in these latter days.
There are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end.
Bribery and corruption are common."
snip
30: Mar 21, 2008. A minor Christian sect The Lords' Witnesses
announced this date for the end of days on their website, which
is still online.
snip
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for entire article click on
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle4717864.ece


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
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He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).
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On Sep 11, 3:33*am, " wrote:

My uncle was working with some accelerator in the 60's. They were
zapping all sorts of things.
Somewhere I think I still have a plexiglas sample they zapped.

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Where I work (okay, it's not really work when I have so much fun)
there's a radiation effects lab that I support on occasion. Linear
accelerators, dynamatrons, flash x-rays, and other nifty stuff. Most
of the work is testing equipment and components that will find their
way into the nasty environment of space (as well as aircraft, high
altitude electric trains, etc.) At the end of the year if there's
time and the flash x-ray is set up right, the operator makes some of
those panels. They're called Lichtenberg patterns. We give them away
to retirees and such. Very cool. Some of the other projects we work
on are even cooler, but that's another topic.
We've been following CERN with some interest, although some of
the terminology escapes us lowly lab techs. The scale, cost, and
energies involved are purely mind boggling, and we work with some
pretty high numbers already.
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On Sep 12, 2:15*pm, Carl M wrote:
On Sep 11, 3:33*am, " wrote:

My uncle was working with some accelerator in the 60's. They were
zapping all sorts of things.
Somewhere I think I still have a plexiglas sample they zapped.


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* * *Where I work (okay, it's not really work when I have so much fun)
there's a radiation effects lab that I support on occasion. *Linear
accelerators, dynamatrons, flash x-rays, and other nifty stuff. *Most
of the work is testing equipment and components that will find their
way into the nasty environment of space (as well as aircraft, high
altitude electric trains, etc.) *At the end of the year if there's
time and the flash x-ray is set up right, the operator makes some of
those panels. *They're called Lichtenberg patterns. *We give them away
to retirees and such. *Very cool. *Some of the other projects we work
on are even cooler, but that's another topic.
* * *We've been following CERN with some interest, although some of
the terminology escapes us lowly lab techs. *The scale, cost, and
energies involved are purely mind boggling, and we work with some
pretty high numbers already.


There's a website that sells the Lichtenberg patterns in plexi. I
remember my uncle enjoyed that job.


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On Sep 11, 3:33*am, " wrote:

My uncle was working with some accelerator in the 60's. They were
zapping all sorts of things.
Somewhere I think I still have a plexiglas sample they zapped.

Karl- Hide quoted text -


Where I work (okay, it's not really work when I have so much fun)
there's a radiation effects lab that I support on occasion. Linear
accelerators, dynamatrons, flash x-rays, and other nifty stuff. Most
of the work is testing equipment and components that will find their
way into the nasty environment of space (as well as aircraft, high
altitude electric trains, etc.) At the end of the year if there's
time and the flash x-ray is set up right, the operator makes some of
those panels. They're called Lichtenberg patterns. We give them away
to retirees and such. Very cool. Some of the other projects we work
on are even cooler, but that's another topic.
We've been following CERN with some interest, although some of
the terminology escapes us lowly lab techs. The scale, cost, and
energies involved are purely mind boggling, and we work with some
pretty high numbers already.



It was pretty fascinating to note that Cern went on line..and there
were a bunch of large earthquakes not long afterwards around the
world. And some volcanos...shrug

even more interesting to note on a globe their positions from cern

http://www.bbsradio.com/cgi-bin/webb....pl/read/21219

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