If anyone can explain why the weather reporters are wrong at least 75% of
the time and get everyone all spun up into calling into work as "it looks
and I hear it's going to rain. lets not work or go to the racetrack" How in
the hell can they make mega-bucks and be wrong constantly then act all
surprised they blew it for a holiday weekend for instance or in my case a
delivery of a lathe and a trip to the dunes to race dirt bikes. They say the
sky is falling and four horsemen are going to be going across the skies in
all different ends yet the day is beautiful, not a cloud in the sky after
they predict the end of times. I was not strong in meteorology in college
but I'm so friggin tired of lost hours and chances from people bailing out
due to inaccurate predictions. Now when I was a kid I went anyway. Is this
society being a bunch of pussies or just sheepole who believe what they
hear? Does this **** any of you off. I know as contractors being outside a
lot of you depend on this info. I just wanted to see if I was alone or
needed medication for being an asshole about this.

All the best fellas,

Rob

Fraser Competition Engines
Chicago, IL.

Rob Fraser wrote:
If anyone can explain why the weather reporters are wrong at least 75% of
the time and get everyone all spun up into calling into work as "it looks
and I hear it's going to rain. lets not work or go to the racetrack" How in
the hell can they make mega-bucks and be wrong constantly then act all
surprised they blew it for a holiday weekend for instance or in my case a
delivery of a lathe and a trip to the dunes to race dirt bikes. They say the
sky is falling and four horsemen are going to be going across the skies in
all different ends yet the day is beautiful, not a cloud in the sky after
they predict the end of times. I was not strong in meteorology in college
but I'm so friggin tired of lost hours and chances from people bailing out
due to inaccurate predictions. Now when I was a kid I went anyway. Is this
society being a bunch of pussies or just sheepole who believe what they
hear? Does this **** any of you off. I know as contractors being outside a
lot of you depend on this info. I just wanted to see if I was alone or
needed medication for being an asshole about this.

I'm with you, if it's worth doing, weather be damned.
I've raced in pouring rain, and I've worked corners in driving sleet.

Moving a machine in the rain might not be much fun though.

I think people used to look at weather forecasts as a way to prepare,
and now have moved on to using them as an excuse to avoid or cancel
something. On the other hand, some regions are very hard to make good
forecasts in, due to geographic features. Living next to one of the
Great Lakes means that weather can tip one way or another very fast. I
never trust a forecast any more than a day ahead, and even then.......

Pete

--
Pete Snell
Department of Physics
Royal Military College
Kingston, Ontario,
Canada
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance
to get its pants on.

Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

On May 30, 10:45 am, "Rob Fraser" FraserRacing"AT"RobFraser.Net
wrote:
If anyone can explain why the weather reporters are wrong at least 75% of
the time and get everyone all spun up into calling into work as "it looks
and I hear it's going to rain. lets not work or go to the racetrack" How in
the hell can they make mega-bucks and be wrong constantly then act all
surprised they blew it for a holiday weekend for instance or in my case a
delivery of a lathe and a trip to the dunes to race dirt bikes. They say the
sky is falling and four horsemen are going to be going across the skies in
all different ends yet the day is beautiful, not a cloud in the sky after
they predict the end of times. I was not strong in meteorology in college
but I'm so friggin tired of lost hours and chances from people bailing out
due to inaccurate predictions. Now when I was a kid I went anyway. Is this
society being a bunch of pussies or just sheepole who believe what they
hear? Does this **** any of you off. I know as contractors being outside a
lot of you depend on this info. I just wanted to see if I was alone or
needed medication for being an asshole about this.

All the best fellas,

Rob

Fraser Competition Engines
Chicago, IL.



The key is to figure out how they are consistently wrong, as in in
which way.

Around here the weather forecast is pretty accurate, if I assume
whatever they call for will be 1/2 to 1 day late.

BTW, I'd think you'd get awesome traction in the dunes when its wet,
no?

Dave

Rob Fraser wrote:
If anyone can explain why the weather reporters are wrong at least 75% of
the time and get everyone all spun up into calling into work as "it looks
and I hear it's going to rain. lets not work or go to the racetrack" How in
the hell can they make mega-bucks and be wrong constantly then act all
surprised they blew it for a holiday weekend for instance or in my case a
delivery of a lathe and a trip to the dunes to race dirt bikes. They say the
sky is falling and four horsemen are going to be going across the skies in
all different ends yet the day is beautiful, not a cloud in the sky after
they predict the end of times. I was not strong in meteorology in college
but I'm so friggin tired of lost hours and chances from people bailing out
due to inaccurate predictions. Now when I was a kid I went anyway. Is this
society being a bunch of pussies or just sheepole who believe what they
hear? Does this **** any of you off. I know as contractors being outside a
lot of you depend on this info. I just wanted to see if I was alone or
needed medication for being an asshole about this.

All the best fellas,

Rob

Fraser Competition Engines
Chicago, IL.


You can't do anything about _other_ people canceling, but you can sure
do something about _you_ canceling.

I don't pay much attention to the weather reports, because I live within
the Columbia Gorge Unpredictability Zone. If I can see Mt. Hood, it's
going to rain. If I can't see Mt. Hood, it's raining.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" gives you just what it says.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

"Tim Wescott" wrote in message
...
Rob Fraser wrote:
If anyone can explain why the weather reporters are wrong at least 75% of
the time and get everyone all spun up into calling into work as "it looks
and I hear it's going to rain. lets not work or go to the racetrack" How
in the hell can they make mega-bucks and be wrong constantly then act all
surprised they blew it for a holiday weekend for instance or in my case a
delivery of a lathe and a trip to the dunes to race dirt bikes. They say
the sky is falling and four horsemen are going to be going across the
skies in all different ends yet the day is beautiful, not a cloud in the
sky after they predict the end of times. I was not strong in meteorology
in college but I'm so friggin tired of lost hours and chances from people
bailing out due to inaccurate predictions. Now when I was a kid I went
anyway. Is this society being a bunch of pussies or just sheepole who
believe what they hear? Does this **** any of you off. I know as
contractors being outside a lot of you depend on this info. I just wanted
to see if I was alone or needed medication for being an asshole about
this.

All the best fellas,

Rob

Fraser Competition Engines
Chicago, IL.
You can't do anything about _other_ people canceling, but you can sure do
something about _you_ canceling.

I don't pay much attention to the weather reports, because I live within
the Columbia Gorge Unpredictability Zone. If I can see Mt. Hood, it's
going to rain. If I can't see Mt. Hood, it's raining.

Tim: My guess is that you have a problem in believing in the existence of
any water shortages?

Stu

On May 30, 1:05*pm, wrote:
Around here the weather forecast is pretty accurate, if I assume
whatever they call for will be 1/2 to 1 day late.
Dave

They do pretty well in New England now. The track may be off a bit
north or south but the timing of a front is often good to a few hours
from several days ahead. The radar shows how variable rain or snowfall
can be from town to town.

"Rob Fraser" FraserRacing"AT"RobFraser.Net wrote in message
...
If anyone can explain why the weather reporters are wrong at least 75% of
the time and get everyone all spun up into calling into work as "it looks
and I hear it's going to rain. lets not work or go to the racetrack" How
in the hell can they make mega-bucks and be wrong constantly then act all
surprised they blew it for a holiday weekend for instance or in my case a
delivery of a lathe and a trip to the dunes to race dirt bikes. They say
the sky is falling and four horsemen are going to be going across the
skies in all different ends yet the day is beautiful, not a cloud in the
sky after they predict the end of times. I was not strong in meteorology
in college but I'm so friggin tired of lost hours and chances from people
bailing out due to inaccurate predictions. Now when I was a kid I went
anyway. Is this society being a bunch of pussies or just sheepole who
believe what they hear? Does this **** any of you off. I know as
contractors being outside a lot of you depend on this info. I just wanted
to see if I was alone or needed medication for being an asshole about
this.

All the best fellas,

Rob

Fraser Competition Engines
Chicago, IL.


I still remember the daily weather forecast in the Florida Keys that almost
NEVER changed: Partly cloudy skies, seas 1-2 feet with a mild chop, chance
of precipitation, 20%"
--
Peter DiVergilio
Most of the money I've wasted was mostly spent trying to impress people who
were never going to like me anyway!

Stuart & Kathryn Fields wrote:
"Tim Wescott" wrote in message
...
Rob Fraser wrote:
If anyone can explain why the weather reporters are wrong at least 75% of
the time and get everyone all spun up into calling into work as "it looks
and I hear it's going to rain. lets not work or go to the racetrack" How
in the hell can they make mega-bucks and be wrong constantly then act all
surprised they blew it for a holiday weekend for instance or in my case a
delivery of a lathe and a trip to the dunes to race dirt bikes. They say
the sky is falling and four horsemen are going to be going across the
skies in all different ends yet the day is beautiful, not a cloud in the
sky after they predict the end of times. I was not strong in meteorology
in college but I'm so friggin tired of lost hours and chances from people
bailing out due to inaccurate predictions. Now when I was a kid I went
anyway. Is this society being a bunch of pussies or just sheepole who
believe what they hear? Does this **** any of you off. I know as
contractors being outside a lot of you depend on this info. I just wanted
to see if I was alone or needed medication for being an asshole about
this.

All the best fellas,

Rob

Fraser Competition Engines
Chicago, IL.
You can't do anything about _other_ people canceling, but you can sure do
something about _you_ canceling.

I don't pay much attention to the weather reports, because I live within
the Columbia Gorge Unpredictability Zone. If I can see Mt. Hood, it's
going to rain. If I can't see Mt. Hood, it's raining.

Tim: My guess is that you have a problem in believing in the existence of
any water shortages?

Stu


Given that our little 7-household water system runs out every summer,
and we have to change to a well with so much iron in it I'm not sure if
I should bathe in it or smelt it down?

No.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" gives you just what it says.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

I think the forecasting is OK, it's the spin it's given. So that "heavy
rain" becomes "severe weather warning, don't go out unless it's absolutely
essential and lay in stocks of food and torch batteries".

Here in England if you don't like the weather, you normally only have to
wait half an hour and it changes.

Tim Wescott wrote:

I don't pay much attention to the weather reports, because I live
within the Columbia Gorge Unpredictability Zone. If I can see Mt.
Hood, it's going to rain. If I can't see Mt. Hood, it's raining.

Tim: My guess is that you have a problem in believing in the
existence of any water shortages?

Stu

Given that our little 7-household water system runs out every summer,
and we have to change to a well with so much iron in it I'm not sure if
I should bathe in it or smelt it down?

No.

Sounds like you need to build a rainwater catchment system.

nick hull wrote:
In article ,
"Rob Fraser" FraserRacing"AT"RobFraser.Net wrote:

If anyone can explain why the weather reporters are wrong at least 75% of
the time

The weather reports should not only show today's forecast, but what they
forecast yesterday and the day before so we can judge accuracy better

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

That's a good idea, show the last 30 days with a graph showing how far
apart are prediction and reality

In article ,
"Rob Fraser" FraserRacing"AT"RobFraser.Net wrote:

If anyone can explain why the weather reporters are wrong at least 75% of
the time

The weather reports should not only show today's forecast, but what they
forecast yesterday and the day before so we can judge accuracy better

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On Fri, 30 May 2008 15:41:18 -0500, Rex wrote:

nick hull wrote:
In article ,
"Rob Fraser" FraserRacing"AT"RobFraser.Net wrote:

If anyone can explain why the weather reporters are wrong at least 75% of
the time

The weather reports should not only show today's forecast, but what they
forecast yesterday and the day before so we can judge accuracy better

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

That's a good idea, show the last 30 days with a graph showing how far
apart are prediction and reality

About 20 years ago, I had a high school kid working for me. His
science class undertook to rate the weathermen in the Dallas/Fort
Worth market for one year.

I forget the points they graded on but something like: temperature,
precipitation, wind, etc. They allowed a variance of some tight
margin. Maybe 2 degrees.

The "Dean of Texas Weathermen", Harold Taft was the most highly rated.
His correct percentage was only 54%.

--Andy Asberry--
------Texas-----

Rex wrote:

I'm with you, if it's worth doing, weather be damned.
I've raced in pouring rain, and I've worked corners in driving sleet.

If the day I'm going to be working out side is raining when it is time to
leave, I wait an hour or two at home. After two hours, I cancel.

Lousy weather forecasts have killed rifle matches at my club. Guys don't
want to drive 50-300 miles for a rain out. Price of gas is hurting shooting
sports far more than price of lead, copper, and powder.

Wes

www.cadillacsportsmansclub.org
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Rex wrote:

That's a good idea, show the last 30 days with a graph showing how far
apart are prediction and reality

Truth in advertising?

Wes

On Fri, 30 May 2008 18:51:55 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

Rex wrote:

That's a good idea, show the last 30 days with a graph showing how far
apart are prediction and reality

Truth in advertising?

Why do you suppose we call them the Whethermen, hmm?
Dey dunno whether it'll rain or not.

--

To change one's self is sufficient. It's the idiots who want to change
the world who are causing all the trouble --Anonymous

On Fri, 30 May 2008 09:45:56 -0500, "Rob Fraser"
FraserRacing"AT"RobFraser.Net wrote:

If anyone can explain why the weather reporters are wrong at least 75% of
the time and get everyone all spun up into calling into work as "it looks
and I hear it's going to rain. lets not work or go to the racetrack" How in
the hell can they make mega-bucks and be wrong constantly then act all
surprised they blew it for a holiday weekend for instance or in my case a
delivery of a lathe and a trip to the dunes to race dirt bikes. They say the
sky is falling and four horsemen are going to be going across the skies in
all different ends yet the day is beautiful, not a cloud in the sky after
they predict the end of times. I was not strong in meteorology in college
but I'm so friggin tired of lost hours and chances from people bailing out
due to inaccurate predictions. Now when I was a kid I went anyway. Is this
society being a bunch of pussies or just sheepole who believe what they
hear? Does this **** any of you off. I know as contractors being outside a
lot of you depend on this info. I just wanted to see if I was alone or
needed medication for being an asshole about this.

All the best fellas,

Rob

Fraser Competition Engines
Chicago, IL.

If puppy comes in quickly - it's cold outside
" " " " wet - " raining
white - " snowing
slow - it's nice out
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

On Fri, 30 May 2008 12:58:11 -0400, Pete Snell wrote:

I think people used to look at weather forecasts as a way to prepare,
and now have moved on to using them as an excuse to avoid or cancel
something. On the other hand, some regions are very hard to make good
forecasts in, due to geographic features. Living next to one of the
Great Lakes means that weather can tip one way or another very fast. I
never trust a forecast any more than a day ahead, and even then.......

Pete
The old weather rock is still the best, isn't it?
If you can see it, the sun is up. If it is wet, it's raining.
If it's icy, it's cold out, etc etc.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Rex wrote:
Tim Wescott wrote:

I don't pay much attention to the weather reports, because I live
within the Columbia Gorge Unpredictability Zone. If I can see Mt.
Hood, it's going to rain. If I can't see Mt. Hood, it's raining.

Tim: My guess is that you have a problem in believing in the
existence of any water shortages?

Stu

Given that our little 7-household water system runs out every summer,
and we have to change to a well with so much iron in it I'm not sure
if I should bathe in it or smelt it down?

No.

Sounds like you need to build a rainwater catchment system.

I've considered that. Given that it'd need a tank big enough to supply
our needs for 3-4 months of dry spell (really 6 -- some years it drys
out early and starts raining late) it'd be easier to just fill the tank
in the winter when there's water and use it up in the summer.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" gives you just what it says.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

Tim Wescott wrote:
Rex wrote:
Tim Wescott wrote:

I don't pay much attention to the weather reports, because I live
within the Columbia Gorge Unpredictability Zone. If I can see Mt.
Hood, it's going to rain. If I can't see Mt. Hood, it's raining.

Tim: My guess is that you have a problem in believing in the
existence of any water shortages?

Stu

Given that our little 7-household water system runs out every summer,
and we have to change to a well with so much iron in it I'm not sure
if I should bathe in it or smelt it down?

No.

Sounds like you need to build a rainwater catchment system.

I've considered that. Given that it'd need a tank big enough to supply
our needs for 3-4 months of dry spell (really 6 -- some years it drys
out early and starts raining late) it'd be easier to just fill the tank
in the winter when there's water and use it up in the summer.

So go for it. Or do both.
And if you have a septic system, upgrade to an aerobic and cycle the
water back into your toilet tanks, plumbed separately