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As some of you probably remember, I'm building a Kinyon style power
hammer. I'm getting to the stage where I'm about ready to start welding
things together, and was looking for advice.

The baseplate is about 3/4" thick and 2'x 3' roughly. The bolt holes are
about 3" in from the edges. I was planning on putting conveyor belting
under the baseplate. Do I need to go to the edges of the baseplate, or
would 18"x30" be enough belting to put under it? (I can't find used in
the places I've checked, so I'm going to be buying new.) Also, I can get
thicknesses up to 1/4" thick. How much is likely to be enough? I'll be
ordering today.

Todd
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Todd Rich wrote:
As some of you probably remember, I'm building a Kinyon style power
hammer. I'm getting to the stage where I'm about ready to start welding
things together, and was looking for advice.

(snip)

Sorry to follow up to myself, but I forgot the other question....

I also need to drill and tap 4 holes on the end of a 6 1/2" cylinder that
is about 29 inches long. This is a little taller than my drill press can
handle (one of the 'bench' HF specials...not to bad though, it drilled
3/4" holes through the 3/4" base plate). Is there an 'easy' way to drill
these holes short of spending $90 to rent and mag drill press?
Todd
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post an offer of a "drill four holes for a case of beer" on
craigslist. Anyone with a regular floor DP can do it for you.
If you were local to me, I would do it for free.

(or you can buy a floor style drill press).

i

On 2008-05-22, Todd Rich wrote:
Todd Rich wrote:
As some of you probably remember, I'm building a Kinyon style power
hammer. I'm getting to the stage where I'm about ready to start welding
things together, and was looking for advice.

(snip)

Sorry to follow up to myself, but I forgot the other question....

I also need to drill and tap 4 holes on the end of a 6 1/2" cylinder that
is about 29 inches long. This is a little taller than my drill press can
handle (one of the 'bench' HF specials...not to bad though, it drilled
3/4" holes through the 3/4" base plate). Is there an 'easy' way to drill
these holes short of spending $90 to rent and mag drill press?
Todd


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I also need to drill and tap 4 holes on the end of a 6 1/2" cylinder that
is about 29 inches long. This is a little taller than my drill press can
handle (one of the 'bench' HF specials...not to bad though, it drilled
3/4" holes through the 3/4" base plate). Is there an 'easy' way to drill
these holes short of spending $90 to rent and mag drill press?
Todd




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Todd Rich wrote:
As some of you probably remember, I'm building a Kinyon style power
hammer. I'm getting to the stage where I'm about ready to start welding
things together, and was looking for advice.


(snip)

Sorry to follow up to myself, but I forgot the other question....

I also need to drill and tap 4 holes on the end of a 6 1/2" cylinder that
is about 29 inches long. This is a little taller than my drill press can
handle (one of the 'bench' HF specials...not to bad though, it drilled
3/4" holes through the 3/4" base plate). Is there an 'easy' way to drill
these holes short of spending $90 to rent and mag drill press?
Todd


Turn the head of your drill press 180 degrees on the column. Orient
the drill press so the head sticks off the edge of the bench. Make a
couple of wooden double v blocks . Clamp your cylinders to the
Drill press column using the double v blocks, and block up from the
floor. Drill away.

Carl Boyd


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Todd Rich wrote:
As some of you probably remember, I'm building a Kinyon style power
hammer. I'm getting to the stage where I'm about ready to start welding
things together, and was looking for advice.

(snip)

Sorry to follow up to myself, but I forgot the other question....

I also need to drill and tap 4 holes on the end of a 6 1/2" cylinder that
is about 29 inches long. This is a little taller than my drill press can
handle (one of the 'bench' HF specials...not to bad though, it drilled
3/4" holes through the 3/4" base plate). Is there an 'easy' way to drill
these holes short of spending $90 to rent and mag drill press?
Todd


If your in or near Southern VT come on over and you can use my Drill press.
If not try a job shop , I think it would cost less then $90.

YMMV

Andrew


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On Thu, 22 May 2008 14:38:20 +0000 (UTC), Todd Rich
wrote:

As some of you probably remember, I'm building a Kinyon style power
hammer. I'm getting to the stage where I'm about ready to start welding
things together, and was looking for advice.

The baseplate is about 3/4" thick and 2'x 3' roughly. The bolt holes are
about 3" in from the edges. I was planning on putting conveyor belting
under the baseplate. Do I need to go to the edges of the baseplate, or
would 18"x30" be enough belting to put under it? (I can't find used in
the places I've checked, so I'm going to be buying new.) Also, I can get
thicknesses up to 1/4" thick. How much is likely to be enough? I'll be
ordering today.

Todd



Conveyor belting? Where are you at? Ive got a couple short rolls

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On May 22, 10:44 am, Todd Rich wrote:
Todd Rich wrote:
As some of you probably remember, I'm building a Kinyon style power
hammer. I'm getting to the stage where I'm about ready to start welding
things together, and was looking for advice.


(snip)

Sorry to follow up to myself, but I forgot the other question....

I also need to drill and tap 4 holes on the end of a 6 1/2" cylinder that
is about 29 inches long. This is a little taller than my drill press can
handle (one of the 'bench' HF specials...not to bad though, it drilled
3/4" holes through the 3/4" base plate). Is there an 'easy' way to drill
these holes short of spending $90 to rent and mag drill press?
Todd




Local to central NY?

Sticking your bench DP on the edge of the bench (and rotating the
head) was a good idea.


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If your in or near Southern VT come on over and you can use my Drill press.
If not try a job shop , I think it would cost less then $90.


YMMV


Andrew


Well, I'm in Eastern PA, so while the drive is do-able, it would probably
run more in gas than the mag drill rental. Thank you for the offer
though, it is most appreicated.
Todd
(I work in a machine shop, but I think the last time I saw a floor press
was a few years ago. I'll go looking around and see what I can find.)
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Conveyor belting? Where are you at? Ive got a couple short rolls


Gunner


Eastern PA at the moment. Shipping would probably be prohibitive. I'm
looking at $30-45 for buying new.

Btw, when the hammer is done, you are getting the plans. Sorry it has
taken so long to get to this point. Weather was kind of cold to be
working in the shop without the forge running. Shop heating is going in
this fall.
Todd


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AndrewV wrote:

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If your in or near Southern VT come on over and you can use my Drill
press. If not try a job shop , I think it would cost less then $90.


YMMV


Andrew


Well, I'm in Eastern PA, so while the drive is do-able, it would
probably run more in gas than the mag drill rental. Thank you for the
offer though, it is most appreicated.
Todd
(I work in a machine shop, but I think the last time I saw a floor
press was a few years ago. I'll go looking around and see what I can
find.)


Where in Eastern PA, I'm in Reading.

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Todd Rich wrote in
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AndrewV wrote:

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If your in or near Southern VT come on over and you can use my Drill
press. If not try a job shop , I think it would cost less then $90.


YMMV


Andrew


Well, I'm in Eastern PA, so while the drive is do-able, it would
probably run more in gas than the mag drill rental. Thank you for the
offer though, it is most appreicated.
Todd
(I work in a machine shop, but I think the last time I saw a floor
press was a few years ago. I'll go looking around and see what I can
find.)


Where in Eastern PA, I'm in Reading.


Bill


Near Quakertown. Reading is definately do-able.
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Couldn't you just use a rubber floor mat?
As far as size goes, whey not just call Ron Kinyon and ask him? I
just saw him at the BAM conference in Missouri and he's still as
friendly as always.

Pete Stanaitis
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Todd Rich wrote:

As some of you probably remember, I'm building a Kinyon style power
hammer. I'm getting to the stage where I'm about ready to start welding
things together, and was looking for advice.

The baseplate is about 3/4" thick and 2'x 3' roughly. The bolt holes are
about 3" in from the edges. I was planning on putting conveyor belting
under the baseplate. Do I need to go to the edges of the baseplate, or
would 18"x30" be enough belting to put under it? (I can't find used in
the places I've checked, so I'm going to be buying new.) Also, I can get
thicknesses up to 1/4" thick. How much is likely to be enough? I'll be
ordering today.

Todd

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You probably dont have to use a full sized rubber mat, but it would be
better.
I used a horse stall mat.
Not expensive, and they come in 5x6 or so pieces- so whatever you dont
use under the hammer can be a fatigue mat when working at it.
Most places nowadays still have feed stores, as all those pretend
farmers on their half acre farmettes need a place to buy their dog
food in big bags.
Feed stores usually have stall mats.
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On Thu, 22 May 2008 17:23:04 +0000 (UTC), Todd Rich
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Gunner wrote:
On Thu, 22 May 2008 14:38:20 +0000 (UTC), Todd Rich
wrote:


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Conveyor belting? Where are you at? Ive got a couple short rolls


Gunner


Eastern PA at the moment. Shipping would probably be prohibitive. I'm
looking at $30-45 for buying new.

Btw, when the hammer is done, you are getting the plans. Sorry it has
taken so long to get to this point. Weather was kind of cold to be
working in the shop without the forge running. Shop heating is going in
this fall.
Todd



I ferget what its like outside of California in the winter time....G

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Bill wrote:
Todd Rich wrote in
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(snip)
Well, I'm in Eastern PA, so while the drive is do-able, it would
probably run more in gas than the mag drill rental. Thank you for the
offer though, it is most appreicated.
Todd
(I work in a machine shop, but I think the last time I saw a floor
press was a few years ago. I'll go looking around and see what I can
find.)


Where in Eastern PA, I'm in Reading.


Bill


Well, it looks like I'm going an alternate route. I've gotten a 1" thick
round plate that I'll be drilling and then tapping. I've also gotten a
section of tubing to act as a sleeve. I'll mill some slots on the sleeve,
then weld it over the rod, and then drop the plate in and weld it in
place. It won't be quite as good as if I'd gone solid, but it should be
reasonably close.
Todd
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