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Worldwide Ebay Buyer And Seller Strike Scheduled for February 18-25 2008
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"B. White" wrote in message ... See the details here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Tom...&FID=2& pc=17 I am already participating. |
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B. White wrote:
See the details here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Tom...&FID=2& pc=17 Cool. Maybe there will be a good deal when no one is buying. Wes |
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Worldwide Ebay Buyer And Seller Strike Scheduled for February 18-25 2008
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:39:01 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
"Carl Boyd" quickly quoth: "B. White" wrote in message .. . See the details here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Tom...&FID=2& pc=17 I am already participating. Since September 3, 1995, I presume? g (their inception date) -- The only difference between a rut and a grave...is in their dimensions. -- Ellen Glasglow |
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Worldwide Ebay Buyer And Seller Strike Scheduled for February 18-25 2008
Larry Jaques wrote:
The only difference between a rut and a grave...is in their dimensions. Good sig! |
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Worldwide Ebay Buyer And Seller Strike Scheduled for February 18-25 2008
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:22:35 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth: Larry Jaques wrote: The only difference between a rut and a grave...is in their dimensions. Good sig! New, as of yesterday, too. I keep finding keepers in the Motivational Quote of the Day emails, too. Free from http://www.quotationspage.com/mqotd.html 4 quotes per day. eBay price raises, here is how it affects pricing: For an old car, selling price $1,300, old fees were $33.00, new will be $40.82. For a $5 item, old fees = 66 cents, new = 78 cents, an 18% hike. For a $25 item, old fee = $1.31, new = $2.18, a 66% hike under their new "lower fees" banner. Unfortunately, all these fees are passed along to us buyers. P.S: I'm not voting for Monica Lewinski's Ex-boyfriend's Wife, either. -- The only difference between a rut and a grave...is in their dimensions. -- Ellen Glasglow |
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Worldwide Ebay Buyer And Seller Strike Scheduled for February 18-25 2008
"B. White" wrote in message ... See the details here. Why wait till some certain date? If you don't like EBay's prices and/or policies, vote with your feet; now! That is how free enterprise works. Vaughn |
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Worldwide Ebay Buyer And Seller Strike Scheduled for February 18-25 2008
"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message ... "B. White" wrote in message ... See the details here. Why wait till some certain date? If you don't like EBay's prices and/or policies, vote with your feet; now! That is how free enterprise works. Vaughn You guys are SOOOOOOOOOOO slow! Not you, Vaughn. I've been protesting by not doing business with ebay for quite a while now. If it walks like a duck and smells like a pig, chances are ............ Steve |
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Worldwide Ebay Buyer And Seller Strike Scheduled for February 18-25 2008
On 2008-02-10, SteveB wrote:
You guys are SOOOOOOOOOOO slow! Not you, Vaughn. I've been protesting by not doing business with ebay for quite a while now. If it walks like a duck and smells like a pig, chances are ............ While I will not fully discontinue use of ebay, I will definitely sell less, and buy less, from now on. It will not be limited to one day. I do not like the changes and the deception. However, deals like this are hard to pass up: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=110216366690 i |
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Ignoramus27232 wrote:
On 2008-02-10, SteveB wrote: You guys are SOOOOOOOOOOO slow! Not you, Vaughn. I've been protesting by not doing business with ebay for quite a while now. If it walks like a duck and smells like a pig, chances are ............ While I will not fully discontinue use of ebay, I will definitely sell less, and buy less, from now on. It will not be limited to one day. I do not like the changes and the deception. However, deals like this are hard to pass up: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=110216366690 i For the half dozen ebay purchases and one sale I've made over the past years, they've been good. I know a lot of folks seem to think craig's list is great, but I've not found much on it, and the time I tried selling something there I got nothing out of a month of listing and subsequently sold the item in a week on ebay. The "good old days" of ebay are gone, but it still has it's uses. |
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Worldwide Ebay Buyer And Seller Strike Scheduled for February 18-25 2008
"Pete C." wrote in message ... Ignoramus27232 wrote: On 2008-02-10, SteveB wrote: You guys are SOOOOOOOOOOO slow! Not you, Vaughn. I've been protesting by not doing business with ebay for quite a while now. If it walks like a duck and smells like a pig, chances are ............ While I will not fully discontinue use of ebay, I will definitely sell less, and buy less, from now on. It will not be limited to one day. I do not like the changes and the deception. However, deals like this are hard to pass up: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=110216366690 i For the half dozen ebay purchases and one sale I've made over the past years, they've been good. I know a lot of folks seem to think craig's list is great, but I've not found much on it, and the time I tried selling something there I got nothing out of a month of listing and subsequently sold the item in a week on ebay. The "good old days" of ebay are gone, but it still has it's uses. Each has its uses. One size does not fit all. I haven't been able to damn near GIVE away a good truck rack on Craigslist for two months now. I needed a live in property manager. We went through dozens of applicants, and all flunked out for one reason or another. One took the position, then cussed me out a week before starting for "not respecting him enough". I did manage to find a couple with clean records and LEO experience, and so far so good. It's a jungle out there. There's good and bad things. Steve |
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Worldwide Ebay Buyer And Seller Strike Scheduled for February 18-25 2008
Ignoramus27232 wrote:
On 2008-02-10, SteveB wrote: You guys are SOOOOOOOOOOO slow! Not you, Vaughn. I've been protesting by not doing business with ebay for quite a while now. If it walks like a duck and smells like a pig, chances are ............ While I will not fully discontinue use of ebay, I will definitely sell less, and buy less, from now on. It will not be limited to one day. I do not like the changes and the deception. However, deals like this are hard to pass up: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=110216366690 i What are you going to use it for? I was at an auction last year where you could have got a horizontal mill with one attached. I'd have been interested but I'd have had to take the mill too. http://wess.freeshell.org/usenet/rec...Bridgeport.jpg http://wess.freeshell.org/usenet/rec.../KempSmith.JPG If only the mill had been a universal.... Wes Wes Wes |
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Worldwide Ebay Buyer And Seller Strike Scheduled for February 18-25 2008
Larry Jaques wrote:
New, as of yesterday, too. I keep finding keepers in the Motivational Quote of the Day emails, too. Free from http://www.quotationspage.com/mqotd.html 4 quotes per day. I'll monitor it for a few days to see if their offerings strike my fancy. Thx. eBay price raises, here is how it affects pricing: For an old car, selling price $1,300, old fees were $33.00, new will be $40.82. For a $5 item, old fees = 66 cents, new = 78 cents, an 18% hike. For a $25 item, old fee = $1.31, new = $2.18, a 66% hike under their new "lower fees" banner. Unfortunately, all these fees are passed along to us buyers. Did you mean sellers? If I understand correctly, reserves cost the seller more that no reserves. Of course making the guaranteed profit on s&h seems to be the common trick. I can't believe that, other than firearms, eBay doesn't have serious competition. It just seems un-American. Wes |
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Worldwide Ebay Buyer And Seller Strike Scheduled for February 18-25 2008
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:38:57 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus27232 quickly quoth: On 2008-02-10, SteveB wrote: You guys are SOOOOOOOOOOO slow! Not you, Vaughn. I've been protesting by not doing business with ebay for quite a while now. If it walks like a duck and smells like a pig, chances are ............ While I will not fully discontinue use of ebay, I will definitely sell less, and buy less, from now on. It will not be limited to one day. I do not like the changes and the deception. We should all write to them to tell them as much. I will be on the 18th. They grossed seven billion last year (netting over a billion)and now they're turning around to screw the very people who made them rich? UFR! I didn't know (until yesterday) they had a 25% interest in Craigslist. -- The only difference between a rut and a grave...is in their dimensions. -- Ellen Glasglow |
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Worldwide Ebay Buyer And Seller Strike Scheduled for February 18-252008
"B. White" wrote:
See the details here. http://www.unionboob.com/ Strike? This isn't a union newsgroup! -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Wes wrote:
Did you mean sellers? The sellers get their money from the buyers, so who pays? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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SteveB wrote:
If it walks like a duck and smells like a pig, chances are ............ It's Millwright Ron spreading his union propaganda? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
Did you mean sellers? The sellers get their money from the buyers, so who pays? Sort of like tax those evil oil companies. Wes |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
The sellers get their money from the buyers, so who pays? If the seller sets a higher start or higher reserve, then the buyer pays, if he still wants it at the higher price. If it is the auction competition that sets the price, then the buyer isn't going to bid more because the seller fees are higher!! It really boils down to the fact that the selling price is determined by the buyer and higher seller fees aren't going to affect that. The buyer doesn't pay more. Bob |
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On Feb 11, 8:32*pm, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Wes wrote: Did you mean sellers? * * *The sellers get their money from the buyers, so who pays? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida ************************************** Good Morning to the TV repairman. Are you stiil scaming Veterans. Selling worn out computers to the combat disabled |
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:35:45 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Bob
Engelhardt quickly quoth: Michael A. Terrell wrote: The sellers get their money from the buyers, so who pays? If the seller sets a higher start or higher reserve, then the buyer pays, if he still wants it at the higher price. If it is the auction competition that sets the price, then the buyer isn't going to bid more because the seller fees are higher!! It really boils down to the fact that the selling price is determined by the buyer and higher seller fees aren't going to affect that. The buyer doesn't pay more. For the millions of items sold on Buy It Nows, the prices will be higher and the buyer will pay the extra. If eBay gets too pricy, the wholesale price we're paying will get too close to local pricing and we'll switch to the local vendors. As for auction prices, too many people get auction fever and pay way too much as it is. That probably won't change. Higher fees only hurt the wholesalers and us chea^H^H^H^Hfrugal buyers. -- SALMON -- The Other Pink Meat |
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Millwright Ron wrote:
Good Morning to the TV repairman. Broadcast Engineer, but I don't expect a lobotomized union whore to know the difference. Are you stiil scaming Veterans. Selling worn out computers to the combat disabled Any proof that I have sold even one computer? You don't because there isn't any. If you had anything to back you up, or you would have filed charges against me. You are full of your usual lies and BS. I give the computers away. I pay for the gasoline needed to pick them up, but i expect them to pick up the completed systems so I don't have to pay for transportation twice. I also repair computers for veterans for free, if I have the parts. If they need something I don't have, i tell them where they can buy it, and the prices from each source. Now tell us what you do for America's Veterans? Trying to form a union won't help at all, you old loser. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Bob Engelhardt wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote: The sellers get their money from the buyers, so who pays? If the seller sets a higher start or higher reserve, then the buyer pays, if he still wants it at the higher price. If it is the auction competition that sets the price, then the buyer isn't going to bid more because the seller fees are higher!! It really boils down to the fact that the selling price is determined by the buyer and higher seller fees aren't going to affect that. The buyer doesn't pay more. Only if the seller accepts less that they wanted. If the seller has to have $20, then the buyer pays that, the Ebay fees and shipping. Are you willing to accept less for what you list, so the buyer doesn't pay more? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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"B. White" wrote in message ... See the details here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Tom...&FID=2& pc=17 The tine fee increase is more than justified by the number of people that could view the auction listing.. The ebay price is about equivalent to a newspaper ad but millions of people' worldwide can view the auction. Or the sellers could use a local auction house where fees are 30 to 40 percent of the sale. |
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:15:45 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Bob Engelhardt wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: The sellers get their money from the buyers, so who pays? If the seller sets a higher start or higher reserve, then the buyer pays, if he still wants it at the higher price. If it is the auction competition that sets the price, then the buyer isn't going to bid more because the seller fees are higher!! It really boils down to the fact that the selling price is determined by the buyer and higher seller fees aren't going to affect that. The buyer doesn't pay more. Only if the seller accepts less that they wanted. If the seller has to have $20, then the buyer pays that, the Ebay fees and shipping. Are you willing to accept less for what you list, so the buyer doesn't pay more? Small, rhetorical comment:- What would it cost sellers per item to run a physical shop? What would it cost sellers per item to run their own internet shop? If it's less, the answer is clear. If it's more the answer is also clear Mark Rand RTFM |
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:22:08 +0000, with neither quill nor qualm, Mark
Rand quickly quoth: On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:15:45 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Bob Engelhardt wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: The sellers get their money from the buyers, so who pays? If the seller sets a higher start or higher reserve, then the buyer pays, if he still wants it at the higher price. If it is the auction competition that sets the price, then the buyer isn't going to bid more because the seller fees are higher!! It really boils down to the fact that the selling price is determined by the buyer and higher seller fees aren't going to affect that. The buyer doesn't pay more. Only if the seller accepts less that they wanted. If the seller has to have $20, then the buyer pays that, the Ebay fees and shipping. Are you willing to accept less for what you list, so the buyer doesn't pay more? Small, rhetorical comment:- What would it cost sellers per item to run a physical shop? What would it cost sellers per item to run their own internet shop? If it's less, the answer is clear. If it's more the answer is also clear More, in both cases. BUT, you forgot that there are other venues available to the sellers, so eBay is simply shooting themselves in the foot. By alienating their entire base with an unnecessary price hike, they'll likely kill themselves. After the raise, they'll be like the $2,000 hooker. Hey, she's beautiful, but there are a lot of other ladies out there with almost the same traffic (cringe) and much better prices. Once the bailout starts, I'd sure hate to own eBay stock. Has anyone checked their stock prices lately? I'll bet they're already down quite a bit. Ah, here is it. Down from $40 in Oct 07 to $27 this month. When did they release the news about their price "drops"? http://quote.morningstar.com/Quote/Q...px?ticker=EBAY Click the year ticker graph. They're headed for the toilet. -- SALMON -- The Other Pink Meat |
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