I dunno... I'm just a sucker for things that work, and try to find
"legitimate uses" for things that are just neat to have; so....


I stumbled across a VN-era gasoline "trashcan" immersion water heater in
NOS packaging for about $50 including shipping. Had to have it.

It arrived last night -- 50lb of iron, partly Parkerized, smeared with
cosmoline, and with the full step-chart tech manual inside.

It took me about a half-hour to refamiliarize myself with it and get it
assembled. Then it took another half-hour to bring a 32-gallon trash can
full of 50 degree water to a full rolling boil.

Just the thing for hurricane season power outages, for washing dishes and
bodies.

LLoyd

Lloyd,


I stumbled across a VN-era gasoline "trashcan" immersion water heater in
NOS packaging for about $50 including shipping. Had to have it.


It took me about a half-hour to refamiliarize myself with it and get it
assembled. Then it took another half-hour to bring a 32-gallon trash can
full of 50 degree water to a full rolling boil.

Yeah, but now you need to get two mo wash, rinse and rinse, as I recall.

Northe

Northe fired this volley in
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Yeah, but now you need to get two mo wash, rinse and rinse, as I
recall.


One more. Hot soap, hot rinse, cold rinse. When cookie left the soap out
of #1, he could make soup for the next meal. G

LLoyd

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
. 3.70...
I dunno... I'm just a sucker for things that work, and try to find
"legitimate uses" for things that are just neat to have; so....


I stumbled across a VN-era gasoline "trashcan" immersion water heater in
NOS packaging for about $50 including shipping. Had to have it.

It arrived last night -- 50lb of iron, partly Parkerized, smeared with
cosmoline, and with the full step-chart tech manual inside.

It took me about a half-hour to refamiliarize myself with it and get it
assembled. Then it took another half-hour to bring a 32-gallon trash can
full of 50 degree water to a full rolling boil.

Just the thing for hurricane season power outages, for washing dishes and
bodies.

LLoyd

Memories of my six years in the Utah National Guard. My enlistment expired
in '62. As I recall, they are relatively simple devices, gasoline being the
fuel.

Surely, those immersion heaters must go back at least to WW II, eh?

Harold

Harold and Susan Vordos wrote:
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
. 3.70...
I dunno... I'm just a sucker for things that work, and try to find
"legitimate uses" for things that are just neat to have; so....


I stumbled across a VN-era gasoline "trashcan" immersion water heater in
NOS packaging for about $50 including shipping. Had to have it.

It arrived last night -- 50lb of iron, partly Parkerized, smeared with
cosmoline, and with the full step-chart tech manual inside.

It took me about a half-hour to refamiliarize myself with it and get it
assembled. Then it took another half-hour to bring a 32-gallon trash can
full of 50 degree water to a full rolling boil.

Just the thing for hurricane season power outages, for washing dishes and
bodies.

LLoyd

Memories of my six years in the Utah National Guard. My enlistment expired
in '62. As I recall, they are relatively simple devices, gasoline being the
fuel.

Surely, those immersion heaters must go back at least to WW II, eh?

We used them in both regular army and army
reserve. I got out in '73. We had C-rations
dated in the '50's

"Harold and Susan Vordos" fired this volley
As I recall, they are relatively simple devices,
gasoline being the fuel.

"Relatively simple" goes way beyond the complexity of them.

They're a "doughnut" shaped burner/heater that goes in the bottom of the
can. There's a single baffle that seals off the gallery in the doughnut
between the downdraft tube and the chimney.

A drip of gas falls onto a grate in the down tube, burns, and shoots the
flame all the way around the doughnut to the chimney side, where the
updraft keeps the action going.

The ones I worked in 'Nam didn't have any moving parts except the spigot
valve to control the gas drip. This "new" one has a swing-out igniter
pot in the chimney designed to help establish the updraft.

We just threw a wad of burning paper down the chimney, dripped a little
gas in the down tube, and after about a minute of heating the chimney,
threw a match down on the gas. It turns out that's a LOT easier way to
start the beast than the documented method in the manual.

Yeah... no moving parts, all welded construction, plain old merchant
stock steel sheet metal so you could fix them in the field, no 'custom'
parts -- all stock pipe fittings, etc.

LLoyd

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:19:35 -0700, Northe wrote:

Lloyd,


I stumbled across a VN-era gasoline "trashcan" immersion water heater in
NOS packaging for about $50 including shipping. Had to have it.


It took me about a half-hour to refamiliarize myself with it and get it
assembled. Then it took another half-hour to bring a 32-gallon trash can
full of 50 degree water to a full rolling boil.

Yeah, but now you need to get two mo wash, rinse and rinse, as I recall.

Northe

One rinse would suffice if they'd used Dawn or Joy rather than that
yellow bar soap. It was good for poison ivy, though.

Heater,immersion, M-67,liquid-fuel fired, for corrugated cans.
The heat output of those heaters is impressive: to heat 32 gallons of
water from 50F to boiling in 30 minutes takes about 86,000 BTU/hr or
about 25 kilowatts. Burning gasoline produces about 124,000
BTU/gallon, though some of that goes up the little stack.

Don Foreman fired this volley in
:

Burning gasoline produces about 124,000
BTU/gallon, though some of that goes up the little stack.


That was the one thing that surprised me. I don't ever recall "trying
out" touching the stack when I was in nam. Last night, I did. It gets
hot enough to hurt, but barely hot enough to burn skin. It's pretty
amazing that they are able to extract that much energy from the fuel in
that simple an affair.

I also never remembered seeing more than one or two sections of stovepipe
on the ones in country. This one has eight feet of pipe. That will
increase the draft, and might add to the efficiency.

LLoyd

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:04:57 GMT, "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote:

Memories of my six years in the Utah National Guard. My enlistment expired
in '62. As I recall, they are relatively simple devices, gasoline being the
fuel.

Surely, those immersion heaters must go back at least to WW II, eh?

Probably not, and certainly not wildly available mid war. My father was
badly burned in a laundry accident during the war and spent months on a
hospital ship. Perhaps this helped inspire there invention?
--
William

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:

I dunno... I'm just a sucker for things that work, and try to find
"legitimate uses" for things that are just neat to have; so....


I stumbled across a VN-era gasoline "trashcan" immersion water heater in
NOS packaging for about $50 including shipping. Had to have it.

It arrived last night -- 50lb of iron, partly Parkerized, smeared with
cosmoline, and with the full step-chart tech manual inside.

It took me about a half-hour to refamiliarize myself with it and get it
assembled. Then it took another half-hour to bring a 32-gallon trash can
full of 50 degree water to a full rolling boil.

Just the thing for hurricane season power outages, for washing dishes and
bodies.

LLoyd


That the one with two stacks coming out of a squared section donut?

Ever leave one dripping for the poor bugger that had to go and light them?

Ever stuffed a roll of moon floss into the stack?

Evil fun!

If this one is at all like the ones I was around, I always figured
them for a bit large. I considered building a smaller one, to heat 5 or
10 gallos for hot showers in the hunt camp, and the like, but
technology, in the form of an electric pumping, propane fired shower
heater takes the real need away.

Good score, at $50. Dunno if a good scrounge could build a decent
working one for that, all said and done.

Cheers
Trevor Jones

"William Bagwell" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:04:57 GMT, "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote:

Memories of my six years in the Utah National Guard. My enlistment
expired
in '62. As I recall, they are relatively simple devices, gasoline being
the
fuel.

Surely, those immersion heaters must go back at least to WW II, eh?

Probably not, and certainly not wildly available mid war. My father was
badly burned in a laundry accident during the war and spent months on a
hospital ship. Perhaps this helped inspire there invention?
--
William

Interesting. I had simply assumed they were quite old, considering the vast
majority of the equipment we had while I was in the guard was WW II era
stuff. Even our trusty old jeeps. The CO had a more modern version,
however.

I was a member of the 625th MP Co. ----our sidearm was the 45 ACP ---and
judging from their dreadful condition, likely from WW I. :-)

I'll never forget the reaming I got when we were at the firing line, for
qualification, and told to squeeze off one round. Mine managed two, but
only one pull of the trigger. I had to do a serious amount of
explaining-----"honest, Sir, I really pulled it only once". Full auto,
but on its own terms.

I sure as hell don't miss those days.

Harold

Jim Stewart wrote:

Surely, those immersion heaters must go back at least to WW II, eh?

We used them in both regular army and army
reserve. I got out in '73. We had C-rations
dated in the '50's


When dad was stationed in Germany in the early 60's, he brought home some
kind of rations that were being disposed of. The thought of the round tins
of big crackers and peanut butter still makes me salivate today.

Wes

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
. 3.70...
"Harold and Susan Vordos" fired this volley
As I recall, they are relatively simple devices,
gasoline being the fuel.

"Relatively simple" goes way beyond the complexity of them.

They're a "doughnut" shaped burner/heater that goes in the bottom of the
can. There's a single baffle that seals off the gallery in the doughnut
between the downdraft tube and the chimney.

A drip of gas falls onto a grate in the down tube, burns, and shoots the
flame all the way around the doughnut to the chimney side, where the
updraft keeps the action going.

The ones I worked in 'Nam didn't have any moving parts except the spigot
valve to control the gas drip. This "new" one has a swing-out igniter
pot in the chimney designed to help establish the updraft.

LLoyd

The heaters (known as "Herman Nelson") we had in Paradise all featured the
swing out door. At one LZ (Pony) I appropriated a HN from a neighboring 105
battery. We constructed a shower stall of 105 ammo boxes topped with a
corrugated can and HN- w/ pull chain showerhead in the bottom. Payed the
locals 1/2 buck to fill it everyday. That was gracious livin'.

According to Harold and Susan Vordos :

[ ... ]

I was a member of the 625th MP Co. ----our sidearm was the 45 ACP ---and
judging from their dreadful condition, likely from WW I. :-)

I'll never forget the reaming I got when we were at the firing line, for
qualification, and told to squeeze off one round. Mine managed two, but
only one pull of the trigger. I had to do a serious amount of
explaining-----"honest, Sir, I really pulled it only once". Full auto,
but on its own terms.

You were *lucky*. A place where I used to go to shoot had an
accident. One fellow brought in a very worn .45 ACP which he had
inherited, loaded up a clip and put it in. When he pulled the slide
latch, it proceed to load and fire each round in rapid sequence, before
he could shift to get a better grip. As a result, the weapon pivoted on
the web of his thumb climbing with each round until the last two shots
went into his head and chest. He did *not* survive that.

It sounds as though yours was very close to that stage.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message
...
According to Harold and Susan Vordos :

[ ... ]

I was a member of the 625th MP Co. ----our sidearm was the 45
P ---and
judging from their dreadful condition, likely from WW I. :-)

I'll never forget the reaming I got when we were at the firing line, for
qualification, and told to squeeze off one round. Mine managed two, but
only one pull of the trigger. I had to do a serious amount of
explaining-----"honest, Sir, I really pulled it only once". Full auto,
but on its own terms.

You were *lucky*. A place where I used to go to shoot had an
accident. One fellow brought in a very worn .45 ACP which he had
inherited, loaded up a clip and put it in. When he pulled the slide
latch, it proceed to load and fire each round in rapid sequence, before
he could shift to get a better grip. As a result, the weapon pivoted on
the web of his thumb climbing with each round until the last two shots
went into his head and chest. He did *not* survive that.

It sounds as though yours was very close to that stage.

Enjoy,
DoN.

It also sounds like I was lucky!

Thanks , DoN.

Harold

DoN. Nichols wrote:
According to Harold and Susan Vordos :

[ ... ]

I was a member of the 625th MP Co. ----our sidearm was the 45 ACP ---and
judging from their dreadful condition, likely from WW I. :-)

I'll never forget the reaming I got when we were at the firing line, for
qualification, and told to squeeze off one round. Mine managed two, but
only one pull of the trigger. I had to do a serious amount of
explaining-----"honest, Sir, I really pulled it only once". Full auto,
but on its own terms.

You were *lucky*. A place where I used to go to shoot had an
accident. One fellow brought in a very worn .45 ACP which he had
inherited, loaded up a clip and put it in. When he pulled the slide
latch, it proceed to load and fire each round in rapid sequence, before
he could shift to get a better grip. As a result, the weapon pivoted on
the web of his thumb climbing with each round until the last two shots
went into his head and chest. He did *not* survive that.

It sounds as though yours was very close to that stage.

The lesson might be, when trying out an unknown weapon, first load a
single round & see what happens. If that works, load 2 rounds & try again...

"David R Brooks" wrote in message
...
DoN. Nichols wrote:
According to Harold and Susan Vordos :

[ ... ]

I was a member of the 625th MP Co. ----our sidearm was the 45
P ---and
judging from their dreadful condition, likely from WW I. :-)

I'll never forget the reaming I got when we were at the firing line, for
qualification, and told to squeeze off one round. Mine managed two,
but
only one pull of the trigger. I had to do a serious amount of
explaining-----"honest, Sir, I really pulled it only once". Full
auto,
but on its own terms.

You were *lucky*. A place where I used to go to shoot had an
accident. One fellow brought in a very worn .45 ACP which he had
inherited, loaded up a clip and put it in. When he pulled the slide
latch, it proceed to load and fire each round in rapid sequence, before
he could shift to get a better grip. As a result, the weapon pivoted on
the web of his thumb climbing with each round until the last two shots
went into his head and chest. He did *not* survive that.

It sounds as though yours was very close to that stage.

The lesson might be, when trying out an unknown weapon, first load a
single round & see what happens. If that works, load 2 rounds & try
again...

Chuckle!

Apparently you've never been in the service, not even the guard.

What you do is what you're told, in exactly the sequence that is prescribed.

I agree with your thoughts------it's just that as a private, you can't
exercise any options.

Harold