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So, many years ago, I worked at a shop that, among other things, had an
internal keyway cutter that was used on a vertical mill. Used a shaft that was the same size as the bore of the part and had a small cutter mounted at the end...the machine spindle provide the power and thru some bit of magic, the cutter at the other end turned, cutting the internal keyway. My problem now is trying to remember the name of this handy little thing as I may have a job coming up that would REALLY be able to use it, asopposed to single pointing a .332 wide keyway 6.3" in a 1.024"dia bore. Thanks gang, Mike |
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![]() "The Davenport's" wrote in message ... So, many years ago, I worked at a shop that, among other things, had an internal keyway cutter that was used on a vertical mill. Used a shaft that was the same size as the bore of the part and had a small cutter mounted at the end...the machine spindle provide the power and thru some bit of magic, the cutter at the other end turned, cutting the internal keyway. My problem now is trying to remember the name of this handy little thing as I may have a job coming up that would REALLY be able to use it, asopposed to single pointing a .332 wide keyway 6.3" in a 1.024"dia bore. Thanks gang, Mike Oh, yeah...the question...does anyone know the name of this item? Or better yet, does anyone have one laying around thta they want/need to get rid of? Thanks |
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Lookup keyway broach. Used with press not mill.
- Bruce E-mail : Visit my web-page at : http://bruce.johnstone.home.comcast.net/ Politicians are like diapers. They should be changed frequently-----and for the same reason. "The Davenport's" wrote in message ... So, many years ago, I worked at a shop that, among other things, had an internal keyway cutter that was used on a vertical mill. Used a shaft that was the same size as the bore of the part and had a small cutter mounted at the end...the machine spindle provide the power and thru some bit of magic, the cutter at the other end turned, cutting the internal keyway. My problem now is trying to remember the name of this handy little thing as I may have a job coming up that would REALLY be able to use it, asopposed to single pointing a .332 wide keyway 6.3" in a 1.024"dia bore. Thanks gang, Mike |
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Yeah, I know about that kind of broach...use them all the time...for the
part I'm looking at, a standard push or pull broach won't work, which is why I was hoping to find info on the keyway cutter I'd described. Oh...EDM is not an option...the part is nylon "BJ" wrote in message . .. Lookup keyway broach. Used with press not mill. - Bruce E-mail : Visit my web-page at : http://bruce.johnstone.home.comcast.net/ Politicians are like diapers. They should be changed frequently-----and for the same reason. "The Davenport's" wrote in message ... So, many years ago, I worked at a shop that, among other things, had an internal keyway cutter that was used on a vertical mill. Used a shaft that was the same size as the bore of the part and had a small cutter mounted at the end...the machine spindle provide the power and thru some bit of magic, the cutter at the other end turned, cutting the internal keyway. My problem now is trying to remember the name of this handy little thing as I may have a job coming up that would REALLY be able to use it, asopposed to single pointing a .332 wide keyway 6.3" in a 1.024"dia bore. Thanks gang, Mike |
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![]() "Karl Townsend" wrote in message anews.com... http://www.slatertools.com/rotarybroachingtools.htm Karl Re-reading my post, I wasn't cear...the rotating cutter at the end of the "broach" cuts parallel with the centerline of the bore. Think woodruff cutter, but longer keyway. And my ASCII art is nowhere near goodenough to draw this one. Mike |
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 21:17:23 -0500, "The Davenport's"
wrote: Re-reading my post, I wasn't cear...the rotating cutter at the end of the "broach" cuts parallel with the centerline of the bore. Think woodruff cutter, but longer keyway. I've never run across the device you're describing, but purpose-built keyway cutting machines are usually referred to as keyseaters. Maybe that will help as a search term if no one comes up with something more specific. -- Ned Simmons |
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The Davenport's wrote:
So, many years ago, I worked at a shop that, among other things, had an internal keyway cutter that was used on a vertical mill. Used a shaft that was the same size as the bore of the part and had a small cutter mounted at the end...the machine spindle provide the power and thru some bit of magic, the cutter at the other end turned, cutting the internal keyway. My problem now is trying to remember the name of this handy little thing as I may have a job coming up that would REALLY be able to use it, asopposed to single pointing a .332 wide keyway 6.3" in a 1.024"dia bore. Thanks gang, Mike Key Seating Miller. National Tool used to make them. For all those of a doubtful disposition: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/keymilling.jpg Tom |
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On 2 Aug, 01:17, "The Davenport's" wrote:
So, many years ago, I worked at a shop that, among other things, had an internal keyway cutter that was used on a vertical mill. Used a shaft that was the same size as the bore of the part and had a small cutter mounted at the end...the machine spindle provide the power and thru some bit of magic, the cutter at the other end turned, cutting the internal keyway. My problem now is trying to remember the name of this handy little thing as I may have a job coming up that would REALLY be able to use it, asopposed to single pointing a .332 wide keyway 6.3" in a 1.024"dia bore. Thanks gang, Mike Mike,they are called a slotting head.Most manufacturers made them as an option for their universal mills.Bridgeport made a self powered one that bolted on the back end of the ram. Mark. |
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The Davenport's wrote:
So, many years ago, I worked at a shop that, among other things, had an internal keyway cutter that was used on a vertical mill. Used a shaft that was the same size as the bore of the part and had a small cutter mounted at the end...the machine spindle provide the power and thru some bit of magic, the cutter at the other end turned, cutting the internal keyway. My problem now is trying to remember the name of this handy little thing as I may have a job coming up that would REALLY be able to use it, asopposed to single pointing a .332 wide keyway 6.3" in a 1.024"dia bore. Thanks gang, Mike Key Seating Miller. National Tool used to make them. For all those of a doubtful disposition: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/keymilling.jpg Tom YES!!!!!! That is EXACTLY what I was looking for! I'll be on the phone today for info! Thank againl, Tom Mike |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... On 2 Aug, 01:17, "The Davenport's" wrote: So, many years ago, I worked at a shop that, among other things, had an internal keyway cutter that was used on a vertical mill. Used a shaft that was the same size as the bore of the part and had a small cutter mounted at the end...the machine spindle provide the power and thru some bit of magic, the cutter at the other end turned, cutting the internal keyway. My problem now is trying to remember the name of this handy little thing as I may have a job coming up that would REALLY be able to use it, asopposed to single pointing a .332 wide keyway 6.3" in a 1.024"dia bore. Thanks gang, Mike Mike,they are called a slotting head.Most manufacturers made them as an option for their universal mills.Bridgeport made a self powered one that bolted on the back end of the ram. Mark. We actually do still have one where I work and we use it from time to time, but they only have about 2" of stroke, and I'll be needing over 6.3" for the part I'm looking at. Thanks anyway, tho Mike |
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Tom wrote:
The Davenport's wrote: So, many years ago, I worked at a shop that, among other things, had an internal keyway cutter that was used on a vertical mill. Used a shaft that was the same size as the bore of the part and had a small cutter mounted at the end...the machine spindle provide the power and thru some bit of magic, the cutter at the other end turned, cutting the internal keyway. My problem now is trying to remember the name of this handy little thing as I may have a job coming up that would REALLY be able to use it, asopposed to single pointing a .332 wide keyway 6.3" in a 1.024"dia bore. Thanks gang, Mike Key Seating Miller. National Tool used to make them. For all those of a doubtful disposition: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/keymilling.jpg Tom Ever seen inside one? The only thing I can visualise is a worm acting direct on the cutter. Can't really see there being room for a worm wheel. Hmmm.... Maybe a bevel gear beside the cutter. Chain drive? Cheers Trevor Jones |
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:05:29 GMT, Trevor Jones
wrote: Tom wrote: The Davenport's wrote: So, many years ago, I worked at a shop that, among other things, had an internal keyway cutter that was used on a vertical mill. Used a shaft that was the same size as the bore of the part and had a small cutter mounted at the end...the machine spindle provide the power and thru some bit of magic, the cutter at the other end turned, cutting the internal keyway. My problem now is trying to remember the name of this handy little thing as I may have a job coming up that would REALLY be able to use it, asopposed to single pointing a .332 wide keyway 6.3" in a 1.024"dia bore. Thanks gang, Mike Key Seating Miller. National Tool used to make them. For all those of a doubtful disposition: http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/keymilling.jpg Tom Ever seen inside one? The only thing I can visualise is a worm acting direct on the cutter. Can't really see there being room for a worm wheel. Hmmm.... Maybe a bevel gear beside the cutter. Chain drive? Cheers Trevor Jones I haven't looked inside one, but I believe this is the patent for it: Patent number: 795420 Filing date: Feb 6, 1904 Issue date: Jul 1905 http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT795420 From what I can figure out the shaft that powers it has pins (3 pins) stuck into the end of it (inline) that engage with the cutting wheel. A bit clunky but simple and obviously effective. Here is another patent that is powered from the side via a line of gears to reach the cutter at the end. Patent number: 1239159 Filing date: Apr 17, 1915 Issue date: Sep 1917 http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT1239159 There are a lot of patents concerning "key seating" tools and machines. I just wanted to know how the one linked to in the dropbox worked... -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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![]() Key Seating Miller. National Tool used to make them. Here's the site: http://www.keyseaters.com/ ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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