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herbert box tool
hello all. this is my first post so bare with me if I have repeated
what has been asked before. I have a Herbert no 5 preoptive lathe with many accessories. I have figured out the die-heads and have had good results. now I am needing some help on the box tool heads. can some one give me the setup procedure for these and also the tool sharpening angles as these look quite different from the norm. plus most of my tooling uses inserts so grinding is relatively new to me. thanks . Ron |
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Ron from Oz wrote: hello all. this is my first post so bare with me if I have repeated what has been asked before. I have a Herbert no 5 preoptive lathe with many accessories. I have figured out the die-heads and have had good results. now I am needing some help on the box tool heads. can some one give me the setup procedure for these and also the tool sharpening angles as these look quite different from the norm. plus most of my tooling uses inserts so grinding is relatively new to me. thanks . Ron Ron,basically you turn a short length to the diameter you want using a conventional tool.Then set your box turner over it and adjust the rollers until they are just touching,you should be able to stop them turning with your finger,be careful you dont get your finger under the roller.To set the tool it depends on whether the tool is mounted conventionally or at a tangent.Before turning the diameter with the box tool you should put a chamfer on the nose of the bar.Ward did a really good book for setting and using tooling on capstan lathes and this would apply to the Herbert as well.There was one on Ebay.co.uk if it`s gone Alec at Budget Machinery in England should be able to do you a copy.Email me for his address.Incidentally I threw mountains of No.5 tooling in the skip a few months ago. regards,|Mark. |
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Two ways to set box tool , one is to set rollers on OD of stock. Then set
tool to dia you want . This way set rollers ahead of tool. I used to set them ahead about .200 in front of tool. In fact if you are skilled at tool grinding you can face and chamfer parts by having rollers set this way with a box tool. Other way is you can turn stock to dia you want then set rollers to size behind cutting edge of tool that is why it works best with chamfer on stock Chamfer lets cutter and rollers engage before full load of cut is engaged. You should use flood coolent and a chip breaker behind cutting edge . I worked in a shop one time where the chip snaked across the shop floor out the door and across a wide street without breaking. I think first way is easier if you have never done it before. As you can watch the chip and cutting edge. And someone made an insert tool for box tools. But to find one you will probably have to talk to an old timer at a carbide company. Jim "Ron from Oz" wrote in message oups.com... hello all. this is my first post so bare with me if I have repeated what has been asked before. I have a Herbert no 5 preoptive lathe with many accessories. I have figured out the die-heads and have had good results. now I am needing some help on the box tool heads. can some one give me the setup procedure for these and also the tool sharpening angles as these look quite different from the norm. plus most of my tooling uses inserts so grinding is relatively new to me. thanks . Ron |
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On 19 Apr 2006 23:39:29 -0700, "Ron from Oz"
wrote: hello all. this is my first post so bare with me if I have repeated what has been asked before. I have a Herbert no 5 preoptive lathe with many accessories. I have figured out the die-heads and have had good results. now I am needing some help on the box tool heads. can some one give me the setup procedure for these and also the tool sharpening angles as these look quite different from the norm. plus most of my tooling uses inserts so grinding is relatively new to me. thanks . Ron As they say at the nudist colony, "bare with me...." :) |
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herbert box tool
thanks. the weekend is here and i will start to tinker
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"Ron from Oz" wrote in
oups.com: hello all. this is my first post so bare with me if I have repeated what has been asked before. I have a Herbert no 5 preoptive lathe with many accessories. I have figured out the die-heads and have had good results. now I am needing some help on the box tool heads. can some one give me the setup procedure for these and also the tool sharpening angles as these look quite different from the norm. plus most of my tooling uses inserts so grinding is relatively new to me. Ron, While not specific to Herbert, there is a wealth of information on a variety of screw machine and turret lathe type tooling he http://www.sommatool.com/papers.asp Enjoy. -- Dan Quid Aere Perennius |
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