I was asked to go through a recently deceased fellows shop a couple
weeks ago by the surviving family member, and have been catagorizing
and whatnot some of the Stuff. He was a retired
electrician/handyman/hobbyist and had a rather eclectic mix of Stuff.

She told me I could take what I wanted..and that to a Scrounger...was
pure music.

Among some of the goodies I schleped home today (not counting the mint
Trans-Oceanic Royal D7000 and the Pentax ME Super) was a rather
interesting tool box..designed to be wall mounted...containing a wierd
looking O/A type torch and 7 bottles of some sorts of metal powders,
along with various bottles of fluxes.

Unfortunately..the manuals and data cards (all neatly in their proper
racks..are stuck together..so I may have to try to steam them apart.

Im assuming this is for flame spraying of various metal coatings?

Full bottle of

Cuprotec 10180

Borotec 10009

Nitec 10224

Bronzochrome 10186

Bronzochrome 10185 (half full)

Chrometec 10680 (only a little left)

about a half bottle of powder inside the box itself..something
spilled.


What do I have, and how do I use it? It would be nice to be able to
build up worn things such as shafts and so forth. I do have an OD
grinder.

Any info would be appreciated

Gunner pondering a nifty pistol designed to throw a string some
distance...report later G




"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
I was asked to go through a recently deceased fellows shop a couple
weeks ago by the surviving family member, and have been catagorizing
and whatnot some of the Stuff. He was a retired
electrician/handyman/hobbyist and had a rather eclectic mix of Stuff.

She told me I could take what I wanted..and that to a Scrounger...was
pure music.

Among some of the goodies I schleped home today (not counting the mint
Trans-Oceanic Royal D7000 and the Pentax ME Super) was a rather
interesting tool box..designed to be wall mounted...containing a wierd
looking O/A type torch and 7 bottles of some sorts of metal powders,
along with various bottles of fluxes.

Unfortunately..the manuals and data cards (all neatly in their proper
racks..are stuck together..so I may have to try to steam them apart.

Im assuming this is for flame spraying of various metal coatings?

Full bottle of

Cuprotec 10180

Borotec 10009

Nitec 10224

Bronzochrome 10186

Bronzochrome 10185 (half full)

Chrometec 10680 (only a little left)

about a half bottle of powder inside the box itself..something
spilled.


What do I have, and how do I use it? It would be nice to be able to
build up worn things such as shafts and so forth. I do have an OD
grinder.

Any info would be appreciated

Gunner pondering a nifty pistol designed to throw a string some
distance...report later G

About 25 years ago, I witnessed a demonstration of a Eutectic device for
applying powder coating via a specialized O/A torch.

While the emphasis of the demo was the application of an impact-resistant
powder, ISTR the demonstrator (a Eutectic salescritter named Tarpley)
stating that the device could also be used to apply plating powders.

From the names that you posted, you may have something similar.

If it is similar to the one that I saw demoed, the torch will have a fitting
for a canister (like a small HVLP spray gun's) about midway down its length
to take the powder. Used with a reducing (not illuminating) flame, the
powder is siphoned into the gas flow, melted in the flame, and the molten
"mist" sprayed onto the surface. (The one I saw demoed could be hand-held
but was intended to be mounted to a fixture in a lathe's toolholder for use
on a spinning object.)

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
I was asked to go through a recently deceased
fellows shop a couple
weeks ago by the surviving family member, and
have been catagorizing
and whatnot some of the Stuff. He was a retired
electrician/handyman/hobbyist and had a rather
eclectic mix of Stuff.

She told me I could take what I wanted..and that
to a Scrounger...was
pure music.

Among some of the goodies I schleped home today
(not counting the mint
Trans-Oceanic Royal D7000 and the Pentax ME
Super) was a rather
interesting tool box..designed to be wall
mounted...containing a wierd
looking O/A type torch and 7 bottles of some
sorts of metal powders,
along with various bottles of fluxes.

Unfortunately..the manuals and data cards (all
neatly in their proper
racks..are stuck together..so I may have to try
to steam them apart.

Im assuming this is for flame spraying of
various metal coatings?

Full bottle of

Cuprotec 10180

Borotec 10009

Nitec 10224

Bronzochrome 10186

Bronzochrome 10185 (half full)

Chrometec 10680 (only a little left)

about a half bottle of powder inside the box
itself..something
spilled.


What do I have, and how do I use it? It would be
nice to be able to
build up worn things such as shafts and so
forth. I do have an OD
grinder.

Any info would be appreciated

Gunner pondering a nifty pistol designed to
throw a string some
distance...report later G


Gunner, I think you may have a "Eutectic " brand
torch and powders for building up worn shafts. I
bought on a long time ago when I was Plant
Engineer at a brewery in a country that didn't
have much infrastructure. They also made one for
building up flat surfaces as well. The shafts were
chucked in an old lathe( the stuff is pretty
abrasive and preheated with just the flame to
about 400 deg F. Then the powder was applied by
the opening a valve on the gun. It reacted in the
flame and stuck to the shaft quite well. we had
one power that was a beauty for building up shafts
that ran in packed glands. It was hard as hell so
wore really well.
The flat surface build up gun worked in a similar
manner except that the powder was heated after it
was applied so that it flowed like a solder. It
to, worked well for some applications.

you might Google for the manufacturers name .
They are usually quite helpful. They make their
fortune by selling the powder. It was expensive
stuff!

Tom

I have to agree its probably a Eutetic -Castolin flame spray torch. I
used ot use one quite a bit many years ago. It was super to be able to
chuck up a shaft or say an armature from a electric motor etc in a
lathe, put it on low spindle speed, and after applying the masking
powder, to keep it from adhering to whrere you did not want it, start
flame spraying the mealic powders to suit the application and buikld
up those scars and gouges etc on the item, then turn it down to size.
I worked very well. I ueven used it to apply hard facing material to
hammers used to grind tobacco . Check out Eutetic-Castolin...
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Get it all working to your satisfaction, I will be sending stuff to coat!

On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 03:33:53 -0600, "RAM³"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
I was asked to go through a recently deceased fellows shop a couple
weeks ago by the surviving family member, and have been catagorizing
and whatnot some of the Stuff. He was a retired
electrician/handyman/hobbyist and had a rather eclectic mix of Stuff.

She told me I could take what I wanted..and that to a Scrounger...was
pure music.

Among some of the goodies I schleped home today (not counting the mint
Trans-Oceanic Royal D7000 and the Pentax ME Super) was a rather
interesting tool box..designed to be wall mounted...containing a wierd
looking O/A type torch and 7 bottles of some sorts of metal powders,
along with various bottles of fluxes.

Unfortunately..the manuals and data cards (all neatly in their proper
racks..are stuck together..so I may have to try to steam them apart.

Im assuming this is for flame spraying of various metal coatings?

Full bottle of

Cuprotec 10180

Borotec 10009

Nitec 10224

Bronzochrome 10186

Bronzochrome 10185 (half full)

Chrometec 10680 (only a little left)

about a half bottle of powder inside the box itself..something
spilled.


What do I have, and how do I use it? It would be nice to be able to
build up worn things such as shafts and so forth. I do have an OD
grinder.

Any info would be appreciated

Gunner pondering a nifty pistol designed to throw a string some
distance...report later G

About 25 years ago, I witnessed a demonstration of a Eutectic device for
applying powder coating via a specialized O/A torch.

While the emphasis of the demo was the application of an impact-resistant
powder, ISTR the demonstrator (a Eutectic salescritter named Tarpley)
stating that the device could also be used to apply plating powders.

From the names that you posted, you may have something similar.

If it is similar to the one that I saw demoed, the torch will have a fitting
for a canister (like a small HVLP spray gun's) about midway down its length
to take the powder. Used with a reducing (not illuminating) flame, the
powder is siphoned into the gas flow, melted in the flame, and the molten
"mist" sprayed onto the surface. (The one I saw demoed could be hand-held
but was intended to be mounted to a fixture in a lathe's toolholder for use
on a spinning object.)



Yup..the brand name on everything is Eutectic. I found the stuff on
Ebay..looks like the torch is a B model.

Based on the prices..looks like I scored pretty good.


Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:20:48 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:

Get it all working to your satisfaction, I will be sending stuff to coat!

There are several on Ebay at the moment.

Im still thinking about Ohio, even got out the maps. Hows the hunting?

Think we could tag team the buttheads?

EG

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Im still thinking about Ohio, even got out the maps. Hows the hunting?

Think we could tag team the buttheads?

EG

Gunner

20 minutes in any direction from Cleveland. (except North) Lots of friends
hunt waterfowl, deer and such. I hunt at the butcher shop, it seems there
is no season on my favorite critters...cows and pigs. Fishing is great,
walleye, smallies ect.

On the day of Sun, 05 Mar 2006 08:12:54 GMT...
Gunner
typed these letters:

Among some of the goodies I schleped home today (not counting the mint
Trans-Oceanic Royal D7000 and the Pentax ME Super) was a rather
interesting tool box..designed to be wall mounted...containing a wierd
looking O/A type torch and 7 bottles of some sorts of metal powders,
along with various bottles of fluxes.

I don't know about the other stuff but I do have that same
trans-ocenaic Royal D7000 radio and a Pentax Super ME camera around
here somewhere.

The radio is here...

http://www.electricgypsy.net/compute... e=1&anchor=2

According to Gunner :

Unfortunately..the manuals and data cards (all neatly in their proper
racks..are stuck together..so I may have to try to steam them apart.

The technique used by serious libraries to fix wet antique books
is to:

1) Freeze them in liquid nitrogen or dry ice (whichever you can
get, which will do a proper quick freeze, so the ice crystals
will separate the pages.

2) While keeping it cold, pull a good vacuum on it, so the ice
will sublime (go from solid to gas without becoming liquid
again.

To this, you would have to add a preliminary soaking, so there
would be water between the pages to form the ice.

Good Luck,
DoN.

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 05:37:38 GMT,
(Devonshire) wrote:

On the day of Sun, 05 Mar 2006 08:12:54 GMT...
Gunner
typed these letters:

Among some of the goodies I schleped home today (not counting the mint
Trans-Oceanic Royal D7000 and the Pentax ME Super) was a rather
interesting tool box..designed to be wall mounted...containing a wierd
looking O/A type torch and 7 bottles of some sorts of metal powders,
along with various bottles of fluxes.

I don't know about the other stuff but I do have that same
trans-ocenaic Royal D7000 radio and a Pentax Super ME camera around
here somewhere.

The radio is here...

http://www.electricgypsy.net/compute... e=1&anchor=2

Thats the one. (the link says 10 batts..its only got 9..8 are for
operation..one for the little flip out light next to the tuning dial.

Ive already discovered you need an external antenna for any band
besides FM. Which is rather odd. And the manual (came with the
original manual and ear piece) sorta glossed over it.

The ME works though the batteries need changing. Shutter was pretty
sticky, but it works fine now after 50 or so releases. I think..think
Ive got some Pentax screw mount lens in one of the camera bags

Ive a couple or 3 Canon A-1s that Ive been using for years..along with
a couple manual Canons..all of which have the Canon bayonet mount..but
remember scrounging some scew mounts years ago and getting adapters
for screw to Canon bayonet.

Oh..the Line-Gun is interesting. I believe it uses CO2 cartridge to
carry a string..Got lots of string spools, no cartridges. When you
cock it..and pull the trigger..a piston with a spike on the end slams
forward into the center of a holder and apparently pieces the ass end
of the CO2 cartridge..which is tied to the bobbin of string and
launches the entire CO2 cartridge. Seems like it would pinwheel
badly..but maybe the string acts as a tail...

In the same tool box was a ****LOAD of .22 blanks for nail guns and a
half ****load of .25 blanks for what I think is Hilti..

Now I got to scrounge a power activated nail gun....

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 06:30:30 +0000, (DoN.
Nichols) wrote:

According to Gunner :

Unfortunately..the manuals and data cards (all neatly in their proper
racks..are stuck together..so I may have to try to steam them apart.

The technique used by serious libraries to fix wet antique books
is to:

1) Freeze them in liquid nitrogen or dry ice (whichever you can
get, which will do a proper quick freeze, so the ice crystals
will separate the pages.

2) While keeping it cold, pull a good vacuum on it, so the ice
will sublime (go from solid to gas without becoming liquid
again.

To this, you would have to add a preliminary soaking, so there
would be water between the pages to form the ice.

Good Luck,
DoN.


SAVED!! Ive got a vaccum pump somewhere around here..no
container..but Ill think of something

Thanks!

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:38:56 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Ive already discovered you need an external antenna for any band
besides FM. Which is rather odd. And the manual (came with the
original manual and ear piece) sorta glossed over it.

Any "shortwave" radio needs an antenna -- but just a few feet of wire
often works surprisingly well.

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:38:56 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 05:37:38 GMT,
(Devonshire) wrote:

On the day of Sun, 05 Mar 2006 08:12:54 GMT...
Gunner
typed these letters:

Among some of the goodies I schleped home today (not counting the mint
Trans-Oceanic Royal D7000 and the Pentax ME Super) was a rather
interesting tool box..designed to be wall mounted...containing a wierd
looking O/A type torch and 7 bottles of some sorts of metal powders,
along with various bottles of fluxes.

I don't know about the other stuff but I do have that same
trans-ocenaic Royal D7000 radio and a Pentax Super ME camera around
here somewhere.

The radio is here...

http://www.electricgypsy.net/compute... e=1&anchor=2

Thats the one. (the link says 10 batts..its only got 9..8 are for
operation..one for the little flip out light next to the tuning dial.

Ive already discovered you need an external antenna for any band
besides FM. Which is rather odd. And the manual (came with the
original manual and ear piece) sorta glossed over it.

The ME works though the batteries need changing. Shutter was pretty
sticky, but it works fine now after 50 or so releases. I think..think
Ive got some Pentax screw mount lens in one of the camera bags

Ive a couple or 3 Canon A-1s that Ive been using for years..along with
a couple manual Canons..all of which have the Canon bayonet mount..but
remember scrounging some scew mounts years ago and getting adapters
for screw to Canon bayonet.

Oh..the Line-Gun is interesting. I believe it uses CO2 cartridge to
carry a string..Got lots of string spools, no cartridges. When you
cock it..and pull the trigger..a piston with a spike on the end slams
forward into the center of a holder and apparently pieces the ass end
of the CO2 cartridge..which is tied to the bobbin of string and
launches the entire CO2 cartridge. Seems like it would pinwheel
badly..but maybe the string acts as a tail...

In the same tool box was a ****LOAD of .22 blanks for nail guns and a
half ****load of .25 blanks for what I think is Hilti..

Now I got to scrounge a power activated nail gun....

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Morning Gunner
The "line-gun" is used to shoot/pull that bobbin string thru conduit.
The string is then used to pull a pull rope which,in turn, pulls in
the wires. It's best to pad the far side of the box into which your
conduit empties grin. That cartridge packs a real wallop.
Bob
rgentry_at_oz_dot_net
_AT_ = @, _dot_ = . to eMail

According to Gunner :

According to Gunner :

Unfortunately..the manuals and data cards (all neatly in their proper
racks..are stuck together..so I may have to try to steam them apart.

The technique used by serious libraries to fix wet antique books
is to:

1) Freeze them in liquid nitrogen or dry ice (whichever you can
get, which will do a proper quick freeze, so the ice crystals
will separate the pages.

2) While keeping it cold, pull a good vacuum on it, so the ice
will sublime (go from solid to gas without becoming liquid
again.

To this, you would have to add a preliminary soaking, so there
would be water between the pages to form the ice.

[ ... ]

SAVED!! Ive got a vaccum pump somewhere around here..no
container..but Ill think of something

Pick up a bell jar and plate from an eBay auction?

Let me know how it works for you. I've been told that it even
will separate a deck of soaked playing cards, but I've never tried it
yet. I've got a vacuum jar which I could use for it, if I got something
worth chasing down some liquid nitrogen for -- now that I don't work
where it is used daily. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:38:48 -0600, Don Foreman
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:38:56 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Ive already discovered you need an external antenna for any band
besides FM. Which is rather odd. And the manual (came with the
original manual and ear piece) sorta glossed over it.

Any "shortwave" radio needs an antenna -- but just a few feet of wire
often works surprisingly well.


This has a Huge telescoping antenna..the famous Magnet Wave or some
such. But it apparently has no connection to the LW/BC/SW band
portions of the radio

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Oh..the Line-Gun is interesting. I believe it
uses CO2 cartridge to
carry a string..Got lots of string spools, no
cartridges. When you
cock it..and pull the trigger..a piston with a
spike on the end slams
forward into the center of a holder and
apparently pieces the ass end
of the CO2 cartridge..which is tied to the
bobbin of string and
launches the entire CO2 cartridge. Seems like
it would pinwheel
badly..but maybe the string acts as a tail...

The CO2 powered "string gun" is used to get a
string through electrical conduits so that a pull
rope can be pulled in. This is then used to pull
the cables through.

I nearly got my head torn off by one of those
things when I was working for an electrician in a
holiday job as a kid. We ran out of CO2 while
working in a helium plant. On of the helpful
operators on the plant volunteered to supply gas
off the column to drive it. I was given a small
plastic funnel and was told to use it to catch the
ball of string at the other end. I don't know how
much pressure they applied, but it was enough to
take the end out of the funnel! If my head had
been over the end of that conduit it would have
had a piece of string right through it.

Tom

Gunner wrote:
Oh..the Line-Gun is interesting. I believe it uses CO2 cartridge to
carry a string..Got lots of string spools, no cartridges. When you
cock it..and pull the trigger..a piston with a spike on the end slams
forward into the center of a holder and apparently pieces the ass end
of the CO2 cartridge..which is tied to the bobbin of string and
launches the entire CO2 cartridge. Seems like it would pinwheel
badly..but maybe the string acts as a tail...

Gunner

I believe those were used for puting a pulling line in conduit.
At least I observed that being done at the Frankford Arsnell (sp?) in
Philly back in the dim dark past. I was working there with an
acoustic target system and the folks puled our target wires through
about several hundred feet of conduit with 4 or 5 elbows in it with
a device that sounds just like that. C O2 cartridge and a string. :-)
...lew...

Cool - I can lay down a 300' tube from the house to a yard light and jet fire
the line down the tube. Beats dropping a weight and pulling up the tube......
walking it down the line. A bit dangerous - but possible.
Building an interface gun is a bit of work - but done before on a pistol crossbow.
That was in walnut. :-)

Martin

Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH & Endowment Member
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder



Lew Hartswick wrote:
Gunner wrote:

Oh..the Line-Gun is interesting. I believe it uses CO2 cartridge to
carry a string..Got lots of string spools, no cartridges. When you
cock it..and pull the trigger..a piston with a spike on the end slams
forward into the center of a holder and apparently pieces the ass end
of the CO2 cartridge..which is tied to the bobbin of string and
launches the entire CO2 cartridge. Seems like it would pinwheel
badly..but maybe the string acts as a tail...

Gunner

I believe those were used for puting a pulling line in conduit.
At least I observed that being done at the Frankford Arsnell (sp?) in
Philly back in the dim dark past. I was working there with an
acoustic target system and the folks puled our target wires through
about several hundred feet of conduit with 4 or 5 elbows in it with
a device that sounds just like that. C O2 cartridge and a string. :-)
...lew...

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:51:11 -0600, "Martin H. Eastburn"
wrote:

Cool - I can lay down a 300' tube from the house to a yard light and jet fire
the line down the tube. Beats dropping a weight and pulling up the tube......
walking it down the line. A bit dangerous - but possible.
I've done 500 feet of 4" duct quite often with poly twine tied to a
shaped sponge between disks (5" sponge, 3 1/2" plastic disks) held
together by a wire looped outside the disks. Use a shop vac to pull it
through along with all the field mice that took refuge in the duct
sections while they were laying in the field before being assembled
and buried in the trench.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:35:42 -0800, Bob Gentry wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:38:56 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 05:37:38 GMT,
(Devonshire) wrote:

On the day of Sun, 05 Mar 2006 08:12:54 GMT...
Gunner
typed these letters:

Among some of the goodies I schleped home today (not counting the mint
Trans-Oceanic Royal D7000 and the Pentax ME Super) was a rather
interesting tool box..designed to be wall mounted...containing a wierd
looking O/A type torch and 7 bottles of some sorts of metal powders,
along with various bottles of fluxes.

I don't know about the other stuff but I do have that same
trans-ocenaic Royal D7000 radio and a Pentax Super ME camera around
here somewhere.

The radio is here...

http://www.electricgypsy.net/compute... e=1&anchor=2

Thats the one. (the link says 10 batts..its only got 9..8 are for
operation..one for the little flip out light next to the tuning dial.

Ive already discovered you need an external antenna for any band
besides FM. Which is rather odd. And the manual (came with the
original manual and ear piece) sorta glossed over it.

The ME works though the batteries need changing. Shutter was pretty
sticky, but it works fine now after 50 or so releases. I think..think
Ive got some Pentax screw mount lens in one of the camera bags

Ive a couple or 3 Canon A-1s that Ive been using for years..along with
a couple manual Canons..all of which have the Canon bayonet mount..but
remember scrounging some scew mounts years ago and getting adapters
for screw to Canon bayonet.

Oh..the Line-Gun is interesting. I believe it uses CO2 cartridge to
carry a string..Got lots of string spools, no cartridges. When you
cock it..and pull the trigger..a piston with a spike on the end slams
forward into the center of a holder and apparently pieces the ass end
of the CO2 cartridge..which is tied to the bobbin of string and
launches the entire CO2 cartridge. Seems like it would pinwheel
badly..but maybe the string acts as a tail...

In the same tool box was a ****LOAD of .22 blanks for nail guns and a
half ****load of .25 blanks for what I think is Hilti..

Now I got to scrounge a power activated nail gun....

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Morning Gunner
The "line-gun" is used to shoot/pull that bobbin string thru conduit.
The string is then used to pull a pull rope which,in turn, pulls in
the wires. It's best to pad the far side of the box into which your
conduit empties grin. That cartridge packs a real wallop.
Bob
rgentry_at_oz_dot_net
_AT_ = @, _dot_ = . to eMail

Cool! 3/4" and up I assume? So you just hold the muzzle inside the
conduit and squeeze her off?

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

I can see it working on long runs - but not on 90 degree conduits...

Martin
Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH & Endowment Member
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder



Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:35:42 -0800, Bob Gentry wrote:


On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:38:56 GMT, Gunner
wrote:


On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 05:37:38 GMT,
(Devonshire) wrote:


On the day of Sun, 05 Mar 2006 08:12:54 GMT...
Gunner
typed these letters:


Among some of the goodies I schleped home today (not counting the mint
Trans-Oceanic Royal D7000 and the Pentax ME Super) was a rather
interesting tool box..designed to be wall mounted...containing a wierd
looking O/A type torch and 7 bottles of some sorts of metal powders,
along with various bottles of fluxes.

I don't know about the other stuff but I do have that same
trans-ocenaic Royal D7000 radio and a Pentax Super ME camera around
here somewhere.

The radio is here...

http://www.electricgypsy.net/compute... e=1&anchor=2

Thats the one. (the link says 10 batts..its only got 9..8 are for
operation..one for the little flip out light next to the tuning dial.

Ive already discovered you need an external antenna for any band
besides FM. Which is rather odd. And the manual (came with the
original manual and ear piece) sorta glossed over it.

The ME works though the batteries need changing. Shutter was pretty
sticky, but it works fine now after 50 or so releases. I think..think
Ive got some Pentax screw mount lens in one of the camera bags

Ive a couple or 3 Canon A-1s that Ive been using for years..along with
a couple manual Canons..all of which have the Canon bayonet mount..but
remember scrounging some scew mounts years ago and getting adapters
for screw to Canon bayonet.

Oh..the Line-Gun is interesting. I believe it uses CO2 cartridge to
carry a string..Got lots of string spools, no cartridges. When you
cock it..and pull the trigger..a piston with a spike on the end slams
forward into the center of a holder and apparently pieces the ass end
of the CO2 cartridge..which is tied to the bobbin of string and
launches the entire CO2 cartridge. Seems like it would pinwheel
badly..but maybe the string acts as a tail...

In the same tool box was a ****LOAD of .22 blanks for nail guns and a
half ****load of .25 blanks for what I think is Hilti..

Now I got to scrounge a power activated nail gun....

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Morning Gunner
The "line-gun" is used to shoot/pull that bobbin string thru conduit.
The string is then used to pull a pull rope which,in turn, pulls in
the wires. It's best to pad the far side of the box into which your
conduit empties grin. That cartridge packs a real wallop.
Bob
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Cool! 3/4" and up I assume? So you just hold the muzzle inside the
conduit and squeeze her off?

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

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I have a Diamond D-180 nail gun that uses 25 cal blanks for driving nails
into concrete or mild steel. One mean mother! DO NOT TRY to put a nail
into an engine block with a 325 load Jack made me do it That sucker
bounced around the shop about 5 times before it stopped. (the nail .. not
the engine block) On mine the loads go from 1-9 125 being the wimps and 925
being the armor piercing break your wrist load. My kit only goes to 325 ..
probably why I am still here LOL.
It is way cool to put 1/4 20 studs in the concrete or nail 2X6's to the wall
or 1/8" steel to concrete. You just can't nail the heads onto your 460
though...
Glenn
(Jim is gone now .. but I just bought a half gallon of his brother )
"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 05:37:38 GMT,
(Devonshire) wrote:

On the day of Sun, 05 Mar 2006 08:12:54 GMT...
Gunner
typed these letters:

Among some of the goodies I schleped home today (not counting the mint
Trans-Oceanic Royal D7000 and the Pentax ME Super) was a rather
interesting tool box..designed to be wall mounted...containing a wierd
looking O/A type torch and 7 bottles of some sorts of metal powders,
along with various bottles of fluxes.

I don't know about the other stuff but I do have that same
trans-ocenaic Royal D7000 radio and a Pentax Super ME camera around
here somewhere.

The radio is here...

http://www.electricgypsy.net/compute... e=1&anchor=2

Thats the one. (the link says 10 batts..its only got 9..8 are for
operation..one for the little flip out light next to the tuning dial.

Ive already discovered you need an external antenna for any band
besides FM. Which is rather odd. And the manual (came with the
original manual and ear piece) sorta glossed over it.

The ME works though the batteries need changing. Shutter was pretty
sticky, but it works fine now after 50 or so releases. I think..think
Ive got some Pentax screw mount lens in one of the camera bags

Ive a couple or 3 Canon A-1s that Ive been using for years..along with
a couple manual Canons..all of which have the Canon bayonet mount..but
remember scrounging some scew mounts years ago and getting adapters
for screw to Canon bayonet.

Oh..the Line-Gun is interesting. I believe it uses CO2 cartridge to
carry a string..Got lots of string spools, no cartridges. When you
cock it..and pull the trigger..a piston with a spike on the end slams
forward into the center of a holder and apparently pieces the ass end
of the CO2 cartridge..which is tied to the bobbin of string and
launches the entire CO2 cartridge. Seems like it would pinwheel
badly..but maybe the string acts as a tail...

In the same tool box was a ****LOAD of .22 blanks for nail guns and a
half ****load of .25 blanks for what I think is Hilti..

Now I got to scrounge a power activated nail gun....

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 03:22:44 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

snip

Oh..the Line-Gun is interesting. I believe it uses CO2 cartridge to
carry a string..Got lots of string spools, no cartridges. When you
cock it..and pull the trigger..a piston with a spike on the end slams
forward into the center of a holder and apparently pieces the ass end
of the CO2 cartridge..which is tied to the bobbin of string and
launches the entire CO2 cartridge. Seems like it would pinwheel
badly..but maybe the string acts as a tail...

In the same tool box was a ****LOAD of .22 blanks for nail guns and a
half ****load of .25 blanks for what I think is Hilti..

Now I got to scrounge a power activated nail gun....

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Morning Gunner
The "line-gun" is used to shoot/pull that bobbin string thru conduit.
The string is then used to pull a pull rope which,in turn, pulls in
the wires. It's best to pad the far side of the box into which your
conduit empties grin. That cartridge packs a real wallop.
Bob
rgentry_at_oz_dot_net
_AT_ = @, _dot_ = . to eMail

Cool! 3/4" and up I assume? So you just hold the muzzle inside the
conduit and squeeze her off?

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Basically correct. Prep the far end to receive the _missile_, Arrange
the line pack (bobbin and string) so it can pay out the string REAL
fast, make sure the line is attached to the cartridge properly, aim
and shoot grin.
Jet Line made a line of these about 25 years ago. In recent years the
safety issue of this method has caused a change in the way the pull
string is introduced into the conduit. Now days a vacuum is placed on
one end of the conduit and a line pack, similar to the bobbin, with a
properly sized conduit seal is pulled thru the pipe laying the string
behind it. A whole lot safer, and a side benefit of cleaning the
conduit in the process.
Bob
rgentry_at_oz_dot_net
_AT_ = @, _dot_ = . to eMail

"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote:

I can see it working on long runs - but not on 90 degree conduits...

Martin
Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH & Endowment Member
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder

Why not? Normal 90 degree sweeps in conduit are at a fairly large radius
so you can pull the cable through. The front of the CO2 cartridge is
rounded so it should readily follow the curve.

Pete C.

Glenn wrote:

I have a Diamond D-180 nail gun that uses 25 cal blanks for driving nails
into concrete or mild steel. One mean mother! DO NOT TRY to put a nail
into an engine block with a 325 load Jack made me do it That sucker
bounced around the shop about 5 times before it stopped. (the nail .. not
the engine block) On mine the loads go from 1-9 125 being the wimps and 925
being the armor piercing break your wrist load. My kit only goes to 325 ..
probably why I am still here LOL.
It is way cool to put 1/4 20 studs in the concrete or nail 2X6's to the wall
or 1/8" steel to concrete. You just can't nail the heads onto your 460
though...
Glenn
(Jim is gone now .. but I just bought a half gallon of his brother )
"Gunner" wrote in message
...

I love my Hilti DX36M, particularly the variable pressure feature so you
can use the red loads for most everything.

Pete C.

If you have wide circle corners - but not the squares that are wall to ceiling or around a pipe...
You would have to know your layout before blindly doing it.

It might be strong enough to blow the corner off the end of a line.

Martin
Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH & Endowment Member
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder


Pete C. wrote:
"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote:

I can see it working on long runs - but not on 90 degree conduits...

Martin
Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH & Endowment Member
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder


Why not? Normal 90 degree sweeps in conduit are at a fairly large radius
so you can pull the cable through. The front of the CO2 cartridge is
rounded so it should readily follow the curve.

Pete C.

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:52:44 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:38:48 -0600, Don Foreman
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:38:56 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Ive already discovered you need an external antenna for any band
besides FM. Which is rather odd. And the manual (came with the
original manual and ear piece) sorta glossed over it.

Any "shortwave" radio needs an antenna -- but just a few feet of wire
often works surprisingly well.


This has a Huge telescoping antenna..the famous Magnet Wave or some
such. But it apparently has no connection to the LW/BC/SW band
portions of the radio

Gunner

The older Trans-Oceanics ('60's vintage) had a wire from the whip
that could be connected to the LW/BC/SW antenna terminal.

Just stick a random bit of wire on the ant terminal. You might be
surprised. It won't work as well as a long, high outdoor wire, but
I'll bet it'll get ya some SW and BCDX. It won't work inside a metal
enclosure like an RV, of course.

I can pick up WWV and CHU on my Yaesu tranceiver with just a 3 foot
cliplead -- in the basement! The TransOceanics were pretty good SWL
radios. They lack a lot of features that a good communications
receiver might have, but they had tuned RF stages with pretty good
sensitivity.

The black and silver Trans-Oceanic - yep - brother bought one overseas and
it worked great. I bought a Panasonic 5 band and it used a pin jack on the side.

Martin
Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH & Endowment Member
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder


Don Foreman wrote:
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:52:44 GMT, Gunner
wrote:


On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:38:48 -0600, Don Foreman
wrote:


On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:38:56 GMT, Gunner
wrote:


Ive already discovered you need an external antenna for any band
besides FM. Which is rather odd. And the manual (came with the
original manual and ear piece) sorta glossed over it.

Any "shortwave" radio needs an antenna -- but just a few feet of wire
often works surprisingly well.


This has a Huge telescoping antenna..the famous Magnet Wave or some
such. But it apparently has no connection to the LW/BC/SW band
portions of the radio

Gunner


The older Trans-Oceanics ('60's vintage) had a wire from the whip
that could be connected to the LW/BC/SW antenna terminal.

Just stick a random bit of wire on the ant terminal. You might be
surprised. It won't work as well as a long, high outdoor wire, but
I'll bet it'll get ya some SW and BCDX. It won't work inside a metal
enclosure like an RV, of course.

I can pick up WWV and CHU on my Yaesu tranceiver with just a 3 foot
cliplead -- in the basement! The TransOceanics were pretty good SWL
radios. They lack a lot of features that a good communications
receiver might have, but they had tuned RF stages with pretty good
sensitivity.

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On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:16:11 -0800, Bob Gentry wrote:

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 03:22:44 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

snip

Oh..the Line-Gun is interesting. I believe it uses CO2 cartridge to
carry a string..Got lots of string spools, no cartridges. When you
cock it..and pull the trigger..a piston with a spike on the end slams
forward into the center of a holder and apparently pieces the ass end
of the CO2 cartridge..which is tied to the bobbin of string and
launches the entire CO2 cartridge. Seems like it would pinwheel
badly..but maybe the string acts as a tail...

In the same tool box was a ****LOAD of .22 blanks for nail guns and a
half ****load of .25 blanks for what I think is Hilti..

Now I got to scrounge a power activated nail gun....

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Morning Gunner
The "line-gun" is used to shoot/pull that bobbin string thru conduit.
The string is then used to pull a pull rope which,in turn, pulls in
the wires. It's best to pad the far side of the box into which your
conduit empties grin. That cartridge packs a real wallop.
Bob
rgentry_at_oz_dot_net
_AT_ = @, _dot_ = . to eMail

Cool! 3/4" and up I assume? So you just hold the muzzle inside the
conduit and squeeze her off?

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Basically correct. Prep the far end to receive the _missile_, Arrange
the line pack (bobbin and string) so it can pay out the string REAL
fast, make sure the line is attached to the cartridge properly, aim
and shoot grin.
Jet Line made a line of these about 25 years ago. In recent years the
safety issue of this method has caused a change in the way the pull
string is introduced into the conduit. Now days a vacuum is placed on
one end of the conduit and a line pack, similar to the bobbin, with a
properly sized conduit seal is pulled thru the pipe laying the string
behind it. A whole lot safer, and a side benefit of cleaning the
conduit in the process.
Bob
rgentry_at_oz_dot_net
_AT_ = @, _dot_ = . to eMail


Vacuum? That sucks. Where is the Way Cool! factor?

G

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3