I would like to have a tig machine.

Does anyone have any comments on the Idealarc 300/300? What about a price
for a used one that is ten years old?

Thanks much

"knowone" wrote in message
.net...
I would like to have a tig machine.

Does anyone have any comments on the Idealarc 300/300? What about a price
for a used one that is ten years old?

Thanks much


I've owned one since the mid 80's, the "new" design. Bought it new.
I'm not an accomplished weldor, so it's hard to judge the machine from the
position of a skilled person, but I can't complain about mine in any way.
I'd buy it again under like circumstances, in other words. Value? Dunno.
I guess it depends on condition. How's it equipped? How much they asking?

Harold

Harold and Susan Vordos wrote:

"knowone" wrote in message
k.net...


Thanks for the quick reply Harold.

This one has the water cooled torch and regulator. I don't know if it has
the water-cooler, etc. At this point, I don't know anything else as far


as


how it is equipped.

I don't know how to tig but I really want to learn to weld alum and ss.

I don't know what the person is asking. What do you think would be a fair
price?



I have no clue about resale values, but I can't help but think that with the
newer solid state devices on the market, the older transformer machines
don't have nearly as much appeal, although I can't help but think that they
are likely more reliable.

I run my water to waste, so I don't have a cooler. That works well if you
can dispose of the water easily. I installed a dedicated drain system when
I built my shop, so in my case it works fine. I don't think I'd want an
air cooled torch----to bulky and wouldn't stay cool enough if you had lots
of work to do.

I hate to go out on a limb and make any predictions as to value, but if I
was looking at one and it wasn't trashed, I think I'd be willing to pay up
to $600 for it. Dunno. Maybe someone with experience will chime in. I
just checked the invoice for mine, came to about $2,700 ready to go-----base
price of the machine was $1,715, but I bought a bottle of gas,
undercarriage, torch, everything needed to get started TIG welding. Invoice
is dated 9-11-86. Mine has the capacitors that lower current demand.


I paid about $1300 for a Lincoln square-wave TIG 300, which is a pretty
fantastic
machine. I got a new regulator/flowmeter, a good water-cooled torch and a
cooler in good working condition with the machine, as well as a HUGE steel
cart on wheels. I am VERY impressed with this machine, and it sure can weld
aluminum. I'm still in the learning stage on the Al, but have done some
great work
on steel, and a little stainless. I got the hang of the switchover from
stick to TIG
on steel in a half hour, and may NEVER stick weld again. (I have real
problems
with the flux fumes on stick, even working outdoors. I can TIG indoors
and nobody
else in the house even knows I'm welding!)

Jon

Thanks for the quick reply Harold.

This one has the water cooled torch and regulator. I don't know if it has
the water-cooler, etc. At this point, I don't know anything else as far as
how it is equipped.

I don't know how to tig but I really want to learn to weld alum and ss.

I don't know what the person is asking. What do you think would be a fair
price?

k.



"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
...

"knowone" wrote in message
.net...
I would like to have a tig machine.

Does anyone have any comments on the Idealarc 300/300? What about a
price
for a used one that is ten years old?

Thanks much


I've owned one since the mid 80's, the "new" design. Bought it new.
I'm not an accomplished weldor, so it's hard to judge the machine from the
position of a skilled person, but I can't complain about mine in any way.
I'd buy it again under like circumstances, in other words. Value?
Dunno.
I guess it depends on condition. How's it equipped? How much they
asking?

Harold

I paid $399 for mine but it had no torch, or foot pedal. Its a good machine
but is big and heavy. heres a link
www.motherearthrecycling.net
then click on "shop tour" and you will see a picture. I use my MIG most of
the time and Stick weld more than tig.
"knowone" wrote in message
.net...
Thanks for the quick reply Harold.

This one has the water cooled torch and regulator. I don't know if it has
the water-cooler, etc. At this point, I don't know anything else as far
as how it is equipped.

I don't know how to tig but I really want to learn to weld alum and ss.

I don't know what the person is asking. What do you think would be a fair
price?

k.



"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
...

"knowone" wrote in message
.net...
I would like to have a tig machine.

Does anyone have any comments on the Idealarc 300/300? What about a
price
for a used one that is ten years old?

Thanks much


I've owned one since the mid 80's, the "new" design. Bought it new.
I'm not an accomplished weldor, so it's hard to judge the machine from
the
position of a skilled person, but I can't complain about mine in any way.
I'd buy it again under like circumstances, in other words. Value?
Dunno.
I guess it depends on condition. How's it equipped? How much they
asking?

Harold

"knowone" wrote in message
.net...
Thanks for the quick reply Harold.

This one has the water cooled torch and regulator. I don't know if it has
the water-cooler, etc. At this point, I don't know anything else as far
as
how it is equipped.

I don't know how to tig but I really want to learn to weld alum and ss.

I don't know what the person is asking. What do you think would be a fair
price?

I have no clue about resale values, but I can't help but think that with the
newer solid state devices on the market, the older transformer machines
don't have nearly as much appeal, although I can't help but think that they
are likely more reliable.

I run my water to waste, so I don't have a cooler. That works well if you
can dispose of the water easily. I installed a dedicated drain system when
I built my shop, so in my case it works fine. I don't think I'd want an
air cooled torch----to bulky and wouldn't stay cool enough if you had lots
of work to do.

I hate to go out on a limb and make any predictions as to value, but if I
was looking at one and it wasn't trashed, I think I'd be willing to pay up
to $600 for it. Dunno. Maybe someone with experience will chime in. I
just checked the invoice for mine, came to about $2,700 ready to go-----base
price of the machine was $1,715, but I bought a bottle of gas,
undercarriage, torch, everything needed to get started TIG welding. Invoice
is dated 9-11-86. Mine has the capacitors that lower current demand.

Hope some of this helps. I think you still need to hear from someone with
brains.

Harold

Nice page and nice picture, Wayne.

I have a mig with spoolgun and stick, too. Really want to try tig if the
guy doesn't want too much. Is the water-cooler/pump inside the machine?

k
"wayne mak" wrote in message
...
I paid $399 for mine but it had no torch, or foot pedal. Its a good machine
but is big and heavy. heres a link
www.motherearthrecycling.net
then click on "shop tour" and you will see a picture. I use my MIG most of
the time and Stick weld more than tig.
"knowone" wrote in message
.net...
Thanks for the quick reply Harold.

This one has the water cooled torch and regulator. I don't know if it
has the water-cooler, etc. At this point, I don't know anything else as
far as how it is equipped.

I don't know how to tig but I really want to learn to weld alum and ss.

I don't know what the person is asking. What do you think would be a
fair price?

k.



"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
...

"knowone" wrote in message
.net...
I would like to have a tig machine.

Does anyone have any comments on the Idealarc 300/300? What about a
price
for a used one that is ten years old?

Thanks much


I've owned one since the mid 80's, the "new" design. Bought it new.
I'm not an accomplished weldor, so it's hard to judge the machine from
the
position of a skilled person, but I can't complain about mine in any
way.
I'd buy it again under like circumstances, in other words. Value?
Dunno.
I guess it depends on condition. How's it equipped? How much they
asking?

Harold

Your brains are better than mine, Harold. I know absolutely nothing about
tig machines and the value of an older one.
So, your info and experience helps greatly.

Thanks


"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
...

"knowone" wrote in message
.net...
Thanks for the quick reply Harold.

This one has the water cooled torch and regulator. I don't know if it
has
the water-cooler, etc. At this point, I don't know anything else as far
as
how it is equipped.

I don't know how to tig but I really want to learn to weld alum and ss.

I don't know what the person is asking. What do you think would be a
fair
price?

I have no clue about resale values, but I can't help but think that with
the
newer solid state devices on the market, the older transformer machines
don't have nearly as much appeal, although I can't help but think that
they
are likely more reliable.

I run my water to waste, so I don't have a cooler. That works well if you
can dispose of the water easily. I installed a dedicated drain system
when
I built my shop, so in my case it works fine. I don't think I'd want an
air cooled torch----to bulky and wouldn't stay cool enough if you had lots
of work to do.

I hate to go out on a limb and make any predictions as to value, but if I
was looking at one and it wasn't trashed, I think I'd be willing to pay
up
to $600 for it. Dunno. Maybe someone with experience will chime in. I
just checked the invoice for mine, came to about $2,700 ready to
go-----base
price of the machine was $1,715, but I bought a bottle of gas,
undercarriage, torch, everything needed to get started TIG welding.
Invoice
is dated 9-11-86. Mine has the capacitors that lower current demand.

Hope some of this helps. I think you still need to hear from someone
with
brains.

Harold

Sounds good Jon.

This is not near the machine that you have though. That sounds to be a good
price for the Squarewave although, I still don't really know prices for tig
machines.

I have soldered and brazed all of my life and hope learning tig will be
easier for me.

Say, Jon, have you thought of pumping air into your helmet for stick? You
could even rig up a small muffin fan in it to create pressure to keep out
fumes

What do you find difficult, if anything, about tig'ing aluminum?

Thanks for your help.

k


"Jon Elson" wrote in message
...


Harold and Susan Vordos wrote:

"knowone" wrote in message
nk.net...

Thanks for the quick reply Harold.

This one has the water cooled torch and regulator. I don't know if it
has
the water-cooler, etc. At this point, I don't know anything else as far

as

how it is equipped.

I don't know how to tig but I really want to learn to weld alum and ss.

I don't know what the person is asking. What do you think would be a
fair
price?


I have no clue about resale values, but I can't help but think that with
the
newer solid state devices on the market, the older transformer machines
don't have nearly as much appeal, although I can't help but think that
they
are likely more reliable.

I run my water to waste, so I don't have a cooler. That works well if you
can dispose of the water easily. I installed a dedicated drain system
when
I built my shop, so in my case it works fine. I don't think I'd want an
air cooled torch----to bulky and wouldn't stay cool enough if you had lots
of work to do.

I hate to go out on a limb and make any predictions as to value, but if I
was looking at one and it wasn't trashed, I think I'd be willing to pay
up
to $600 for it. Dunno. Maybe someone with experience will chime in. I
just checked the invoice for mine, came to about $2,700 ready to
go-----base
price of the machine was $1,715, but I bought a bottle of gas,
undercarriage, torch, everything needed to get started TIG welding.
Invoice
is dated 9-11-86. Mine has the capacitors that lower current demand.

I paid about $1300 for a Lincoln square-wave TIG 300, which is a pretty
fantastic
machine. I got a new regulator/flowmeter, a good water-cooled torch and a
cooler in good working condition with the machine, as well as a HUGE steel
cart on wheels. I am VERY impressed with this machine, and it sure can
weld
aluminum. I'm still in the learning stage on the Al, but have done some
great work
on steel, and a little stainless. I got the hang of the switchover from
stick to TIG
on steel in a half hour, and may NEVER stick weld again. (I have real
problems
with the flux fumes on stick, even working outdoors. I can TIG indoors
and nobody
else in the house even knows I'm welding!)

Jon

"knowone" wrote in message
.net...
I would like to have a tig machine.

Does anyone have any comments on the Idealarc 300/300? What about a price
for a used one that is ten years old?

Thanks much




If ABSOLUTELY everything is there, and in very good shape, $1,000 used for
EVERYTHING. Torches, cooler, regulator, tungstens, consumables, lots of
stuff.

Just the machine without all the stuff, $600 would be reasonable. First,
ask what he wants. He might want three. You can counteroffer, but a ten
year old machine that needs things will get you right up there in cost
quickly.

The 300/300 is bulletproof. Heavy. Reliable. Easy to get serviced. A
shop machine that is best left in one place. If you need to roll it around,
put heavy casters on it and watch out for any slopes or uneven surfaces.

Steve

"Steve B" wrote in message
news:%ZINf.255$mw5.169@fed1read12...

"knowone" wrote in message
.net...
I would like to have a tig machine.

Does anyone have any comments on the Idealarc 300/300? What about a
price for a used one that is ten years old?

Thanks much




If ABSOLUTELY everything is there, and in very good shape, $1,000 used for
EVERYTHING. Torches, cooler, regulator, tungstens, consumables, lots of
stuff.

Just the machine without all the stuff, $600 would be reasonable. First,
ask what he wants. He might want three. You can counteroffer, but a ten
year old machine that needs things will get you right up there in cost
quickly.

The 300/300 is bulletproof. Heavy. Reliable. Easy to get serviced. A
shop machine that is best left in one place. If you need to roll it
around, put heavy casters on it and watch out for any slopes or uneven
surfaces.

Steve

DOH. Never mind. I was thinking of another machine all together. Check
ebay to see what used is going for. You will be surprised.

Steve

I hate to change in mid-stream but someone just told me about an Esab
DTA-250UM with torch and cooler for $500.00

Input on this PLEASE. What size aluminum fillet flat will this beast weld?
I think 3/16 flat.

Again, thanks


"knowone" wrote in message
.net...
I would like to have a tig machine.

Does anyone have any comments on the Idealarc 300/300? What about a price
for a used one that is ten years old?

Thanks much

knowone wrote:

Sounds good Jon.

This is not near the machine that you have though. That sounds to be a good
price for the Squarewave although, I still don't really know prices for tig
machines.

I have soldered and brazed all of my life and hope learning tig will be
easier for me.


Easier than soldering and brazing? I doubt it. Soldering and brazing is
done with a joining material that melts at a lower temp than the parent
metal, making it much easier, in one respect. Unless your temp gets totally
away from you, the workpieces won't drip on the floor. When welding, you
are joining approximately homogeneous materials, so getting the molten
area too large guarantees that pieces of your workpiece will drip on the
floor!

Say, Jon, have you thought of pumping air into your helmet for stick? You
could even rig up a small muffin fan in it to create pressure to keep out
fumes

What do you find difficult, if anything, about tig'ing aluminum?


With steel, you can read the temperature, even through the hood, by the
color
and/or the brightness of the weld puddle. Too yellow and it is about to
fall
through. With aluminum, you don't get any color at all, just a change in
the surface finish as it goes from solid to liquid. If the puddle gets
too big,
it goes blop on the floor.

The TIG electrode runs REALLY hot with aluminum, due to the reverse
polarity part of the cycle. It lights up like a several thousand watt
arc lamp,
which it is, of course. Something I've found to help is to position the
torch
so the TIG cup shields the direct light from the electrode. Then, the
electrode
is lighting up the workpiece, but not shining in your eyes. That gives you
good view of the surface of the metal. I have to get up REALLY close to the
weld area to see what I'm doing. Probably practice will help, there. I
may also
have some mis-marked alloys that are SUPPOSED to be weldable, but the welds
crack as they cool, right along the weld. I suspect these are not the
weldable
alloys they are supposed to be. I was getting some really nice-looking
welds
on them, but then they cracked. I'm waiting for a serious project in
Aluminum
to come up, and then I'll probably buy some traceable alloy to be sure
it really
can be welded. I've been practicing on scrap, mostly. I did get one
piece that
welded beautifully, and I could bend it 180 degrees with only modest
cracking
(which many aluminum alloys won't take even without the welding.)

Jon

knowone wrote:

I hate to change in mid-stream but someone just told me about an Esab
DTA-250UM with torch and cooler for $500.00

Input on this PLEASE. What size aluminum fillet flat will this beast weld?
I think 3/16 flat.



Make sure it does AC. Many of the Esabs (and other TIGs) are DC only, and
require 3-phase power.

Jon

No, what I said was that I have been soldering all my life and I hope that I
can learn tig easier because of it. I never thought tig welding would be
easier than soldering.

I will remember the tips that you mentioned. I am anxious to get a machine
and start learning.

I wonder if there is an another medium besides Ebay for used
equipment/welders, that has a lot of volume.

Thanks.

k.



"Jon Elson" wrote in message
...


knowone wrote:

Sounds good Jon.

This is not near the machine that you have though. That sounds to be a
good price for the Squarewave although, I still don't really know prices
for tig machines.

I have soldered and brazed all of my life and hope learning tig will be
easier for me.

Easier than soldering and brazing? I doubt it. Soldering and brazing is
done with a joining material that melts at a lower temp than the parent
metal, making it much easier, in one respect. Unless your temp gets
totally
away from you, the workpieces won't drip on the floor. When welding, you
are joining approximately homogeneous materials, so getting the molten
area too large guarantees that pieces of your workpiece will drip on the
floor!

Say, Jon, have you thought of pumping air into your helmet for stick? You
could even rig up a small muffin fan in it to create pressure to keep out
fumes

What do you find difficult, if anything, about tig'ing aluminum?

With steel, you can read the temperature, even through the hood, by the
color
and/or the brightness of the weld puddle. Too yellow and it is about to
fall
through. With aluminum, you don't get any color at all, just a change in
the surface finish as it goes from solid to liquid. If the puddle gets
too big,
it goes blop on the floor.

The TIG electrode runs REALLY hot with aluminum, due to the reverse
polarity part of the cycle. It lights up like a several thousand watt arc
lamp,
which it is, of course. Something I've found to help is to position the
torch
so the TIG cup shields the direct light from the electrode. Then, the
electrode
is lighting up the workpiece, but not shining in your eyes. That gives
you
good view of the surface of the metal. I have to get up REALLY close to
the
weld area to see what I'm doing. Probably practice will help, there. I
may also
have some mis-marked alloys that are SUPPOSED to be weldable, but the
welds
crack as they cool, right along the weld. I suspect these are not the
weldable
alloys they are supposed to be. I was getting some really nice-looking
welds
on them, but then they cracked. I'm waiting for a serious project in
Aluminum
to come up, and then I'll probably buy some traceable alloy to be sure it
really
can be welded. I've been practicing on scrap, mostly. I did get one
piece that
welded beautifully, and I could bend it 180 degrees with only modest
cracking
(which many aluminum alloys won't take even without the welding.)

Jon

Jon,

If it is a.c., does this sound like a good deal in spite of the fact
(verified) that one cannot get parts for it any longer?

I don't like going from a potential of 300 amps to 250 amps but I want a tig
machine!

k



"Jon Elson" wrote in message
...


knowone wrote:

I hate to change in mid-stream but someone just told me about an Esab
DTA-250UM with torch and cooler for $500.00

Input on this PLEASE. What size aluminum fillet flat will this beast
weld? I think 3/16 flat.


Make sure it does AC. Many of the Esabs (and other TIGs) are DC only, and
require 3-phase power.

Jon

knowone wrote:
No, what I said was that I have been soldering all my life and I hope that I
can learn tig easier because of it. I never thought tig welding would be
easier than soldering.

Hmm, I really don't think so. the way the whole process is
done, it is not really similar. I think stick welding may
be a lot closer to the TIG scheme than soldering or brazing,
because you ARE dealing with melting the parent metal.

I am a VERY expert solderer, and do everything from water pipe
to 0.5 mm pitch surface mount chips by hand, and I don't think there
are a lot of parallels in the technique.

I wonder if there is an another medium besides Ebay for used
equipment/welders, that has a lot of volume.


I don't know of any other good auction or sales sites. Judging
from what goes on with machine tools, the commercial brokers
are very expensive.

Jon

knowone wrote:
Jon,

If it is a.c., does this sound like a good deal in spite of the fact
(verified) that one cannot get parts for it any longer?

I don't like going from a potential of 300 amps to 250 amps but I want a tig
machine!
Hmmm, I don't know. The plain AC transformer machines are pretty
simple. If you can get schematics of any automatic stuff, it should
be repairable even if something minor breaks. The really major stuff
other than SCRs and diodes should be pretty tough.

If it is a square-wave machine, that gets a bit more complicated,
and without schematics it could be real trouble to fix even minor
stuff like a bad control pot or switch. I had to replace a capacitor
on my Lincoln, and they don't give out real schematics of the boards.
But, the wiring diagram they were willing to send me was enough to
get me to the right part the first time.

Jon

Jon Elson wrote:

knowone wrote:
No, what I said was that I have been soldering all my life and I hope that I
can learn tig easier because of it. I never thought tig welding would be
easier than soldering.

Hmm, I really don't think so. the way the whole process is
done, it is not really similar. I think stick welding may
be a lot closer to the TIG scheme than soldering or brazing,
because you ARE dealing with melting the parent metal.

I am a VERY expert solderer, and do everything from water pipe
to 0.5 mm pitch surface mount chips by hand, and I don't think there
are a lot of parallels in the technique.

I wonder if there is an another medium besides Ebay for used
equipment/welders, that has a lot of volume.

I don't know of any other good auction or sales sites. Judging
from what goes on with machine tools, the commercial brokers
are very expensive.

Jon

As someone who has done electronic soldering since I was old enough
(barely) to hold a soldering iron, I definitely feel that experience
made it much easier to learn TIG welding. While the temperature and flow
characteristics are not the same, the process of applying heat with a
torch / iron in one hand and solder / filler with the other hand while
getting your face in quite close is very much the same.

Pete C.

On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:05:17 GMT, "knowone"
wrote:

Jon,

If it is a.c., does this sound like a good deal in spite of the fact
(verified) that one cannot get parts for it any longer?

I don't like going from a potential of 300 amps to 250 amps but I want a tig
machine!

k
That's a good price for a machine with a water cooler. The water
cooled torches aren't expensive, but the coolers are.

If you really need 300 amps you can trade up later. You can TIG a
lot of aluminum at 250 amps and less.

Ok Don, Jon, Pete, Steve, Wayne, Harold and everyone else who helped me with
their input.

I'm sure I will post more after I see and/or buy the Esab. I find it
strange that I can't find information on the model number of it: DTA-250UM
even through google. I need a picture and specs. and so far, no cigar.

k.o.

"Don Foreman" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:05:17 GMT, "knowone"
wrote:

Jon,

If it is a.c., does this sound like a good deal in spite of the fact
(verified) that one cannot get parts for it any longer?

I don't like going from a potential of 300 amps to 250 amps but I want a
tig
machine!

k
That's a good price for a machine with a water cooler. The water
cooled torches aren't expensive, but the coolers are.

If you really need 300 amps you can trade up later. You can TIG a
lot of aluminum at 250 amps and less.

And, thanks for your input, too, Ig.

Nope, tried calling mfg. and it was a 'cluster'.


"Ignoramus16172" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 19:13:03 GMT, knowone wrote:
Ok Don, Jon, Pete, Steve, Wayne, Harold and everyone else who helped me
with
their input.

I'm sure I will post more after I see and/or buy the Esab. I find it
strange that I can't find information on the model number of it:
DTA-250UM
even through google. I need a picture and specs. and so far, no cigar.

Call the manufacturer, you will have your answer is 5 minutes.

i

k.o.

"Don Foreman" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:05:17 GMT, "knowone"
wrote:

Jon,

If it is a.c., does this sound like a good deal in spite of the fact
(verified) that one cannot get parts for it any longer?

I don't like going from a potential of 300 amps to 250 amps but I want a
tig
machine!

k
That's a good price for a machine with a water cooler. The water
cooled torches aren't expensive, but the coolers are.

If you really need 300 amps you can trade up later. You can TIG a
lot of aluminum at 250 amps and less.

I might just be a simple person here BUT I just use a 5 gallon bucket, a
sump pump and my torch to weld, if I weld hard it will warm the water nice
but for the most part it's fine.
"knowone" wrote in message
k.net...
And, thanks for your input, too, Ig.

Nope, tried calling mfg. and it was a 'cluster'.


"Ignoramus16172" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 19:13:03 GMT, knowone wrote:
Ok Don, Jon, Pete, Steve, Wayne, Harold and everyone else who helped me
with
their input.

I'm sure I will post more after I see and/or buy the Esab. I find it
strange that I can't find information on the model number of it:
DTA-250UM
even through google. I need a picture and specs. and so far, no cigar.

Call the manufacturer, you will have your answer is 5 minutes.

i

k.o.

"Don Foreman" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:05:17 GMT, "knowone"
wrote:

Jon,

If it is a.c., does this sound like a good deal in spite of the fact
(verified) that one cannot get parts for it any longer?

I don't like going from a potential of 300 amps to 250 amps but I want
a
tig
machine!

k
That's a good price for a machine with a water cooler. The water
cooled torches aren't expensive, but the coolers are.

If you really need 300 amps you can trade up later. You can TIG a
lot of aluminum at 250 amps and less.

On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:41:21 GMT, "knowone"
wrote:

I would like to have a tig machine.

Does anyone have any comments on the Idealarc 300/300? What about a price
for a used one that is ten years old?

Thanks much


Its a hell of a good machine. I had the smaller Tig 250/250 and would
have like to have the 4 ranges of yours, rather than the 3 I had on
mine. Does it come with a water cooler and torch?

Its also a pretty decent stick welder.

Im assuming this particular version is the transformer machine?

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:56:15 GMT, "knowone"
wrote:

Thanks for the quick reply Harold.

This one has the water cooled torch and regulator. I don't know if it has
the water-cooler, etc. At this point, I don't know anything else as far as
how it is equipped.

I don't know how to tig but I really want to learn to weld alum and ss.

I don't know what the person is asking. What do you think would be a fair
price?

k.

I recently fire saled my 250/250, with Lincoln Magnum cooler, and W-10
torch for $900

The moment I put it on Craigslist..I had 23 folks wanting it and one
wanting to know if it was a typo. Three wanted it shipped out of
California...and one serious inquirey about shipping it to the UK (non
member here)

It was first come first serve..and the buyer lived 275 miles from me
and was here the next weekend, cash in hand.

Gunner




"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
...

"knowone" wrote in message
.net...
I would like to have a tig machine.

Does anyone have any comments on the Idealarc 300/300? What about a
price
for a used one that is ten years old?

Thanks much


I've owned one since the mid 80's, the "new" design. Bought it new.
I'm not an accomplished weldor, so it's hard to judge the machine from the
position of a skilled person, but I can't complain about mine in any way.
I'd buy it again under like circumstances, in other words. Value?
Dunno.
I guess it depends on condition. How's it equipped? How much they
asking?

Harold






"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:16:48 -0600, Jon Elson
wrote:



knowone wrote:

I hate to change in mid-stream but someone just told me about an Esab
DTA-250UM with torch and cooler for $500.00

Input on this PLEASE. What size aluminum fillet flat will this beast weld?
I think 3/16 flat.



Make sure it does AC. Many of the Esabs (and other TIGs) are DC only, and
require 3-phase power.

Jon


Absolutely!

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Thanks but someone bought it.

Still looking for a tig.

Did find an ESAB DTA 250UM for $500.00 but can't find any info. on it other
than general stuff. Don't even have a picture. Comments on it?


"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:56:15 GMT, "knowone"
wrote:

Thanks for the quick reply Harold.

This one has the water cooled torch and regulator. I don't know if it has
the water-cooler, etc. At this point, I don't know anything else as far
as
how it is equipped.

I don't know how to tig but I really want to learn to weld alum and ss.

I don't know what the person is asking. What do you think would be a fair
price?

k.

I recently fire saled my 250/250, with Lincoln Magnum cooler, and W-10
torch for $900

The moment I put it on Craigslist..I had 23 folks wanting it and one
wanting to know if it was a typo. Three wanted it shipped out of
California...and one serious inquirey about shipping it to the UK (non
member here)

It was first come first serve..and the buyer lived 275 miles from me
and was here the next weekend, cash in hand.

Gunner




"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
...

"knowone" wrote in message
.net...
I would like to have a tig machine.

Does anyone have any comments on the Idealarc 300/300? What about a
price
for a used one that is ten years old?

Thanks much


I've owned one since the mid 80's, the "new" design. Bought it new.
I'm not an accomplished weldor, so it's hard to judge the machine from
the
position of a skilled person, but I can't complain about mine in any
way.
I'd buy it again under like circumstances, in other words. Value?
Dunno.
I guess it depends on condition. How's it equipped? How much they
asking?

Harold






"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3