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Can anybody point me in a good direction for converting a tappan range
(model unknown, nameplate is ruined) to propane?

All the sites google comes up with are garbage.

My regulator is rated NG or propane, it says so. I can replace the
orifices in the top burners easily. They're some brass piece that threads
on. I've not peeked in the oven section yet.


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"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message
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Can anybody point me in a good direction for converting a tappan range
(model unknown, nameplate is ruined) to propane?

All the sites google comes up with are garbage.

My regulator is rated NG or propane, it says so. I can replace the
orifices in the top burners easily. They're some brass piece that threads
on. I've not peeked in the oven section yet.



Generally, you need to remove the orfice fittings from ALL the burners, weld
the orfices shut and re-drill them smaller. Talk to your friendly local
propane dealer... They deal with this little "problem" all the time.

Jerry


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On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 11:28:32 +0000 (UTC), with neither quill nor qualm,
Cydrome Leader quickly quoth:

Can anybody point me in a good direction for converting a tappan range
(model unknown, nameplate is ruined) to propane?

All the sites google comes up with are garbage.

My regulator is rated NG or propane, it says so. I can replace the
orifices in the top burners easily. They're some brass piece that threads
on. I've not peeked in the oven section yet.


Where do you buy your propane? Have them come out to look at the stove
and ask them for sourcing on orifices.

AFAIK, the orifice is the only change, though the burners have to be
optimized for correct flame color/burn. When I put the old Caddie
(Deville, with separate oven/broiler and chromed cast iron griddle
top) stove in my last house, it was already set up for propane. There
was no other metering on it and the gas came from a shutoff on the
wall. Burn adjustments were simple sheetmetal plates for ducting air
into the burner air intake.

http://www.antiquegasstoves.com/page.../oldparts.html
Mine was a white one set up like the blue one on the left, with the
glass shelf, clock, and gaudy aluminum/chrome goodies. Great old
stove. I miss it now that I'm on a ceramic cooktop, though the
'lectric stove is a bit cleaner.

Looking at this site, I see that there is a propane regulator
available. I may have missed seeing the one on my old Caddie.
There's your source, though.

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I has been years since I have done this but the easiest is going thru your
friendly propane dealer. Very competitive business and these that sell
appliances usually have skilled delivery employees who can do it in a couple
minutes.

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"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message
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Can anybody point me in a good direction for converting a tappan range
(model unknown, nameplate is ruined) to propane?

All the sites google comes up with are garbage.

My regulator is rated NG or propane, it says so. I can replace the
orifices in the top burners easily. They're some brass piece that

threads
on. I've not peeked in the oven section yet.



You only have to hit an OLDER appliance store that sells and repairs
products. Take a picture of yours with you. There should be part numbers
cast/stamped into the burners. Have them order you the conversion parts
kit. It includes new orifice jets for each burner and one for the oven.
These just unscrew and you screw the new ones in. Hook up the propane
and adjust the flames using the small adjuster screws that are inside
the control stems (pull off the knobs to see them). The kit will come
with an instruction sheet that will give you the same info.



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Jerry Foster wrote:

"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message
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Can anybody point me in a good direction for converting a tappan range
(model unknown, nameplate is ruined) to propane?

All the sites google comes up with are garbage.

My regulator is rated NG or propane, it says so. I can replace the
orifices in the top burners easily. They're some brass piece that threads
on. I've not peeked in the oven section yet.



Generally, you need to remove the orfice fittings from ALL the burners, weld
the orfices shut and re-drill them smaller. Talk to your friendly local
propane dealer... They deal with this little "problem" all the time.


The catch is I live in Chicago, I don't see propane used for anything but
melting tar and heating contruction sites. My issue is the fixed fees for
natural gas connection exceed my actual gas usage by about a factor of 5.
It's scam I'm not interested in participating in any longer.
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:57:10 +0000 (UTC), with neither quill nor qualm,
Cydrome Leader quickly quoth:

The catch is I live in Chicago, I don't see propane used for anything but
melting tar and heating contruction sites. My issue is the fixed fees for
natural gas connection exceed my actual gas usage by about a factor of 5.
It's scam I'm not interested in participating in any longer.


Damn, CL. You'll likely pay for a tank (or the rental on a tank) and a
monthly fee from the propane guys, too. My minimum use fee here is $5
(supposedly to pay for meter reading, etc.) and I pay it during the
summer months when my gas use is low. (furnace only)

Your point may be moot as your gas bill likely will be high enough to
avoid the minimum once you start using the stove. It's certainly more
expensive and much more of a hassle to convert and use propane.


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You have to get the measurement of the natural orfice its measured in the
wire drill gauge then call CCC 1-847-966-9700 they are in chicago ask for
tech support
tel them what you are doing and you may have to reverse the regulator ask
them what to do if they cant help you call a restaurant supply co. go thru
procedure
good luck the burners and the oven will be differefent measurements
different (btu)
"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message
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Can anybody point me in a good direction for converting a tappan range
(model unknown, nameplate is ruined) to propane?

All the sites google comes up with are garbage.

My regulator is rated NG or propane, it says so. I can replace the
orifices in the top burners easily. They're some brass piece that threads
on. I've not peeked in the oven section yet.




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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:57:10 +0000 (UTC), with neither quill nor qualm,
Cydrome Leader quickly quoth:

The catch is I live in Chicago, I don't see propane used for anything but
melting tar and heating contruction sites. My issue is the fixed fees for
natural gas connection exceed my actual gas usage by about a factor of 5.
It's scam I'm not interested in participating in any longer.


Damn, CL. You'll likely pay for a tank (or the rental on a tank) and a
monthly fee from the propane guys, too. My minimum use fee here is $5
(supposedly to pay for meter reading, etc.) and I pay it during the
summer months when my gas use is low. (furnace only)

Your point may be moot as your gas bill likely will be high enough to
avoid the minimum once you start using the stove. It's certainly more
expensive and much more of a hassle to convert and use propane.


I don't mind owning an exchangable tank. I own all my other gas bottles.
If I don't use them, they sit there. There's no recurring charges.
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Edward Baud wrote:
You have to get the measurement of the natural orfice its measured in the
wire drill gauge then call CCC 1-847-966-9700 they are in chicago ask for
tech support
tel them what you are doing and you may have to reverse the regulator ask


I looked at the regulator today. The top cap unscrewed and there was a
plastic peg in it stamped NG and LP. Pulling it out of the aluminum cap
lets you reverse it, by flipping it over. and apparently that's all
that's needed to switch this regulator.

yay.

them what to do if they cant help you call a restaurant supply co. go thru
procedure
good luck the burners and the oven will be differefent measurements
different (btu)
"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message
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Can anybody point me in a good direction for converting a tappan range
(model unknown, nameplate is ruined) to propane?

All the sites google comes up with are garbage.

My regulator is rated NG or propane, it says so. I can replace the
orifices in the top burners easily. They're some brass piece that threads
on. I've not peeked in the oven section yet.




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