On 30 Dec 2005 19:12:08 -0800, wrote:

If you get a chance there is a great article in the current issue of
FastCompany called "The Man Who Said No to Wal-Mart". The article is on
why the CEO of Snapper mowers (US made), Mr. Jim Wier, said NO and the
reasons behind it. Quite interesting.

Personally, I would have done the same thing. Maintain superior quality
with a name behind the brand, support local service and repair and keep
the integrity of the manufacturing business. Walmart suggested a
cheaper model, even outsourcing to a cheaper manufacture, while
maintaining a Snapper brand name. Mr. Wier made the right choice and
will not be known for tarnishing the Snapper brand name by introducing
a low quaility model.

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/

gary

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

Gunner Asch wrote:
On 30 Dec 2005 19:12:08 -0800, wrote:


If you get a chance there is a great article in the current issue of
FastCompany called "The Man Who Said No to Wal-Mart". The article is on
why the CEO of Snapper mowers (US made), Mr. Jim Wier, said NO and the
reasons behind it. Quite interesting.

Personally, I would have done the same thing. Maintain superior quality
with a name behind the brand, support local service and repair and keep
the integrity of the manufacturing business. Walmart suggested a
cheaper model, even outsourcing to a cheaper manufacture, while
maintaining a Snapper brand name. Mr. Wier made the right choice and
will not be known for tarnishing the Snapper brand name by introducing
a low quaility model.
COOL! Nice to know SOMEBODY still has a backbone!

Jon

Cool. We have a Wally World in town and everytime I go in there I just
feel like I am doing business with satan for some reason.
A few years ago INC magazine had an article on small business that
dealt with WM and how it almost destroyed some of them.
Mike

Cool. We have a Wally World in town and everytime I go in there I just
feel like I am doing business with satan for some reason.
A few years ago INC magazine had an article on small business that
dealt with WM and how it almost destroyed some of them.
Mike

So WHY go in there??? Myself, my wife, both my boys and their wives
REFUSE to shop at Wal-Mart. PERIOD. I will pay more elsewhere, I
will get quality elsewhere. Until I absolutely cannot find what I
need at other places, Wal-mart will not get my China bound money.
This country needs to WAKE UP - and stop shopping at Wal-Mart !
Ken.

Because they are the only ones in town with any sort of a selection of
inkjet cartridges or electronics. Otherwise, I take my business
elsewhere.

And I agree that people need to boycott Wally World. But with their
"Everyday Low Prices" that has about much chance of happening as me
turning into your fairy godmother.

Mike

really walmart prices in general are no lower than elsewhere its
marketing that shows the few things that are cheaper better than others

mj wrote:
Because they are the only ones in town with any sort of a selection of
inkjet cartridges or electronics. Otherwise, I take my business
elsewhere.

And I agree that people need to boycott Wally World. But with their
"Everyday Low Prices" that has about much chance of happening as me
turning into your fairy godmother.

Mike

"Brent Philion" wrote in message
...
really walmart prices in general are no lower than elsewhere its
marketing that shows the few things that are cheaper better than others

Overall, they run 3 to 5% lower than competitors, according to retail
surveys.

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On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:09:41 GMT, Ken Sterling (Ken Sterling) wrote:

Cool. We have a Wally World in town and everytime I go in there I just
feel like I am doing business with satan for some reason.
A few years ago INC magazine had an article on small business that
dealt with WM and how it almost destroyed some of them.
Mike

So WHY go in there??? Myself, my wife, both my boys and their wives
REFUSE to shop at Wal-Mart. PERIOD. I will pay more elsewhere, I
will get quality elsewhere. Until I absolutely cannot find what I
need at other places, Wal-mart will not get my China bound money.
This country needs to WAKE UP - and stop shopping at Wal-Mart !
Ken.

So Ken..can you give me the names of a couple good American made CD or
DVD players? Or perhaps a TV set?

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:09:41 GMT, Ken Sterling (Ken Sterling) wrote:

Cool. We have a Wally World in town and everytime I go in there I just
feel like I am doing business with satan for some reason.
A few years ago INC magazine had an article on small business that
dealt with WM and how it almost destroyed some of them.
Mike

So WHY go in there??? Myself, my wife, both my boys and their wives
REFUSE to shop at Wal-Mart. PERIOD. I will pay more elsewhere, I
will get quality elsewhere. Until I absolutely cannot find what I
need at other places, Wal-mart will not get my China bound money.
This country needs to WAKE UP - and stop shopping at Wal-Mart !
Ken.

So Ken..can you give me the names of a couple good American made CD or
DVD players? Or perhaps a TV set?

Gunner

Lots of stuff made here (Sony), and lots of stuff made in Japan (Sony)
...... stuff made in China - don't want it, don't need it - may as
well throw the bux in the dumpster as that's where the Chinese junk is
going to end up anyway (and soon)... and basically all the Chinese are
doing is reverse engineering anything that is going on the market -
then they cheapen it up - and mass produce it and flood the market so
the Americans will buy it and throw it away in a week and buy another.
sigh Don't own a DVD or a CD - don't need 'em, and when the old TV
finally craps out, may not even replace it, as there certainly isn't
anything worth watching on it now. China has surpassed the US in
electronic exports (2005) - only because we buy 'em - and only because
Wal-mart floods the market with 'em. But it's no different with
clothing, toys, etc., etc.... It's getting real tough to buy "made in
USA", but I'm continually trying. I'm also a bit stubborn in that I
may either *make* what I need or do without if it says CHINA on it.
But, then again, that's just me and my attitude. I hate Wal-mart and
everything it stands for and does.... watch a show on PBS called
Frontline sometime when they are showing "Wal-mart, are they really
*good* for America".... You may get the picture....
Ken.

On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:10:36 GMT, Ken Sterling (Ken Sterling) wrote:

On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:09:41 GMT, Ken Sterling (Ken Sterling) wrote:

Cool. We have a Wally World in town and everytime I go in there I just
feel like I am doing business with satan for some reason.
A few years ago INC magazine had an article on small business that
dealt with WM and how it almost destroyed some of them.
Mike

So WHY go in there??? Myself, my wife, both my boys and their wives
REFUSE to shop at Wal-Mart. PERIOD. I will pay more elsewhere, I
will get quality elsewhere. Until I absolutely cannot find what I
need at other places, Wal-mart will not get my China bound money.
This country needs to WAKE UP - and stop shopping at Wal-Mart !
Ken.

So Ken..can you give me the names of a couple good American made CD or
DVD players? Or perhaps a TV set?

Gunner

Lots of stuff made here (Sony), and lots of stuff made in Japan (Sony)
..... stuff made in China - don't want it, don't need it - may as
well throw the bux in the dumpster as that's where the Chinese junk is
going to end up anyway (and soon)... and basically all the Chinese are
doing is reverse engineering anything that is going on the market -
then they cheapen it up - and mass produce it and flood the market so
the Americans will buy it and throw it away in a week and buy another.
sigh Don't own a DVD or a CD - don't need 'em, and when the old TV
finally craps out, may not even replace it, as there certainly isn't
anything worth watching on it now. China has surpassed the US in
electronic exports (2005) - only because we buy 'em - and only because
Wal-mart floods the market with 'em. But it's no different with
clothing, toys, etc., etc.... It's getting real tough to buy "made in
USA", but I'm continually trying. I'm also a bit stubborn in that I
may either *make* what I need or do without if it says CHINA on it.
But, then again, that's just me and my attitude. I hate Wal-mart and
everything it stands for and does.... watch a show on PBS called
Frontline sometime when they are showing "Wal-mart, are they really
*good* for America".... You may get the picture....
Ken.

So its ok if I buy the CD player at Costco for $50, but not the very
same chinese made one at Walmart for $29?

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:10:36 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Ken
Sterling (Ken Sterling) quickly quoth:

On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:09:41 GMT, Ken Sterling (Ken Sterling) wrote:

Cool. We have a Wally World in town and everytime I go in there I just
feel like I am doing business with satan for some reason.
A few years ago INC magazine had an article on small business that
dealt with WM and how it almost destroyed some of them.
Mike

So WHY go in there??? Myself, my wife, both my boys and their wives
REFUSE to shop at Wal-Mart. PERIOD. I will pay more elsewhere, I
will get quality elsewhere. Until I absolutely cannot find what I
need at other places, Wal-mart will not get my China bound money.
This country needs to WAKE UP - and stop shopping at Wal-Mart !
Ken.

So Ken..can you give me the names of a couple good American made CD or
DVD players? Or perhaps a TV set?

Gunner

Lots of stuff made here (Sony), and lots of stuff made in Japan (Sony)

Ken, the Sony plant over by Los Peñasquitos, CA made sony TVs from PC
boards made in Japan or the USA, all the components were assembled and
soldered by maquiladoras in Mexico, and then sent back across the
border. The tubes were all Malaysian-made and the folks at Sony here
in the USA just -assembled- things. I knew a couple of folks who had
worked there when I lived in Vista.

They're probably all made in Mexico, Malaysia, and/or China by now.

You should probably get used to global goods, though, Ken. They're
here to stay and you and a few others won't even slightly faze the
trend. Boycotting Wally World can only hurt the US job market, but
that's only if you're having -any- effect whatsoever on their sales,
which I highly doubt.


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