I had heard a few years back that Wal-Mart Paint was Excellent...made by one
of the big guns in the paint industry. At the time, I bought Wal-Mart
interior paint with good results.

Is there exterior paint just as good? I will be painting my house this next
month and would like to get the best paint there is for the best possible
price. Wal-Mart is going for $60 for 5 gallon pail.

June 05 Consumer Reports favors Glidden strangely Wal Mart is not
included in tests !
"excap" wrote in message
...
I had heard a few years back that Wal-Mart Paint was Excellent...made by
one
of the big guns in the paint industry. At the time, I bought Wal-Mart
interior paint with good results.

Is there exterior paint just as good? I will be painting my house this
next
month and would like to get the best paint there is for the best possible
price. Wal-Mart is going for $60 for 5 gallon pail.

barbarow wrote:

June 05 Consumer Reports favors Glidden strangely Wal Mart is not
included in tests !
"excap" wrote in message
...
I had heard a few years back that Wal-Mart Paint was Excellent...made by
one
of the big guns in the paint industry. At the time, I bought Wal-Mart
interior paint with good results.

Is there exterior paint just as good? I will be painting my house this
next
month and would like to get the best paint there is for the best possible
price. Wal-Mart is going for $60 for 5 gallon pail.



Last year when I asked, they claimed it was Sherwin-Williams. I asked a
local who works there who would hear tales from users the generic "Is it
any good?" question. He responded "They sell more paint than anyone
else." I said that was the answer to a different question. He didn't
respond further.

I did buy a gallon (oil-base exterior) for a trial on the house. It
seemed "OK", but not long enough yet to compare.

excap wrote:
I had heard a few years back that Wal-Mart Paint was Excellent...made
by one of the big guns in the paint industry. At the time, I bought
Wal-Mart interior paint with good results.

Is there exterior paint just as good? I will be painting my house
this next month and would like to get the best paint there is for the
best possible price. Wal-Mart is going for $60 for 5 gallon pail.

I don't know who makes their stuff, and it may not be the same all over
the country, but the stuff I bought (interior bath) a couple of years ago
was outstanding.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

Joseph Meehan wrote:

excap wrote:
I had heard a few years back that Wal-Mart Paint was Excellent...made
by one of the big guns in the paint industry. At the time, I bought
Wal-Mart interior paint with good results.

Is there exterior paint just as good? I will be painting my house
this next month and would like to get the best paint there is for the
best possible price. Wal-Mart is going for $60 for 5 gallon pail.

I don't know who makes their stuff, and it may not be the same all over
the country, but the stuff I bought (interior bath) a couple of years ago
was outstanding.

I'd strongly expect them to use the same vendor(s) for all, but there's
certainly no guarantee that won't change. Last year they told me it was
Sherwin-Williams.

"Duane Bozarth" wrote in message
I'd strongly expect them to use the same vendor(s) for all, but there's
certainly no guarantee that won't change. Last year they told me it was
Sherwin-Williams.

But that does not mean the quality is the same as you'd find in a SW store.
My guess is that Wal Mart is giving them specs to meet. Could be better,
could be worse.

My only experience with Wal Mart paint is one gallon of interior about 5
years ago. Hopefully, things are better now. I'm sticking the brands I
know.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

"Duane Bozarth" wrote in message
I'd strongly expect them to use the same vendor(s) for all, but there's
certainly no guarantee that won't change. Last year they told me it was
Sherwin-Williams.

But that does not mean the quality is the same as you'd find in a SW store.
My guess is that Wal Mart is giving them specs to meet. Could be better,
could be worse.

Oh, most certainly! Didn't mean to imply anything other than the
manufacturer name. That's the way they purchase any/all products of
such magnitude. One would expect solids content, etc., to be less w/
the W/M branded vis a vis the S-W, or at least the "best" W/M would more
nearly equate to a mid-range S-W branded. I noted that when I was there
last year, the price differential was not very great between what would
have been, in my estimation, the closest matches between grades--roughly
$1/gal was all.

For the large volume I required for the barn and house I ended up w/
Behr in large part because there is only one independent paint dealer
left in town and they were unwilling to dicker at all even for an order
of over 100 gal (primer and topcopat). On top of which, they didn't have
oil-based in stock except in 1 gal cans and refused to order 5-gal
buckets.

HD, otoh, gave significant discount and even offered to send the
shipment directly here to the farm, 60 mi from the store in another town
if it were necessary/convenient! I had no problem storing it for a
while so just took delivery and brought it home, but compared to local
S-W store, the service was most excellent.
It's now been over one winter so far and all seems well this spring. Am
waiting after rain last couple of days for it to dry up enough to finish
some touch up prep and the last wall on the barn we got primer on but
not topcoat before it got too cold last December. It went on well
(sprayed, then brushed out) and covered well. Used a high gloss rather
than semi-gloss to add additional surface protection and reflectivity in
our high UV environment. Was blinding in the direct sun to look at
although has dulled just slightly w/ some dirt/dust collection...

But that does not mean the quality is the same as you'd find in a SW store.
My guess is that Wal Mart is giving them specs to meet.

Exactly. And ask any mfr that does business with them -- the spec
WalMart is most concerned about is cost.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
news:wC2ne.3377$Sl5.2137@trndny08...

But that does not mean the quality is the same as you'd find in a SW
store.
My guess is that Wal Mart is giving them specs to meet. Could be better,
could be worse.

I spoke to a friend who is the CEO of a bicycle manufacturer about his
dealings with Wal-Mart. He said he's happy to sell to them, but only on
condition that his company's name does not appear on the product, because
of what he's forced to do in order to meet their pricing policies.
Example: fewer spokes in the wheels, vinyl instead of leather saddles,
plastic where metal should be used, unsmoothed welds, no primer, less paint,
etc. You only get what you pay for. A great majority of Wal-Mart merchandise
is built to a price point, rather than a quality/feature level.

CR favors Glidden because it's cheap [a best buy]. And the Glidden that
rated high is not the cheap line.

If you're looking to save a few bucks, don't do it when buying
[exterior] paint.

You get what you pay for. At 12 bucks a gallon, you'll probably be
sorry.

I only buy quality paint. This has proved an excellent policy. I last
painted my house in the early 1980's and the paint is just starting to need
a recoat. Think about the cost per year and the time and labor to paint a
house, if it can last 20 to 23 years, the cost for the good stuff is
minimal.

"excap" wrote in message
...
I had heard a few years back that Wal-Mart Paint was Excellent...made by
one
of the big guns in the paint industry. At the time, I bought Wal-Mart
interior paint with good results.

Is there exterior paint just as good? I will be painting my house this
next
month and would like to get the best paint there is for the best possible
price. Wal-Mart is going for $60 for 5 gallon pail.

"Hopkins" wrote in message
oups.com...
If you're looking to save a few bucks, don't do it when buying
[exterior] paint.

You get what you pay for. At 12 bucks a gallon, you'll probably be
sorry.

Right. The main "expenditure" in exterior painting is prep and application -
not the paint itself.

excap wrote:
I had heard a few years back that Wal-Mart Paint was Excellent...made by one
of the big guns in the paint industry. At the time, I bought Wal-Mart
interior paint with good results.

Is there exterior paint just as good? I will be painting my house this next
month and would like to get the best paint there is for the best possible
price. Wal-Mart is going for $60 for 5 gallon pail.



fwiw

Most of Wal-mart's paint is made by Sherwin Williams and Valspar. I know
that because a good friend of mine was a sales rep for both paint
companys over the years and he told me so. He also told me about a
WalMart paint product called Multi-Use. He said when it hit the market
he questioned the vast array of surfaces the product touted it would
work on.

He tested it himself on different ypes of wood, new metal, rusty metal
aluminum, drywall, even hardibacker among other things. He left the
stuff outside for 6 mos. and said that virtually every surface still
looked as good as the day he first painted them. he claims it's an
excellent product for interior or exterior.

He's a very experienced (now retired) painter as well himself and is no
longer tied to either paint mfger anymore, or Walmart for that matter
and could care less what anyone else uses so I trust his judgement.

BillC wrote:
"Hopkins" wrote in message


You get what you pay for. At 12 bucks a gallon, you'll probably be
sorry.


Right. The main "expenditure" in exterior painting is prep and application -
not the paint itself.





Yeah but it's so easy to give *that* type of reply when the question
deals with quality. And while there's probably nothing in the world
that *that* can't be said about, it's not always true. Hey it's usenet
advice, "you get what you pay for"...

"G Henslee" wrote in message
...

Most of Wal-mart's paint is made by Sherwin Williams and Valspar.and could
care less what anyone else uses so I trust his judgement.

*snip*

Does it really matter which company makes it if the reseller specifies
lesser quality ingredients or quality level?

"PhotoMan" wrote in message
. ..

"G Henslee" wrote in message
...

Most of Wal-mart's paint is made by Sherwin Williams and Valspar.and
could
care less what anyone else uses so I trust his judgement.

*snip*

Does it really matter which company makes it if the reseller specifies
lesser quality ingredients or quality level?



General Motors makes the Chevette, Vega, and the Cadillac. Too bad all
three of them are ****.

Oscar_Lives wrote:
"PhotoMan" wrote in message
. ..

"G Henslee" wrote in message
...


Most of Wal-mart's paint is made by Sherwin Williams and Valspar.and
could

care less what anyone else uses so I trust his judgement.

*snip*

Does it really matter which company makes it if the reseller specifies
lesser quality ingredients or quality level?

What do you know for fact about it? Didn't think so. Speculation means
squat.





General Motors makes the Chevette, Vega, and the Cadillac. Too bad all
three of them are ****.




Apples and oranges.

Can't necessarily argue that, but cheap exterior paint just doesn't
hold up like good stuff.

When it comes to interior paint, who cares? It's a controlled
environment, so using cheap stuff is fine if that's what someone wants.

Even the Valspar stuff that's labelled Valspar is lower quality.

While I'm at it, the multi-use stuff is iffy at best. IMO it's targeted
for homeowners who just don't want to bother with buying a couple
different paints

What do you know for fact about it?

I know high quality isn't a concern for W-M branded product, and I know
S-W makes a contractor grade that I wouldn't recommend to anyone...
same with a few other paint brands. If that's what's being sold at W-M
it's not worth it.

Hopkins wrote:
What do you know for fact about it?


I know high quality isn't a concern for W-M branded product,

You don't know that for fact regarding their paint. You speculate as
well as generalize.

and I know
S-W makes a contractor grade that I wouldn't recommend to anyone...
same with a few other paint brands.

Yet you recommend no products.

If that's what's being sold at W-M
it's not worth it.


If?? As I said, you don't know. Walmart's an easy target but you like
others in this thread have no facts or figures to really shoot at them
with regarding this topic.


-end of conversation-

Hopkins wrote:
Can't necessarily argue that, but cheap exterior paint just doesn't
hold up like good stuff.

Now, that's a revelation...


When it comes to interior paint, who cares? It's a controlled
environment, so using cheap stuff is fine if that's what someone wants.


Just what is NOT "cheap stuff" to you? You've shot down Glidden,
Valspar, Sherwin Williams, Walmart in general, yet you offer nothing but
Benjamin Moore and it appears that you're still waiting for the jury to
come in on that one.

Perhaps you make your own paint...

-end of conversation-

I shot down one of Glidden's lines, as well as one of S-W's lines. Try
to keep up. I've used S-W's good stuff and have no complaints.

Can't necessarily argue that, but cheap exterior paint just doesn't
hold up like good stuff.

Now, that's a revelation...

Apparently it is to you -- you think WM paint is fine, at 12 bucks per,
and that it must be good because someone told you S-W makes it.

*yawn*

You say walmart paint is made by S-W, but that means nothing. S-W makes
a crappy line of paint just like most other brands, but somehow we're
supposed to be impressed when you claim S-W makes WM paint.

I know WM's main concern isn't quality -- why would their labeled paint
be any different?

Yet you recommend no products.

I certainly did in the other thread. Try to keep up.

If?? As I said, you don't know.

I'm not the one trying to sell someone on something I'm clueless about.
You can't say anything definitive about WM paint quality. You're not
getting S-W's good stuff for 12 bucks per, no matter how it's labeled.

"Hopkins" wrote in message
oups.com...
Can't necessarily argue that, but cheap exterior paint just doesn't
hold up like good stuff.

When it comes to interior paint, who cares? It's a controlled
environment, so using cheap stuff is fine if that's what someone wants.


Not really unless you like extra work. A good quality paint will usually
cover with one coat. Cheepo paint almost always requires 2 or more coats to
get the same result.

"PhotoMan" wrote in message
. ..

"G Henslee" wrote in message
...

Most of Wal-mart's paint is made by Sherwin Williams and Valspar.and
could
care less what anyone else uses so I trust his judgement.

*snip*

Does it really matter which company makes it if the reseller specifies
lesser quality ingredients or quality level?


Exactly, they don't put their name on the can for a reason.

"G Henslee" wrote in message
...
BillC wrote:
"Hopkins" wrote in message


You get what you pay for. At 12 bucks a gallon, you'll probably be
sorry.


Right. The main "expenditure" in exterior painting is prep and
application - not the paint itself.





Yeah but it's so easy to give *that* type of reply when the question deals
with quality. And while there's probably nothing in the world that *that*
can't be said about, it's not always true. Hey it's usenet advice, "you
get what you pay for"...

What a stupid reply.
I repeat: the main "expenditure" in exterior painting is prep and
application - not the paint itself. Good paint costs a little more, and
lasts a lot longer.

No magic here. Buy cheap paint and you get cheap paint. You say you LIKE
to paint the house every coupla years? Buy cheap paint.

"excap" wrote in message
...
I had heard a few years back that Wal-Mart Paint was Excellent...made by
one
of the big guns in the paint industry. At the time, I bought Wal-Mart
interior paint with good results.

Is there exterior paint just as good? I will be painting my house this
next
month and would like to get the best paint there is for the best possible
price. Wal-Mart is going for $60 for 5 gallon pail.

WALMART PAINT IS THE BEST DANGED PAINT IN THE WHOLE DANGED UNIVERSE !!!