Project Gutenberg now has The Boy Mechanic on line.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/12655/12655-pdf.pdf


Kevin Gallimore

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Yikes, it's a 17 MB download, all in one piece!

Saved for a day when I don't feel like doing anything with my computer
for a while!

Regards,

Bob

axolotl wrote:

Project Gutenberg now has The Boy Mechanic on line.

Very nice! Thank you.
Will have to browse the rest of the URL

Nick
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On 20 Nov 2005 19:18:53 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, "Bob"
quickly quoth:

Yikes, it's a 17 MB download, all in one piece!

Saved for a day when I don't feel like doing anything with my computer
for a while!

I always do my Usenetting while downloading. Agent doesn't take much
memory or CPU cycles so it's perfect. Try it sometime.


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For some reason the original post did not come to me.
Would someone repost at least the link?

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Rex Burkheimer
WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX

Bob wrote:
Yikes, it's a 17 MB download, all in one piece!

Saved for a day when I don't feel like doing anything with my computer
for a while!

Regards,

Bob

"Rex B" wrote in message
...
For some reason the original post did not come to me.
Would someone repost at least the link?

- -
Rex Burkheimer
WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX

Bob wrote:
Yikes, it's a 17 MB download, all in one piece!

Saved for a day when I don't feel like doing anything with my
computer
for a while!

Regards,

Bob


http://www.gutenberg.org/files/12655/12655-pdf.pdf

I was able - just at 6 minutes. Not really ripping - Modem is locked on 100M but
there is a link somewhere - likely limited at Gutenberg or between.

Martin
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Rick wrote:
"Rex B" wrote in message
...

For some reason the original post did not come to me.
Would someone repost at least the link?

- -
Rex Burkheimer
WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX

Bob wrote:

Yikes, it's a 17 MB download, all in one piece!

Saved for a day when I don't feel like doing anything with my

computer

for a while!

Regards,

Bob



http://www.gutenberg.org/files/12655/12655-pdf.pdf



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Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
I was able - just at 6 minutes. Not really ripping -


I have found that there are advantages to having your son set up the
(his too) DSL line

Kevin Gallimore

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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:35:24 +0100, (Nick Müller)
wrote:

axolotl wrote:

Project Gutenberg now has The Boy Mechanic on line.

Very nice! Thank you.
Will have to browse the rest of the URL

Nick

Our local library had the "boy mechanic" when I was a kid - must have
read it cover to cover a dozen times. Now I can read it again.

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:35:24 +0100, (Nick Müller)
wrote:

axolotl wrote:

Project Gutenberg now has The Boy Mechanic on line.

Very nice! Thank you.
Will have to browse the rest of the URL

Nick

Our local library had the "boy mechanic" when I was a kid - must have
read it cover to cover a dozen times. Now I can read it again.
This is a large download! over 17M.
If anyone would like this on a CD, I'll burn it and mail it to you (anywhere in
the world) for $5.00. I take Paypal.



Ron Thompson
On the Beautiful Florida Space Coast, right beside the Kennedy Space Center, USA

http://www.plansandprojects.com
My hobby pages are he
http://www.plansandprojects.com/My%20Machines/

Severe stupidity is self correcting, but mild stupidity is rampant in the land.
-Ron Thompson

Ron Thompson wrote:

If anyone would like this on a CD, I'll burn it and mail it to you
(anywhere in the world) for $5.00. I take Paypal.

Before selling the work of others, you should read the terms of "Project
Gutenberg".

Nick
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:25:31 +0100, (Nick Müller)
wrote:

Ron Thompson wrote:

If anyone would like this on a CD, I'll burn it and mail it to you
(anywhere in the world) for $5.00. I take Paypal.

Before selling the work of others, you should read the terms of "Project
Gutenberg".

OR read the first part of the file, permission is granted.

Richard wrote:

OR read the first part of the file, permission is granted.

.... for redistribution without charge. Yes.


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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:25:31 +0100, (Nick Müller)
wrote:

Ron Thompson wrote:

If anyone would like this on a CD, I'll burn it and mail it to you
(anywhere in the world) for $5.00. I take Paypal.

Before selling the work of others, you should read the terms of "Project
Gutenberg".

Nick
He's not selling the "work of others" - just the download and
duplication service. That is the work of him and his computer.

wrote:

just the download and duplication service. That is the work of him and his
computer.

Would someone buy an empty CD (or one with binary noise on it) for $5?
No. The value of the CD is from the work of others. It's just stealing
of and ****ing at the _free_ work of others.

Shame! EOD

Nick
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:25:31 +0100, (Nick Müller)
wrote:

Ron Thompson wrote:

If anyone would like this on a CD, I'll burn it and mail it to you
(anywhere in the world) for $5.00. I take Paypal.

Before selling the work of others, you should read the terms of "Project
Gutenberg".

OR read the first part of the file, permission is granted.
If it were not public domain material, I wouldn't have made the offer.
This is from the first page of the file:

Project Gutenberg's The Boy Mechanic: Volume 1, by Popular Mechanics
This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere at no cost and with
almost no restrictions whatsoever. You may copy it, give it away or
re-use it under the terms of the Project Gutenberg License included
with this eBook or online at www.gutenberg.net
Title: The Boy Mechanic: Volume 1
700 Things For Boys To Do
Author: Popular Mechanics
Release Date: June 18, 2004 [EBook #12655]
Language: English
Character set encoding: ISO-8859-1
*** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK THE BOY MECHANIC: VOLUME 1 ***
Produced by Don Kostuch

Ron Thompson
On the Beautiful Florida Space Coast, right beside the Kennedy Space Center, USA

http://www.plansandprojects.com
My hobby pages are he
http://www.plansandprojects.com/My%20Machines/

Severe stupidity is self correcting, but mild stupidity is rampant in the land.
-Ron Thompson

Ron Thompson wrote:

If it were not public domain material, I wouldn't have made the offer.
This is from the first page of the file:

Do yourself and the contributors to Project Gutenberg the favour to read
this:
http://www.gutenberg.org/license

Especialy: "If you charge money for the copies you distribute, you have
to pay royalties to Project Gutenberg."

Before you continue to spread huge piles of ****!

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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:00:39 +0100, (Nick Müller)
wrote:

wrote:

just the download and duplication service. That is the work of him and his
computer.

Would someone buy an empty CD (or one with binary noise on it) for $5?
No. The value of the CD is from the work of others. It's just stealing
of and ****ing at the _free_ work of others.

Shame! EOD

Nick
If you only have a slow dialup and no CD burner, would you pay someone
$5 to download and burn a CD for you??? Not too many years ago many
people were paying a WHOLE LOT more than that (like 4 times that) just
to get a CD burned - when THEY provided the data.
I'd say $5 was fair reproduction cost. Content is worth a lot more
than that.

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 23:50:20 +0100, (Nick Müller)
wrote:

Ron Thompson wrote:

If it were not public domain material, I wouldn't have made the offer.
This is from the first page of the file:

Do yourself and the contributors to Project Gutenberg the favour to read
this:
http://www.gutenberg.org/license

Especialy: "If you charge money for the copies you distribute, you have
to pay royalties to Project Gutenberg."

Before you continue to spread huge piles of ****!

Recovery of cost is NOT any violation of their license agreement.

Time involved and depreciation of the equipment used are legitimate
costs. (And the $5 charge would be considered very reasonable for the
service.) Charging for the costs is in no way selling the product. He
would be charging for a service, not a product.

As per: those that transcribe from records to CD and charge for it,
they're selling a service, not a product. It's pretty common,
profitable, AND LEGAL.

Rich

Richard wrote:

Recovery of cost is NOT any violation of their license agreement.

There is no service you can charge for:
"If you charge money for the copies you distribute, you have
to pay royalties to Project Gutenberg."

Hopefully you can read and understand this single sentence.


Nick
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 02:03:03 +0100, (Nick Müller)
wrote:

Richard wrote:

Recovery of cost is NOT any violation of their license agreement.

There is no service you can charge for:
"If you charge money for the copies you distribute, you have
to pay royalties to Project Gutenberg."

Hopefully you can read and understand this single sentence.


Nick

You can always tell a german, just not much.

He is not charging for the copy, he's charging for the service of
making the copy.

Plonk

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 02:03:03 +0100, (Nick Müller)
wrote:

Richard wrote:

Recovery of cost is NOT any violation of their license agreement.

There is no service you can charge for:
"If you charge money for the copies you distribute, you have
to pay royalties to Project Gutenberg."

Hopefully you can read and understand this single sentence.


Nick


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You can make your own decisions, but the above states the rules set
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OK, It says a 20% of the PROFIT.
You tell me how to download a large file, burn a CD, label the CD, pack the CD,
and mail it anywhere in the world for $5.00 and make a profit. I figure I am
pretty much donating my time.
If anyone objects to this, I formally withdraw the offer to you. It is, however,
still open to anyone who does not object.
Sheesh! Try to help people...


Ron Thompson
On the Beautiful Florida Space Coast, right beside the Kennedy Space Center, USA

http://www.plansandprojects.com
My hobby pages are he
http://www.plansandprojects.com/My%20Machines/

Severe stupidity is self correcting, but mild stupidity is rampant in the land.
-Ron Thompson

Ron Thompson wrote:

If anyone objects to this, I formally withdraw the offer to you. It is,
however, still open to anyone who does not object.

You allready documented your odd attitude towards copyright at:
http://www.plansandprojects.com/copyrights.htm


Severe stupidity is self correcting, but mild stupidity is rampant in the
land.

Yes!


Nick
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Motor Modelle // Engine Models
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