In article , Ed Huntress says...

Hey, it pays the bills. How is Pat Robertson playing in the UK these days?

The real question is, how's he playin' in PA?

LOL.

Jim


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In article , Ed Huntress says...

Hey, it pays the bills. How is Pat Robertson playing in the UK these
days?

The real question is, how's he playin' in PA?

LOL.

I had a perverse, but entreprenurial, thought about that a week or so ago.
Go over to Lancaster and have the Amish make some rag dolls with a few Pat
Robertson features. Then sell them in Dover as genuine Pat Robertson voodoo
dolls. You can get the pins somewhere else -- maybe at an S&M emporium in
Soho, or maybe Haiti.

Anyway, it's a small market, but you could get a good markup.

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In article , Ed Huntress says...

I had a perverse, but entreprenurial, thought about that a week or so ago.
Go over to Lancaster and have the Amish make some rag dolls with a few Pat
Robertson features. Then sell them in Dover as genuine Pat Robertson voodoo
dolls. You can get the pins somewhere else -- maybe at an S&M emporium in
Soho, or maybe Haiti.

Anyway, it's a small market, but you could get a good markup.

Small market, yah. But at the rate the fundies are self
destructing over this issue, it could be really big in
a little while.

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In your (wet) dreams, Jim.

"jim rozen" wrote in message
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In article , Ed Huntress says...

I had a perverse, but entreprenurial, thought about that a week or so ago.
Go over to Lancaster and have the Amish make some rag dolls with a few Pat
Robertson features. Then sell them in Dover as genuine Pat Robertson
voodoo
dolls. You can get the pins somewhere else -- maybe at an S&M emporium in
Soho, or maybe Haiti.

Anyway, it's a small market, but you could get a good markup.

Small market, yah. But at the rate the fundies are self
destructing over this issue, it could be really big in
a little while.

Jim


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In article , Ed Huntress says...

I had a perverse, but entreprenurial, thought about that a week or so
ago.
Go over to Lancaster and have the Amish make some rag dolls with a few
Pat
Robertson features. Then sell them in Dover as genuine Pat Robertson
voodoo
dolls. You can get the pins somewhere else -- maybe at an S&M emporium in
Soho, or maybe Haiti.

Anyway, it's a small market, but you could get a good markup.

Small market, yah. But at the rate the fundies are self
destructing over this issue, it could be really big in
a little while.

Jim

Eh, don't count on the fundies self-destructing. They have bullet-proof
Jesus Loves Me bumper stickers, Holy Harmonicas, and enough plush junk and
rubberized dashboard doohickies to turn their rustbucket cars into
padded-cell assault vehicles. Some of them could take a Hummer head-on,
howling on their harmonicas like a Scottish brigade, bug-eyed and smiling as
they plow their cars into biology classrooms across the nation.

They have a lot of fight left in them. Don't count them out.

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"Ed Huntress" wrote

Eh, don't count on the fundies self-destructing. They have bullet-proof
Jesus Loves Me bumper stickers ...


Yeah, but _my_ favorite recent bumper sticker was:

"Jesus Helps Me Fool People"

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"tonyp" wrote in message
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"Ed Huntress" wrote

Eh, don't count on the fundies self-destructing. They have bullet-proof
Jesus Loves Me bumper stickers ...


Yeah, but _my_ favorite recent bumper sticker was:

"Jesus Helps Me Fool People"

That's a good one. I'll add it to my collection.

Two of my favorites, which were obviously home-made, we "Jesus Loves Me,
But He's Not Sure About You," and "God Is Driving This Car...because I'm
taking a nap."

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In article , Ed Huntress says...

Eh, don't count on the fundies self-destructing. They have bullet-proof
Jesus Loves Me bumper stickers, Holy Harmonicas, and enough plush junk and
rubberized dashboard doohickies to turn their rustbucket cars into
padded-cell assault vehicles. Some of them could take a Hummer head-on,
howling on their harmonicas like a Scottish brigade, bug-eyed and smiling as
they plow their cars into biology classrooms across the nation.

They have a lot of fight left in them. Don't count them out.

"I don't care if it rains or freezes, long as I've got my
plastic jesus, sitting on the dashboard of my car...

Goin' 90, it ain't scary, cause I've got that virgin
mary, sittin on the dashboard of my car."

Kansas is now the laughingstock of the world. In PA, aside
from the 'you're all going to hell' condemnation from pat
robertson, the earth is once again going around the sun.

The flat-earth folks will always lose, Ed. If they try
to live according to flat-earth theory, their wheels come
off soon enough.

I am reminded of what one (name withheld at his request) amish
father said asked what he was going to do since polio was
endemic in that part of PA where his community was - he replied
"don't quote me. But we're gonna have all the kids and all
the adults immunized. Also for DPT, and MMR."

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Kansas is now the laughingstock of the world. In PA, aside
from the 'you're all going to hell' condemnation from pat
robertson, the earth is once again going around the sun.

Everybody needs a place to take a holiday from reality. Some smart
entrepreneur ought to be able to come up with a theme park idea for Kansas
that would exploit their educational system. "The State That Time Forgot,"
or something like that.


The flat-earth folks will always lose, Ed. If they try
to live according to flat-earth theory, their wheels come
off soon enough.

OK, in the long run. In the short run, maybe they'll enjoy their notoriety.

I'm not getting too wrought up about it. I don't think it's a trend. It's a
curiosity. As you say, the wheels will come off of it eventually. Trying to
explain the Grand Canyon with 5,000 years of supernatural hydraulics is
going to keep them busy enough. As for Intelligent Design, let them try to
explain the lamprey eel or neocons.

The Designer works in strange ways. For example, malaria...

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"Ed Huntress" wrote

... As for Intelligent Design, let them try to
explain the lamprey eel or neocons.


"Intelligent design" is, at best, a metaphor -- like Adam Smith's "invisible
hand". The difference is that Adam Smith was not such an idiot as to
confuse metaphor with explanation. Otherwise, "Wealth of Nations" would
have been a much shorter book :-)

-- TP

"tonyp" wrote in message
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"Ed Huntress" wrote

... As for Intelligent Design, let them try to
explain the lamprey eel or neocons.


"Intelligent design" is, at best, a metaphor -- like Adam Smith's
"invisible
hand". The difference is that Adam Smith was not such an idiot as to
confuse metaphor with explanation. Otherwise, "Wealth of Nations" would
have been a much shorter book :-)

Well, I think the ID folks really mean it--literally, rather than
metaphorically.

As for Smith, I think he meant it, too, except, of course, that the hand
itself was a metaphor.

Smith didn't anticipate oligopoly or the cocaine trade. Besides, in his
other life, he worked as a mercantilist advisor to the Crown. He had his
bases covered, obviously taking Pascal's Wager to heart. g

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In article , Ed Huntress says...

I'm not getting too wrought up about it. I don't think it's a trend. It's a
curiosity. As you say, the wheels will come off of it eventually. Trying to
explain the Grand Canyon with 5,000 years of supernatural hydraulics is
going to keep them busy enough. As for Intelligent Design, let them try to
explain the lamprey eel or neocons.

Or for example, that it takes longer than that for a photon to
do a random walk through the sun, and escape to the surface. Yep,
it took longer for the light you see out your own window to get to
you, than they say the universe has been in existence.

Jim


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"jim rozen" wrote in message
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In article , Ed Huntress says...

I'm not getting too wrought up about it. I don't think it's a trend. It's
a
curiosity. As you say, the wheels will come off of it eventually. Trying
to
explain the Grand Canyon with 5,000 years of supernatural hydraulics is
going to keep them busy enough. As for Intelligent Design, let them try
to
explain the lamprey eel or neocons.

Or for example, that it takes longer than that for a photon to
do a random walk through the sun, and escape to the surface. Yep,
it took longer for the light you see out your own window to get to
you, than they say the universe has been in existence.

Jim

Aw, c'mon. Like, you've been there and actually *measured* it or something?
I mean, you can actually *see* a photon and clock it with a stopwatch?

That's too hard to believe. 'Must be intelligent design...

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In article , Ed Huntress says...

I mean, you can actually *see* a photon ...

Um, yep.

:^)

Jim


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In article , Ed Huntress says...

I mean, you can actually *see* a photon ...

Um, yep.

:^)

Jim

OK, Mr. Smartypants secular-scientist: how do you *get* to the Sun, to time
that photon? Huh? Huh? Answer that one, you God-forsaken satanist pinko...

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"Ed Huntress" wrote

OK, Mr. Smartypants secular-scientist: how do you *get* to the Sun, to
time
that photon? Huh? Huh? Answer that one, you God-forsaken satanist pinko...



You go at night, when it's cooler.

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In article , tonyp says...

... how do you *get* to the Sun, to time
that photon? Huh? Huh?

You go at night, when it's cooler.

G

Jim


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"Ed Huntress" wrote

... As for Intelligent Design, let them try to
explain the lamprey eel or neocons.


"Intelligent design" is, at best, a metaphor -- like Adam Smith's
"invisible
hand". The difference is that Adam Smith was not such an idiot as to
confuse metaphor with explanation. Otherwise, "Wealth of Nations" would
have been a much shorter book :-)

-- TP

Whenever I hear anyone using the term "intelligent design" the first thing
that pops into my head is whose intelligent design. Well, obviously God's,
right? So what these people are saying is that even though we don't have any
proof, it just seem right that since the world seems so complicated it must
have been God who made it. Who else is powerful enough to have done it? They
can't think of any other explanation so it must have been God that did it.
It's sure is nice to have a catch all term like God to explain every
question there is no answer for. It must be very comforting to the simple
folk to have a neat explanation to life's mysteries. How sad for the rest of
us that have to rely on facts and reason to get by with.

Hawke

"tonyp" wrote in message
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"Ed Huntress" wrote

OK, Mr. Smartypants secular-scientist: how do you *get* to the Sun, to
time
that photon? Huh? Huh? Answer that one, you God-forsaken satanist
pinko...



You go at night, when it's cooler.

-- TP



Damn, 'never thought of that...

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"Hawke" wrote in message
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"tonyp" wrote in message
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"Ed Huntress" wrote

... As for Intelligent Design, let them try to
explain the lamprey eel or neocons.


"Intelligent design" is, at best, a metaphor -- like Adam Smith's
"invisible
hand". The difference is that Adam Smith was not such an idiot as to
confuse metaphor with explanation. Otherwise, "Wealth of Nations" would
have been a much shorter book :-)

-- TP

Whenever I hear anyone using the term "intelligent design" the first thing
that pops into my head is whose intelligent design. Well, obviously God's,
right? So what these people are saying is that even though we don't have
any
proof, it just seem right that since the world seems so complicated it
must
have been God who made it. Who else is powerful enough to have done it?
They
can't think of any other explanation so it must have been God that did it.
It's sure is nice to have a catch all term like God to explain every
question there is no answer for. It must be very comforting to the simple
folk to have a neat explanation to life's mysteries. How sad for the rest
of
us that have to rely on facts and reason to get by with.

Hawke



They'll pray for your enlightenment.

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In article , Hawke says...

Whenever I hear anyone using the term "intelligent design" the first thing
that pops into my head is whose intelligent design. Well, obviously God's,
right? So what these people are saying is that even though we don't have any
proof, it just seem right that since the world seems so complicated it must
have been God who made it. Who else is powerful enough to have done it? They
can't think of any other explanation so it must have been God that did it.

I LIKE that approach. OK, I'll bite.

If we're on track with the idea that there have to be root
causes for everything (like the universe) then:

Who made god? There must be a cause behind him. An uber-god?

Jim


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"jim rozen" wrote in message
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In article , Hawke says...

Whenever I hear anyone using the term "intelligent design" the first
thing
that pops into my head is whose intelligent design. Well, obviously
God's,
right? So what these people are saying is that even though we don't have
any
proof, it just seem right that since the world seems so complicated it
must
have been God who made it. Who else is powerful enough to have done it?
They
can't think of any other explanation so it must have been God that did
it.

I LIKE that approach. OK, I'll bite.

If we're on track with the idea that there have to be root
causes for everything (like the universe) then:

Who made god? There must be a cause behind him. An uber-god?

I suppose you're aware that Bertrand Russell's father asked that question in
school, or maybe of his pastor, when he was a little boy and was being led
down the "first-cause" line of argument -- making himself very unpopular.

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"jim rozen" wrote in message
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In article , Hawke says...

Whenever I hear anyone using the term "intelligent design" the first
thing
that pops into my head is whose intelligent design. Well, obviously
God's,
right? So what these people are saying is that even though we don't have
any
proof, it just seem right that since the world seems so complicated it
must
have been God who made it. Who else is powerful enough to have done it?
They
can't think of any other explanation so it must have been God that did
it.

I LIKE that approach. OK, I'll bite.

If we're on track with the idea that there have to be root
causes for everything (like the universe) then:

Who made god? There must be a cause behind him. An uber-god?

Jim

No, just God's Daddy.

Hawke

In article , Ed Huntress says...

Who made god? There must be a cause behind him. An uber-god?

I suppose you're aware that Bertrand Russell's father asked that question in
school, or maybe of his pastor, when he was a little boy and was being led
down the "first-cause" line of argument -- making himself very unpopular.

Bertrand russell was also the eminent philosopher who first asked
the question:

"If god is omnipotent, can he make a rock so big he can't lift it?"

Jim


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