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On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 18:06:41 GMT, Ignoramus19652
wrote: I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog tags? Second question, what chain to use for them that's most comfortable, unconspicuous and yet strong. Two adults, one 4 year old and one infant soon to appear. Something cheap that can be bought off ebay would be better. Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. i What about a tatoo? Or an RFID chip under the skin? They make 'em for animals, oughta work for people. ERS |
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Ignoramus19652 wrote:
I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog tags? Second question, what chain to use for them that's most comfortable, unconspicuous and yet strong. Two adults, one 4 year old and one infant soon to appear. Something cheap that can be bought off ebay would be better. Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. i Lots of surplus places that will stamp out dogtags on their machines. other than that there is always the cheap alternative of cutting them out from sheet aluminum yourself. The military standard issue is ball chain. My set has been threaded though a sleeve made from the outer layer of parachute cord. A little heat from a lighter and some fast finder work and the ends will seal and grip the chain. Quieter, and not as cold. The baby. Try a velcro or elastic closure on an ankle bracelet under his or her sock or booty. In a dire emergency I would consider a Sharpie marker and mark the child's name and your SSN or some other traceable info onto the childs leg, arm or chest. Cheers Trevor Jones |
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 11:34:09 -0700, Eric R Snow wrote:
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 18:06:41 GMT, Ignoramus19652 wrote: I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog tags? What about a tatoo? Or an RFID chip under the skin? They make 'em for animals, oughta work for people. Iggy, I see guys with dogtag-making machines all the time at gunshows in Wisconsin. Next time I see one I'll get you a card & give you the info. Or, in the Wisconsin Dells, the "Dells Army Ducks" place has a dogtag maker and may do phone orders. As far as attaching it to your infant; didn't you just get a new welder? Dave "Father of 2, including a 10-month-old" Hinz |
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Ignoramus19652 wrote:
I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog tags? Second question, what chain to use for them that's most comfortable, unconspicuous and yet strong. Two adults, one 4 year old and one infant soon to appear. Something cheap that can be bought off ebay would be better. Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. i I still have the dog tag I had to wear as a child in San Francisco public schools during WWII. It has just my name, address and phone number on it. IIRC it was a mandatory thing. There was some concern about air raids on the pacific coast during the early years of that war. Though to the best of my knowledge, the only two that were actually carried out by airplanes were the Japanese carrier launched ones which ineffectively dropped firebombs in Oregon: http://everything2.com/?node_id=1146757 Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented." |
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Trevor Jones wrote:
Ignoramus19652 wrote: I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog tags? Second question, what chain to use for them that's most comfortable, unconspicuous and yet strong. Two adults, one 4 year old and one infant soon to appear. Something cheap that can be bought off ebay would be better. Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. i Lots of surplus places that will stamp out dogtags on their machines. other than that there is always the cheap alternative of cutting them out from sheet aluminum yourself. The military standard issue is ball chain. My set has been threaded though a sleeve made from the outer layer of parachute cord. A little heat from a lighter and some fast finder work and the ends will seal and grip the chain. Quieter, and not as cold. The baby. Try a velcro or elastic closure on an ankle bracelet under his or her sock or booty. In a dire emergency I would consider a Sharpie marker and mark the child's name and your SSN or some other traceable info onto the childs leg, arm or chest. Cheers Trevor Jones Use your states drivers license number prefixed with (state 2 letter abbreviation)DL. It's usually easier getting the information associated with a drivers license number than a SSAN now days. Joe |
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Jeff Wisnia wrote: Ignoramus19652 wrote: I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog tags? You could also have their SSANs tatooed on the inside of their cheeks. Second question, what chain to use for them that's most comfortable, unconspicuous and yet strong. Two adults, one 4 year old and one infant soon to appear. Something cheap that can be bought off ebay would be better. I daresay that for safety's sake you do not want it to be very strong else it becomes a strangulation hazard should it get caught on something like a fence post or tree branch. I have read that WWII aviators wore their dogtags on a string, instead of a chain as if they caught fire the chain might cause more severe burns to the neck whereas the string would simply burn through, dropping the hot tags down into the pilot's shorts instead ... Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. Clip it to his diaper perhaps? i I still have the dog tag I had to wear as a child in San Francisco public schools during WWII. It has just my name, address and phone number on it. IIRC it was a mandatory thing. There was some concern about air raids on the pacific coast during the early years of that war. Though to the best of my knowledge, the only two that were actually carried out by airplanes were the Japanese carrier launched ones which ineffectively dropped firebombs in Oregon: http://everything2.com/?node_id=1146757 In 1942 there was also a carrier-based attack on a California Refinery, the incindiery bombs failed to explode on impact. There was a massive AAA response to the attack, the official explanation was that some US planes were mistaken for bogies. Some observers may have mistaken the smoke cloud formed by the exploding munitions for a large Zepplin-like craft as you sometimes see that incident reported as a UFO sighting. And there was an incident in which a Japanese submarine surfaced and shelled a fuel depot on an island off the California coast. -- FF |
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:39:32 -0600, Trevor Jones wrote:
Ignoramus19652 wrote: I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog tags? Second question, what chain to use for them that's most comfortable, unconspicuous and yet strong. Two adults, one 4 year old and one infant soon to appear. Something cheap that can be bought off ebay would be better. Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. i Lots of surplus places that will stamp out dogtags on their machines. other than that there is always the cheap alternative of cutting them out from sheet aluminum yourself. My dogtags are stainless steel as are my dad's from WWII. The military standard issue is ball chain. My set has been threaded though a sleeve made from the outer layer of parachute cord. A little heat from a lighter and some fast finder work and the ends will seal and grip the chain. Quieter, and not as cold. The baby. Try a velcro or elastic closure on an ankle bracelet under his or her sock or booty. In a dire emergency I would consider a Sharpie marker and mark the child's name and your SSN or some other traceable info onto the childs leg, arm or chest. Cheers Trevor Jones -- -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://curlysurmudgeon.com/blog/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 19:21:20 GMT, Ignoramus19652 wrote:
On 23 Sep 2005 18:47:58 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: I see guys with dogtag-making machines all the time at gunshows in Wisconsin. Next time I see one I'll get you a card & give you the info. Or, in the Wisconsin Dells, the "Dells Army Ducks" place has a dogtag maker and may do phone orders. Come to think about it, we were in WD just 2 months ago. Ah...(uncomfortable pause)...listen, if I flipped you off (license plates being what they are), I should probably apologize at this point. Hypothetically, that is. As far as attaching it to your infant; didn't you just get a new welder? rotflmao... Yeah. As if you could get a little one to stand still long enough to get a good ground... |
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We've got a place here in town that does them for $4.95, including the chains. I got a couple of sets for my son just before he turned three. Anytime we go off the property, he puts his tag on and tucks it in his shirt. When we fly or drive somewhere out of town, a second tag goes into the laces of one of his shoes. Most of the kids in his school think it's the coolest item to have. Even the little girls have been heard begging to have a set made for them. Mac's set has his full legal name, address and city, my mobile phone number and my parents home number. The two different phone numbers are because soneone is at either number almost 24 hours a day. Craig C. |
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Ignoramus19652 wrote:
Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. Tattoo. |
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 18:06:41 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus19652 quickly quoth: I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog tags? Second question, what chain to use for them that's most comfortable, unconspicuous and yet strong. Two adults, one 4 year old and one infant soon to appear. Something cheap that can be bought off ebay would be better. I think they're $8 a pop delivered off Ebay. Maybe less in qty. Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. Yeah, there sure is. Via tattoo, Iggy! ---------------------------------------------------------------- * Blessed are those who can * Humorous T-shirts Online * laugh at themselves, for they * Comprehensive Website Dev. * shall never cease to be amused * http://www.diversify.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- |
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As a general rule (assuming I remember it correctly) neck chains should
break at no more than 10 lbs force to prevent injury. It doesn't have to be the whole chain. It can be the clasp serving as a weak link. Karl "Ignoramus19652" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:39:32 -0600, Trevor Jones wrote: Ignoramus19652 wrote: I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog tags? Second question, what chain to use for them that's most comfortable, unconspicuous and yet strong. Two adults, one 4 year old and one infant soon to appear. Something cheap that can be bought off ebay would be better. Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. i Lots of surplus places that will stamp out dogtags on their machines. other than that there is always the cheap alternative of cutting them out from sheet aluminum yourself. Thanks. The tags are 40 cents each on ebay, it's chump change. I already have an engraver, which my wife can use very beautifully (she has excellent handwriting and engraving skills and makes beautiful engravings). I guess my main question is about chains. The military standard issue is ball chain. My set has been threaded though a sleeve made from the outer layer of parachute cord. A little heat from a lighter and some fast finder work and the ends will seal and grip the chain. Quieter, and not as cold. That's a nice idea. The baby. Try a velcro or elastic closure on an ankle bracelet under his or her sock or booty. In a dire emergency I would consider a Sharpie marker and mark the child's name and your SSN or some other traceable info onto the childs leg, arm or chest. That's another good idea. These markings, though, do not last long, based on experience (he marks himself with these markers a lot). i |
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In article ,
Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. Yeah, there sure is. Via tattoo, Iggy! Magic marker works, will eventually wear off. -- Free men own guns, slaves don't www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5357/ |
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Dave Hinz wrote: As far as attaching it to your infant; didn't you just get a new welder? rotflmao... Yeah. As if you could get a little one to stand still long enough to get a good ground... Much easier to just staple it on, probably only needs one...  -- Free men own guns, slaves don't www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5357/ |
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According to Nick Hull :
In article , Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. Yeah, there sure is. Via tattoo, Iggy! Magic marker works, will eventually wear off. So will using a rubber stamp moistened with Silver Nitrate (AGNO3) solution. After about an hour or two, it will start fading in darker and darker, and will remain until several layers of skin wear off. There is *no* way to wash it off -- at least with chemicals which you are willing to have touch your (or his/her) skin. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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Dog tags are so "Yesterday". Us a metal tag attached to the ear with a
grommet. "Karl Vorwerk" wrote in message ... As a general rule (assuming I remember it correctly) neck chains should break at no more than 10 lbs force to prevent injury. It doesn't have to be the whole chain. It can be the clasp serving as a weak link. Karl "Ignoramus19652" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:39:32 -0600, Trevor Jones wrote: Ignoramus19652 wrote: I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog tags? Second question, what chain to use for them that's most comfortable, unconspicuous and yet strong. Two adults, one 4 year old and one infant soon to appear. Something cheap that can be bought off ebay would be better. Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. i Lots of surplus places that will stamp out dogtags on their machines. other than that there is always the cheap alternative of cutting them out from sheet aluminum yourself. Thanks. The tags are 40 cents each on ebay, it's chump change. I already have an engraver, which my wife can use very beautifully (she has excellent handwriting and engraving skills and makes beautiful engravings). I guess my main question is about chains. The military standard issue is ball chain. My set has been threaded though a sleeve made from the outer layer of parachute cord. A little heat from a lighter and some fast finder work and the ends will seal and grip the chain. Quieter, and not as cold. That's a nice idea. The baby. Try a velcro or elastic closure on an ankle bracelet under his or her sock or booty. In a dire emergency I would consider a Sharpie marker and mark the child's name and your SSN or some other traceable info onto the childs leg, arm or chest. That's another good idea. These markings, though, do not last long, based on experience (he marks himself with these markers a lot). i |
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Use a washer, engrave it, slit the ear of the infant, insert the washer,
stitch the part you slit to hold the washer in place, let it heal for a week and a half. You got yourself a decorative ear washer-tag. When the kid grows up to school age he/she will be a cool dude/dudette cheers T.Alan Ignoramus19652 wrote: I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog tags? Second question, what chain to use for them that's most comfortable, unconspicuous and yet strong. Two adults, one 4 year old and one infant soon to appear. Something cheap that can be bought off ebay would be better. Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. i |
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Gnaw man - use the new cool Sony MP3 earlobe player that plugs into the ear when mounted on the ear.
Store vitals there and listen to the tunes. Made for the X ladies so it seems. Projects text on the neck as to song... Simply wild. Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder brassbend wrote: Dog tags are so "Yesterday". Us a metal tag attached to the ear with a grommet. "Karl Vorwerk" wrote in message ... As a general rule (assuming I remember it correctly) neck chains should break at no more than 10 lbs force to prevent injury. It doesn't have to be the whole chain. It can be the clasp serving as a weak link. Karl "Ignoramus19652" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:39:32 -0600, Trevor Jones wrote: Ignoramus19652 wrote: I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog tags? Second question, what chain to use for them that's most comfortable, unconspicuous and yet strong. Two adults, one 4 year old and one infant soon to appear. Something cheap that can be bought off ebay would be better. Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. i Lots of surplus places that will stamp out dogtags on their machines. other than that there is always the cheap alternative of cutting them out from sheet aluminum yourself. Thanks. The tags are 40 cents each on ebay, it's chump change. I already have an engraver, which my wife can use very beautifully (she has excellent handwriting and engraving skills and makes beautiful engravings). I guess my main question is about chains. The military standard issue is ball chain. My set has been threaded though a sleeve made from the outer layer of parachute cord. A little heat from a lighter and some fast finder work and the ends will seal and grip the chain. Quieter, and not as cold. That's a nice idea. The baby. Try a velcro or elastic closure on an ankle bracelet under his or her sock or booty. In a dire emergency I would consider a Sharpie marker and mark the child's name and your SSN or some other traceable info onto the childs leg, arm or chest. That's another good idea. These markings, though, do not last long, based on experience (he marks himself with these markers a lot). i ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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I like those plastic ear tags the cows wear. You could even color code them.
Karl "Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message ... Gnaw man - use the new cool Sony MP3 earlobe player that plugs into the ear when mounted on the ear. Store vitals there and listen to the tunes. Made for the X ladies so it seems. Projects text on the neck as to song... Simply wild. Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder brassbend wrote: Dog tags are so "Yesterday". Us a metal tag attached to the ear with a grommet. "Karl Vorwerk" wrote in message ... As a general rule (assuming I remember it correctly) neck chains should break at no more than 10 lbs force to prevent injury. It doesn't have to be the whole chain. It can be the clasp serving as a weak link. Karl "Ignoramus19652" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:39:32 -0600, Trevor Jones wrote: Ignoramus19652 wrote: I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog tags? Second question, what chain to use for them that's most comfortable, unconspicuous and yet strong. Two adults, one 4 year old and one infant soon to appear. Something cheap that can be bought off ebay would be better. Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. i Lots of surplus places that will stamp out dogtags on their machines. other than that there is always the cheap alternative of cutting them out from sheet aluminum yourself. Thanks. The tags are 40 cents each on ebay, it's chump change. I already have an engraver, which my wife can use very beautifully (she has excellent handwriting and engraving skills and makes beautiful engravings). I guess my main question is about chains. The military standard issue is ball chain. My set has been threaded though a sleeve made from the outer layer of parachute cord. A little heat from a lighter and some fast finder work and the ends will seal and grip the chain. Quieter, and not as cold. That's a nice idea. The baby. Try a velcro or elastic closure on an ankle bracelet under his or her sock or booty. In a dire emergency I would consider a Sharpie marker and mark the child's name and your SSN or some other traceable info onto the childs leg, arm or chest. That's another good idea. These markings, though, do not last long, based on experience (he marks himself with these markers a lot). i ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 09:41:25 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "Karl
Vorwerk" quickly quoth: I like those plastic ear tags the cows wear. You could even color code them. Sacre bleu! Laser barcoding of zee temple vood be tres chic, non? -- "Simplicity of life, even the barest, is not misery but the very foundation of refinement." --William Morris ----------------------------------- www.diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development |
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"Ignoramus19652" wrote in message
. .. | I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver | and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog | tags? | | Second question, what chain to use for them that's most comfortable, | unconspicuous and yet strong. Two adults, one 4 year old and one | infant soon to appear. Something cheap that can be bought off ebay | would be better. | | Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in | case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. | | i Military dogtags are stamped (embossed,) not etched. I still have one of mine on my keychain. Will never wear off, and I got 'em almost twenty years ago, which in a dogtag's life, is nothing. They last longer and will still be legible even in the worst conditions. We also had little rubber silences to go around the dogtag to keep them quieter, since folks running found the noise annoying. I would suspect that you can find them made to your liking damn near anywhere they're sold, including ebay The ball chain has been well tested by the services, and are the best way to go. You can get the chain at the hardware store. The sleeve from parachute cord is good, but the chain is bright so it can be seen better in darkness. I think because an infant's skin is so fragile and they're so likely to put things in their mouth, there really isn't a good place on their body to put tags. I think that if you had a safety pin attached to their clothes that might be a much better way to go, and you can keep it on their back, out of sight and reach for the child, but within reach for an adult and easy to confirm its presence. Here's a fellow on ebay who does a bunch of just that: http://stores.ebay.com/AB-retailer-and-card-supplies and look for dog tags. They aren't cheap, but to get the good stuff you can't do it for next to nothing. |
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:03:19 +0000, carl mciver wrote:
"Ignoramus19652" wrote in message . .. | I would like to buy several dog tags for my family. I have an engraver | and an etcher. Which of them would be better for writing on these dog | tags? | | Second question, what chain to use for them that's most comfortable, | unconspicuous and yet strong. Two adults, one 4 year old and one | infant soon to appear. Something cheap that can be bought off ebay | would be better. | | Third, is there some way to safely attach a dog tag to an infant in | case of emergency, so that he does not strangle himself with it. | | i Military dogtags are stamped (embossed,) not etched. I still have one of mine on my keychain. Will never wear off, and I got 'em almost twenty years ago, which in a dogtag's life, is nothing. They last longer and will still be legible even in the worst conditions. We also had little rubber silences to go around the dogtag to keep them quieter, since folks running found the noise annoying. I would suspect that you can find them made to your liking damn near anywhere they're sold, including ebay You're right, Google is your friend, people should learn to use it: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...bossed&spell=1 The ball chain has been well tested by the services, and are the best way to go. You can get the chain at the hardware store. The sleeve from parachute cord is good, but the chain is bright so it can be seen better in darkness. I think because an infant's skin is so fragile and they're so likely to put things in their mouth, there really isn't a good place on their body to put tags. I think that if you had a safety pin attached to their clothes that might be a much better way to go, and you can keep it on their back, out of sight and reach for the child, but within reach for an adult and easy to confirm its presence. Here's a fellow on ebay who does a bunch of just that: http://stores.ebay.com/AB-retailer-and-card-supplies and look for dog tags. They aren't cheap, but to get the good stuff you can't do it for next to nothing. -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://curlysurmudgeon.com/blog/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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