"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
snip
And yes..during several floods in the past couple years, I know of a
number of prepared individuals who lived on their roofs, cooking on
Coleman type stoves,
snip

Mmmm, prepared individuals...cooking on Coleman type stoves...TASTY!!! A
new way of thinking: "Love thy neighbor" A true survivalist would have
plenty of garlic and aeromatics on hand to make one's neighbors a little
more palatable. Keep the rice and beans for a side dish or for keeping
future meals plump and jucy.

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 03:34:33 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
snip
And yes..during several floods in the past couple years, I know of a
number of prepared individuals who lived on their roofs, cooking on
Coleman type stoves,
snip

Mmmm, prepared individuals...cooking on Coleman type stoves...TASTY!!! A
new way of thinking: "Love thy neighbor" A true survivalist would have
plenty of garlic and aeromatics on hand to make one's neighbors a little
more palatable. Keep the rice and beans for a side dish or for keeping
future meals plump and jucy.

Tobasco Sauce, and various spices and seasonings are a requirement for
any serious survivalists kit. It will make even nutria palitable. Or
so they claim. Im not that brave.....


Gunner

doo wrote:
Didn't welfare start in 1960? If so, I was 7 at the time.



1933 - long before you were born.



I thought 1933 was Social Security.


Actually, Aid to Dependent Chidren(welfare)started in 1935.



http://encyclopedias.families.com/ai...afdc-48-49-ecc

http://www.enotes.com/welfare-article/

And some food for thought
http://www.andrewbernstein.net/artic...lfarestate.htm


That last link is a good one, thanks.

John

Crackling bacon and popping eggs. Those are memories from Coleman stoves
up in the high mountains. Near freezing wakeup and hot afternoons.

Martin
Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH, NRA Life
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder



Tom Gardner wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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And yes..during several floods in the past couple years, I know of a
number of prepared individuals who lived on their roofs, cooking on
Coleman type stoves,

snip

Mmmm, prepared individuals...cooking on Coleman type stoves...TASTY!!! A
new way of thinking: "Love thy neighbor" A true survivalist would have
plenty of garlic and aeromatics on hand to make one's neighbors a little
more palatable. Keep the rice and beans for a side dish or for keeping
future meals plump and jucy.



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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 07:13:55 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 03:34:33 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
snip
And yes..during several floods in the past couple years, I know of a
number of prepared individuals who lived on their roofs, cooking on
Coleman type stoves,
snip

Mmmm, prepared individuals...cooking on Coleman type stoves...TASTY!!! A
new way of thinking: "Love thy neighbor" A true survivalist would have
plenty of garlic and aeromatics on hand to make one's neighbors a little
more palatable. Keep the rice and beans for a side dish or for keeping
future meals plump and jucy.

Tobasco Sauce, and various spices and seasonings are a requirement for
any serious survivalists kit. It will make even nutria palitable. Or
so they claim. Im not that brave.....

Nearly any meat will succumb to marination in acid and oil if you
have the time. Wishbone Italian salad dressing works well.
Failing that, any available vinegar and oil providing that the oil
isn't rancid. Better to skip the oil if it is rancid; the vinegar
does most of the work.

Seasoning if you have room in the bugout bag: McCormick's poultry
seasoning rub for the survivalist who'd like tasty grub. Tobasco
hides bad taste, not always a good idea because it can hide taste
clues of bad meat that will make you sick. Further, it can quell the
appestat before you've eaten as much as you might need to when your
next meal might be a while later. If you gather the game or fish
yourself then that isn't an issue. MRE's are a last resort. They're
good for combat troops because they're high-calorie quick, but they
gave my dainty digestive system hell even when I was 22.

Onions work miracles on almost everything if available, wild or at
market, in country or wherever. Onions are about universal
everywhere. Tomatoes supply acid but they're only available in
countries with moderate to warm climates and they're seasonal.

Failing all of the foregoing ......ya don't have to like what you eat
in survival mode. Ya don't hafta like it, you just hafta do it.
Bears are omnivores like we, they get big fat before hibernation.

It's important not to eat anything that will make you sick.
Getting sick can be fatal in a survival sit, no matter how much ammo
is at hand. Tough ****, pick yer pony and take yer ride.

I machined a part out of metal for a bud today that I'm rather proud
of, though that might be off-topic........

So sayeth this oldfart who has been there, done that, now enjoys
every no-risk day before the grim reaper arrives to collect me arse.

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 05:30:14 -0500, the blithe spirit Don Foreman
clearly indicated:

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 07:13:55 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Mmmm, prepared individuals...cooking on Coleman type stoves...TASTY!!! A
new way of thinking: "Love thy neighbor" A true survivalist would have
plenty of garlic and aeromatics on hand to make one's neighbors a little
more palatable. Keep the rice and beans for a side dish or for keeping
future meals plump and jucy.

Tobasco Sauce, and various spices and seasonings are a requirement for
any serious survivalists kit. It will make even nutria palitable. Or
so they claim. Im not that brave.....

(Whassamattayou, Gunner? You don't like 2' long RATS? Wuss.


Nearly any meat will succumb to marination in acid and oil if you
have the time. Wishbone Italian salad dressing works well.
Failing that, any available vinegar and oil providing that the oil
isn't rancid. Better to skip the oil if it is rancid; the vinegar
does most of the work.

Eating your neighbor is OK but rancid fat ain't, Don? Um, OK. bseg


Seasoning if you have room in the bugout bag: McCormick's poultry
seasoning rub for the survivalist who'd like tasty grub. Tobasco
hides bad taste, not always a good idea because it can hide taste
clues of bad meat that will make you sick. Further, it can quell the
appestat before you've eaten as much as you might need to when your
next meal might be a while later. If you gather the game or fish
yourself then that isn't an issue. MRE's are a last resort. They're
good for combat troops because they're high-calorie quick, but they
gave my dainty digestive system hell even when I was 22.

Hopefully they're better nutrition nowadays. That they're complete
with internal heating mechanism is a definite plus! (No fire to give
your position away.)


Failing all of the foregoing ......ya don't have to like what you eat
in survival mode. Ya don't hafta like it, you just hafta do it.
Bears are omnivores like we, they get big fat before hibernation.

And they do it all without SuperSizing; truly a Miracle!


It's important not to eat anything that will make you sick.
Getting sick can be fatal in a survival sit, no matter how much ammo
is at hand. Tough ****, pick yer pony and take yer ride.

Getting sick alone can kill ya quicker than getting sick with someone
around--to keep you hydrated and nurse you back to health--provided
that you survive what ails ya.


I machined a part out of metal for a bud today that I'm rather proud
of, though that might be off-topic........

It is for this thread. Whatcha make?


So sayeth this oldfart who has been there, done that, now enjoys
every no-risk day before the grim reaper arrives to collect me arse.

What good is a no-risk day? A day without some kind of adrenaline rush
is like a day without sunshine, eh? (Given the windy road and deep
ditches on the sides, not to mention city drivers, driving into town
every few days gives me that rush.

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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 06:16:15 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:


I machined a part out of metal for a bud today that I'm rather proud
of, though that might be off-topic........

It is for this thread. Whatcha make?

Fitting for a bud's pressure washer. The aluminum casting was cracked
at a hole threaded 3/8 NPT. Welded the casting but didn't get clear
down to the threads, didn't want to barf them up. Skinned the nose
flat in the mill, made an NPT fitting with a flange that meets the
nose blackout tight just about the time the tapered threads snug up.
The challenge was getting the taper and lathe-cut threads so that
would happen. A little Permatex between flange and casting nose,
and voiley! I made the flange so it could be welded to the casting
and picked up some 4043 TIG rod yesterday, but I think Permatex and
torque will seal it just as well.

I guess the true questions for this post is have we as society become
so soft that we can't fend for ourselves anymore? Have we become too
reliant on people providing for us? Whatever happened to Basic Survival
101?

Funny you should mention this. My wife and I were having a
disagreement about this very thing. When it got to the point where she
ran out of "good" arguments she said "well, it's a good thing you
arent' there. You would have been the first one dead. You don't even
know how to pack for camping."

The basis for that statement, I am sure, is that my version of camping
involves: a fishing line, hook, blade of some sort, a pot and some
matches. Depending on season maybe a sleeping bag and tent. (firearms
are generally prohibited in most camping areas, but that doesn't always
stop me.)

She packs everything under the freaking sun and then whines that her
pack is too heavy.

Survivalist she ain't. I was too floored by her comment to even come
up with a response. Only thing I could thing of was "I'm not dumb
enough to get caught in that predicament in the first place".

JW

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 16:13:27 -0500, the blithe spirit Don Foreman
clearly indicated:

I machined a part out of metal for a bud today that I'm rather proud
of, though that might be off-topic........

It is for this thread. Whatcha make?

Fitting for a bud's pressure washer. The aluminum casting was cracked
at a hole threaded 3/8 NPT. Welded the casting but didn't get clear
down to the threads, didn't want to barf them up. Skinned the nose
flat in the mill, made an NPT fitting with a flange that meets the
nose blackout tight just about the time the tapered threads snug up.
The challenge was getting the taper and lathe-cut threads so that
would happen. A little Permatex between flange and casting nose,
and voiley!

Tres chic. Got pics?


I made the flange so it could be welded to the casting
and picked up some 4043 TIG rod yesterday, but I think Permatex and
torque will seal it just as well.

1/16" 'loonymum wire, eh?


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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:21:29 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:



Tres chic. Got pics?

http://users.goldengate.net/~dforeman/pwash_part/


I made the flange so it could be welded to the casting
and picked up some 4043 TIG rod yesterday, but I think Permatex and
torque will seal it just as well.

1/16" 'loonymum wire, eh?

Yup. A chart I saw somewhere indicated that it's compatble with both
6061 and cast aluminum.


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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:14:17 -0500, the blithe spirit Don Foreman
clearly indicated:

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:21:29 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

Tres chic. Got pics?

http://users.goldengate.net/~dforeman/pwash_part/

Well done!


1/16" 'loonymum wire, eh?

Yup. A chart I saw somewhere indicated that it's compatble with both
6061 and cast aluminum.

Melted wire somehow seems more permanent than Permatex.


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